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Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS
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Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as
well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt |
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Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news  Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt |
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But wouldn't such a paragraph break disappear as soon as you updated the
field? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt |
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Well, the one that is at the end of the TOC field code (which appears to be
outside the TOC but is actually inside it) was what was in my mind, but I suppose you're right. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But wouldn't such a paragraph break disappear as soon as you updated the field? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt |
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Seems it had something to do with a text box.
I had to delete everything on the toc page between the two section breaks to get the carriage return to go away. THAT ALL BEING SAID: What I need to do is this, and it seems impossible: I have three tables: TOC, List of Tables, and List of Figures. The TOC and List of Figures are more than 1 page. Therefore, I'm required to have the header: "Item tabpage" at the top of each page. Of course the first page, must have above that "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" respectively. Is there an easy way to do that? I'm currently using sections and putting the TITLE of TOC or LOF in a text box, since "different first page" doesn't seem to work for the header for sections INSIDE a document (don't know why). Any ideas? Kurt "Stefan Blom" wrote: But wouldn't such a paragraph break disappear as soon as you updated the field? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt . |
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Darn it! I just pressed F9 and the paragraph mark is back!
UNBELIEVABLE. Kurt "Stefan Blom" wrote: But wouldn't such a paragraph break disappear as soon as you updated the field? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt . |
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OK, but if I delete the text box, press F9 the extra paragraph mark goes away!
What's going on here? Kurt "Stefan Blom" wrote: But wouldn't such a paragraph break disappear as soon as you updated the field? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt . |
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A text box must be anchored to a text paragraph; that paragraph cannot be
inside a TOC field; that's why Word is insisting on inserting an empty paragraph. A better approach: put each TOC in a separate section with "Different first page" enabled. Put the "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" heading and your "Itemtabpage" heading in ordinary text paragraphs before the TOC field and leave the First Page Header empty. In the Header put your running head ("Table of Contents" or "List of Figures") and your other heading. FWIW, I don't think you need the "Itemtabpage" heading at all. Most people understand how TOCs work and that the number is a page number. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message ... Seems it had something to do with a text box. I had to delete everything on the toc page between the two section breaks to get the carriage return to go away. THAT ALL BEING SAID: What I need to do is this, and it seems impossible: I have three tables: TOC, List of Tables, and List of Figures. The TOC and List of Figures are more than 1 page. Therefore, I'm required to have the header: "Item tabpage" at the top of each page. Of course the first page, must have above that "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" respectively. Is there an easy way to do that? I'm currently using sections and putting the TITLE of TOC or LOF in a text box, since "different first page" doesn't seem to work for the header for sections INSIDE a document (don't know why). Any ideas? Kurt "Stefan Blom" wrote: But wouldn't such a paragraph break disappear as soon as you updated the field? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news
Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt . |
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Read the replies that Suzanne posted.
-- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "petersk" wrote in message ... OK, but if I delete the text box, press F9 the extra paragraph mark goes away! What's going on here? Kurt "Stefan Blom" wrote: But wouldn't such a paragraph break disappear as soon as you updated the field? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news
Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt . |
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Thanks, that's what I ended up doing, but I couldn't really do that in a
separate document using INCLUDETEXT (for the TOC document) because the different first page didn't seem to allow me to bring that in to the main document. So... I had to do the TOCs in the MAIN document instead of a group of little ones. Now, I'm wondering if the header for the Figures will show up in the TOC. As far as your FWIW statement, unfortunately, logic rarely comes into place when you're (I'm) dealing with authorative editors. Kurt "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A text box must be anchored to a text paragraph; that paragraph cannot be inside a TOC field; that's why Word is insisting on inserting an empty paragraph. A better approach: put each TOC in a separate section with "Different first page" enabled. Put the "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" heading and your "Itemtabpage" heading in ordinary text paragraphs before the TOC field and leave the First Page Header empty. In the Header put your running head ("Table of Contents" or "List of Figures") and your other heading. FWIW, I don't think you need the "Itemtabpage" heading at all. Most people understand how TOCs work and that the number is a page number. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message ... Seems it had something to do with a text box. I had to delete everything on the toc page between the two section breaks to get the carriage return to go away. THAT ALL BEING SAID: What I need to do is this, and it seems impossible: I have three tables: TOC, List of Tables, and List of Figures. The TOC and List of Figures are more than 1 page. Therefore, I'm required to have the header: "Item tabpage" at the top of each page. Of course the first page, must have above that "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" respectively. Is there an easy way to do that? I'm currently using sections and putting the TITLE of TOC or LOF in a text box, since "different first page" doesn't seem to work for the header for sections INSIDE a document (don't know why). Any ideas? Kurt "Stefan Blom" wrote: But wouldn't such a paragraph break disappear as soon as you updated the field? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news
Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt . . |
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Although the rest of this conversation appears to be about TOC fields,
as far as INCLUDETEXT fields go, whether they insert "extra" paragraph marks depends on a. what is in the thing you are inserting b. what type of file you are inserting For (a), if you are inserting a complete Word file, you need to know that a Word document always has a final paragraph/section mark, and that is inserted. e.g. suppose you have a document called myfile.doc that contains single paragraph as follows: Hello world! then a document containing aaa{ INCLUDETEXT "myfile.doc" }zzz will show aaaHello world! zzz not aaaHello world!zzz You can work around that problem by inserting a bookmark, e.g. mybm, in myfile.doc that covers all the text except the final paragraph mark, and referencing that in the includetext field, e.g. aaa{ INCLUDETEXT "myfile.doc" mybm }zzz For (b), if you include text from (say) a plain text file, you will also always get a paragraph mark at the end of the field result, even if the text file has no CR or CRLF at the end. AFAIK you cannot avoid that using a bookmark (i.e. as above) because plain text fiels don't have bookmarks. Beyond that (doubt if many people need to know stuff beyond that, but...) what happens depends partly on whether Word uses a built-in text converter (the sort it uses to open "native" Word formats such as Word ..doc, .rtf, possibly .txt and certainly .htm) or an external text converter, e.g. the sort it uses to open WordPerfect or Works files. With internal converters, it is still possible to INCLUDETEXT without inserting a paragraph mark if the source format supports bookmarks. For example, you can define a bookmark in HTML using the a element (e.g. a name="mybm"Hello world!/a and that bookmark can be referenced in an INCLUDETEXT field the same way as a bookmark in a .doc With external converters, Word inserts at least one additional paragraph mark whatever you do. That is a little strange because in Word 2003, converters have to supply Word with a stream of RTF, i.e. the bookmarks look exactly the same as they do in a .rtf file, but Word inserts an extra paragraph mark anyway. Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk On 14/11/2009 18:01, petersk wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt |
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The header trick seemed to work. Just got to get the distance from the top
just right now. That vertical ruler is pretty useless other than eyeballing things. I wish there was a way to have guidelines from the ruler to show just how far you are from the paper's (or margin's) edge. Kurt "petersk" wrote: Thanks, that's what I ended up doing, but I couldn't really do that in a separate document using INCLUDETEXT (for the TOC document) because the different first page didn't seem to allow me to bring that in to the main document. So... I had to do the TOCs in the MAIN document instead of a group of little ones. Now, I'm wondering if the header for the Figures will show up in the TOC. As far as your FWIW statement, unfortunately, logic rarely comes into place when you're (I'm) dealing with authorative editors. Kurt "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A text box must be anchored to a text paragraph; that paragraph cannot be inside a TOC field; that's why Word is insisting on inserting an empty paragraph. A better approach: put each TOC in a separate section with "Different first page" enabled. Put the "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" heading and your "Itemtabpage" heading in ordinary text paragraphs before the TOC field and leave the First Page Header empty. In the Header put your running head ("Table of Contents" or "List of Figures") and your other heading. FWIW, I don't think you need the "Itemtabpage" heading at all. Most people understand how TOCs work and that the number is a page number. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message ... Seems it had something to do with a text box. I had to delete everything on the toc page between the two section breaks to get the carriage return to go away. THAT ALL BEING SAID: What I need to do is this, and it seems impossible: I have three tables: TOC, List of Tables, and List of Figures. The TOC and List of Figures are more than 1 page. Therefore, I'm required to have the header: "Item tabpage" at the top of each page. Of course the first page, must have above that "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" respectively. Is there an easy way to do that? I'm currently using sections and putting the TITLE of TOC or LOF in a text box, since "different first page" doesn't seem to work for the header for sections INSIDE a document (don't know why). Any ideas? Kurt "Stefan Blom" wrote: But wouldn't such a paragraph break disappear as soon as you updated the field? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news
Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt . . |
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Again I'll point out that the item-page heading isn't really necessary.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message ... The header trick seemed to work. Just got to get the distance from the top just right now. That vertical ruler is pretty useless other than eyeballing things. I wish there was a way to have guidelines from the ruler to show just how far you are from the paper's (or margin's) edge. Kurt "petersk" wrote: Thanks, that's what I ended up doing, but I couldn't really do that in a separate document using INCLUDETEXT (for the TOC document) because the different first page didn't seem to allow me to bring that in to the main document. So... I had to do the TOCs in the MAIN document instead of a group of little ones. Now, I'm wondering if the header for the Figures will show up in the TOC. As far as your FWIW statement, unfortunately, logic rarely comes into place when you're (I'm) dealing with authorative editors. Kurt "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A text box must be anchored to a text paragraph; that paragraph cannot be inside a TOC field; that's why Word is insisting on inserting an empty paragraph. A better approach: put each TOC in a separate section with "Different first page" enabled. Put the "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" heading and your "Itemtabpage" heading in ordinary text paragraphs before the TOC field and leave the First Page Header empty. In the Header put your running head ("Table of Contents" or "List of Figures") and your other heading. FWIW, I don't think you need the "Itemtabpage" heading at all. Most people understand how TOCs work and that the number is a page number. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message ... Seems it had something to do with a text box. I had to delete everything on the toc page between the two section breaks to get the carriage return to go away. THAT ALL BEING SAID: What I need to do is this, and it seems impossible: I have three tables: TOC, List of Tables, and List of Figures. The TOC and List of Figures are more than 1 page. Therefore, I'm required to have the header: "Item tabpage" at the top of each page. Of course the first page, must have above that "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" respectively. Is there an easy way to do that? I'm currently using sections and putting the TITLE of TOC or LOF in a text box, since "different first page" doesn't seem to work for the header for sections INSIDE a document (don't know why). Any ideas? Kurt "Stefan Blom" wrote: But wouldn't such a paragraph break disappear as soon as you updated the field? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news
Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt . . |
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I'm not sure what you mean by that Suzanne. Have you read my explanation
that my editor requires the heading on each page? Kurt "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Again I'll point out that the item-page heading isn't really necessary. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message ... The header trick seemed to work. Just got to get the distance from the top just right now. That vertical ruler is pretty useless other than eyeballing things. I wish there was a way to have guidelines from the ruler to show just how far you are from the paper's (or margin's) edge. Kurt "petersk" wrote: Thanks, that's what I ended up doing, but I couldn't really do that in a separate document using INCLUDETEXT (for the TOC document) because the different first page didn't seem to allow me to bring that in to the main document. So... I had to do the TOCs in the MAIN document instead of a group of little ones. Now, I'm wondering if the header for the Figures will show up in the TOC. As far as your FWIW statement, unfortunately, logic rarely comes into place when you're (I'm) dealing with authorative editors. Kurt "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A text box must be anchored to a text paragraph; that paragraph cannot be inside a TOC field; that's why Word is insisting on inserting an empty paragraph. A better approach: put each TOC in a separate section with "Different first page" enabled. Put the "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" heading and your "Itemtabpage" heading in ordinary text paragraphs before the TOC field and leave the First Page Header empty. In the Header put your running head ("Table of Contents" or "List of Figures") and your other heading. FWIW, I don't think you need the "Itemtabpage" heading at all. Most people understand how TOCs work and that the number is a page number. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message ... Seems it had something to do with a text box. I had to delete everything on the toc page between the two section breaks to get the carriage return to go away. THAT ALL BEING SAID: What I need to do is this, and it seems impossible: I have three tables: TOC, List of Tables, and List of Figures. The TOC and List of Figures are more than 1 page. Therefore, I'm required to have the header: "Item tabpage" at the top of each page. Of course the first page, must have above that "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" respectively. Is there an easy way to do that? I'm currently using sections and putting the TITLE of TOC or LOF in a text box, since "different first page" doesn't seem to work for the header for sections INSIDE a document (don't know why). Any ideas? Kurt "Stefan Blom" wrote: But wouldn't such a paragraph break disappear as soon as you updated the field? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news
Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt . . . |
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Ah, if the editor requires it, then I suppose it must be done. You might,
however, point out that it's rather an insult to the reader. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message ... I'm not sure what you mean by that Suzanne. Have you read my explanation that my editor requires the heading on each page? Kurt "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Again I'll point out that the item-page heading isn't really necessary. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message ... The header trick seemed to work. Just got to get the distance from the top just right now. That vertical ruler is pretty useless other than eyeballing things. I wish there was a way to have guidelines from the ruler to show just how far you are from the paper's (or margin's) edge. Kurt "petersk" wrote: Thanks, that's what I ended up doing, but I couldn't really do that in a separate document using INCLUDETEXT (for the TOC document) because the different first page didn't seem to allow me to bring that in to the main document. So... I had to do the TOCs in the MAIN document instead of a group of little ones. Now, I'm wondering if the header for the Figures will show up in the TOC. As far as your FWIW statement, unfortunately, logic rarely comes into place when you're (I'm) dealing with authorative editors. Kurt "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A text box must be anchored to a text paragraph; that paragraph cannot be inside a TOC field; that's why Word is insisting on inserting an empty paragraph. A better approach: put each TOC in a separate section with "Different first page" enabled. Put the "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" heading and your "Itemtabpage" heading in ordinary text paragraphs before the TOC field and leave the First Page Header empty. In the Header put your running head ("Table of Contents" or "List of Figures") and your other heading. FWIW, I don't think you need the "Itemtabpage" heading at all. Most people understand how TOCs work and that the number is a page number. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message ... Seems it had something to do with a text box. I had to delete everything on the toc page between the two section breaks to get the carriage return to go away. THAT ALL BEING SAID: What I need to do is this, and it seems impossible: I have three tables: TOC, List of Tables, and List of Figures. The TOC and List of Figures are more than 1 page. Therefore, I'm required to have the header: "Item tabpage" at the top of each page. Of course the first page, must have above that "Table of Contents" or "List of Figures" respectively. Is there an easy way to do that? I'm currently using sections and putting the TITLE of TOC or LOF in a text box, since "different first page" doesn't seem to work for the header for sections INSIDE a document (don't know why). Any ideas? Kurt "Stefan Blom" wrote: But wouldn't such a paragraph break disappear as soon as you updated the field? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Make sure there is not a paragraph break inside the field code. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "petersk" wrote in message news
Actually, this is happening before even my field {TOC \o "1-2" \h \z \u} as well. WHAT is the deal? It's REALLY messing up formatting! "petersk" wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt . . . |
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INCLUDETEXT field adding extra carriage return before and afte
Thanks for the help all. I used Suzanne's suggestion and no longer import
(using INCLUDETEXT) the list of figures, table of contents, or list of tables files. I create them in the "main" document. Although not as elegant, it's working well. Have a problem to solve with the figures somehow not keeping their spacing, but that can be handled by going to each one and fixing them. Otherwise, things are almost done. I would have expected a little more from MS Word with it being in it's tenth or so revision, but oh well, I guess that's why people still use Latex. Kurt "Peter Jamieson" wrote: Although the rest of this conversation appears to be about TOC fields, as far as INCLUDETEXT fields go, whether they insert "extra" paragraph marks depends on a. what is in the thing you are inserting b. what type of file you are inserting For (a), if you are inserting a complete Word file, you need to know that a Word document always has a final paragraph/section mark, and that is inserted. e.g. suppose you have a document called myfile.doc that contains single paragraph as follows: Hello world! then a document containing aaa{ INCLUDETEXT "myfile.doc" }zzz will show aaaHello world! zzz not aaaHello world!zzz You can work around that problem by inserting a bookmark, e.g. mybm, in myfile.doc that covers all the text except the final paragraph mark, and referencing that in the includetext field, e.g. aaa{ INCLUDETEXT "myfile.doc" mybm }zzz For (b), if you include text from (say) a plain text file, you will also always get a paragraph mark at the end of the field result, even if the text file has no CR or CRLF at the end. AFAIK you cannot avoid that using a bookmark (i.e. as above) because plain text fiels don't have bookmarks. Beyond that (doubt if many people need to know stuff beyond that, but...) what happens depends partly on whether Word uses a built-in text converter (the sort it uses to open "native" Word formats such as Word ..doc, .rtf, possibly .txt and certainly .htm) or an external text converter, e.g. the sort it uses to open WordPerfect or Works files. With internal converters, it is still possible to INCLUDETEXT without inserting a paragraph mark if the source format supports bookmarks. For example, you can define a bookmark in HTML using the a element (e.g. a name="mybm"Hello world!/a and that bookmark can be referenced in an INCLUDETEXT field the same way as a bookmark in a .doc With external converters, Word inserts at least one additional paragraph mark whatever you do. That is a little strange because in Word 2003, converters have to supply Word with a stream of RTF, i.e. the bookmarks look exactly the same as they do in a .rtf file, but Word inserts an extra paragraph mark anyway. Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk On 14/11/2009 18:01, petersk wrote: Is there any way to eliminate the extra paragraph mark being inserted in MS Word 2003 before and after the field {INCLUDETEXT} ? Kurt . |
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