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Cloned a drive now OGA complains
Maybe slightly off topic here, but how come a perfectly legal copy of Office
XP is now not genuine when all I did was clone the drive to another bigger one? Seems a bit harsh??? Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ |
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You need to install it, not copy it.
-- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Brian Gaff" wrote in message m... Maybe slightly off topic here, but how come a perfectly legal copy of Office XP is now not genuine when all I did was clone the drive to another bigger one? Seems a bit harsh??? Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ |
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I believe that Office works in a similar way to an OS in that minor changes
to the system are accumulative. So changing memory doesn't affect registration, but if you change memory and the network card within a given period (6 months, I believe), then it is necessary to reactivate. If you change a major component such as the motherboard or hard drive, it will trigger it anyway. Terry Farrell "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... You need to install it, not copy it. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Brian Gaff" wrote in message m... Maybe slightly off topic here, but how come a perfectly legal copy of Office XP is now not genuine when all I did was clone the drive to another bigger one? Seems a bit harsh??? Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ |
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The validation system is aware of hardware changes - you should however be
able to re-activate the product (if necessary by telephone). -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Brian Gaff wrote: Maybe slightly off topic here, but how come a perfectly legal copy of Office XP is now not genuine when all I did was clone the drive to another bigger one? Seems a bit harsh??? Brian |
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He did mention a hard drive. I assume he means internal and not something
portable. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... I believe that Office works in a similar way to an OS in that minor changes to the system are accumulative. So changing memory doesn't affect registration, but if you change memory and the network card within a given period (6 months, I believe), then it is necessary to reactivate. If you change a major component such as the motherboard or hard drive, it will trigger it anyway. Terry Farrell "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... You need to install it, not copy it. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Brian Gaff" wrote in message m... Maybe slightly off topic here, but how come a perfectly legal copy of Office XP is now not genuine when all I did was clone the drive to another bigger one? Seems a bit harsh??? Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ |
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JoAnn Paules wrote: You need to install it, not copy it. So can you wonder why so many are running away to Linux...? Can you wonder why those on the other side are so foul mouthed about this side? Dave -- Dave Triffid |
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Back in the old days, you could copy programs. It was very easy to make
bootleg copies of software. I can't blame software manufacturers for stopping that practice. And what's the big deal about reinstalling software? If you have the disks (or at least your backup disk), it's a few extra minutes to do it right. Probably not any harder than "cloning" a new drive. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Dave Symes" wrote in message ... In article , JoAnn Paules wrote: You need to install it, not copy it. So can you wonder why so many are running away to Linux...? Can you wonder why those on the other side are so foul mouthed about this side? Dave -- Dave Triffid |
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On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 14:36:26 -0400, "JoAnn Paules"
wrote: Back in the old days, you could copy programs. It was very easy to make bootleg copies of software. I can't blame software manufacturers for stopping that practice. Despite draconian measures by some companies, if bootlegging is the way you want to go, you can still do it and with some ease. The only folks that really suffer, are those of us daft enough to pay for legit software. And what's the big deal about reinstalling software? If you have the disks or at least your backup disk), it's a few extra minutes to do it right. Probably not any harder than "cloning" a new drive. I'd like to see anyone, who's not doing it by the clone method, fully reinstall MS-Windows in less than "hours". The additional problem, particularly since the release of Vista, the illegitimates in most cases don't supply a Windows install disk. Some of them do put install files in a secret partition on the HD, but if your HD goes .... Up what then. Granted one or two suppliers, even have software that allows you to produce your own Recovery disk, but it's a recovery disk, not a Win install disk. Many more companies don't. Gawd knows what they'll be doing to Win 7... (Really Vista SP3) You'll probably have to phone MS to ask for permission to switch your own computer on. Dave |
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yes, I'm sure they would not mind charging you $99 or more to do that ... or,
rather, probably tell you that you can't do that since it's licensed to 1 computer. "Graham Mayor" wrote: The validation system is aware of hardware changes - you should however be able to re-activate the product (if necessary by telephone). -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Brian Gaff wrote: Maybe slightly off topic here, but how come a perfectly legal copy of Office XP is now not genuine when all I did was clone the drive to another bigger one? Seems a bit harsh??? Brian |
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Rubbish. If you have a genuine version and a hardware update causes OGA to
kick in, you can call MS on the number provided and they will give you an activation code over the phone and there is NO CHARGE. I have NEVER heard of anyone failing to get a reactivation key for a genuine version. Terry Farrell "jaws" wrote in message ... yes, I'm sure they would not mind charging you $99 or more to do that ... or, rather, probably tell you that you can't do that since it's licensed to 1 computer. "Graham Mayor" wrote: The validation system is aware of hardware changes - you should however be able to re-activate the product (if necessary by telephone). -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Brian Gaff wrote: Maybe slightly off topic here, but how come a perfectly legal copy of Office XP is now not genuine when all I did was clone the drive to another bigger one? Seems a bit harsh??? Brian |
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Hmm, but when I go to activate, it says its already activated.
Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... I believe that Office works in a similar way to an OS in that minor changes to the system are accumulative. So changing memory doesn't affect registration, but if you change memory and the network card within a given period (6 months, I believe), then it is necessary to reactivate. If you change a major component such as the motherboard or hard drive, it will trigger it anyway. Terry Farrell "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... You need to install it, not copy it. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Brian Gaff" wrote in message m... Maybe slightly off topic here, but how come a perfectly legal copy of Office XP is now not genuine when all I did was clone the drive to another bigger one? Seems a bit harsh??? Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ |
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Yes, internal. Its an old computer with Office XP on it.
Incidentally, tried it on some old clunkers with the same word on it today. It seems that if you do stuff like ram, video cards and as you say, big ones like motherboards it shoves up the screen straight away since the last update in oga. I suppose I could be cynical and suggest its that they want you to buy their latest version. In my mind, it will just drive people to Open Office and to hack the software. Counter productive. Most people would be honest if given a fair chance, not some marketing driven idea of genuine. Brian PS I can only use one machine at a time, and there is only me here! -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... He did mention a hard drive. I assume he means internal and not something portable. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... I believe that Office works in a similar way to an OS in that minor changes to the system are accumulative. So changing memory doesn't affect registration, but if you change memory and the network card within a given period (6 months, I believe), then it is necessary to reactivate. If you change a major component such as the motherboard or hard drive, it will trigger it anyway. Terry Farrell "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... You need to install it, not copy it. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Brian Gaff" wrote in message m... Maybe slightly off topic here, but how come a perfectly legal copy of Office XP is now not genuine when all I did was clone the drive to another bigger one? Seems a bit harsh??? Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ |
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If you are blind as I am its more than a bloody few minutes matey!
Its not an out of the box installation, it has to be configured to be screenreader usable. Also, of course you have alll tose ruddy updates that keep on trying to make Outlook the default email client every bloody time to download... Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... Back in the old days, you could copy programs. It was very easy to make bootleg copies of software. I can't blame software manufacturers for stopping that practice. And what's the big deal about reinstalling software? If you have the disks (or at least your backup disk), it's a few extra minutes to do it right. Probably not any harder than "cloning" a new drive. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "Dave Symes" wrote in message ... In article , JoAnn Paules wrote: You need to install it, not copy it. So can you wonder why so many are running away to Linux...? Can you wonder why those on the other side are so foul mouthed about this side? Dave -- Dave Triffid |
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How far back do they allow this? I was told that you would have problems if
it was not a current version? Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... Rubbish. If you have a genuine version and a hardware update causes OGA to kick in, you can call MS on the number provided and they will give you an activation code over the phone and there is NO CHARGE. I have NEVER heard of anyone failing to get a reactivation key for a genuine version. Terry Farrell "jaws" wrote in message ... yes, I'm sure they would not mind charging you $99 or more to do that ... or, rather, probably tell you that you can't do that since it's licensed to 1 computer. "Graham Mayor" wrote: The validation system is aware of hardware changes - you should however be able to re-activate the product (if necessary by telephone). -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Brian Gaff wrote: Maybe slightly off topic here, but how come a perfectly legal copy of Office XP is now not genuine when all I did was clone the drive to another bigger one? Seems a bit harsh??? Brian |
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I don't know. All I can add is that I have never had any problem
reactivating on the couple of occasions that I have had to telephone MS (in the UK). Nor have I met anyone that has been refused reactivation. I cannot recall anyone reporting it in these newsgroups either. Terry Farrell "Brian Gaff" wrote in message om... How far back do they allow this? I was told that you would have problems if it was not a current version? Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... Rubbish. If you have a genuine version and a hardware update causes OGA to kick in, you can call MS on the number provided and they will give you an activation code over the phone and there is NO CHARGE. I have NEVER heard of anyone failing to get a reactivation key for a genuine version. Terry Farrell "jaws" wrote in message ... yes, I'm sure they would not mind charging you $99 or more to do that ... or, rather, probably tell you that you can't do that since it's licensed to 1 computer. "Graham Mayor" wrote: The validation system is aware of hardware changes - you should however be able to re-activate the product (if necessary by telephone). -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Brian Gaff wrote: Maybe slightly off topic here, but how come a perfectly legal copy of Office XP is now not genuine when all I did was clone the drive to another bigger one? Seems a bit harsh??? Brian |
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