[geotso[_2_]]

how much system memory Word preserves for Office Clipboard?

I'm asking because I have the following problem:
When I try to add some items to Office Clipboard, after the 4th-5th item I
get the message "Item not colected. Delete items to increase available
space". However, when I copy an item outside the Word (eg Photoshop) the item
is added in Office Clipboard without that message.

(RAM 2GB
OS win7.7100 RC 32-bit
Office 2007 Pro)
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[Jay Freedman]

On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 08:43:01 -0800, geotso
wrote:

how much system memory Word preserves for Office Clipboard?

I'm asking because I have the following problem:
When I try to add some items to Office Clipboard, after the 4th-5th item I
get the message "Item not colected. Delete items to increase available
space". However, when I copy an item outside the Word (eg Photoshop) the item
is added in Office Clipboard without that message.

(RAM 2GB
OS win7.7100 RC 32-bit
Office 2007 Pro)

The Office clipboard is not the same as the Windows clipboard. I may
be mistaken in this, but I don't think any program outside the Office
suite has access to the Office clipboard, only the Windows clipboard.
So saying that PhotoShop can add things to the (Windows) clipboard
doesn't prove anything.

I haven't found any reliable statement about the Office clipboard's
capacity, only an unsubstantiated claim that it's 1/16 of the
installed RAM.

It may be worth going to Office button Word Options Resources and
clicking the Diagnose button, or going to Control Panel Programs &
Features Microsoft Office Professional 2007 Change and doing a
Repair.

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Jay Freedman
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[Dave Symes]

In article ,
Jay Freedman wrote:
[Snippy]

The Office clipboard is not the same as the Windows clipboard. I may
be mistaken in this, but I don't think any program outside the Office
suite has access to the Office clipboard, only the Windows clipboard.
So saying that PhotoShop can add things to the (Windows) clipboard
doesn't prove anything.

I'm now confused.
Could you please explain how they are different as I can be copying and
pasting material within Word, but then I can also paste that material in
an outside application like a text editor, or even another word processor?

Thanks
Dave

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Dave Triffid

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Only one of the items in the Office Clipboard is the one on the Windows
Clipboard. You can use Copy and Paste in any Windows application, but only
for the content of the Windows Clipboard. If you copy from another
application, what you copied will presumably appear as the first (or most
recent) item on the Office Clipboard (since I've never used the Office
Clipboard, I'm having to be a bit vague here).

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Dave Symes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Jay Freedman wrote:
[Snippy]

The Office clipboard is not the same as the Windows clipboard. I may
be mistaken in this, but I don't think any program outside the Office
suite has access to the Office clipboard, only the Windows clipboard.
So saying that PhotoShop can add things to the (Windows) clipboard
doesn't prove anything.

I'm now confused.
Could you please explain how they are different as I can be copying and
pasting material within Word, but then I can also paste that material in
an outside application like a text editor, or even another word processor?

Thanks
Dave

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Dave Triffid

[Dave Symes]

In article ,
Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Only one of the items in the Office Clipboard is the one on the Windows
Clipboard. You can use Copy and Paste in any Windows application, but
only for the content of the Windows Clipboard. If you copy from another
application, what you copied will presumably appear as the first (or
most recent) item on the Office Clipboard (since I've never used the
Office Clipboard, I'm having to be a bit vague here).

[Snippy]

Aha! I understand...
Thanks
Dave

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Dave Triffid

[geotso[_2_]]

The Office clipboard is not the same as the Windows clipboard. I may
be mistaken in this, but I don't think any program outside the Office
suite has access to the Office clipboard, only the Windows clipboard.

I know. Windows get the image copied in Photoshop and put it in their
Clipboard. At that moment, Word, that is still open, sees the new item and
adds it in its Clipboard.

So saying that PhotoShop can add things to the (Windows) clipboard
doesn't prove anything.

Theoretically speaking it certainly proves one thing:
The same image, is smaller in bytes when I copy it in Photoshop, than in
Word. That's why, when I copy the image in Photoshop, it "fits" in Office
Clipboard, while the Word copy doesn't.

I haven't found any reliable statement about the Office clipboard's
capacity, only an unsubstantiated claim that it's 1/16 of the
installed RAM.

So, Office clipboard does have a limit. If there is a Word developer among
us (in the discussion group), he could probably clarify how much the real
limit is.

It may be worth going to Office button Word Options Resources and
clicking the Diagnose button, or going to Control Panel Programs &
Features Microsoft Office Professional 2007 Change and doing a
Repair.

May be I wasn't clear enough at first place. I'm not looking for a repair.
I found out that Office clipboard has a limit, and that's okay. I'm just
wondering how much that limit is. (I could live with that 1/16, but it could
be better if I knew the real amount. It has to do with the way I want to
learn things)

Thanks Jay...

[Tony Jollans]

See http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ex...548991033.aspx (expand the
second item). Assuming you have more than 64M of RAM, the office clipboard
can hold up to 8M.

Items copied to the Windows clipboard, and thence to the Office clipboard,
are potentially in several different formats but, if the copying application
remains open, those 'formats', especially for large items, may simply be
pointers to that application to pass the data when requested for pasting. It
is quite possible that content from a Word document (perhaps in HTML format)
takes considerably more space than a pointer to a bitmap in Photoshop.
Determining what will, or will not, fit on the (office) clipboard, is not an
easy matter.

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Enjoy,
Tony

www.WordArticles.com

"geotso" wrote in message
...

The Office clipboard is not the same as the Windows clipboard. I may
be mistaken in this, but I don't think any program outside the Office
suite has access to the Office clipboard, only the Windows clipboard.

I know. Windows get the image copied in Photoshop and put it in their
Clipboard. At that moment, Word, that is still open, sees the new item and
adds it in its Clipboard.

So saying that PhotoShop can add things to the (Windows) clipboard
doesn't prove anything.

Theoretically speaking it certainly proves one thing:
The same image, is smaller in bytes when I copy it in Photoshop, than in
Word. That's why, when I copy the image in Photoshop, it "fits" in Office
Clipboard, while the Word copy doesn't.

I haven't found any reliable statement about the Office clipboard's
capacity, only an unsubstantiated claim that it's 1/16 of the
installed RAM.

So, Office clipboard does have a limit. If there is a Word developer among
us (in the discussion group), he could probably clarify how much the real
limit is.

It may be worth going to Office button Word Options Resources and
clicking the Diagnose button, or going to Control Panel Programs &
Features Microsoft Office Professional 2007 Change and doing a
Repair.

May be I wasn't clear enough at first place. I'm not looking for a
repair.
I found out that Office clipboard has a limit, and that's okay. I'm just
wondering how much that limit is. (I could live with that 1/16, but it
could
be better if I knew the real amount. It has to do with the way I want to
learn things)

Thanks Jay...