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Variable Word Count
This is a reposting as I earlier put the question into the wrong place.
On my machine there are a number of stories I have written - varying from over 70000 words down to about 1000. I need the number of words to let potential editors know when I submit something. These are stored in a sub-section of Documents. Today I discovered that a right click offers "more" - giving me extra column categories than I didn't know about, and they include one specifically titled Word Count. This seemed like manna from Heaven until I created and used this extra column. Some of the variations between the original W Count from the document and the one automatically inserted by Windows in the column are quite striking. Some examples. The first figure is using Tools / Word count; The second from the W.C. option in the column in Documents from 'more' . 3959 3062 Diff -927 3786 3161 -625 12279 10321 -1958 5687 4565 -1122. A couple of counts match exactly at 2668 and 918 while a novel length piece of 71796 words shows a tiny difference of +3. The Word version I use is from Office XP Pro and the Documents folder I use is included in Vista. Has anyone any advice to give or comments to make? All comments would be appreciated. Cheers, Aitch. |
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You do know, don't you, that you can insert a NumWords field into the
document itself? That doesn't answer your question, of course, and perhaps someone else can do that. Do your documents contain empty paragraph marks? I think Word counts each of those as a word, along with certain other things such as page and section breaks. But I'm no expert on this, so I'll wait for one of them to weigh in. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "aitch" wrote in message ... This is a reposting as I earlier put the question into the wrong place. On my machine there are a number of stories I have written - varying from over 70000 words down to about 1000. I need the number of words to let potential editors know when I submit something. These are stored in a sub-section of Documents. Today I discovered that a right click offers "more" - giving me extra column categories than I didn't know about, and they include one specifically titled Word Count. This seemed like manna from Heaven until I created and used this extra column. Some of the variations between the original W Count from the document and the one automatically inserted by Windows in the column are quite striking. Some examples. The first figure is using Tools / Word count; The second from the W.C. option in the column in Documents from 'more' . 3959 3062 Diff -927 3786 3161 -625 12279 10321 -1958 5687 4565 -1122. A couple of counts match exactly at 2668 and 918 while a novel length piece of 71796 words shows a tiny difference of +3. The Word version I use is from Office XP Pro and the Documents folder I use is included in Vista. Has anyone any advice to give or comments to make? All comments would be appreciated. Cheers, Aitch. |
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Hello Suzanne,
I've been holding on but it looks as though there's no response to my mail apart from yours. Thanks for the interest. I'll simply carry on using the Word Count from Tools - I've never had any complaints from anyone about the count I've used and I feel happy with it. Regards, H "aitch" wrote: This is a reposting as I earlier put the question into the wrong place. On my machine there are a number of stories I have written - varying from over 70000 words down to about 1000. I need the number of words to let potential editors know when I submit something. These are stored in a sub-section of Documents. Today I discovered that a right click offers "more" - giving me extra column categories than I didn't know about, and they include one specifically titled Word Count. This seemed like manna from Heaven until I created and used this extra column. Some of the variations between the original W Count from the document and the one automatically inserted by Windows in the column are quite striking. Some examples. The first figure is using Tools / Word count; The second from the W.C. option in the column in Documents from 'more' . 3959 3062 Diff -927 3786 3161 -625 12279 10321 -1958 5687 4565 -1122. A couple of counts match exactly at 2668 and 918 while a novel length piece of 71796 words shows a tiny difference of +3. The Word version I use is from Office XP Pro and the Documents folder I use is included in Vista. Has anyone any advice to give or comments to make? All comments would be appreciated. Cheers, Aitch. |
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Hi H.,
The Windows Explorer preview properties for detail view with that particular c property column (Word count) appears to be a Vista only feature and is a 'by file type' association property. Hopefully one of the folks who has Office XP and Vista installed together will be able to test this a bit more. I don't have any data on the method Windows is using to determine the word count, but I suspect it's probably reading the value you get from inside Word Office Button=Prepare=Properties=Document Properties choose Advanced Properties=Statistics Do you get the same 'mismatch' between clicking the 'Words:' (counter) choice on the status bar in Word 2007 and that dialog as you get when viewing it in Windows Vista Explorer (open file) dialogs? =========== "aitch" wrote in message ... Hello Suzanne, I've been holding on but it looks as though there's no response to my mail apart from yours. Thanks for the interest. I'll simply carry on using the Word Count from Tools - I've never had any complaints from anyone about the count I've used and I feel happy with it. Regards, H -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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Hello Bob,
Sorry I've been a while replying but things have been a bit hectic. I had already decided just to ignore the difference in the count and rely on 'old faithful' in Word. It's the version from 2002 so your references to later editions leave me slightly confused. As I won't be following this up I just wanted to thank you for your input. "*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*" (Now where have I seen that somewhere recently). Regards. M. Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote: Hi H., The Windows Explorer preview properties for detail view with that particular c property column (Word count) appears to be a Vista only feature and is a 'by file type' association property. Hopefully one of the folks who has Office XP and Vista installed together will be able to test this a bit more. I don't have any data on the method Windows is using to determine the word count, but I suspect it's probably reading the value you get from inside Word Office Button=Prepare=Properties=Document Properties choose Advanced Properties=Statistics Do you get the same 'mismatch' between clicking the 'Words:' (counter) choice on the status bar in Word 2007 and that dialog as you get when viewing it in Windows Vista Explorer (open file) dialogs? =========== "aitch" wrote in message ... Hello Suzanne, I've been holding on but it looks as though there's no response to my mail apart from yours. Thanks for the interest. I'll simply carry on using the Word Count from Tools - I've never had any complaints from anyone about the count I've used and I feel happy with it. Regards, H -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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