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Keep with next, Widow/orphan, etc all fail
I am working on a 40 page document. Formatting is done consistently through
paragraph formats. I use no hard page breaks, only "section breaks to odd page" at start of new chapters. Midway through this work headings started appearing at the bottom of pages instead of keeping with following paragraph, widows and orphans turned up in body text, and page breaks appeared in paragraphs, despite the fact that my paragraph style definitons explicitly say differently. All in all, it seems as if Word has completely disabled all the text flow options. This happens with all kinds of styles: heading, bullets, body text. It is possible that the problem first appeared when I reduced the page size substantially from A4 to roughly A5. I am aware that this can be interpreted as a collision of rules (ie Keep with next, etc). This is not so however. Paragraphs are generally short and Word has plenty of chances to get things right. I have tried all kinds of workarounds, such as redefining my paragraphs, rechecking the relevent boxes (widow/orphan, etc), reconnecting with my template file, etc. Nothing seems to work. Ideas? |
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Are you pressing Enter twice to create spacing around paragraphs? If
so, that's the cause of the problem, because each time you press Enter, you are in fact creating an additional paragraph. "Keep with next" applies to these empty paragraphs, and then it seems as if it doesn't work. Remove the empty paragraphs and then add some Spacing Before to text (or preferably to the style definitions, as appropriate). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "John Liungman" wrote in message ... I am working on a 40 page document. Formatting is done consistently through paragraph formats. I use no hard page breaks, only "section breaks to odd page" at start of new chapters. Midway through this work headings started appearing at the bottom of pages instead of keeping with following paragraph, widows and orphans turned up in body text, and page breaks appeared in paragraphs, despite the fact that my paragraph style definitons explicitly say differently. All in all, it seems as if Word has completely disabled all the text flow options. This happens with all kinds of styles: heading, bullets, body text. It is possible that the problem first appeared when I reduced the page size substantially from A4 to roughly A5. I am aware that this can be interpreted as a collision of rules (ie Keep with next, etc). This is not so however. Paragraphs are generally short and Word has plenty of chances to get things right. I have tried all kinds of workarounds, such as redefining my paragraphs, rechecking the relevent boxes (widow/orphan, etc), reconnecting with my template file, etc. Nothing seems to work. Ideas? |
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Keep with next, Widow/orphan, etc all fail
Thanks Stefan, but nope, that´s not is. I´m meticulous about avoiding extra
line breaks. Other suggestions? Regards, John "Stefan Blom" wrote: Are you pressing Enter twice to create spacing around paragraphs? If so, that's the cause of the problem, because each time you press Enter, you are in fact creating an additional paragraph. "Keep with next" applies to these empty paragraphs, and then it seems as if it doesn't work. Remove the empty paragraphs and then add some Spacing Before to text (or preferably to the style definitions, as appropriate). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "John Liungman" wrote in message ... I am working on a 40 page document. Formatting is done consistently through paragraph formats. I use no hard page breaks, only "section breaks to odd page" at start of new chapters. Midway through this work headings started appearing at the bottom of pages instead of keeping with following paragraph, widows and orphans turned up in body text, and page breaks appeared in paragraphs, despite the fact that my paragraph style definitons explicitly say differently. All in all, it seems as if Word has completely disabled all the text flow options. This happens with all kinds of styles: heading, bullets, body text. It is possible that the problem first appeared when I reduced the page size substantially from A4 to roughly A5. I am aware that this can be interpreted as a collision of rules (ie Keep with next, etc). This is not so however. Paragraphs are generally short and Word has plenty of chances to get things right. I have tried all kinds of workarounds, such as redefining my paragraphs, rechecking the relevent boxes (widow/orphan, etc), reconnecting with my template file, etc. Nothing seems to work. Ideas? |
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Keep with next, Widow/orphan, etc all fail
Hi Suzanne, and thanks for the link to a very interesting article. I tried a
few of the tricks - save as web page and reopen, and copy a paragraph without the paragraph marker. No luck I´m afraid. An interesting piece of information for anyone who might harbour a theory is that the document, when mailed to a colleague, turns out fine on his computer. Also, my machine is a week old, high performance, with little installed software except Office and an FTP client. Come to think of it, the document was actually created on my other machine, then saved to the network and downloaded to the new machine. Could something have happened in that process? Oh, by the way, I use Word 2003 SP2. Of course, I can solve the problem with a bunch of hard page breaks, but being orthodox, that´s exactly what I want to avoid Thanks for all the ideas, keep it up! John "Suzanne S. Barnhill" skrev: Assuming that the issue is not *too many* KWN paragraphs, I would suggest that this sort of problem can indicate document corruption. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "John Liungman" John wrote in message ... I am working on a 40 page document. Formatting is done consistently through paragraph formats. I use no hard page breaks, only "section breaks to odd page" at start of new chapters. Midway through this work headings started appearing at the bottom of pages instead of keeping with following paragraph, widows and orphans turned up in body text, and page breaks appeared in paragraphs, despite the fact that my paragraph style definitons explicitly say differently. All in all, it seems as if Word has completely disabled all the text flow options. This happens with all kinds of styles: heading, bullets, body text. It is possible that the problem first appeared when I reduced the page size substantially from A4 to roughly A5. I am aware that this can be interpreted as a collision of rules (ie Keep with next, etc). This is not so however. Paragraphs are generally short and Word has plenty of chances to get things right. I have tried all kinds of workarounds, such as redefining my paragraphs, rechecking the relevent boxes (widow/orphan, etc), reconnecting with my template file, etc. Nothing seems to work. Ideas? |
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