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TOC font won't cooperate
I did a search, and many people have trouble controlling the TOC font. None
of the discussions applied to my situation, that I could see. I have every TOC style defined as Arial. There's no direct formatting. But whatever I do, the TOC is back in Times Roman whenever I regenerate. Times Roman rises from the dead no matter how many times I kill it, so I need to drive a stake through its heart. (Sorry, Word "features" do this to me.) I've tried both checking and unchecking "Automatically update", in case that was related, but it had no effect. Can someone suggest where the Times Roman spec is coming from? -- Christopher Brewster Lockheed Martin, Eagan MN Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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Presumably you have Word 2003? TNR is the built in default font that Word
uses when it doesn't know which font it should be using. To stop this happening, my workaround is to create a base style for a new template making sure it is based on No Style. Then most other styles in the template are then based on the template base style. Make sure that TOC1 style is based on the Base Style but TOCs 2, 3, 4, etc are based on TOC1 style. Make sure that the styles are all saved with the correct template though. -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "christophercbrewster via OfficeKB.com" u3143@uwe wrote in message news:975950058b466@uwe... I did a search, and many people have trouble controlling the TOC font. None of the discussions applied to my situation, that I could see. I have every TOC style defined as Arial. There's no direct formatting. But whatever I do, the TOC is back in Times Roman whenever I regenerate. Times Roman rises from the dead no matter how many times I kill it, so I need to drive a stake through its heart. (Sorry, Word "features" do this to me.) I've tried both checking and unchecking "Automatically update", in case that was related, but it had no effect. Can someone suggest where the Times Roman spec is coming from? -- Christopher Brewster Lockheed Martin, Eagan MN Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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Have you checked to see whether the style itself is changing when this
happens? If it is, check Tools | Templates and Add-ins to make sure the "Automatically update document styles" isn't checked. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "christophercbrewster via OfficeKB.com" u3143@uwe wrote in message news:975950058b466@uwe... I did a search, and many people have trouble controlling the TOC font. None of the discussions applied to my situation, that I could see. I have every TOC style defined as Arial. There's no direct formatting. But whatever I do, the TOC is back in Times Roman whenever I regenerate. Times Roman rises from the dead no matter how many times I kill it, so I need to drive a stake through its heart. (Sorry, Word "features" do this to me.) I've tried both checking and unchecking "Automatically update", in case that was related, but it had no effect. Can someone suggest where the Times Roman spec is coming from? -- Christopher Brewster Lockheed Martin, Eagan MN Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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Thanks for these tips, which I'll try. Just a comment: Word has no reason -
not- to know which font to use, since each TOC style specifies the font. Anyway, I have a question about your suggestion: you mention a new template, but I've been working on this template for a while. Is there a way to get the result you describe with an existing template? Terry Farrell wrote: Presumably you have Word 2003? TNR is the built in default font that Word uses when it doesn't know which font it should be using. To stop this happening, my workaround is to create a base style for a new template making sure it is based on No Style. Then most other styles in the template are then based on the template base style. Make sure that TOC1 style is based on the Base Style but TOCs 2, 3, 4, etc are based on TOC1 style. Make sure that the styles are all saved with the correct template though. I did a search, and many people have trouble controlling the TOC font. None [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] it had no effect. Can someone suggest where the Times Roman spec is coming from? -- Christopher Brewster Lockheed Martin, Eagan MN Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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If you limit the Style Task Pane to display ONLY those styles that are in
use in the template, you can then create your new template base style ands edit the others to be based on that style. So you don't have to change every style in Word, just those in use in that template. Terry "christophercbrewster via OfficeKB.com" u3143@uwe wrote in message news:975b0301694ad@uwe... Thanks for these tips, which I'll try. Just a comment: Word has no reason - not- to know which font to use, since each TOC style specifies the font. Anyway, I have a question about your suggestion: you mention a new template, but I've been working on this template for a while. Is there a way to get the result you describe with an existing template? Terry Farrell wrote: Presumably you have Word 2003? TNR is the built in default font that Word uses when it doesn't know which font it should be using. To stop this happening, my workaround is to create a base style for a new template making sure it is based on No Style. Then most other styles in the template are then based on the template base style. Make sure that TOC1 style is based on the Base Style but TOCs 2, 3, 4, etc are based on TOC1 style. Make sure that the styles are all saved with the correct template though. I did a search, and many people have trouble controlling the TOC font. None [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] it had no effect. Can someone suggest where the Times Roman spec is coming from? -- Christopher Brewster Lockheed Martin, Eagan MN Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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Another question about the base style. Do I create a new style called Base
Style, or is it a built-in thing that I access? To make the other styles inherit from this base, do I make it the top of a hierarchy, so that all the styles ultimately derive from it? I can't find any documentation about the concept. (Yet another MICROSOFT MYSTERY!) Terry Farrell wrote: If you limit the Style Task Pane to display ONLY those styles that are in use in the template, you can then create your new template base style ands edit the others to be based on that style. So you don't have to change every style in Word, just those in use in that template. Terry Thanks for these tips, which I'll try. Just a comment: Word has no reason - [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] coming from? -- Christopher Brewster Lockheed Martin, Eagan MN Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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I have a further question about the base style concept. My template has
"Normal", and the other styles are almost based on that. Is that all you mean by a base style? Why do my TOC styles not override the font in Normal? I tried basing the TOC styles on no style, didn't help. I made a new style called TOC base, and based them on that, didn't help. Or is the base style something deeper than the way Normal is used? christophercbrewster wrote: Another question about the base style. Do I create a new style called Base Style, or is it a built-in thing that I access? To make the other styles inherit from this base, do I make it the top of a hierarchy, so that all the styles ultimately derive from it? I can't find any documentation about the concept. (Yet another MICROSOFT MYSTERY!) If you limit the Style Task Pane to display ONLY those styles that are in use in the template, you can then create your new template base style ands [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] coming from? -- Christopher Brewster Lockheed Martin, Eagan MN Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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You create a base style the same as any other style and make sure to base it
on No Style. If you don't know how to create a style, then read Style in Microsoft Word here... http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/ Terry "christophercbrewster via OfficeKB.com" u3143@uwe wrote in message news:97761ccdd8761@uwe... I have a further question about the base style concept. My template has "Normal", and the other styles are almost based on that. Is that all you mean by a base style? Why do my TOC styles not override the font in Normal? I tried basing the TOC styles on no style, didn't help. I made a new style called TOC base, and based them on that, didn't help. Or is the base style something deeper than the way Normal is used? christophercbrewster wrote: Another question about the base style. Do I create a new style called Base Style, or is it a built-in thing that I access? To make the other styles inherit from this base, do I make it the top of a hierarchy, so that all the styles ultimately derive from it? I can't find any documentation about the concept. (Yet another MICROSOFT MYSTERY!) If you limit the Style Task Pane to display ONLY those styles that are in use in the template, you can then create your new template base style ands [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] coming from? -- Christopher Brewster Lockheed Martin, Eagan MN Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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OMG, I found the problem: it's because the Hyperlink style was being applied
to my TOC. This is where the Times Roman spec was. Each entry had both a TOC style and Hyperlink, and it didn't occur to me that Hyperlink was imposing its own font. (Further mystery: why didn't Hyperlink change the font SIZE? It only overrode the Ariel spec.) Thanks for your suggestions. Terry Farrell wrote: You create a base style the same as any other style and make sure to base it on No Style. If you don't know how to create a style, then read Style in Microsoft Word here... http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/ Terry I have a further question about the base style concept. My template has "Normal", and the other styles are almost based on that. Is that all you [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] coming from? -- Christopher Brewster Lockheed Martin, Eagan MN Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...neral/200906/1 |
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The Hyperlink style is by default defined as Default Paragraph Font +
Underline, Font Color: Blue. At some point, TNR must have been added to the style definition. What makes this very hard to troubleshoot is that the Hyperlink formatting is suppressed in TOC and REF fields even when they are hyperlinked. This is pretty obvious when you click in a TOC entry, however, since Hyperlink is displayed in the Style box (making it that much harder to actually get to and modify the underlying TOC 1, TOC 2, etc., style). If you had created a TOC that did not include the \h switch (that is, the entries would not be hyperlinked, though the page numbers still would be), you would not have been seeing these issues! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "christophercbrewster via OfficeKB.com" u3143@uwe wrote in message news:97a3daa3bedea@uwe... OMG, I found the problem: it's because the Hyperlink style was being applied to my TOC. This is where the Times Roman spec was. Each entry had both a TOC style and Hyperlink, and it didn't occur to me that Hyperlink was imposing its own font. (Further mystery: why didn't Hyperlink change the font SIZE? It only overrode the Ariel spec.) Thanks for your suggestions. Terry Farrell wrote: You create a base style the same as any other style and make sure to base it on No Style. If you don't know how to create a style, then read Style in Microsoft Word here... http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/ Terry I have a further question about the base style concept. My template has "Normal", and the other styles are almost based on that. Is that all you [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] coming from? -- Christopher Brewster Lockheed Martin, Eagan MN Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...neral/200906/1 |
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