[paul]

This is the only newsgroup I participate in, where the signature and the
cursor in the reply are placed on top of the post you are replying to. I am
accessing this via the MS website. I find it a bit cumbersome to have to cut
my sig, then paste it below the text I am replying to. Is there another way
to access these newsgroups, or at least, another way to get my sig below the
material I'm posting to?
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501

[JoAnn Paules]

Dump the horrible web interface and use a newsreader or something like
Outlook Express/Windows Mail.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171190

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


"Paul" wrote in message
...
This is the only newsgroup I participate in, where the signature and the
cursor in the reply are placed on top of the post you are replying to. I
am
accessing this via the MS website. I find it a bit cumbersome to have to
cut
my sig, then paste it below the text I am replying to. Is there another
way
to access these newsgroups, or at least, another way to get my sig below
the
material I'm posting to?
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501

[paul]

I use Google Reader. Not sure how to use RSS to get updates for my threads.
I'm really not interested in seeing General Questions forum updated...just a
thread that I start. I did copy/paste the thread URL into Google Reader's
Add a Feed option but it didn't see anything.... said something like no URL
was found....
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

Dump the horrible web interface and use a newsreader or something like
Outlook Express/Windows Mail.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171190

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


"Paul" wrote in message
...
This is the only newsgroup I participate in, where the signature and the
cursor in the reply are placed on top of the post you are replying to. I
am
accessing this via the MS website. I find it a bit cumbersome to have to
cut
my sig, then paste it below the text I am replying to. Is there another
way
to access these newsgroups, or at least, another way to get my sig below
the
material I'm posting to?
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501

[JoAnn Paules]

Can't help you. I use OE and WM.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


"Paul" wrote in message
...
I use Google Reader. Not sure how to use RSS to get updates for my threads.
I'm really not interested in seeing General Questions forum updated...just
a
thread that I start. I did copy/paste the thread URL into Google
Reader's
Add a Feed option but it didn't see anything.... said something like no
URL
was found....
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

Dump the horrible web interface and use a newsreader or something like
Outlook Express/Windows Mail.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171190

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


"Paul" wrote in message
...
This is the only newsgroup I participate in, where the signature and
the
cursor in the reply are placed on top of the post you are replying to.
I
am
accessing this via the MS website. I find it a bit cumbersome to have
to
cut
my sig, then paste it below the text I am replying to. Is there another
way
to access these newsgroups, or at least, another way to get my sig
below
the
material I'm posting to?
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501

[Gordon Bentley-Mix[_2_]]

Paul,

If you use the Microsoft Office Communities interface
(http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...&lang=en&cr=US)
rather that Google Reader, it should resolve the problem with the location
of your signature. And if you use Windows Live Mail (which is the
replacement for Outlook Express), then you can flag threads to watch - and
threads that you start are flagged automatically.

Setting up the newsreader functionality isn't difficult Windows Live Mail. I
think the help might give the necessary details, but it's probably not
necessary. I don't know if WLM will insert your signature automatically
though. It probably will, but I can't be bothered trying to find out how; I
just have a little text file that I copy and paste from instead. The only
downside for me is that WLM doesn't insert the little MVP logo next to my
posts the way the web interface does. Heartbreaking, aye? ;-P
--
Cheers!

Gordon Bentley-Mix
Word MVP

Uninvited email contact will be marked as SPAM and ignored. Please post all
follow-ups to the newsgroup.


"Paul" wrote in message
...
I use Google Reader. Not sure how to use RSS to get updates for my
threads.
I'm really not interested in seeing General Questions forum updated...just
a
thread that I start. I did copy/paste the thread URL into Google
Reader's
Add a Feed option but it didn't see anything.... said something like no
URL
was found....
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

Dump the horrible web interface and use a newsreader or something like
Outlook Express/Windows Mail.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171190

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


"Paul" wrote in message
...
This is the only newsgroup I participate in, where the signature and
the
cursor in the reply are placed on top of the post you are replying to.
I
am
accessing this via the MS website. I find it a bit cumbersome to have
to
cut
my sig, then paste it below the text I am replying to. Is there another
way
to access these newsgroups, or at least, another way to get my sig
below
the
material I'm posting to?
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501

[Graham Mayor]

We have all managed quite happily with top posting in the Word forums since
long before others started to take feeds from the NNTP server.
Some pedants still prefer to bottom post, but then that simply means that
those of us who answer the questions (and who don't on the whole use the web
portals) have to wade through reams of old stuff to get at the latest
contribution. When it is at the top (which is where you are being invited to
write) it is the first thing that we see. So bottom post if you must, but
don't be too surprised if your contributions are sometimes overlooked.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Paul wrote:
This is the only newsgroup I participate in, where the signature and
the cursor in the reply are placed on top of the post you are
replying to. I am accessing this via the MS website. I find it a
bit cumbersome to have to cut my sig, then paste it below the text I
am replying to. Is there another way to access these newsgroups, or
at least, another way to get my sig below the material I'm posting to?

[paul]

Graham if this is the norm here that's fine. I prefer to compose (and read)
my emails with top posting, that's for sure. I have seen a few others here do
bottom-posting, and I was under the impression that this was part of
"netiquette." But as long as I"ve got at least one MVP who is a militant
bottom-poster I think I'll survive around here.

--
Paul

Bottom-posting and proud of it
MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"Graham Mayor" wrote:

We have all managed quite happily with top posting in the Word forums since
long before others started to take feeds from the NNTP server.
Some pedants still prefer to bottom post, but then that simply means that
those of us who answer the questions (and who don't on the whole use the web
portals) have to wade through reams of old stuff to get at the latest
contribution. When it is at the top (which is where you are being invited to
write) it is the first thing that we see. So bottom post if you must, but
don't be too surprised if your contributions are sometimes overlooked.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org

[paul]

I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.
--
Paul
Top-posting but still confused
MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"

[Graham Mayor]

I don't think anyone here is that bothered - life is too short to worry
about such things

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Paul wrote:
Graham if this is the norm here that's fine. I prefer to compose (and
read) my emails with top posting, that's for sure. I have seen a few
others here do bottom-posting, and I was under the impression that
this was part of "netiquette." But as long as I"ve got at least one
MVP who is a militant bottom-poster I think I'll survive around here.


We have all managed quite happily with top posting in the Word
forums since long before others started to take feeds from the NNTP
server.
Some pedants still prefer to bottom post, but then that simply means
that those of us who answer the questions (and who don't on the
whole use the web portals) have to wade through reams of old stuff
to get at the latest contribution. When it is at the top (which is
where you are being invited to write) it is the first thing that we
see. So bottom post if you must, but don't be too surprised if your
contributions are sometimes overlooked.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated discussion, I
started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find any
new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added his
message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message
...
I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.
--
Paul
Top-posting but still confused
MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"

[Stefan Blom]

Personally, I prefer top-posting too.

Occasionally, though, I find it easier to reply "inline" if I'm answering a
long, complex message and I want to comment on several different things in
that message.

~~~
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated discussion,
I started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find
any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added
his message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message
...
I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what
I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.
--
Paul
Top-posting but still confused
MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"

[grammatim[_2_]]

Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is the
only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated discussion, I
started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find any
new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added his
message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is the
only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated discussion,
I
started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find
any
new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added his
message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what
I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just
figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.

[grammatim[_2_]]

That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is the
only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated discussion,
I
started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find
any
new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added his
message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...

I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what
I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just
figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.-

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly; yours
(and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is the
only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion,
I
started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to
the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find
any
new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added
his
message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...

I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of
what
I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just
figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.-

[Beth Melton]

It quotes correctly for me if I reply to grammatim. I'm using Windows Live
Mail but it shouldn't be different from Outlook Express. What do you have
set for your News Sending Options under Tools/Options/Send? I have: Plain
Text and for Plain Text Settings: MIME, Encode using "None", wrap at 76, and
the Indent Original text with "" option selected.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly;
yours (and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

My settings are identical to yours. Note below that there are the same
number of in grammatim's reply to my post and my reply to him.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
It quotes correctly for me if I reply to grammatim. I'm using Windows Live
Mail but it shouldn't be different from Outlook Express. What do you have
set for your News Sending Options under Tools/Options/Send? I have: Plain
Text and for Plain Text Settings: MIME, Encode using "None", wrap at 76,
and the Indent Original text with "" option selected.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly;
yours (and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

[Beth Melton]

Then maybe it's time to make the switch to Windows Live Mail. g,d &r
Seriously though, you can install it on Windows XP and provided you don't
use the WebNews options (mainly due to the issue of posts getting eaten)
it's almost identical to OE.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
My settings are identical to yours. Note below that there are the same
number of in grammatim's reply to my post and my reply to him.


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
It quotes correctly for me if I reply to grammatim. I'm using Windows
Live Mail but it shouldn't be different from Outlook Express. What do you
have set for your News Sending Options under Tools/Options/Send? I have:
Plain Text and for Plain Text Settings: MIME, Encode using "None", wrap
at 76, and the Indent Original text with "" option selected.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly;
yours (and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text
isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

What does it have that OE doesn't have?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
Then maybe it's time to make the switch to Windows Live Mail. g,d &r
Seriously though, you can install it on Windows XP and provided you don't
use the WebNews options (mainly due to the issue of posts getting eaten)
it's almost identical to OE.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
My settings are identical to yours. Note below that there are the same
number of in grammatim's reply to my post and my reply to him.


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
It quotes correctly for me if I reply to grammatim. I'm using Windows
Live Mail but it shouldn't be different from Outlook Express. What do
you have set for your News Sending Options under Tools/Options/Send? I
have: Plain Text and for Plain Text Settings: MIME, Encode using "None",
wrap at 76, and the Indent Original text with "" option selected.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly;
yours (and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text
isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

[Beth Melton]

For starters it has its own proofing tools. That was a big plus in my book.
I was copy/pasting to Word when necessary. I held out on installing
third-party proofing tools until Microsoft provided an alternative for
Windows XP users. Part of it, of course, was sheer stubbornness but it also
kept the issue fresh in my mind so I could mention it every chance I got.
;-)

It also has many of the webnews features, such as the ratings, voting, etc
so you can log on and see them if you want. I was using them until it kept
eating my posts. Very frustrating to discover several days worth of posts
missing!

The Reading Pane can be displayed on the right like Outlook. I scroll a lot
less now, especially for the bottom postings. There's a few other new
features but I don't use any of them for the newsgroups.

And, of course, it appears it quotes replies property.

The one thing I don't like is my munged Reply To email address isn't used on
posts, as it is in OE, but I resolved that by using a munged email address
instead.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
What does it have that OE doesn't have?


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
Then maybe it's time to make the switch to Windows Live Mail. g,d &r
Seriously though, you can install it on Windows XP and provided you don't
use the WebNews options (mainly due to the issue of posts getting eaten)
it's almost identical to OE.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
My settings are identical to yours. Note below that there are the same
number of in grammatim's reply to my post and my reply to him.


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
It quotes correctly for me if I reply to grammatim. I'm using Windows
Live Mail but it shouldn't be different from Outlook Express. What do
you have set for your News Sending Options under Tools/Options/Send? I
have: Plain Text and for Plain Text Settings: MIME, Encode using
"None", wrap at 76, and the Indent Original text with "" option
selected.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly;
yours (and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text
isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

[Graham Mayor]

As you are now posting regularly to the forum, you may find it more
convenient to access the NNTP server directly. The following link explains
how to do that for Outlook Express - http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.htm
Not only is it infinitely faster than the web portals but the posts and your
replies are stored locally. Give it a whirl and see what you think.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



grammatim wrote:
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is the
only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion, I started to post something yesterday and then thought
better of it. But I also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham
mentioned. Yes, it is illogical and does make reading more difficult
for people who come to the thread late, but for those who are
following it actively, it is far more efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to
read "Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't
seem to find any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact
that the poster added his message within the area of quoted material
(blank lines) set off by characters, making it appear to be part
of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse
of what I just posted. I can happily top-post if that's
acceptable...I just figured that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok
over and out.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Thanks for the rundown. I have been aware of the webnews features but also
that they are (mostly) broken, so it just keeps seeming like LM is a
solution to a problem I don't have. I don't use proofing tools in OE, anyway
(though I guess I could, since I still have Office 2003 installed, and
occasionally I realize I should!), and I just resist most change unless I
see an overwhelming reason for it (haven't installed Silverlight, either).

Also, I have a confession: when I went to Tools | Options | Send to change
my mail sending settings temporarily so I could forward an HTML message, I
realized that yesterday when I told you our settings were identical, I was
looking at the mail settings, not news. In fact, for reasons I no longer
recall, I had news set to Uuencode; I've now changed it to MIME, and we'll
see what happens (and if it's something bad, it will be your fault g).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
For starters it has its own proofing tools. That was a big plus in my
book. I was copy/pasting to Word when necessary. I held out on installing
third-party proofing tools until Microsoft provided an alternative for
Windows XP users. Part of it, of course, was sheer stubbornness but it
also kept the issue fresh in my mind so I could mention it every chance I
got. ;-)

It also has many of the webnews features, such as the ratings, voting, etc
so you can log on and see them if you want. I was using them until it kept
eating my posts. Very frustrating to discover several days worth of posts
missing!

The Reading Pane can be displayed on the right like Outlook. I scroll a
lot less now, especially for the bottom postings. There's a few other new
features but I don't use any of them for the newsgroups.

And, of course, it appears it quotes replies property.

The one thing I don't like is my munged Reply To email address isn't used
on posts, as it is in OE, but I resolved that by using a munged email
address instead.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
What does it have that OE doesn't have?


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
Then maybe it's time to make the switch to Windows Live Mail. g,d &r
Seriously though, you can install it on Windows XP and provided you
don't use the WebNews options (mainly due to the issue of posts getting
eaten) it's almost identical to OE.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
My settings are identical to yours. Note below that there are the same
number of in grammatim's reply to my post and my reply to him.


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
It quotes correctly for me if I reply to grammatim. I'm using Windows
Live Mail but it shouldn't be different from Outlook Express. What do
you have set for your News Sending Options under Tools/Options/Send? I
have: Plain Text and for Plain Text Settings: MIME, Encode using
"None", wrap at 76, and the Indent Original text with "" option
selected.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted
correctly; yours (and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the
exception.

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text
isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

[Beth Melton]

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the rundown. I have been aware of the webnews features but also
that they are (mostly) broken, so it just keeps seeming like LM is a
solution to a problem I don't have. I don't use proofing tools in OE,
anyway (though I guess I could, since I still have Office 2003 installed,
and occasionally I realize I should!), and I just resist most change
unless I see an overwhelming reason for it (haven't installed Silverlight,
either).

I've noted your resistance. That's why I was teasing you about making the
switch. ;-)

Also, I have a confession: when I went to Tools | Options | Send to change
my mail sending settings temporarily so I could forward an HTML message, I
realized that yesterday when I told you our settings were identical, I was
looking at the mail settings, not news. In fact, for reasons I no longer
recall, I had news set to Uuencode; I've now changed it to MIME, and we'll
see what happens (and if it's something bad, it will be your fault g).

LOL if something happens I'll shoulder the blame and help you out with it.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Oh, you just had to go opening that can of worms again!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
As you are now posting regularly to the forum, you may find it more
convenient to access the NNTP server directly. The following link explains
how to do that for Outlook Express - http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.htm
Not only is it infinitely faster than the web portals but the posts and
your replies are stored locally. Give it a whirl and see what you think.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



grammatim wrote:
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is the
only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion, I started to post something yesterday and then thought
better of it. But I also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham
mentioned. Yes, it is illogical and does make reading more difficult
for people who come to the thread late, but for those who are
following it actively, it is far more efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to
read "Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't
seem to find any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact
that the poster added his message within the area of quoted material
(blank lines) set off by characters, making it appear to be part
of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse
of what I just posted. I can happily top-post if that's
acceptable...I just figured that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok
over and out.

[grammatim[_2_]]

Ok, here's something to try Replying to.

(As for the can of worms, I don't use Outlook (Express).)

On Feb 19, 9:07*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Thanks for the rundown. I have been aware of the webnews features but also
that they are (mostly) broken, so it just keeps seeming like LM is a
solution to a problem I don't have. I don't use proofing tools in OE, anyway
(though I guess I could, since I still have Office 2003 installed, and
occasionally I realize I should!), and I just resist most change unless I
see an overwhelming reason for it (haven't installed Silverlight, either)..

Also, I have a confession: when I went to Tools | Options | Send to change
my mail sending settings temporarily so I could forward an HTML message, I
realized that yesterday when I told you our settings were identical, I was
looking at the mail settings, not news. In fact, for reasons I no longer
recall, I had news set to Uuencode; I've now changed it to MIME, and we'll
see what happens (and if it's something bad, it will be your fault g).

[Beth Melton]

"grammatim" wrote in message
...

(As for the can of worms, I don't use Outlook (Express).)

If you are referring to using it for email, I don't either. :-) I use
Outlook. You can add the ability to post to the newsgroups within Outlook
without the need to actually set it up for sending/receiving email. All you
need to do is add the News button, found in the Go category of the Customize
dialog box. Of course if you don't use Outlook then this isn't applicable.

I don't think I could use Google Groups for the newsgroups. There's no need
to view "pages" of posts in OE or Windows Live Mail, you can easily set your
view to "Show replies to my messages", mark threads for watching, and most
important to me, it keeps track of what you've read and not read. But I
guess which one works the best is more a matter of what you get used to. :-)
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

But grammatim has previously stated his preference for Google Groups as a
means of reading widely across Usenet; although he could connect directly to
msnews, I believe his ISP doesn't offer a news server on which he could read
the other groups, so he prefers to read them all in the same interface.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
"grammatim" wrote in message
...

(As for the can of worms, I don't use Outlook (Express).)

If you are referring to using it for email, I don't either. :-) I use
Outlook. You can add the ability to post to the newsgroups within Outlook
without the need to actually set it up for sending/receiving email. All
you need to do is add the News button, found in the Go category of the
Customize dialog box. Of course if you don't use Outlook then this isn't
applicable.

I don't think I could use Google Groups for the newsgroups. There's no
need to view "pages" of posts in OE or Windows Live Mail, you can easily
set your view to "Show replies to my messages", mark threads for watching,
and most important to me, it keeps track of what you've read and not read.
But I guess which one works the best is more a matter of what you get used
to. :-)
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Nope, still not quoting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
Ok, here's something to try Replying to.

(As for the can of worms, I don't use Outlook (Express).)

On Feb 19, 9:07 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Thanks for the rundown. I have been aware of the webnews features but also
that they are (mostly) broken, so it just keeps seeming like LM is a
solution to a problem I don't have. I don't use proofing tools in OE,
anyway
(though I guess I could, since I still have Office 2003 installed, and
occasionally I realize I should!), and I just resist most change unless I
see an overwhelming reason for it (haven't installed Silverlight, either).

Also, I have a confession: when I went to Tools | Options | Send to change
my mail sending settings temporarily so I could forward an HTML message, I
realized that yesterday when I told you our settings were identical, I was
looking at the mail settings, not news. In fact, for reasons I no longer
recall, I had news set to Uuencode; I've now changed it to MIME, and we'll
see what happens (and if it's something bad, it will be your fault g).

[Graham Mayor]

Like all advice he is free to accept or reject it.
You can lead a horse to water .....
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Oh, you just had to go opening that can of worms again!


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
As you are now posting regularly to the forum, you may find it more
convenient to access the NNTP server directly. The following link
explains how to do that for Outlook Express -
http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.htm Not only is it infinitely faster than
the web portals but the posts
and your replies are stored locally. Give it a whirl and see what
you think. --

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



grammatim wrote:
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is
the only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion, I started to post something yesterday and then thought
better of it. But I also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham
mentioned. Yes, it is illogical and does make reading more
difficult for people who come to the thread late, but for those
who are following it actively, it is far more efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to
read "Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't
seem to find any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact
that the poster added his message within the area of quoted
material (blank lines) set off by characters, making it appear
to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse
of what I just posted. I can happily top-post if that's
acceptable...I just figured that bottom-posting was
netiquette...ok over and out.

[Paul]

OK lets see if this makes it. I had to click on Reply to Group, not reply to
sender....

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Like all advice he is free to accept or reject it.
You can lead a horse to water .....
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Oh, you just had to go opening that can of worms again!


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
As you are now posting regularly to the forum, you may find it more
convenient to access the NNTP server directly. The following link
explains how to do that for Outlook Express -
http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.htm Not only is it infinitely faster than
the web portals but the posts
and your replies are stored locally. Give it a whirl and see what
you think. --

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



grammatim wrote:
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is
the only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion, I started to post something yesterday and then thought
better of it. But I also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham
mentioned. Yes, it is illogical and does make reading more
difficult for people who come to the thread late, but for those
who are following it actively, it is far more efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to
read "Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't
seem to find any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact
that the poster added his message within the area of quoted
material (blank lines) set off by characters, making it appear
to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse
of what I just posted. I can happily top-post if that's
acceptable...I just figured that bottom-posting was
netiquette...ok over and out.

[paul]

OK Graham I have OE set up (I think). It is subscribed to whatever it is
calling General Questions here... but when I tried replying to your message I
had no clue what to type in as the "send to" email address. Nor do I know
how to subscribe only to my threads. Or is the idea that I will be d/l all
messages in all threads? I'd rather just subscribe to my own. With all the
MVPs here there is precious little that I can contribute to other threads,
and I can easily do a search when I do want to post about a particular
problem.
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Like all advice he is free to accept or reject it.
You can lead a horse to water .....
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Oh, you just had to go opening that can of worms again!


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
As you are now posting regularly to the forum, you may find it more
convenient to access the NNTP server directly. The following link
explains how to do that for Outlook Express -
http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.htm Not only is it infinitely faster than
the web portals but the posts
and your replies are stored locally. Give it a whirl and see what
you think. --

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



grammatim wrote:
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is
the only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion, I started to post something yesterday and then thought
better of it. But I also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham
mentioned. Yes, it is illogical and does make reading more
difficult for people who come to the thread late, but for those
who are following it actively, it is far more efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to
read "Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't
seem to find any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact
that the poster added his message within the area of quoted
material (blank lines) set off by characters, making it appear
to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse
of what I just posted. I can happily top-post if that's
acceptable...I just figured that bottom-posting was
netiquette...ok over and out.

[Paul]

OK Graham, I think I've got it set up so that my messages, and those replies
to my threads, are flagged and colored blue in OE. It would be nice if I
coudl get a reply or two, to test this out and make sure.

Thanks for the tip. Reading (or should I say, trying to read) the messages
via the microsoft.com site viewer was getting real old.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated discussion,
I started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find
any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added
his message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message
...
I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what
I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.
--
Paul
Top-posting but still confused
MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

Hi Paul,

With a message selected, from the Message menu, you can select Watch
Conversation and then that message and all responses thereto will be
highlighted in read. If you were to do this for messages that you post,
then it would apply to them.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Paul" wrote in message
...
OK Graham I have OE set up (I think). It is subscribed to whatever it is
calling General Questions here... but when I tried replying to your
message I
had no clue what to type in as the "send to" email address. Nor do I know
how to subscribe only to my threads. Or is the idea that I will be d/l all
messages in all threads? I'd rather just subscribe to my own. With all the
MVPs here there is precious little that I can contribute to other threads,
and I can easily do a search when I do want to post about a particular
problem.
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Like all advice he is free to accept or reject it.
You can lead a horse to water .....
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Oh, you just had to go opening that can of worms again!


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
As you are now posting regularly to the forum, you may find it more
convenient to access the NNTP server directly. The following link
explains how to do that for Outlook Express -
http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.htm Not only is it infinitely faster than
the web portals but the posts
and your replies are stored locally. Give it a whirl and see what
you think. --

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



grammatim wrote:
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is
the only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion, I started to post something yesterday and then thought
better of it. But I also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham
mentioned. Yes, it is illogical and does make reading more
difficult for people who come to the thread late, but for those
who are following it actively, it is far more efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to
read "Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't
seem to find any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact
that the poster added his message within the area of quoted
material (blank lines) set off by characters, making it appear
to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse
of what I just posted. I can happily top-post if that's
acceptable...I just figured that bottom-posting was
netiquette...ok over and out.

[Paul]

Thanks I'll see whether that option is more convenient than color-coding
threads that I've started.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message
...
Hi Paul,

With a message selected, from the Message menu, you can select Watch
Conversation and then that message and all responses thereto will be
highlighted in read. If you were to do this for messages that you post,
then it would apply to them.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Paul" wrote in message
...
OK Graham I have OE set up (I think). It is subscribed to whatever it is
calling General Questions here... but when I tried replying to your
message I
had no clue what to type in as the "send to" email address. Nor do I
know
how to subscribe only to my threads. Or is the idea that I will be d/l
all
messages in all threads? I'd rather just subscribe to my own. With all
the
MVPs here there is precious little that I can contribute to other
threads,
and I can easily do a search when I do want to post about a particular
problem.
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Like all advice he is free to accept or reject it.
You can lead a horse to water .....
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Oh, you just had to go opening that can of worms again!


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
As you are now posting regularly to the forum, you may find it more
convenient to access the NNTP server directly. The following link
explains how to do that for Outlook Express -
http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.htm Not only is it infinitely faster
than
the web portals but the posts
and your replies are stored locally. Give it a whirl and see what
you think. --

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



grammatim wrote:
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is
the only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion, I started to post something yesterday and then thought
better of it. But I also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham
mentioned. Yes, it is illogical and does make reading more
difficult for people who come to the thread late, but for those
who are following it actively, it is far more efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to
read "Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't
seem to find any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact
that the poster added his message within the area of quoted
material (blank lines) set off by characters, making it appear
to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse
of what I just posted. I can happily top-post if that's
acceptable...I just figured that bottom-posting was
netiquette...ok over and out.

[Paul]

Signature check.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Thanks I'll see whether that option is more convenient than color-coding
threads that I've started.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message
...
Hi Paul,

With a message selected, from the Message menu, you can select Watch
Conversation and then that message and all responses thereto will be
highlighted in read. If you were to do this for messages that you post,
then it would apply to them.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Paul" wrote in message
...
OK Graham I have OE set up (I think). It is subscribed to whatever it is
calling General Questions here... but when I tried replying to your
message I
had no clue what to type in as the "send to" email address. Nor do I
know
how to subscribe only to my threads. Or is the idea that I will be d/l
all
messages in all threads? I'd rather just subscribe to my own. With all
the
MVPs here there is precious little that I can contribute to other
threads,
and I can easily do a search when I do want to post about a particular
problem.
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Like all advice he is free to accept or reject it.
You can lead a horse to water .....
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Oh, you just had to go opening that can of worms again!


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
As you are now posting regularly to the forum, you may find it more
convenient to access the NNTP server directly. The following link
explains how to do that for Outlook Express -
http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.htm Not only is it infinitely faster
than
the web portals but the posts
and your replies are stored locally. Give it a whirl and see what
you think. --

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



grammatim wrote:
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is
the only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion, I started to post something yesterday and then thought
better of it. But I also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham
mentioned. Yes, it is illogical and does make reading more
difficult for people who come to the thread late, but for those
who are following it actively, it is far more efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only
to
read "Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't
seem to find any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact
that the poster added his message within the area of quoted
material (blank lines) set off by characters, making it appear
to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse
of what I just posted. I can happily top-post if that's
acceptable...I just figured that bottom-posting was
netiquette...ok over and out.

[Beth Melton]

"Paul" wrote in message
...
OK Graham I have OE set up (I think). It is subscribed to whatever it is
calling General Questions here... but when I tried replying to your
message I
had no clue what to type in as the "send to" email address. Nor do I know
how to subscribe only to my threads. Or is the idea that I will be d/l all
messages in all threads? I'd rather just subscribe to my own. With all the
MVPs here there is precious little that I can contribute to other threads,
and I can easily do a search when I do want to post about a particular
problem.

OE doesn't have a "Subscribe" option but you can easily find your posts and
all replies. Go to View/Current View/Show replies to my posts. Or press
Ctrl+H.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

[Beth Melton]

That makes sense. Can't say I blame him for not wanting to use more than one
newsreader. :-)

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
But grammatim has previously stated his preference for Google Groups as a
means of reading widely across Usenet; although he could connect directly
to msnews, I believe his ISP doesn't offer a news server on which he could
read the other groups, so he prefers to read them all in the same
interface.

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
"grammatim" wrote in message
...

(As for the can of worms, I don't use Outlook (Express).)

If you are referring to using it for email, I don't either. :-) I use
Outlook. You can add the ability to post to the newsgroups within Outlook
without the need to actually set it up for sending/receiving email. All
you need to do is add the News button, found in the Go category of the
Customize dialog box. Of course if you don't use Outlook then this isn't
applicable.

I don't think I could use Google Groups for the newsgroups. There's no
need to view "pages" of posts in OE or Windows Live Mail, you can easily
set your view to "Show replies to my messages", mark threads for
watching, and most important to me, it keeps track of what you've read
and not read. But I guess which one works the best is more a matter of
what you get used to. :-)


--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

Hi Paul,

Here's a reply for you.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Paul" wrote in message
...
OK Graham, I think I've got it set up so that my messages, and those
replies to my threads, are flagged and colored blue in OE. It would be
nice if I coudl get a reply or two, to test this out and make sure.

Thanks for the tip. Reading (or should I say, trying to read) the messages
via the microsoft.com site viewer was getting real old.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion, I started to post something yesterday and then thought better
of it. But I also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned.
Yes, it is illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who
come to the thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it
is far more efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find
any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster
added his message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set
off by characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message
...
I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what
I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just
figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.
--
Paul
Top-posting but still confused
MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"

[Graham Mayor]

Correct! Most senders will have false e-mail addresses anyway.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Paul wrote:
OK lets see if this makes it. I had to click on Reply to Group, not
reply to sender....

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Like all advice he is free to accept or reject it.
You can lead a horse to water .....
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Oh, you just had to go opening that can of worms again!


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
As you are now posting regularly to the forum, you may find it more
convenient to access the NNTP server directly. The following link
explains how to do that for Outlook Express -
http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.htm Not only is it infinitely faster
than the web portals but the posts
and your replies are stored locally. Give it a whirl and see what
you think. --

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



grammatim wrote:
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new
comments; google groups takes one to the bottom of the message,
and this is the only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses
top-posting. On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"

wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion, I started to post something yesterday and then
thought better of it. But I also prefer top-posting for the
reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is illogical and does make
reading more difficult for people who come to the thread late,
but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient. Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long
thread only
to read "Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and
don't seem to find any new content; this illusion is caused by
the fact that the poster added his message within the area of
quoted material (blank lines) set off by characters, making it
appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the
reverse of what I just posted. I can happily top-post if that's
acceptable...I just figured that bottom-posting was
netiquette...ok over and out.

[Paul]

THanks. Looks like I'm finally getting the hang of working the signature
into my messages. Yeah this is much better (faster) than going to the
website itself for these threads.

Learn something new every day.


--
Paul
Office 2007
XP SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message
...
Hi Paul,

Here's a reply for you.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Paul" wrote in message
...
OK Graham, I think I've got it set up so that my messages, and those
replies to my threads, are flagged and colored blue in OE. It would be
nice if I coudl get a reply or two, to test this out and make sure.

Thanks for the tip. Reading (or should I say, trying to read) the
messages via the microsoft.com site viewer was getting real old.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion, I started to post something yesterday and then thought
better of it. But I also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham
mentioned. Yes, it is illogical and does make reading more difficult for
people who come to the thread late, but for those who are following it
actively, it is far more efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find
any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster
added his message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set
off by characters, making it appear to be part of the previous
message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message
...
I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of
what I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just
figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.
--
Paul
Top-posting but still confused
MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"