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What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? Preferred by whom? This is the subject of one of those never-ending wars, akin to PC-vs.-Mac. Neither side will give in soon. One side maintains that one space is "correct" or at least sufficient when writing in proportional fonts, and that the two-spaces practice is a holdover from the fixed-pitch typewriter era. The other side maintains that two spaces look better and improve readability even in proportional fonts. Word takes a more hands-off approach. You can set either preference in the Spelling & Grammar options dialog, but an infraction will only be marked, not automatically changed. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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One of my managers and I have differing opinions on this topic. I'm a single
space, he'd a double space. When I'm working on something he worked on, I have to struggle with the desire to get rid of the extra space. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... Stephen Larivee wrote: What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? Preferred by whom? This is the subject of one of those never-ending wars, akin to PC-vs.-Mac. Neither side will give in soon. One side maintains that one space is "correct" or at least sufficient when writing in proportional fonts, and that the two-spaces practice is a holdover from the fixed-pitch typewriter era. The other side maintains that two spaces look better and improve readability even in proportional fonts. Word takes a more hands-off approach. You can set either preference in the Spelling & Grammar options dialog, but an infraction will only be marked, not automatically changed. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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I'll quickly hijack this thread Jay. You once kindly sent me service pack 1
foir Word 2000. Can you help re the help file? -- see other thread. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... |
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For what it's worth, in Swedish texts this isn't an issue at all: always one
space, even if you use an ancient typewriter... -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... One of my managers and I have differing opinions on this topic. I'm a single space, he'd a double space. When I'm working on something he worked on, I have to struggle with the desire to get rid of the extra space. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... Stephen Larivee wrote: What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? Preferred by whom? This is the subject of one of those never-ending wars, akin to PC-vs.-Mac. Neither side will give in soon. One side maintains that one space is "correct" or at least sufficient when writing in proportional fonts, and that the two-spaces practice is a holdover from the fixed-pitch typewriter era. The other side maintains that two spaces look better and improve readability even in proportional fonts. Word takes a more hands-off approach. You can set either preference in the Spelling & Grammar options dialog, but an infraction will only be marked, not automatically changed. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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I used to be a two space man, but my understanding is that this was
necessary when we used fixed spaced fonts like Courier. Now with kerning etc.the single space is sufficient. I confess that I still find myself doing it though. (But I resist the horrid modern practice of lower casing the i and omitting most punctuation!) "Stephen Larivee" wrote in message ... What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? |
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In all my years of using any word processor, I have never once had anyone
contact me to point out whether there is one too many spaces in my documents. Nor have they complained that there were'nt enough spaces. The bottom line is, who really cares? Except maybe those who chastise others for top posting ;-) Tom "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... : Stephen Larivee wrote: : What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces : at the end of a sentence? : : Preferred by whom? : : This is the subject of one of those never-ending wars, akin to PC-vs.-Mac. : Neither side will give in soon. : : One side maintains that one space is "correct" or at least sufficient when : writing in proportional fonts, and that the two-spaces practice is a : holdover from the fixed-pitch typewriter era. The other side maintains that : two spaces look better and improve readability even in proportional fonts. : : Word takes a more hands-off approach. You can set either preference in the : Spelling & Grammar options dialog, but an infraction will only be marked, : not automatically changed. : : -- : Regards, : Jay Freedman : Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : |
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When I'm writing, I usually do the one-space method -- though I grew up &
was taught the two-space method (even then, my typing teacher was cranky about the fact that I hit the spacebar with *the wrong thumb!). When I'm editing articles for a newsletter I don't usually go through & eliminate any two-spaces, though I do change paragraph formatting to extra-space-after rather than the two-carriage-returns. Actually, for the newsletter I do, I just make it look as easily-readable as possible. I don't hold to any hard & fast rules even with the styles I've set up & been using for years. I don't remember what I did for my thesis 15 years ago but I didn't get any complaints about it. bj "Tom Willett" wrote in message ... In all my years of using any word processor, I have never once had anyone contact me to point out whether there is one too many spaces in my documents. Nor have they complained that there were'nt enough spaces. The bottom line is, who really cares? Except maybe those who chastise others for top posting ;-) Tom "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... : Stephen Larivee wrote: : What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces : at the end of a sentence? : : Preferred by whom? : : This is the subject of one of those never-ending wars, akin to PC-vs.-Mac. : Neither side will give in soon. : |
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Tom Willett wrote: [Snippy] The bottom line is, who really cares? Except maybe those who chastise others for top posting ;-) Top posting is a heinous crime, for which you should be flogged around the fleet. Dave And no emoticon get-out, it's a serious business y'know. :-\~ |
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"Dave Symes" wrote in message ... : In article , : Tom Willett wrote: : [Snippy] : : The bottom line is, who really cares? Except maybe those who chastise : others for top posting ;-) : : Top posting is a heinous crime, for which you should be flogged around the : fleet. Which fleet would that be? |
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Oh please no! I have enough trouble getting him to communicate in English!
He seems to think I am a mindreader. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... For what it's worth, in Swedish texts this isn't an issue at all: always one space, even if you use an ancient typewriter... -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... One of my managers and I have differing opinions on this topic. I'm a single space, he'd a double space. When I'm working on something he worked on, I have to struggle with the desire to get rid of the extra space. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... Stephen Larivee wrote: What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? Preferred by whom? This is the subject of one of those never-ending wars, akin to PC-vs.-Mac. Neither side will give in soon. One side maintains that one space is "correct" or at least sufficient when writing in proportional fonts, and that the two-spaces practice is a holdover from the fixed-pitch typewriter era. The other side maintains that two spaces look better and improve readability even in proportional fonts. Word takes a more hands-off approach. You can set either preference in the Spelling & Grammar options dialog, but an infraction will only be marked, not automatically changed. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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-- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Tom Willett" wrote in message ... "Dave Symes" wrote in message ... : In article , : Tom Willett wrote: : [Snippy] : : The bottom line is, who really cares? Except maybe those who chastise : others for top posting ;-) : : Top posting is a heinous crime, for which you should be flogged around the : fleet. Which fleet would that be? |
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"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... : http://www.fleetlabs.com/index.php : : -- : JoAnn Paules : MVP Microsoft [Publisher] : Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" : : : : "Tom Willett" wrote in message : ... : : "Dave Symes" wrote in message : ... : : In article , : : Tom Willett wrote: : : [Snippy] : : : : The bottom line is, who really cares? Except maybe those who chastise : : others for top posting ;-) : : : : Top posting is a heinous crime, for which you should be flogged around : the : : fleet. : : Which fleet would that be? : : : : |
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For some reason my similar reply to this post (made eleven minutes before
yours) is not showing up, and one posted by Terry is struck through and marked as "unavailable." Looks like we're having server upsets again. sigh -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... Stephen Larivee wrote: What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? Preferred by whom? This is the subject of one of those never-ending wars, akin to PC-vs.-Mac. Neither side will give in soon. One side maintains that one space is "correct" or at least sufficient when writing in proportional fonts, and that the two-spaces practice is a holdover from the fixed-pitch typewriter era. The other side maintains that two spaces look better and improve readability even in proportional fonts. Word takes a more hands-off approach. You can set either preference in the Spelling & Grammar options dialog, but an infraction will only be marked, not automatically changed. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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"Stephen Larivee" wrote in message ... What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? OK, now since you posted over 10 hours ago and have gotten quite a bit of advice, here is the definitive answer. It totally depends on your target audience and personal preference in that order. If you are doing a document that is going to be published and are told to use a particular style publication manual then you need to use it for your work. If this is correspondence to a business associate, where neatness counts, find out what the company policy may be. After all you are working for the company. If they don't care, as long as it is neat and readable, then you shouldn't care either. I came up through the typewriter days and had to double space after the period all the time. I now normally single space on a computer as this is just one less keystroke I have to make between sentences. I still forget sometime and do put double spaces between sentences some times. Again mostly it will be personal choice. Have a great day. |
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Weird. I cannot see my post either. But it was of no great significance.
Terry Farrell "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For some reason my similar reply to this post (made eleven minutes before yours) is not showing up, and one posted by Terry is struck through and marked as "unavailable." Looks like we're having server upsets again. sigh -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... Stephen Larivee wrote: What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? Preferred by whom? This is the subject of one of those never-ending wars, akin to PC-vs.-Mac. Neither side will give in soon. One side maintains that one space is "correct" or at least sufficient when writing in proportional fonts, and that the two-spaces practice is a holdover from the fixed-pitch typewriter era. The other side maintains that two spaces look better and improve readability even in proportional fonts. Word takes a more hands-off approach. You can set either preference in the Spelling & Grammar options dialog, but an infraction will only be marked, not automatically changed. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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-- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... Oh please no! I have enough trouble getting him to communicate in English! He seems to think I am a mindreader. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... For what it's worth, in Swedish texts this isn't an issue at all: always one space, even if you use an ancient typewriter... -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... One of my managers and I have differing opinions on this topic. I'm a single space, he'd a double space. When I'm working on something he worked on, I have to struggle with the desire to get rid of the extra space. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... Stephen Larivee wrote: What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? Preferred by whom? This is the subject of one of those never-ending wars, akin to PC-vs.-Mac. Neither side will give in soon. One side maintains that one space is "correct" or at least sufficient when writing in proportional fonts, and that the two-spaces practice is a holdover from the fixed-pitch typewriter era. The other side maintains that two spaces look better and improve readability even in proportional fonts. Word takes a more hands-off approach. You can set either preference in the Spelling & Grammar options dialog, but an infraction will only be marked, not automatically changed. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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I had wondered if one of these choices had emerged as the standard for word
processing. I was going to try to adapt to the "one space after the period" if that were the standard of today. Apparently you can still do it either way so I will stick with the way I have been typing/word processing for many years now, two spaces after the period, with no guilt feelings about violating current usage. Thank you, everyone, for all the input!! "LVTravel" wrote in message ... "Stephen Larivee" wrote in message ... What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? OK, now since you posted over 10 hours ago and have gotten quite a bit of advice, here is the definitive answer. It totally depends on your target audience and personal preference in that order. If you are doing a document that is going to be published and are told to use a particular style publication manual then you need to use it for your work. If this is correspondence to a business associate, where neatness counts, find out what the company policy may be. After all you are working for the company. If they don't care, as long as it is neat and readable, then you shouldn't care either. I came up through the typewriter days and had to double space after the period all the time. I now normally single space on a computer as this is just one less keystroke I have to make between sentences. I still forget sometime and do put double spaces between sentences some times. Again mostly it will be personal choice. Have a great day. |
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Hi Stephen;
One more voice to the choir after having watched this conversation... Whenever it arises :-) I'm always tempted to ask one fundamental question; If you think back to when you first were taught to print sentences, did your teacher instruct you to put "2 spaces" between sentences or was the instruction to leave "space" between sentences? Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 4/3/10 12:59 PM, in article , "Stephen Larivee" wrote: I had wondered if one of these choices had emerged as the standard for word processing. I was going to try to adapt to the "one space after the period" if that were the standard of today. Apparently you can still do it either way so I will stick with the way I have been typing/word processing for many years now, two spaces after the period, with no guilt feelings about violating current usage. Thank you, everyone, for all the input!! "LVTravel" wrote in message ... "Stephen Larivee" wrote in message ... What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? OK, now since you posted over 10 hours ago and have gotten quite a bit of advice, here is the definitive answer. It totally depends on your target audience and personal preference in that order. If you are doing a document that is going to be published and are told to use a particular style publication manual then you need to use it for your work. If this is correspondence to a business associate, where neatness counts, find out what the company policy may be. After all you are working for the company. If they don't care, as long as it is neat and readable, then you shouldn't care either. I came up through the typewriter days and had to double space after the period all the time. I now normally single space on a computer as this is just one less keystroke I have to make between sentences. I still forget sometime and do put double spaces between sentences some times. Again mostly it will be personal choice. Have a great day. |
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When I was first taught to *type* the teacher was most insistant about
2-spaces & even got cranky because I used my *left* thumb to press the spacebar (I still do, more than 50 years later). My early *hand*-writing school years were in several different states/countries/languages; no telling what I was told. bj "CyberTaz" wrote in message .. . Hi Stephen; One more voice to the choir after having watched this conversation... Whenever it arises :-) I'm always tempted to ask one fundamental question; If you think back to when you first were taught to print sentences, did your teacher instruct you to put "2 spaces" between sentences or was the instruction to leave "space" between sentences? Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac |
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I would have no idea which thumb I use for spacing; apparently it's the
right, but I would have assumed you use whichever is handiest at the time, same as for shifting. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "bj" wrote in message ... When I was first taught to *type* the teacher was most insistant about 2-spaces & even got cranky because I used my *left* thumb to press the spacebar (I still do, more than 50 years later). My early *hand*-writing school years were in several different states/countries/languages; no telling what I was told. bj "CyberTaz" wrote in message .. . Hi Stephen; One more voice to the choir after having watched this conversation... Whenever it arises :-) I'm always tempted to ask one fundamental question; If you think back to when you first were taught to print sentences, did your teacher instruct you to put "2 spaces" between sentences or was the instruction to leave "space" between sentences? Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac |
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I would have no idea which thumb I use for spacing; apparently it's the right, but I would have assumed you use whichever is handiest at the time, same as for shifting. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "bj" wrote in message ... When I was first taught to *type* the teacher was most insistant about 2-spaces & even got cranky because I used my *left* thumb to press the spacebar (I still do, more than 50 years later). My early *hand*-writing school years were in several different states/countries/languages; no telling what I was told. bj "CyberTaz" wrote in message .. . Hi Stephen; One more voice to the choir after having watched this conversation... Whenever it arises :-) I'm always tempted to ask one fundamental question; If you think back to when you first were taught to print sentences, did your teacher instruct you to put "2 spaces" between sentences or was the instruction to leave "space" between sentences? Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac Actually in typewriter days it was always the right thumb, even for southpaws that were trained as touch typists. And yes, my typing teacher, Miss Becky Moore, would really get on your case if you used anything other than your right thumb. |
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I guess my typing teacher taught me well, then, even if I still can't type
on the top row without looking. It's a funny thing about that, actually: I *can* type many characters on the top row without looking, but if something hides the top row (as when I'm copying from a book that sticks out over the edge of the desk and shades the top row of the keyboard (which is on a lower keyboard tray), then I will inevitably miss when I go for a hyphen or parenthesis. It's bound to be purely psychological, since I can hit them unerringly without looking otherwise. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "LVTravel" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I would have no idea which thumb I use for spacing; apparently it's the right, but I would have assumed you use whichever is handiest at the time, same as for shifting. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "bj" wrote in message ... When I was first taught to *type* the teacher was most insistant about 2-spaces & even got cranky because I used my *left* thumb to press the spacebar (I still do, more than 50 years later). My early *hand*-writing school years were in several different states/countries/languages; no telling what I was told. bj "CyberTaz" wrote in message .. . Hi Stephen; One more voice to the choir after having watched this conversation... Whenever it arises :-) I'm always tempted to ask one fundamental question; If you think back to when you first were taught to print sentences, did your teacher instruct you to put "2 spaces" between sentences or was the instruction to leave "space" between sentences? Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac Actually in typewriter days it was always the right thumb, even for southpaws that were trained as touch typists. And yes, my typing teacher, Miss Becky Moore, would really get on your case if you used anything other than your right thumb. |
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Exactly the point...
It wasn't until the introduction of the typewriter that the concept of "a" space took on any finite dimension. The objective of "space between sentences" is for the purpose of visual clarity, but the appropriate amount of space is subjectively predicated on what precedes & follows the space. I seriously doubt that '2 spaces' ever dripped from the tongue or even crossed the mind of Guttenberg. As so often happens, laxity in communication is what has triggered this seemingly unending but totally unfounded debate. My 'guess' is that the actual original instruction was "Press the spacebar twice after a period." because pressing the spacebar once often did not create a sufficient amount of space. The compensatory workaround for *increasing the amount of space* became loosely translated into "type 2 spaces". Logically there can't be "2 spaces" -- the size of the 1 space is either more or less, narrower or wider. To accomplish the objective on a typewriter necessitates pressing the space bar a second time, whereas the precise adjustment of that space is intrinsic to proportional fonts. Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 4/3/10 5:35 PM, in article , "bj" wrote: When I was first taught to *type* the teacher was most insistant about 2-spaces & even got cranky because I used my *left* thumb to press the spacebar (I still do, more than 50 years later). My early *hand*-writing school years were in several different states/countries/languages; no telling what I was told. bj "CyberTaz" wrote in message .. . Hi Stephen; One more voice to the choir after having watched this conversation... Whenever it arises :-) I'm always tempted to ask one fundamental question; If you think back to when you first were taught to print sentences, did your teacher instruct you to put "2 spaces" between sentences or was the instruction to leave "space" between sentences? Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac |
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"LVTravel" wrote in message
... Actually in typewriter days it was always the right thumb, even for southpaws that were trained as touch typists. And yes, my typing teacher, Miss Becky Moore, would really get on your case if you used anything other than your right thumb. (My other reply went off on cyber-vacation.) I think we must have had the same teacher, or a clone thereof. :-) bj (left-thumb-spacing since 1957) |
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Stephen Larivee typed: What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? It would seem that, with fixed-width fonts, a doublespace is used. With proportional spaced fonts it's often only necessary to use one. But you'll find a lot of various opinions - some even the opposite of what I just gave. I learned two on the typewriter and still use it; no one has ever complained and most seem to not care anyway. I'd say it's up to the person at the keyboard and what he thinks it looks like. HTH, Twayne` |
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Dave Symes typed: In article , Tom Willett wrote: [Snippy] The bottom line is, who really cares? Except maybe those who chastise others for top posting ;-) Top posting is a heinous crime, for which you should be flogged around the fleet. On some sites. But here the concensus seems to be that it doesn't matter. I bottom post unless there is already a top post; then I top post to keep it all aligned. It's a silly thing for anyone to argue about or even debate, actually. Netiquette & most gurus believe in the trim & inline, then bottom if no inline. Personally I couldn't care which. I stay out of trouble by simply using what the concensus is. Oh, and ignoring dummies who troll to make an arguement out of it. I agree - who really cares? HTH, Twayne` Dave And no emoticon get-out, it's a serious business y'know. :-\~ |
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Suzanne S. Barnhill typed: For some reason my similar reply to this post (made eleven minutes before yours) is not showing up, and one posted by Terry is struck through and marked as "unavailable." Looks like we're having server upsets again. sigh Had one a moment ago. I've found that if you go on to the next post, then come back to the lined thru one, often it'll show the second time. Just a reload doesn't work though. From Here, anyway. HTH, Twayne` "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... Stephen Larivee wrote: What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? Preferred by whom? This is the subject of one of those never-ending wars, akin to PC-vs.-Mac. Neither side will give in soon. One side maintains that one space is "correct" or at least sufficient when writing in proportional fonts, and that the two-spaces practice is a holdover from the fixed-pitch typewriter era. The other side maintains that two spaces look better and improve readability even in proportional fonts. Word takes a more hands-off approach. You can set either preference in the Spelling & Grammar options dialog, but an infraction will only be marked, not automatically changed. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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CyberTaz typed: Hi Stephen; One more voice to the choir after having watched this conversation... Whenever it arises :-) I'm always tempted to ask one fundamental question; If you think back to when you first were taught to print sentences, did your teacher instruct you to put "2 spaces" between sentences or was the instruction to leave "space" between sentences? Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac Yeah, but ... wouldn't you consider cursive writing to be moot compared to a set of keys? On 4/3/10 12:59 PM, in article , "Stephen Larivee" wrote: I had wondered if one of these choices had emerged as the standard for word processing. I was going to try to adapt to the "one space after the period" if that were the standard of today. Apparently you can still do it either way so I will stick with the way I have been typing/word processing for many years now, two spaces after the period, with no guilt feelings about violating current usage. Thank you, everyone, for all the input!! "LVTravel" wrote in message ... "Stephen Larivee" wrote in message ... What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? OK, now since you posted over 10 hours ago and have gotten quite a bit of advice, here is the definitive answer. It totally depends on your target audience and personal preference in that order. If you are doing a document that is going to be published and are told to use a particular style publication manual then you need to use it for your work. If this is correspondence to a business associate, where neatness counts, find out what the company policy may be. After all you are working for the company. If they don't care, as long as it is neat and readable, then you shouldn't care either. I came up through the typewriter days and had to double space after the period all the time. I now normally single space on a computer as this is just one less keystroke I have to make between sentences. I still forget sometime and do put double spaces between sentences some times. Again mostly it will be personal choice. Have a great day. |
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What really annoys me about bottom posting is that many perpetrators NEVER
trim the post. I agree that keeping at least the previous answer when you reply is necessary, but sometimes replies are so far down the page I just refuse to scroll down to read the answer. Top posting a simple answer to a simple question seems to work really well in here where most users top post. Terry Farrell "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , Dave Symes typed: In article , Tom Willett wrote: [Snippy] The bottom line is, who really cares? Except maybe those who chastise others for top posting ;-) Top posting is a heinous crime, for which you should be flogged around the fleet. On some sites. But here the concensus seems to be that it doesn't matter. I bottom post unless there is already a top post; then I top post to keep it all aligned. It's a silly thing for anyone to argue about or even debate, actually. Netiquette & most gurus believe in the trim & inline, then bottom if no inline. Personally I couldn't care which. I stay out of trouble by simply using what the concensus is. Oh, and ignoring dummies who troll to make an arguement out of it. I agree - who really cares? HTH, Twayne` Dave And no emoticon get-out, it's a serious business y'know. :-\~ |
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Surely back in the days when printing was achieved by placing mirror
characters onto a plate, there must have been a set of spaces for different uses (following a comma, following quotation marks, following an end of sentence stop, etc.). The typewriter had a limited availability of characters, so the number of different spaces was sacrificed - hence the need for a double space after the end-of-sentence stop. Sometimes when I read my daily newspaper, I wish they would return to 'hot metal' presses! Terry Farrell "CyberTaz" wrote in message .. . Exactly the point... It wasn't until the introduction of the typewriter that the concept of "a" space took on any finite dimension. The objective of "space between sentences" is for the purpose of visual clarity, but the appropriate amount of space is subjectively predicated on what precedes & follows the space. I seriously doubt that '2 spaces' ever dripped from the tongue or even crossed the mind of Guttenberg. As so often happens, laxity in communication is what has triggered this seemingly unending but totally unfounded debate. My 'guess' is that the actual original instruction was "Press the spacebar twice after a period." because pressing the spacebar once often did not create a sufficient amount of space. The compensatory workaround for *increasing the amount of space* became loosely translated into "type 2 spaces". Logically there can't be "2 spaces" -- the size of the 1 space is either more or less, narrower or wider. To accomplish the objective on a typewriter necessitates pressing the space bar a second time, whereas the precise adjustment of that space is intrinsic to proportional fonts. Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac |
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"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
... Sometimes when I read my daily newspaper, I wish they would return to 'hot metal' presses! The way things are going, you won't have to worry about what's *on* the paper -- there won't *be* any paper, it'll all be online. Maybe a Daily Linker to give titles & article links. Probably all by e-mail. I sure do spend a lot less time on the (ever-shrinking) daily paper than I used to! even the Sunday paper doesn't take that long anymore. It's confusing my routine. :-) bj (what are they lining bird-cages with now?) |
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Along with not trimming, there is the issue of not noticing that you are
posting your answer in an existing line, which is going to start with a quote character. This makes it very hard to determine where the reply begins, since it appears to be part of the quoted text. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... What really annoys me about bottom posting is that many perpetrators NEVER trim the post. I agree that keeping at least the previous answer when you reply is necessary, but sometimes replies are so far down the page I just refuse to scroll down to read the answer. Top posting a simple answer to a simple question seems to work really well in here where most users top post. Terry Farrell "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , Dave Symes typed: In article , Tom Willett wrote: [Snippy] The bottom line is, who really cares? Except maybe those who chastise others for top posting ;-) Top posting is a heinous crime, for which you should be flogged around the fleet. On some sites. But here the concensus seems to be that it doesn't matter. I bottom post unless there is already a top post; then I top post to keep it all aligned. It's a silly thing for anyone to argue about or even debate, actually. Netiquette & most gurus believe in the trim & inline, then bottom if no inline. Personally I couldn't care which. I stay out of trouble by simply using what the concensus is. Oh, and ignoring dummies who troll to make an arguement out of it. I agree - who really cares? HTH, Twayne` Dave And no emoticon get-out, it's a serious business y'know. :-\~ |
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When compositors set type by hand, they insert spaces of varying widths to
make up the line. A Linotype automatically inserts the correct number of thin spaces between words to justify the line (the Linotypist types all the characters, pressing the spacebar once after each; when he hits Return, the machine does the spacing automatically, just as in Word). In some typesetting manual, I saw an instruction to leave "the space of the line" (that is, the automatic space, whatever that turns out to be) after a period, which would mean one press of the spacebar. By and large, if you examine contemporary printed books from mainline publishing houses, you'll see this convention followed, but if you look at older books (typeset in the nineteenth century, for example), you may well see more space between sentences. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... Surely back in the days when printing was achieved by placing mirror characters onto a plate, there must have been a set of spaces for different uses (following a comma, following quotation marks, following an end of sentence stop, etc.). The typewriter had a limited availability of characters, so the number of different spaces was sacrificed - hence the need for a double space after the end-of-sentence stop. Sometimes when I read my daily newspaper, I wish they would return to 'hot metal' presses! Terry Farrell "CyberTaz" wrote in message .. . Exactly the point... It wasn't until the introduction of the typewriter that the concept of "a" space took on any finite dimension. The objective of "space between sentences" is for the purpose of visual clarity, but the appropriate amount of space is subjectively predicated on what precedes & follows the space. I seriously doubt that '2 spaces' ever dripped from the tongue or even crossed the mind of Guttenberg. As so often happens, laxity in communication is what has triggered this seemingly unending but totally unfounded debate. My 'guess' is that the actual original instruction was "Press the spacebar twice after a period." because pressing the spacebar once often did not create a sufficient amount of space. The compensatory workaround for *increasing the amount of space* became loosely translated into "type 2 spaces". Logically there can't be "2 spaces" -- the size of the 1 space is either more or less, narrower or wider. To accomplish the objective on a typewriter necessitates pressing the space bar a second time, whereas the precise adjustment of that space is intrinsic to proportional fonts. Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac |
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On 4/4/10 12:48 PM, in article , "Twayne" wrote: Yeah, but ... wouldn't you consider cursive writing to be moot compared to a set of keys? snip Absolutely not. The purpose of the space is based on the same fundamental principle regardless of the technology being used to produce the document :-) Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac |
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Suzanne S. Barnhill typed: Along with not trimming, there is the issue of not noticing that you are posting your answer in an existing line, which is going to start with a quote character. This makes it very hard to determine where the reply begins, since it appears to be part of the quoted text. Gotta agree there! A Return before and after a response improves readability a LOT. HTH, Twayne` |
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On Apr 2, 1:34*pm, "Stephen Larivee" wrote:
What is the preferred way of typing today, to put one or two spaces at the end of a sentence? It seems like using two spaces is becoming less popular, but you still them used consistently it in certain technical manuals that have many decimals, symbols, etc. In those situations they make the text more readable. Tim Mastrogiacomo |
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