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Hanging indent & numbered list
I created a numbered list in Word 2007. I want to create a hanging indent.
The "hanging indent" triangle on the ruler does not move independently of the "left indent" square. I also tried using the Paragraph popup to create the hanging indent. It looks correct in the Preview area at the bottom of the popup, but when I click "OK" it does not change the way the actual list displays (number indented 0.25", then first and subsequent lines aligned and indented another 0.25"): 1. First line is indented like this and the Second line is indented the same amount. When I change the hanging indent amount, it moves both the first and subsequent lines to the right by the same amount. Thanks. |
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That's correct. If you drag Hanging Indent, Left Indent goes with it. If you
drag Left Indent, then both Hanging Indent and First Line Indent markers go with it. For numbered lists, you need to set left and hanging indents in the multilevel list dialog instead of in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Carol" wrote in message ... I created a numbered list in Word 2007. I want to create a hanging indent. The "hanging indent" triangle on the ruler does not move independently of the "left indent" square. I also tried using the Paragraph popup to create the hanging indent. It looks correct in the Preview area at the bottom of the popup, but when I click "OK" it does not change the way the actual list displays (number indented 0.25", then first and subsequent lines aligned and indented another 0.25"): 1. First line is indented like this and the Second line is indented the same amount. When I change the hanging indent amount, it moves both the first and subsequent lines to the right by the same amount. Thanks. |
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Suzanne, I started over by highlighting and setting the numbered list to
"None". Then I highlighted the entire list and applied the first type in the multilevel lest. But I don't see a place to specify a hanging indent in the multilevel options. Also, the numbered list seems to automatically revert back to single level as that is the option is highlighted in orange on the ribbon, even though I changed the list to multilevel... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: That's correct. If you drag Hanging Indent, Left Indent goes with it. If you drag Left Indent, then both Hanging Indent and First Line Indent markers go with it. For numbered lists, you need to set left and hanging indents in the multilevel list dialog instead of in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Carol" wrote in message ... I created a numbered list in Word 2007. I want to create a hanging indent. The "hanging indent" triangle on the ruler does not move independently of the "left indent" square. I also tried using the Paragraph popup to create the hanging indent. It looks correct in the Preview area at the bottom of the popup, but when I click "OK" it does not change the way the actual list displays (number indented 0.25", then first and subsequent lines aligned and indented another 0.25"): 1. First line is indented like this and the Second line is indented the same amount. When I change the hanging indent amount, it moves both the first and subsequent lines to the right by the same amount. Thanks. |
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I keep trying to avoid getting dragged into discussions of numbering in Word
2007 because I have not really mastered the way it works there (I am a whiz in Word 2003). I believe, however, that you need to use Define New Multilevel List, which gets you to a dialog similar to the Customize Outline Numbered List dialog in earlier versions. Here you can set the indents and (very important) link the list levels to specific styles by clicking More to expose the entire dialog. I often see recommendations to use Define New List Style instead. This is even more involved, and I'm far from clear on the benefits of it (as opposed to a multilevel lists linked to paragraph styles), but the main thing is that when you click Format | Numbering in that dialog, you get to the Modify Multilevel List dialog, which is identical to the Define New Multilevel List dialog. It may be that you can apply a list style to, say Body Text, and then promote/demote levels in the list without actually changing the paragraph style (it continues to all be Body Text with different list levels applied), but I'm just more comfortable with specific numbering formats linked to different paragraph styles. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Carol" wrote in message ... Suzanne, I started over by highlighting and setting the numbered list to "None". Then I highlighted the entire list and applied the first type in the multilevel lest. But I don't see a place to specify a hanging indent in the multilevel options. Also, the numbered list seems to automatically revert back to single level as that is the option is highlighted in orange on the ribbon, even though I changed the list to multilevel... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: That's correct. If you drag Hanging Indent, Left Indent goes with it. If you drag Left Indent, then both Hanging Indent and First Line Indent markers go with it. For numbered lists, you need to set left and hanging indents in the multilevel list dialog instead of in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Carol" wrote in message ... I created a numbered list in Word 2007. I want to create a hanging indent. The "hanging indent" triangle on the ruler does not move independently of the "left indent" square. I also tried using the Paragraph popup to create the hanging indent. It looks correct in the Preview area at the bottom of the popup, but when I click "OK" it does not change the way the actual list displays (number indented 0.25", then first and subsequent lines aligned and indented another 0.25"): 1. First line is indented like this and the Second line is indented the same amount. When I change the hanging indent amount, it moves both the first and subsequent lines to the right by the same amount. Thanks. |
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The big difference is that in Word 2007 you can no longer access the
numbering options via the Modify Style (or Create Style) dialog box, which is recommended for Word 97-2003. Home tab | Multilevel List | Define New Multilevel List is the closest equivalence in Word 2007, at least if you are dealing with a list created in an older version of Word. The advantage of using list styles, at least in theory, is that each list style provides a "wrapper" for an outline numbering scheme. Think of how the top-level style (and the Modify Style dialog box) used to work in Word 97-2003. In other words, you can modify the numbering by modifying the list style (via the Modify Style dialog box for the list style). But you could certainly argue that list styles add a level of complexity to the process and, of course, we don't yet know anything about possible bugs associated with them... I did experience something strange the other day regarding a multilevel bulleted list, but I don't know what caused it. I couldn't fix it by editing the list style, though. Here are the symptoms: All of a sudden the indentation for the top-level bullet was wrong. Looking at the style description in the Modify Style dialog box I could see nothing wrong, and going into Format, Numbering removed the bullets from text. Instead I exited and closed the document without saving, and then I copied the list style and the paragraph styles associated with it from another, working document. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I keep trying to avoid getting dragged into discussions of numbering in Word 2007 because I have not really mastered the way it works there (I am a whiz in Word 2003). I believe, however, that you need to use Define New Multilevel List, which gets you to a dialog similar to the Customize Outline Numbered List dialog in earlier versions. Here you can set the indents and (very important) link the list levels to specific styles by clicking More to expose the entire dialog. I often see recommendations to use Define New List Style instead. This is even more involved, and I'm far from clear on the benefits of it (as opposed to a multilevel lists linked to paragraph styles), but the main thing is that when you click Format | Numbering in that dialog, you get to the Modify Multilevel List dialog, which is identical to the Define New Multilevel List dialog. It may be that you can apply a list style to, say Body Text, and then promote/demote levels in the list without actually changing the paragraph style (it continues to all be Body Text with different list levels applied), but I'm just more comfortable with specific numbering formats linked to different paragraph styles. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Carol" wrote in message ... Suzanne, I started over by highlighting and setting the numbered list to "None". Then I highlighted the entire list and applied the first type in the multilevel lest. But I don't see a place to specify a hanging indent in the multilevel options. Also, the numbered list seems to automatically revert back to single level as that is the option is highlighted in orange on the ribbon, even though I changed the list to multilevel... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: That's correct. If you drag Hanging Indent, Left Indent goes with it. If you drag Left Indent, then both Hanging Indent and First Line Indent markers go with it. For numbered lists, you need to set left and hanging indents in the multilevel list dialog instead of in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Carol" wrote in message ... I created a numbered list in Word 2007. I want to create a hanging indent. The "hanging indent" triangle on the ruler does not move independently of the "left indent" square. I also tried using the Paragraph popup to create the hanging indent. It looks correct in the Preview area at the bottom of the popup, but when I click "OK" it does not change the way the actual list displays (number indented 0.25", then first and subsequent lines aligned and indented another 0.25"): 1. First line is indented like this and the Second line is indented the same amount. When I change the hanging indent amount, it moves both the first and subsequent lines to the right by the same amount. Thanks. |
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I'm glad I'm not the only one still floundering here! Stefan, you wouldn't
believe how many of your numbering-related posts I've saved over the past year or so and referred to when I was trying to update one of my numbering-related articles! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... The big difference is that in Word 2007 you can no longer access the numbering options via the Modify Style (or Create Style) dialog box, which is recommended for Word 97-2003. Home tab | Multilevel List | Define New Multilevel List is the closest equivalence in Word 2007, at least if you are dealing with a list created in an older version of Word. The advantage of using list styles, at least in theory, is that each list style provides a "wrapper" for an outline numbering scheme. Think of how the top-level style (and the Modify Style dialog box) used to work in Word 97-2003. In other words, you can modify the numbering by modifying the list style (via the Modify Style dialog box for the list style). But you could certainly argue that list styles add a level of complexity to the process and, of course, we don't yet know anything about possible bugs associated with them... I did experience something strange the other day regarding a multilevel bulleted list, but I don't know what caused it. I couldn't fix it by editing the list style, though. Here are the symptoms: All of a sudden the indentation for the top-level bullet was wrong. Looking at the style description in the Modify Style dialog box I could see nothing wrong, and going into Format, Numbering removed the bullets from text. Instead I exited and closed the document without saving, and then I copied the list style and the paragraph styles associated with it from another, working document. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I keep trying to avoid getting dragged into discussions of numbering in Word 2007 because I have not really mastered the way it works there (I am a whiz in Word 2003). I believe, however, that you need to use Define New Multilevel List, which gets you to a dialog similar to the Customize Outline Numbered List dialog in earlier versions. Here you can set the indents and (very important) link the list levels to specific styles by clicking More to expose the entire dialog. I often see recommendations to use Define New List Style instead. This is even more involved, and I'm far from clear on the benefits of it (as opposed to a multilevel lists linked to paragraph styles), but the main thing is that when you click Format | Numbering in that dialog, you get to the Modify Multilevel List dialog, which is identical to the Define New Multilevel List dialog. It may be that you can apply a list style to, say Body Text, and then promote/demote levels in the list without actually changing the paragraph style (it continues to all be Body Text with different list levels applied), but I'm just more comfortable with specific numbering formats linked to different paragraph styles. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Carol" wrote in message ... Suzanne, I started over by highlighting and setting the numbered list to "None". Then I highlighted the entire list and applied the first type in the multilevel lest. But I don't see a place to specify a hanging indent in the multilevel options. Also, the numbered list seems to automatically revert back to single level as that is the option is highlighted in orange on the ribbon, even though I changed the list to multilevel... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: That's correct. If you drag Hanging Indent, Left Indent goes with it. If you drag Left Indent, then both Hanging Indent and First Line Indent markers go with it. For numbered lists, you need to set left and hanging indents in the multilevel list dialog instead of in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Carol" wrote in message ... I created a numbered list in Word 2007. I want to create a hanging indent. The "hanging indent" triangle on the ruler does not move independently of the "left indent" square. I also tried using the Paragraph popup to create the hanging indent. It looks correct in the Preview area at the bottom of the popup, but when I click "OK" it does not change the way the actual list displays (number indented 0.25", then first and subsequent lines aligned and indented another 0.25"): 1. First line is indented like this and the Second line is indented the same amount. When I change the hanging indent amount, it moves both the first and subsequent lines to the right by the same amount. Thanks. |
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