Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Annamarie Pluhar
 
Posts: n/a
Default Table of Contents -won't behave + spurious section breaks

I'm working on learning how to use TOC functionality. I have been reading
various articles on TOC on the MVP site - however I am testing with a
document that was sent by email by a colleague.

TOC function won't work at all. Is this because I don't have the .dot file
for the file on my computer?
Every time I try to set TOC levels they don't "stick".

Colleague also tells me that the doc adds continuous section breaks for no
reason that he can find. I don't know what his skill level is, but he said
he was on phone with MS for 2 hours. Perhaps he simply has a broken/buggy
template?

I have to work with this doc.. suggestions welcome.


Annamarie
Instructional Designer


  #2   Report Post  
Jezebel
 
Posts: n/a
Default



TOC function won't work at all. Is this because I don't have the .dot file
for the file on my computer?
Every time I try to set TOC levels they don't "stick".


Stick in what sense? No, you don't need the DOT file on your computer.
Specify the TOC entries using styles with the levels you want (eg use
Heading 1, Heading 2, etc). Define the TOC styles to look the way you want.
That's all there is for a vanilla TOC.


Colleague also tells me that the doc adds continuous section breaks for no
reason that he can find. I don't know what his skill level is, but he said
he was on phone with MS for 2 hours. Perhaps he simply has a broken/buggy
template?


Word doesn't add section breaks for *no* reason. (The reason might be
obscure, but there will be one ... although it's not a problem I've ever
encountered.) Whatever the cause, it has nothing to do with his template.


  #3   Report Post  
Annamarie Pluhar
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Hi

Thanks for responding. I've made progress and if my stupid mistakes can help
anyone else out I'm confessing. Mind you I'm working with a document that I
inherit from a colleague.

"Stick" in the sense that I specify the TOC entries for the styles and the
levels I want, (Insert/Tables and Indexes/Table of Contents/Options) click
OK, and when I reopen the dialog box to specify the TOC entries they aren't
there. I've done this over and over. However, I missed noticing that while
I was defining the styles "Chapter Title" and Chapter Sub-title" the Header
1, Header 2 and Header 3 were already assigned to TOC 1, 2 and 3
respectively.

Next problem is said colleague defined Chapter Subtitle with left and right
indents that caused a single column of characters to be the TOC 2 entry.

Once I figured that out it's been working fine.

Thanks.


"Jezebel" wrote in message
...


TOC function won't work at all. Is this because I don't have the .dot

file
for the file on my computer?
Every time I try to set TOC levels they don't "stick".


Stick in what sense? No, you don't need the DOT file on your computer.
Specify the TOC entries using styles with the levels you want (eg use
Heading 1, Heading 2, etc). Define the TOC styles to look the way you

want.
That's all there is for a vanilla TOC.


Colleague also tells me that the doc adds continuous section breaks for

no
reason that he can find. I don't know what his skill level is, but he

said
he was on phone with MS for 2 hours. Perhaps he simply has a

broken/buggy
template?


Word doesn't add section breaks for *no* reason. (The reason might be
obscure, but there will be one ... although it's not a problem I've ever
encountered.) Whatever the cause, it has nothing to do with his template.




  #4   Report Post  
Annamarie Pluhar
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I take it back. The TOC entries aren't "sticking".... I'm wondering if it's
my application... ??

Do continuous section breaks get placed in a document as a result of setting
"keep with next" in the paragraph formatting of a Style?

Thanks


"Annamarie Pluhar" wrote in message
...
Hi

Thanks for responding. I've made progress and if my stupid mistakes can

help
anyone else out I'm confessing. Mind you I'm working with a document that

I
inherit from a colleague.

"Stick" in the sense that I specify the TOC entries for the styles and the
levels I want, (Insert/Tables and Indexes/Table of Contents/Options)

click
OK, and when I reopen the dialog box to specify the TOC entries they

aren't
there. I've done this over and over. However, I missed noticing that

while
I was defining the styles "Chapter Title" and Chapter Sub-title" the

Header
1, Header 2 and Header 3 were already assigned to TOC 1, 2 and 3
respectively.

Next problem is said colleague defined Chapter Subtitle with left and

right
indents that caused a single column of characters to be the TOC 2 entry.

Once I figured that out it's been working fine.

Thanks.


"Jezebel" wrote in message
...


TOC function won't work at all. Is this because I don't have the .dot

file
for the file on my computer?
Every time I try to set TOC levels they don't "stick".


Stick in what sense? No, you don't need the DOT file on your computer.
Specify the TOC entries using styles with the levels you want (eg use
Heading 1, Heading 2, etc). Define the TOC styles to look the way you

want.
That's all there is for a vanilla TOC.


Colleague also tells me that the doc adds continuous section breaks

for
no
reason that he can find. I don't know what his skill level is, but he

said
he was on phone with MS for 2 hours. Perhaps he simply has a

broken/buggy
template?


Word doesn't add section breaks for *no* reason. (The reason might be
obscure, but there will be one ... although it's not a problem I've ever
encountered.) Whatever the cause, it has nothing to do with his

template.






  #5   Report Post  
Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I believe your problem lies in "when I reopen the dialog box to specify the
TOC entries." You basically can't revisit this dialog. When you do, Word
wants to create a new TOC from scratch, so everything is always set back to
the default. You need to either get it right the first time or learn to edit
the TOC field manually; see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCSwitches.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Annamarie Pluhar" wrote in message
...
Hi

Thanks for responding. I've made progress and if my stupid mistakes can

help
anyone else out I'm confessing. Mind you I'm working with a document that

I
inherit from a colleague.

"Stick" in the sense that I specify the TOC entries for the styles and the
levels I want, (Insert/Tables and Indexes/Table of Contents/Options)

click
OK, and when I reopen the dialog box to specify the TOC entries they

aren't
there. I've done this over and over. However, I missed noticing that

while
I was defining the styles "Chapter Title" and Chapter Sub-title" the

Header
1, Header 2 and Header 3 were already assigned to TOC 1, 2 and 3
respectively.

Next problem is said colleague defined Chapter Subtitle with left and

right
indents that caused a single column of characters to be the TOC 2 entry.

Once I figured that out it's been working fine.

Thanks.


"Jezebel" wrote in message
...


TOC function won't work at all. Is this because I don't have the .dot

file
for the file on my computer?
Every time I try to set TOC levels they don't "stick".


Stick in what sense? No, you don't need the DOT file on your computer.
Specify the TOC entries using styles with the levels you want (eg use
Heading 1, Heading 2, etc). Define the TOC styles to look the way you

want.
That's all there is for a vanilla TOC.


Colleague also tells me that the doc adds continuous section breaks

for
no
reason that he can find. I don't know what his skill level is, but he

said
he was on phone with MS for 2 hours. Perhaps he simply has a

broken/buggy
template?


Word doesn't add section breaks for *no* reason. (The reason might be
obscure, but there will be one ... although it's not a problem I've ever
encountered.) Whatever the cause, it has nothing to do with his

template.







  #6   Report Post  
Stefan Blom
 
Posts: n/a
Default

If you want to revisit the Index and Tables dialog box without
actually creating a new TOC, you must delete the existing TOC first;
then you can recreate it with different settings. Usually, however, it
is quite sufficient to *update* the existing TOC to reflect changes in
your document.

In order to force an update of a table of contents, do the following:
right-click the TOC and choose to "Update field" (or, alternatively,
place the cursor inside the TOC and press F9). If Word presents a
dialog box, make sure that you specify that the entire table should be
updated.

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I believe your problem lies in "when I reopen the dialog box to

specify the
TOC entries." You basically can't revisit this dialog. When you do,

Word
wants to create a new TOC from scratch, so everything is always set

back to
the default. You need to either get it right the first time or learn

to edit
the TOC field manually; see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCSwitches.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Annamarie Pluhar" wrote in message
...
Hi

Thanks for responding. I've made progress and if my stupid

mistakes can
help
anyone else out I'm confessing. Mind you I'm working with a

document that
I
inherit from a colleague.

"Stick" in the sense that I specify the TOC entries for the styles

and the
levels I want, (Insert/Tables and Indexes/Table of

Contents/Options)
click
OK, and when I reopen the dialog box to specify the TOC entries

they
aren't
there. I've done this over and over. However, I missed noticing

that
while
I was defining the styles "Chapter Title" and Chapter Sub-title"

the
Header
1, Header 2 and Header 3 were already assigned to TOC 1, 2 and 3
respectively.

Next problem is said colleague defined Chapter Subtitle with left

and
right
indents that caused a single column of characters to be the TOC 2

entry.

Once I figured that out it's been working fine.

Thanks.


"Jezebel" wrote in message
...


TOC function won't work at all. Is this because I don't have

the .dot
file
for the file on my computer?
Every time I try to set TOC levels they don't "stick".

Stick in what sense? No, you don't need the DOT file on your

computer.
Specify the TOC entries using styles with the levels you want

(eg use
Heading 1, Heading 2, etc). Define the TOC styles to look the

way you
want.
That's all there is for a vanilla TOC.


Colleague also tells me that the doc adds continuous section

breaks
for
no
reason that he can find. I don't know what his skill level is,

but he
said
he was on phone with MS for 2 hours. Perhaps he simply has a

broken/buggy
template?

Word doesn't add section breaks for *no* reason. (The reason

might be
obscure, but there will be one ... although it's not a problem

I've ever
encountered.) Whatever the cause, it has nothing to do with his

template.












  #7   Report Post  
Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
Posts: n/a
Default

If you want to revisit the Index and Tables dialog box without
actually creating a new TOC, you must delete the existing TOC first;
then you can recreate it with different settings.


Hmm, that's seems a bit self-contradictory; if you delete the existing TOC,
then you *must* create a new one.

Usually, however, it
is quite sufficient to *update* the existing TOC to reflect changes in
your document.


Not if you want to change the TOC itself (include more levels, omit some
headings). Updating merely changes the TOC, as is, to reflect the current
document content. If that content includes Level 1 paragraphs that you don't
want in the TOC, there are ways to deal with this outside the TOC dialog,
but the easiest way is to clear the 1 from the style in the TOC Options
dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
If you want to revisit the Index and Tables dialog box without
actually creating a new TOC, you must delete the existing TOC first;
then you can recreate it with different settings. Usually, however, it
is quite sufficient to *update* the existing TOC to reflect changes in
your document.

In order to force an update of a table of contents, do the following:
right-click the TOC and choose to "Update field" (or, alternatively,
place the cursor inside the TOC and press F9). If Word presents a
dialog box, make sure that you specify that the entire table should be
updated.

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I believe your problem lies in "when I reopen the dialog box to

specify the
TOC entries." You basically can't revisit this dialog. When you do,

Word
wants to create a new TOC from scratch, so everything is always set

back to
the default. You need to either get it right the first time or learn

to edit
the TOC field manually; see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCSwitches.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Annamarie Pluhar" wrote in message
...
Hi

Thanks for responding. I've made progress and if my stupid

mistakes can
help
anyone else out I'm confessing. Mind you I'm working with a

document that
I
inherit from a colleague.

"Stick" in the sense that I specify the TOC entries for the styles

and the
levels I want, (Insert/Tables and Indexes/Table of

Contents/Options)
click
OK, and when I reopen the dialog box to specify the TOC entries

they
aren't
there. I've done this over and over. However, I missed noticing

that
while
I was defining the styles "Chapter Title" and Chapter Sub-title"

the
Header
1, Header 2 and Header 3 were already assigned to TOC 1, 2 and 3
respectively.

Next problem is said colleague defined Chapter Subtitle with left

and
right
indents that caused a single column of characters to be the TOC 2

entry.

Once I figured that out it's been working fine.

Thanks.


"Jezebel" wrote in message
...


TOC function won't work at all. Is this because I don't have

the .dot
file
for the file on my computer?
Every time I try to set TOC levels they don't "stick".

Stick in what sense? No, you don't need the DOT file on your

computer.
Specify the TOC entries using styles with the levels you want

(eg use
Heading 1, Heading 2, etc). Define the TOC styles to look the

way you
want.
That's all there is for a vanilla TOC.


Colleague also tells me that the doc adds continuous section

breaks
for
no
reason that he can find. I don't know what his skill level is,

but he
said
he was on phone with MS for 2 hours. Perhaps he simply has a
broken/buggy
template?

Word doesn't add section breaks for *no* reason. (The reason

might be
obscure, but there will be one ... although it's not a problem

I've ever
encountered.) Whatever the cause, it has nothing to do with his

template.













Reply
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Table of Contents Ty Microsoft Word Help 2 October 19th 22 08:46 PM
Table AutoFormats vs. Table Styles confusion Tony Jollans Tables 5 March 6th 05 07:18 PM
Table of Contents Ty Microsoft Word Help 2 February 22nd 05 06:57 PM
Item in Table of Contents throw off numbering Robert McN Page Layout 4 January 27th 05 12:50 AM
table of contents in thesis SSL New Users 1 January 9th 05 10:56 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:24 AM.

Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 Microsoft Office Word Forum - WordBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Microsoft Word"