[Rich]

Anyone know how to enable the page setup feature for endnotes?
Rich Doyle

[Daiya Mitchell]

I'm sorry--the way Word is designed, the idea of page setup for endnotes
doesn't really make any sense. Can you explain more specifically what
you are trying to get your document to do?

Rich wrote:
Anyone know how to enable the page setup feature for endnotes?
Rich Doyle

[Rich]

"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

I'm sorry--the way Word is designed, the idea of page setup for endnotes
doesn't really make any sense. Can you explain more specifically what
you are trying to get your document to do?

Rich wrote:
Anyone know how to enable the page setup feature for endnotes?
Rich Doyle
-------------------------
I can set top and bottom margins throught the entire 300+ page book, but not
the endnotes. Unfortunately the endnotes only take up half a page -- too
many half full pages. On an earlier version I was able to correct this
problem and get full pages of endnotes, but I forgot how to correct the
problem.

[Daiya Mitchell]

Okay, much clearer. That's probably not a margin issue. Probably,
there's some random setting attached to the separator lines that Word
puts at the top of endnote pages by default.

See here (especially the last paragraph) to clear those settings:
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...tm#RandomLines
(you want #5 Random Lines Appear, if the anchor doesn't work)

If that doesn't work--are the endnotes in their own section? Did you
insert a section break after the main text but before the endnotes?
If so, put the cursor right by the section break and try setting the
margins for that section, and also make sure that File | Page Setup |
Layout | Vertical Alignment is set to Top.

If that doesn't work--what version of Word? and describe the problem in
more detail.
I can set top and bottom margins throught the entire 300+ page book, but not
the endnotes. Unfortunately the endnotes only take up half a page -- too
many half full pages. On an earlier version I was able to correct this
problem and get full pages of endnotes, but I forgot how to correct the
problem.

[Rich]

"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

Okay, much clearer. That's probably not a margin issue. Probably,
there's some random setting attached to the separator lines that Word
puts at the top of endnote pages by default.

See here (especially the last paragraph) to clear those settings:
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...tm#RandomLines
(you want #5 Random Lines Appear, if the anchor doesn't work)

If that doesn't work--are the endnotes in their own section? Did you
insert a section break after the main text but before the endnotes?
If so, put the cursor right by the section break and try setting the
margins for that section, and also make sure that File | Page Setup |
Layout | Vertical Alignment is set to Top.

If that doesn't work--what version of Word? and describe the problem in
more detail.
I can set top and bottom margins throught the entire 300+ page book, but not
the endnotes. Unfortunately the endnotes only take up half a page -- too
many half full pages. On an earlier version I was able to correct this
problem and get full pages of endnotes, but I forgot how to correct the
problem.

------------
That worked, Daiya.
Many thanks.

[Daiya Mitchell]

glad to help, thanks for confirming.

[Melissa P]

Hi there,

I am having a similar problem. I have two problems.

First, I have endnotes in the document, and have suppressed them at the end
of each chapter so that they appear after the main text and before the
bibliography. However, I need to remove the running head and page number from
the first page of the Endnotes. When I click on 'file' for the drop down
menu, 'page setup' is not highlighted. If I remove the header and page number
by highlighting them, all the other odd page headers and page numbers in the
notes section disappear. I have tried introducing extra section breaks to be
sure that the first header in the notes section is in the first page in a new
section, but nothing works! Can you help?

The second problem is that the top margin of the endnotes pages is different
from the rest of the document. Wherever I put the cursor (ie by section
breaks as was suggested) it tells me that the top margin is 2.1cm. However,
it patently isn't - it looks different! How can I change it precisely? I know
I can use the double-headed arrow on the side ruler to change it, but that
isn't precise enough.

Thanks in advance!

--
Melissa P


"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

glad to help, thanks for confirming.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

The difference in top margin is probably caused by the Endnote Continuation
Separator. Even if you have deleted the line, you still have the space
unless you formatted the font size or line height to 1 point or Hidden.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Melissa P" wrote in message
...
Hi there,

I am having a similar problem. I have two problems.

First, I have endnotes in the document, and have suppressed them at the
end
of each chapter so that they appear after the main text and before the
bibliography. However, I need to remove the running head and page number
from
the first page of the Endnotes. When I click on 'file' for the drop down
menu, 'page setup' is not highlighted. If I remove the header and page
number
by highlighting them, all the other odd page headers and page numbers in
the
notes section disappear. I have tried introducing extra section breaks to
be
sure that the first header in the notes section is in the first page in a
new
section, but nothing works! Can you help?

The second problem is that the top margin of the endnotes pages is
different
from the rest of the document. Wherever I put the cursor (ie by section
breaks as was suggested) it tells me that the top margin is 2.1cm.
However,
it patently isn't - it looks different! How can I change it precisely? I
know
I can use the double-headed arrow on the side ruler to change it, but that
isn't precise enough.

Thanks in advance!

--
Melissa P


"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

glad to help, thanks for confirming.

[Melissa P]

Thanks Suzanne, that did the trick on the top margin. Any ideas for the
header problem?
--
Melissa P


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The difference in top margin is probably caused by the Endnote Continuation
Separator. Even if you have deleted the line, you still have the space
unless you formatted the font size or line height to 1 point or Hidden.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Melissa P" wrote in message
...
Hi there,

I am having a similar problem. I have two problems.

First, I have endnotes in the document, and have suppressed them at the
end
of each chapter so that they appear after the main text and before the
bibliography. However, I need to remove the running head and page number
from
the first page of the Endnotes. When I click on 'file' for the drop down
menu, 'page setup' is not highlighted. If I remove the header and page
number
by highlighting them, all the other odd page headers and page numbers in
the
notes section disappear. I have tried introducing extra section breaks to
be
sure that the first header in the notes section is in the first page in a
new
section, but nothing works! Can you help?

The second problem is that the top margin of the endnotes pages is
different
from the rest of the document. Wherever I put the cursor (ie by section
breaks as was suggested) it tells me that the top margin is 2.1cm.
However,
it patently isn't - it looks different! How can I change it precisely? I
know
I can use the double-headed arrow on the side ruler to change it, but that
isn't precise enough.

Thanks in advance!

--
Melissa P


"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

glad to help, thanks for confirming.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Well, here's what I would suggest. Insert a new paragraph at the end of the
document text before the endnotes, then insert a section break between the
document text and your new (empty) paragraph, in which you could, if you
liked, type Endnotes or the like. This should give you a section that
contains some text other than endnotes, making the header/footer for the
section accessible for formatting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Melissa P" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne, that did the trick on the top margin. Any ideas for the
header problem?
--
Melissa P


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The difference in top margin is probably caused by the Endnote
Continuation
Separator. Even if you have deleted the line, you still have the space
unless you formatted the font size or line height to 1 point or Hidden.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Melissa P" wrote in message
...
Hi there,

I am having a similar problem. I have two problems.

First, I have endnotes in the document, and have suppressed them at
the
end
of each chapter so that they appear after the main text and before the
bibliography. However, I need to remove the running head and page
number
from
the first page of the Endnotes. When I click on 'file' for the drop
down
menu, 'page setup' is not highlighted. If I remove the header and page
number
by highlighting them, all the other odd page headers and page numbers
in
the
notes section disappear. I have tried introducing extra section breaks
to
be
sure that the first header in the notes section is in the first page
in a
new
section, but nothing works! Can you help?

The second problem is that the top margin of the endnotes pages is
different
from the rest of the document. Wherever I put the cursor (ie by
section
breaks as was suggested) it tells me that the top margin is 2.1cm.
However,
it patently isn't - it looks different! How can I change it precisely?
I
know
I can use the double-headed arrow on the side ruler to change it, but
that
isn't precise enough.

Thanks in advance!

--
Melissa P


"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

glad to help, thanks for confirming.

[Melissa P]

Thanks so much Suzanne, that did the trick too! I put the title 'Notes' at
the top of a new section, and then made a section break (continuous) and
unsuppressed the endnotes at that point. Voila, I had a header! Thanks for
all your help.
--
Melissa P


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Well, here's what I would suggest. Insert a new paragraph at the end of the
document text before the endnotes, then insert a section break between the
document text and your new (empty) paragraph, in which you could, if you
liked, type Endnotes or the like. This should give you a section that
contains some text other than endnotes, making the header/footer for the
section accessible for formatting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Melissa P" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne, that did the trick on the top margin. Any ideas for the
header problem?
--
Melissa P


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The difference in top margin is probably caused by the Endnote
Continuation
Separator. Even if you have deleted the line, you still have the space
unless you formatted the font size or line height to 1 point or Hidden.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Melissa P" wrote in message
...
Hi there,

I am having a similar problem. I have two problems.

First, I have endnotes in the document, and have suppressed them at
the
end
of each chapter so that they appear after the main text and before the
bibliography. However, I need to remove the running head and page
number
from
the first page of the Endnotes. When I click on 'file' for the drop
down
menu, 'page setup' is not highlighted. If I remove the header and page
number
by highlighting them, all the other odd page headers and page numbers
in
the
notes section disappear. I have tried introducing extra section breaks
to
be
sure that the first header in the notes section is in the first page
in a
new
section, but nothing works! Can you help?

The second problem is that the top margin of the endnotes pages is
different
from the rest of the document. Wherever I put the cursor (ie by
section
breaks as was suggested) it tells me that the top margin is 2.1cm.
However,
it patently isn't - it looks different! How can I change it precisely?
I
know
I can use the double-headed arrow on the side ruler to change it, but
that
isn't precise enough.

Thanks in advance!

--
Melissa P


"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

glad to help, thanks for confirming.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Ah, very good. Not quite what I recommended, but whatever works...! I knew I
had done this before but couldn't quite remember what had worked.
Incidentally, one way to deal with the unwanted Endnotes Separator and
Endnotes Continuation Separator is to delete the lines and substitute
"Endnotes" and "Endnotes (continued)." ISTR that there was some problem with
the former, however, and I ended up using a solution like yours, I think. I
guess the problem was that the only way to get the Endnotes heading included
in the TOC (even if I applied Heading 1 style to it) was to take it out of
the endnotes section.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Melissa P" wrote in message
...
Thanks so much Suzanne, that did the trick too! I put the title 'Notes' at
the top of a new section, and then made a section break (continuous) and
unsuppressed the endnotes at that point. Voila, I had a header! Thanks for
all your help.
--
Melissa P


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Well, here's what I would suggest. Insert a new paragraph at the end of
the
document text before the endnotes, then insert a section break between
the
document text and your new (empty) paragraph, in which you could, if you
liked, type Endnotes or the like. This should give you a section that
contains some text other than endnotes, making the header/footer for the
section accessible for formatting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Melissa P" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne, that did the trick on the top margin. Any ideas for
the
header problem?
--
Melissa P


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The difference in top margin is probably caused by the Endnote
Continuation
Separator. Even if you have deleted the line, you still have the
space
unless you formatted the font size or line height to 1 point or
Hidden.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Melissa P" wrote in message
...
Hi there,

I am having a similar problem. I have two problems.

First, I have endnotes in the document, and have suppressed them
at
the
end
of each chapter so that they appear after the main text and before
the
bibliography. However, I need to remove the running head and page
number
from
the first page of the Endnotes. When I click on 'file' for the
drop
down
menu, 'page setup' is not highlighted. If I remove the header and
page
number
by highlighting them, all the other odd page headers and page
numbers
in
the
notes section disappear. I have tried introducing extra section
breaks
to
be
sure that the first header in the notes section is in the first
page
in a
new
section, but nothing works! Can you help?

The second problem is that the top margin of the endnotes pages is
different
from the rest of the document. Wherever I put the cursor (ie by
section
breaks as was suggested) it tells me that the top margin is 2.1cm.
However,
it patently isn't - it looks different! How can I change it
precisely?
I
know
I can use the double-headed arrow on the side ruler to change it,
but
that
isn't precise enough.

Thanks in advance!

--
Melissa P


"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

glad to help, thanks for confirming.