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JoshMandel
 
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Default First page header/footer appearing on second page as well!

I'm trying to create a document in which the first page is vertically
centered and has no header/footer, and from the second page onward, is
vertically top-justified and has a header/footer.

I'm doing a page setup for the first page that calls for "different
header/footer" and vertical centering. Then I'm doing a Section Break (NEXT
PAGE) and top-justifying it vertically. But then, when I look at my
header/footer, both the first and second pages contain a "first-page header"
and "first-page footer." The first-page header/footer are marked "section 1"
and the second-page header/footer are marked "First-page header -section 2-."
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!!
Josh
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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The section break is what you're doing wrong. You don't need the section
break when you use "Different first page." When you insert a section break,
then the next page becomes the first page of a new section, so of course it
gets the First Page/Header Footer as well. For more, see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm

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"JoshMandel" wrote in message
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I'm trying to create a document in which the first page is vertically
centered and has no header/footer, and from the second page onward, is
vertically top-justified and has a header/footer.

I'm doing a page setup for the first page that calls for "different
header/footer" and vertical centering. Then I'm doing a Section Break

(NEXT
PAGE) and top-justifying it vertically. But then, when I look at my
header/footer, both the first and second pages contain a "first-page

header"
and "first-page footer." The first-page header/footer are marked "section

1"
and the second-page header/footer are marked "First-page header -section

2-."
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!!
Josh


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Hi, Susan,

Many thanks for the response!

Here's the problem. If I create the first page (vertical alignment=center,
different first page), type the first page text, and put in a simple hard
page break to create the second page, and then change this second page to
vertical alignment=top, a third page is suddenly created. The third page has
the correct attributes, but the second page has the first-page header.
Obviously I'm still doing something wrong.

Many thanks for any additional clarification!

--Josh

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The section break is what you're doing wrong. You don't need the section
break when you use "Different first page." When you insert a section break,
then the next page becomes the first page of a new section, so of course it
gets the First Page/Header Footer as well. For more, see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"JoshMandel" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to create a document in which the first page is vertically
centered and has no header/footer, and from the second page onward, is
vertically top-justified and has a header/footer.

I'm doing a page setup for the first page that calls for "different
header/footer" and vertical centering. Then I'm doing a Section Break

(NEXT
PAGE) and top-justifying it vertically. But then, when I look at my
header/footer, both the first and second pages contain a "first-page

header"
and "first-page footer." The first-page header/footer are marked "section

1"
and the second-page header/footer are marked "First-page header -section

2-."
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!!
Josh



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Daiya Mitchell
 
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You can't apply Vertical Alignment to a page, only to a section. So Word is
probably inserting a Next Page Section Break for you (Normal View would show
this automatically, Print Layout view won't).

For your original request--type the page 1 text, insert a Next Page Section
Break. Set Vertical Alignment for Section 1 only. Pages 2 onward should be
Section 2, and since you don't say the header/footer is changing in Section
2, you don't need a first page header anywhere, so that all of Section 2
will have the same h/f. You do need to unlink the section 2 headers from
section 1, so that section 1 will have blank h/f. But you automatically can
get a different first page by unlinking multiple sections--the different
first page setting only applies *within* a section.

Separate alternative approach: Only one section, use a blank First Page
Header for the first page, and vertically align the text on the first page
manually, following it up with a manual page break to start the second page.
There are various approaches to manual vertical alignment, but Space Before
via Format | Paragraph is better than hitting enter multiple times.

General principles are explained, with screenshots, in this articles:
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm

PS. It's Suzanne.

On 7/25/05 9:14 AM, "JoshMandel" wrote:

Hi, Susan,

Many thanks for the response!

Here's the problem. If I create the first page (vertical alignment=center,
different first page), type the first page text, and put in a simple hard
page break to create the second page, and then change this second page to
vertical alignment=top, a third page is suddenly created. The third page has
the correct attributes, but the second page has the first-page header.
Obviously I'm still doing something wrong.

Many thanks for any additional clarification!

--Josh

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The section break is what you're doing wrong. You don't need the section
break when you use "Different first page." When you insert a section break,
then the next page becomes the first page of a new section, so of course it
gets the First Page/Header Footer as well. For more, see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"JoshMandel" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to create a document in which the first page is vertically
centered and has no header/footer, and from the second page onward, is
vertically top-justified and has a header/footer.

I'm doing a page setup for the first page that calls for "different
header/footer" and vertical centering. Then I'm doing a Section Break

(NEXT
PAGE) and top-justifying it vertically. But then, when I look at my
header/footer, both the first and second pages contain a "first-page

header"
and "first-page footer." The first-page header/footer are marked "section

1"
and the second-page header/footer are marked "First-page header -section

2-."
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!!
Josh




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Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/
MacWord Tips: http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/
What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

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Thank you kindly, Daiya...I'll give it a try. I appreciate all the
clarification.

And to Suzanne, wherever you a I apologize for mangling your name!

Best regards,
Josh

"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

You can't apply Vertical Alignment to a page, only to a section. So Word is
probably inserting a Next Page Section Break for you (Normal View would show
this automatically, Print Layout view won't).

For your original request--type the page 1 text, insert a Next Page Section
Break. Set Vertical Alignment for Section 1 only. Pages 2 onward should be
Section 2, and since you don't say the header/footer is changing in Section
2, you don't need a first page header anywhere, so that all of Section 2
will have the same h/f. You do need to unlink the section 2 headers from
section 1, so that section 1 will have blank h/f. But you automatically can
get a different first page by unlinking multiple sections--the different
first page setting only applies *within* a section.

Separate alternative approach: Only one section, use a blank First Page
Header for the first page, and vertically align the text on the first page
manually, following it up with a manual page break to start the second page.
There are various approaches to manual vertical alignment, but Space Before
via Format | Paragraph is better than hitting enter multiple times.

General principles are explained, with screenshots, in this articles:
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm

PS. It's Suzanne.

On 7/25/05 9:14 AM, "JoshMandel" wrote:

Hi, Susan,

Many thanks for the response!

Here's the problem. If I create the first page (vertical alignment=center,
different first page), type the first page text, and put in a simple hard
page break to create the second page, and then change this second page to
vertical alignment=top, a third page is suddenly created. The third page has
the correct attributes, but the second page has the first-page header.
Obviously I'm still doing something wrong.

Many thanks for any additional clarification!

--Josh

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The section break is what you're doing wrong. You don't need the section
break when you use "Different first page." When you insert a section break,
then the next page becomes the first page of a new section, so of course it
gets the First Page/Header Footer as well. For more, see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"JoshMandel" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to create a document in which the first page is vertically
centered and has no header/footer, and from the second page onward, is
vertically top-justified and has a header/footer.

I'm doing a page setup for the first page that calls for "different
header/footer" and vertical centering. Then I'm doing a Section Break
(NEXT
PAGE) and top-justifying it vertically. But then, when I look at my
header/footer, both the first and second pages contain a "first-page
header"
and "first-page footer." The first-page header/footer are marked "section
1"
and the second-page header/footer are marked "First-page header -section
2-."
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!!
Josh



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Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word
Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/
MacWord Tips: http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/
What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/


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