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Slow opening doc: "Word is finishing analyzing your document" mess
This issue is ridiculous. I have posted the same question to a number of newsgroups and forums. No one seems to know why this message appears or what it is doing. The response to this post doesn't seem to work either as out office does not have the office plug-in to NAV installed. This is a truly frustrating and aggravating issue that I wish Microsoft would address in their Knowledge Base. Larraine and I can not be the only two people in the world that see this message and are frustrated by the delays and crashes. I have tried all of the same methods as Larraine with the same result, that is no result. Does anyone know what is going on, or is it a cosmic joke that only Larraine and I are duped by? garfield-n-odie Wrote: If some version of Norton/Symantec Antivirus is installed on your computer, try turning off the Office Plugin that comes with it. See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=329820 "How to use Office programs with the Norton AntiVirus Office plug-in" for more info. "Larraine W." wrote: - Since moving to Office 2003, when opening some large Word docs, message on status bar reads:"Word is finishing analyzing your document" then a progress bar and then "Press ESC to cancel." Hourglass remains until analyzing finished, and for 100+ page docs can take several minutes. Pressing ESC mutiple times sometimes stops the analyzing, but not always, especially for very large docment. Have tried turning off spelling and grammar checking, smart tags, allow fast saves is off, and other options that might cause "analyzing" on opening. We have LOTS of very large docs (depositions from litigation matters) and some of them actually freeze the application and we can't get them open. All suggestions are welcomed- -- dnharris14 |
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Actually, since posting this question, we found a workaround way to deal with
it. We use Hummingbird DM for a doc mgmt system, and the following steps refer to "DM". Maybe this will help you, dnharris. 1) Export the DM doc to My Documents 2) In My Documents, right click on the exported file and choose Open with Wordpad (not Notepad) 3) When open in Wordpad: File Save As choose type of "Unicode text document". 4) Right click on that .txt version of the file and choose Open with Microsoft Word. You will get a conversion dialog with Encoded text already selected. Click OK. 5) If you get a File Conversion dialog asking which encoding to use to make your document readable, it should already have Unicode selected, so click OK. 6) Once opened in Word, to change any little blank boxes into dashes, which is what they should be, use Edit/Replace. Select and copy ONE of the boxes, click Edit Replace and in the Find What field press Ctrl+V to paste what you copied (it will just show as a dash). In the Replace With field put a hypen; then click Replace All. 7) Save as a Word doc: File Save As. Cancel the DM dialog and in the Save as type filed choose "Word document.doc" 8) To import this as a second version of your DM doc, right click on the DM doc, choose Versions & Attachments. Right click on the version 1 of your doc and choose Import Version from File. Complete Comments as necessary. "dnharris14" wrote: This issue is ridiculous. I have posted the same question to a number of newsgroups and forums. No one seems to know why this message appears or what it is doing. The response to this post doesn't seem to work either as out office does not have the office plug-in to NAV installed. This is a truly frustrating and aggravating issue that I wish Microsoft would address in their Knowledge Base. Larraine and I can not be the only two people in the world that see this message and are frustrated by the delays and crashes. I have tried all of the same methods as Larraine with the same result, that is no result. Does anyone know what is going on, or is it a cosmic joke that only Larraine and I are duped by? garfield-n-odie Wrote: If some version of Norton/Symantec Antivirus is installed on your computer, try turning off the Office Plugin that comes with it. See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=329820 "How to use Office programs with the Norton AntiVirus Office plug-in" for more info. "Larraine W." wrote: - Since moving to Office 2003, when opening some large Word docs, message on status bar reads:"Word is finishing analyzing your document" then a progress bar and then "Press ESC to cancel." Hourglass remains until analyzing finished, and for 100+ page docs can take several minutes. Pressing ESC mutiple times sometimes stops the analyzing, but not always, especially for very large docment. Have tried turning off spelling and grammar checking, smart tags, allow fast saves is off, and other options that might cause "analyzing" on opening. We have LOTS of very large docs (depositions from litigation matters) and some of them actually freeze the application and we can't get them open. All suggestions are welcomed- -- dnharris14 |
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Thank you LarraineW for the insight. I had never heard of Hummingbird. However, as an architectural spec writer I deal with hundreds of masters and at least 100 job specific documents for each project, and 4 or 5 projects going at once. I do not have the time to go through that procedure for every one of these documents. I just need thenm to open when I click on them. I really wish Microsoft woud just explain what it is and fix it somehow. Again thank you for your assistance. Larraine W Wrote: Actually, since posting this question, we found a workaround way to deal with it. We use Hummingbird DM for a doc mgmt system, and the following steps refer to "DM". Maybe this will help you, dnharris. 1) Export the DM doc to My Documents 2) In My Documents, right click on the exported file and choose Open with Wordpad (not Notepad) 3) When open in Wordpad: File Save As choose type of "Unicode text document". 4) Right click on that .txt version of the file and choose Open with Microsoft Word. You will get a conversion dialog with Encoded text already selected. Click OK. 5) If you get a File Conversion dialog asking which encoding to use to make your document readable, it should already have Unicode selected, so click OK. 6) Once opened in Word, to change any little blank boxes into dashes, which is what they should be, use Edit/Replace. Select and copy ONE of the boxes, click Edit Replace and in the Find What field press Ctrl+V to paste what you copied (it will just show as a dash). In the Replace With field put a hypen; then click Replace All. 7) Save as a Word doc: File Save As. Cancel the DM dialog and in the Save as type filed choose "Word document.doc" 8) To import this as a second version of your DM doc, right click on the DM doc, choose Versions & Attachments. Right click on the version 1 of your doc and choose Import Version from File. Complete Comments as necessary. "dnharris14" wrote: - This issue is ridiculous. I have posted the same question to a number of newsgroups and forums. No one seems to know why this message appears or what it is doing. The response to this post doesn't seem to work either as out office does not have the office plug-in to NAV installed. This is a truly frustrating and aggravating issue that I wish Microsoft would address in their Knowledge Base. Larraine and I can not be the only two people in the world that see this message and are frustrated by the delays and crashes. I have tried all of the same methods as Larraine with the same result, that is no result. Does anyone know what is going on, or is it a cosmic joke that only Larraine and I are duped by? garfield-n-odie Wrote:- If some version of Norton/Symantec Antivirus is installed on your computer, try turning off the Office Plugin that comes with it. See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=329820 "How to use Office programs with the Norton AntiVirus Office plug-in" for more info. "Larraine W." wrote: - Since moving to Office 2003, when opening some large Word docs, message on status bar reads:"Word is finishing analyzing your document" then a progress bar and then "Press ESC to cancel." Hourglass remains until analyzing finished, and for 100+ page docs can take several minutes. Pressing ESC mutiple times sometimes stops the analyzing, but not always, especially for very large docment. Have tried turning off spelling and grammar checking, smart tags, allow fast saves is off, and other options that might cause "analyzing" on opening. We have LOTS of very large docs (depositions from litigation matters) and some of them actually freeze the application and we can't get them open. All suggestions are welcomed-- -- dnharris14 - -- dnharris14 |
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I think no one has answered because no one is familiar with the problem. I
have encountered this message only once before (not personally, but in another question), and I can find nothing about it in the Microsoft Knowledge Base, which leads me to suspect that it is not coming from Word but from some add-in or document management system, such as that mentioned by the previous poster. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "dnharris14" wrote in message . .. Thank you LarraineW for the insight. I had never heard of Hummingbird. However, as an architectural spec writer I deal with hundreds of masters and at least 100 job specific documents for each project, and 4 or 5 projects going at once. I do not have the time to go through that procedure for every one of these documents. I just need thenm to open when I click on them. I really wish Microsoft woud just explain what it is and fix it somehow. Again thank you for your assistance. Larraine W Wrote: Actually, since posting this question, we found a workaround way to deal with it. We use Hummingbird DM for a doc mgmt system, and the following steps refer to "DM". Maybe this will help you, dnharris. 1) Export the DM doc to My Documents 2) In My Documents, right click on the exported file and choose Open with Wordpad (not Notepad) 3) When open in Wordpad: File Save As choose type of "Unicode text document". 4) Right click on that .txt version of the file and choose Open with Microsoft Word. You will get a conversion dialog with Encoded text already selected. Click OK. 5) If you get a File Conversion dialog asking which encoding to use to make your document readable, it should already have Unicode selected, so click OK. 6) Once opened in Word, to change any little blank boxes into dashes, which is what they should be, use Edit/Replace. Select and copy ONE of the boxes, click Edit Replace and in the Find What field press Ctrl+V to paste what you copied (it will just show as a dash). In the Replace With field put a hypen; then click Replace All. 7) Save as a Word doc: File Save As. Cancel the DM dialog and in the Save as type filed choose "Word document.doc" 8) To import this as a second version of your DM doc, right click on the DM doc, choose Versions & Attachments. Right click on the version 1 of your doc and choose Import Version from File. Complete Comments as necessary. "dnharris14" wrote: - This issue is ridiculous. I have posted the same question to a number of newsgroups and forums. No one seems to know why this message appears or what it is doing. The response to this post doesn't seem to work either as out office does not have the office plug-in to NAV installed. This is a truly frustrating and aggravating issue that I wish Microsoft would address in their Knowledge Base. Larraine and I can not be the only two people in the world that see this message and are frustrated by the delays and crashes. I have tried all of the same methods as Larraine with the same result, that is no result. Does anyone know what is going on, or is it a cosmic joke that only Larraine and I are duped by? garfield-n-odie Wrote:- If some version of Norton/Symantec Antivirus is installed on your computer, try turning off the Office Plugin that comes with it. See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=329820 "How to use Office programs with the Norton AntiVirus Office plug-in" for more info. "Larraine W." wrote: - Since moving to Office 2003, when opening some large Word docs, message on status bar reads:"Word is finishing analyzing your document" then a progress bar and then "Press ESC to cancel." Hourglass remains until analyzing finished, and for 100+ page docs can take several minutes. Pressing ESC mutiple times sometimes stops the analyzing, but not always, especially for very large docment. Have tried turning off spelling and grammar checking, smart tags, allow fast saves is off, and other options that might cause "analyzing" on opening. We have LOTS of very large docs (depositions from litigation matters) and some of them actually freeze the application and we can't get them open. All suggestions are welcomed-- -- dnharris14 - -- dnharris14 |
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This is the same guy who posted the other question.
Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: have encountered this message only once before (not personally, but in another question) |
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No, I got a question about this through AllExperts once. I was totally
bamboozled by it then, too. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "garfield-n-odie" wrote in message ... This is the same guy who posted the other question. Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: have encountered this message only once before (not personally, but in another question) |
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The one I was thinking about is
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...c69 735c3062e .. Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: No, I got a question about this through AllExperts once. I was totally bamboozled by it then, too. |
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Hmm. I'd forgotten about that one. In dealing with that, I may have drawn on
some vague recollection of my answer to the August 11, 2004, AllExperts question, which I answered as follows: I've never seen this particular message, and I'm not sure what it might imply. Several thoughts come to mind: 1. Did you upgrade from an earlier version of Word? If so, Word could be converting older documents. I really don't think this is likely, though, as I did upgrade, and I've never seen this message. 2. It's conceivable the message is coming from your virus scanner, if it's one that has an Office Plug-in, such as Norton AntiVirus, but again, I think that's unlikely, as those plug-ins (which, by the way, we recommend disabling) usually give a message such as "Performing virus scan." 3. When I type "analyze" into the Answer Wizard, I pull up Help topics related to the AutoFormat, AutoSummarize, and language AutoDetect features, and the whole area of "auto" stuff seems like the most likely explanation. Smart Tags are another new feature that comes to mind. You might see whether you still get this message is you disable Smart Tags (Smart Tags tab of Tools | AutoCorrect Options) and turn off most of the AutoFormat As You Type options (see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TameAutoFormat.htm). 4. Another possibility is that the document contains links. If you have "Update automatic links at Open" checked on the General tab of Tools | Options, Word could be updating those links. Or, if it's a mail merge main document, Word could be searching for the data source. If it seems I'm grasping at straws, I guess I am. It would help to know more about what sort of document this is, but perhaps the above will give you some leads in tracking down the source of the message. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "garfield-n-odie" wrote in message ... The one I was thinking about is http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...c69 735c3062e . Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: No, I got a question about this through AllExperts once. I was totally bamboozled by it then, too. |
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YIIIIIIII HAAAAAAAA! I think I have this figured out. I'm not sure how to fix it, but I think I know what causes it. I have two templates that load with word along with normal.dot, MWorks32Y.dot and PDFMaker.dot. MWorks32Y is a specifications editing tool that I have been using for years. PDFMaker.dot gets added when Acrobat is installed. Under Tools, Templates and Add-Ins, both are checked, so I did a little experiment. When PDFMaker.dot is checked, either alone on in conjunction with MWorks32Y, I get the message that Word is analyzing....When MWorks32Y is checked alone the message does not appear and the document, even a large 50 page document, opens normally. Now, if I could only figure out why PDFMaker is doing that. Next stop...Adobe.com. Thank you for the input, it got me thinking in the right direction. dnharris14 Suzanne S. Barnhill Wrote: Hmm. I'd forgotten about that one. In dealing with that, I may have drawn on some vague recollection of my answer to the August 11, 2004, AllExperts question, which I answered as follows: I've never seen this particular message, and I'm not sure what it might imply. Several thoughts come to mind: 1. Did you upgrade from an earlier version of Word? If so, Word could be converting older documents. I really don't think this is likely, though, as I did upgrade, and I've never seen this message. 2. It's conceivable the message is coming from your virus scanner, if it's one that has an Office Plug-in, such as Norton AntiVirus, but again, I think that's unlikely, as those plug-ins (which, by the way, we recommend disabling) usually give a message such as "Performing virus scan." 3. When I type "analyze" into the Answer Wizard, I pull up Help topics related to the AutoFormat, AutoSummarize, and language AutoDetect features, and the whole area of "auto" stuff seems like the most likely explanation. Smart Tags are another new feature that comes to mind. You might see whether you still get this message is you disable Smart Tags (Smart Tags tab of Tools | AutoCorrect Options) and turn off most of the AutoFormat As You Type options (see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TameAutoFormat.htm). 4. Another possibility is that the document contains links. If you have "Update automatic links at Open" checked on the General tab of Tools | Options, Word could be updating those links. Or, if it's a mail merge main document, Word could be searching for the data source. If it seems I'm grasping at straws, I guess I am. It would help to know more about what sort of document this is, but perhaps the above will give you some leads in tracking down the source of the message. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "garfield-n-odie" wrote in message ...- The one I was thinking about is - http://tinyurl.com/6nb6r- . Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: - No, I got a question about this through AllExperts once. I was totally bamboozled by it then, too. - - -- dnharris14 |
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And yes folks, it has been me posting the same question in a number of areas. Sorry. dnharris14 dnharris14 Wrote: YIIIIIIII HAAAAAAAA! I think I have this figured out. I'm not sure how to fix it, but I think I know what causes it. I have two templates that load with word along with normal.dot, MWorks32Y.dot and PDFMaker.dot. MWorks32Y is a specifications editing tool that I have been using for years. PDFMaker.dot gets added when Acrobat is installed. Under Tools, Templates and Add-Ins, both are checked, so I did a little experiment. When PDFMaker.dot is checked, either alone on in conjunction with MWorks32Y, I get the message that Word is analyzing....When MWorks32Y is checked alone the message does not appear and the document, even a large 50 page document, opens normally. Now, if I could only figure out why PDFMaker is doing that. Next stop...Adobe.com. Thank you for the input, it got me thinking in the right direction. dnharris14 -- dnharris14 |
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In my own nonprofessional opinion, there is a compatability problem between Acrobat 6.0 and Word 2003. Adobe wants you to upgrade to Acrobat 7.0, hence the reason this never happened using Word 2000. Microsoft Knowledge Base article 821716 gives instructions regarding detecting and fixing the problem. It is fairly convoluted, but in the end, if you are pretty sure the problem is PDFMaker.dot, go to the office11\startup folder and rename the file to PDFMaker.wbt. Word 2003 now starts up without loading the PDF add-in and my documents open like they are supposed to. dnharris14 Wrote: And yes folks, it has been me posting the same question in a number of areas. Sorry. dnharris14 -- dnharris14 |
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Hi Dnharris14,
I really wish Microsoft woud just explain what it is and fix it somehow. In over 12 years using Word I've never seen the message. And this message thread is the first mention I've seen in eight years of on-line support. That, plus Larraine's helpful outline of their situation, makes it fairly certain that this problem does not come from Microsoft, or their product, but is the affect of some third-party software interfering with Word's normal execution. You have to look for the problem on your system/installation. If you work for a company, ask your IT department. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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There is no compatibility problem if you have the compatibility update from
Adobe. However the Acrobat add-in is poorly written and can conflict with other add-ins. There are better methods of controlling the add-in - see http://www.gmayor.com/lose_that_adob...at_toolbar.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org dnharris14 wrote: In my own nonprofessional opinion, there is a compatability problem between Acrobat 6.0 and Word 2003. Adobe wants you to upgrade to Acrobat 7.0, hence the reason this never happened using Word 2000. Microsoft Knowledge Base article 821716 gives instructions regarding detecting and fixing the problem. It is fairly convoluted, but in the end, if you are pretty sure the problem is PDFMaker.dot, go to the office11\startup folder and rename the file to PDFMaker.wbt. Word 2003 now starts up without loading the PDF add-in and my documents open like they are supposed to. dnharris14 Wrote: And yes folks, it has been me posting the same question in a number of areas. Sorry. dnharris14 |
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I have to say I've never seen this particular problem, and I do have the
add-in in Word 2003. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... There is no compatibility problem if you have the compatibility update from Adobe. However the Acrobat add-in is poorly written and can conflict with other add-ins. There are better methods of controlling the add-in - see http://www.gmayor.com/lose_that_adob...at_toolbar.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org dnharris14 wrote: In my own nonprofessional opinion, there is a compatability problem between Acrobat 6.0 and Word 2003. Adobe wants you to upgrade to Acrobat 7.0, hence the reason this never happened using Word 2000. Microsoft Knowledge Base article 821716 gives instructions regarding detecting and fixing the problem. It is fairly convoluted, but in the end, if you are pretty sure the problem is PDFMaker.dot, go to the office11\startup folder and rename the file to PDFMaker.wbt. Word 2003 now starts up without loading the PDF add-in and my documents open like they are supposed to. dnharris14 Wrote: And yes folks, it has been me posting the same question in a number of areas. Sorry. dnharris14 |
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