[Terry Hollands]

Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from 'pt' to
'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave a
space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks.
--
Terry Hollands

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Yes and no. The spacing will always be displayed in points but may be
entered in inches or centimeters, which Word will convert to points. Select
the default "0 pt" in the Spacing Before/After box and type in "3 cm" (Word
will convert to 85.05 pt.)

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Terry Hollands" wrote in message
news
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from 'pt'
to
'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave a
space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks.
--
Terry Hollands

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

Terry,

AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to centimeters using
ToolsOptionsGeneralMeasurement units but this has no effect on the units
used in space before or after.

Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to points
using:

Sub GetPointEquivelent()
MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the space
before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could also set it
directly using:

Sub ScratchMaco()
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

But again Word rounds it to 85.05.

See: http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm


Terry Hollands wrote:
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
'pt' to 'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave
a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
helpful. Thanks.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

You can't change the unit of measurement, but note that it's possible to
type in "3 cm"; Word will convert it to the corresponding value in points
(you won't see the converted value until you close and reopen the dialog
box, though).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Terry Hollands" wrote in message
news
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from 'pt'
to
'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave a
space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks.
--
Terry Hollands

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

You can't change the unit of measurement, but note that it's possible to
type in "3 cm"; Word will convert it to the corresponding value in points
(you won't see the converted value until you close and reopen the dialog
box, though).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




"Terry Hollands" wrote:

Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from 'pt' to
'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave a
space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks.
--
Terry Hollands

[DeanH]

Apologies for the repeated solution.
The newsgroup seems to be out-of-sync, Express says no answers yet, MS
Discussion, shows none, and Google Groups show 4!
Also Notification Replies not working either (not for a long time).
Has the problem been reported, being worked on? Anyone out there?
;-)
DeanH


"Terry Hollands" wrote:

Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from 'pt' to
'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave a
space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks.
--
Terry Hollands

[DeanH]

Just type in the Space After box "3cm" and Word will accept it and will also
convert it to 85.05pt for you as well.
--
Hope this helps
DeanH


"Terry Hollands" wrote:

Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from 'pt' to
'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave a
space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks.
--
Terry Hollands

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

It seems to take a long time before messages become visible after posted.
And, once again, messages posted via NNTP don't show up.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




"DeanH" wrote:

Apologies for the repeated solution.
The newsgroup seems to be out-of-sync, Express says no answers yet, MS
Discussion, shows none, and Google Groups show 4!
Also Notification Replies not working either (not for a long time).
Has the problem been reported, being worked on? Anyone out there?
;-)
DeanH


"Terry Hollands" wrote:

Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from 'pt' to
'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave a
space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks.
--
Terry Hollands

[Peter T. Daniels]

Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as close
to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for calculating
the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.

On Nov 2, 8:16*am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Terry,

AFAIK, no. *You can change the default unit of measure to centimeters using
ToolsOptionsGeneralMeasurement units but this has no effect on the units
used in space before or after.

Even programmatically you can only get close. *You can convert cm to points
using:

Sub GetPointEquivelent()
MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

Which returns 85.03937. *However if this value is entered into the space
before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. *You could also set it
directly using:

Sub ScratchMaco()
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

But again Word rounds it to 85.05.

See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

Terry Hollands wrote:
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
'pt' to 'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave
a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
helpful. Thanks.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

If NNTP is not being propagated, then I'm wasting my time again. sigh

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
It seems to take a long time before messages become visible after posted.
And, once again, messages posted via NNTP don't show up.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




"DeanH" wrote:

Apologies for the repeated solution.
The newsgroup seems to be out-of-sync, Express says no answers yet, MS
Discussion, shows none, and Google Groups show 4!
Also Notification Replies not working either (not for a long time).
Has the problem been reported, being worked on? Anyone out there?
;-)
DeanH


"Terry Hollands" wrote:

Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
'pt' to
'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave a
space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
helpful.
Thanks.
--
Terry Hollands

[Peter T. Daniels]

The messages are showing up (as promptly as usual) in google groups,
whether posted to the newsgroup or to the MS interface, so it must be
the MS interface that's acting up.

On Nov 2, 10:25*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
If NNTP is not being propagated, then I'm wasting my time again. sigh

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message

...



It seems to take a long time before messages become visible after posted.
And, once again, messages posted via NNTP don't show up.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"DeanH" wrote:

Apologies for the repeated solution.
The newsgroup seems to be out-of-sync, Express says no answers yet, MS
Discussion, shows none, and Google Groups show 4!
Also Notification Replies not working either (not for a long time).
Has the problem been reported, being worked on? Anyone out there?
;-)
DeanH

"Terry Hollands" wrote:

Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
'pt' to
'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave a
space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
helpful.
Thanks.
--
Terry Hollands-

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

We know that; it's been reported in the private NGs. Unfortunately, the
people in charge of this can't seem to figure out what the problem is. The
fact is that NNTP is on its way out; we've been told that all MS NNTP NGs
are going to be phased out and moved to online forums at some point (no
timeline has been given).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
The messages are showing up (as promptly as usual) in google groups,
whether posted to the newsgroup or to the MS interface, so it must be
the MS interface that's acting up.

On Nov 2, 10:25 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
If NNTP is not being propagated, then I'm wasting my time again. sigh

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message

...



It seems to take a long time before messages become visible after
posted.
And, once again, messages posted via NNTP don't show up.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"DeanH" wrote:

Apologies for the repeated solution.
The newsgroup seems to be out-of-sync, Express says no answers yet, MS
Discussion, shows none, and Google Groups show 4!
Also Notification Replies not working either (not for a long time).
Has the problem been reported, being worked on? Anyone out there?
;-)
DeanH

"Terry Hollands" wrote:

Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
'pt' to
'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave
a
space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
helpful.
Thanks.
--
Terry Hollands-

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

Mr. Daniels,

Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms. Barnhill's reply
posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously. I'll take my nails and hammers
over your empty box any day.

Cheers.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as close
to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for calculating
the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.

On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Terry,

AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to centimeters using
ToolsOptionsGeneralMeasurement units but this has no effect on the
units
used in space before or after.

Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to points
using:

Sub GetPointEquivelent()
MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the space
before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could also set it
directly using:

Sub ScratchMaco()
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

But again Word rounds it to 85.05.

See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

Terry Hollands wrote:
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
'pt' to 'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave
a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
helpful. Thanks.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

While Peter may have been able to see my post, it's quite likely that those
connnecting through the MS Communities cannot, so repetition is not a bad
idea.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Mr. Daniels,

Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms. Barnhill's reply
posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously. I'll take my nails and hammers
over your empty box any day.

Cheers.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as close
to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for calculating
the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.

On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Terry,

AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to centimeters
using
ToolsOptionsGeneralMeasurement units but this has no effect on the
units
used in space before or after.

Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to
points
using:

Sub GetPointEquivelent()
MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the space
before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could also set it
directly using:

Sub ScratchMaco()
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

But again Word rounds it to 85.05.

See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

Terry Hollands wrote:
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
'pt' to 'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave
a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
helpful. Thanks.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

Ms. Barnhill,

The repetition is one thing and perfectly acceptable. The pretense that the
dilettante had anything to offer before reading your post is another.
Apparently Mr. Daniels leveraged the macro (or the result it provides) to
realize that 85.05 points is as close as Word will get when setting
paragraph spacing to 3 cm.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
While Peter may have been able to see my post, it's quite likely that
those connnecting through the MS Communities cannot, so repetition is not
a bad idea.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Mr. Daniels,

Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms. Barnhill's reply
posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously. I'll take my nails and hammers
over your empty box any day.

Cheers.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as close
to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for calculating
the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.

On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Terry,

AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to centimeters
using
ToolsOptionsGeneralMeasurement units but this has no effect on the
units
used in space before or after.

Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to
points
using:

Sub GetPointEquivelent()
MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the space
before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could also set it
directly using:

Sub ScratchMaco()
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

But again Word rounds it to 85.05.

See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

Terry Hollands wrote:
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
'pt' to 'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave
a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
helpful. Thanks.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Greg had not seen your and Stefan's postings, because the three of you
posted nearly simultaneously. My posting was not offered as help to
Terry, who got good advice from you and Stefan and less good advice
from Greg, who gave the appearance of being unaware that Word will
translate measures typed in a measurement box into other units without
the intervention of the user..

On Nov 2, 12:02*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
While Peter may have been able to see my post, it's quite likely that those
connnecting through the MS Communities cannot, so repetition is not a bad
idea.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message

...



Mr. Daniels,

Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms. Barnhill's reply
posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously. *I'll take my nails and hammers
over your empty box any day.

Cheers.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
....
Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as close
to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for calculating
the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.

On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Terry,

AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to centimeters
using
ToolsOptionsGeneralMeasurement units but this has no effect on the
units
used in space before or after.

Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to
points
using:

Sub GetPointEquivelent()
MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the space
before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could also set it
directly using:

Sub ScratchMaco()
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

But again Word rounds it to 85.05.

See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

Terry Hollands wrote:
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
'pt' to 'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave
a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
helpful. Thanks.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.-

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

Let's hope that the web interface have improved greatly when NNTP disappears
for good. Or, even better, let's hope Microsoft reconsiders the decision to
get rid of the NNTP groups.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
We know that; it's been reported in the private NGs. Unfortunately, the
people in charge of this can't seem to figure out what the problem is. The
fact is that NNTP is on its way out; we've been told that all MS NNTP NGs
are going to be phased out and moved to online forums at some point (no
timeline has been given).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
The messages are showing up (as promptly as usual) in google groups,
whether posted to the newsgroup or to the MS interface, so it must be
the MS interface that's acting up.

On Nov 2, 10:25 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
If NNTP is not being propagated, then I'm wasting my time again. sigh

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message

...



It seems to take a long time before messages become visible after
posted.
And, once again, messages posted via NNTP don't show up.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"DeanH" wrote:

Apologies for the repeated solution.
The newsgroup seems to be out-of-sync, Express says no answers yet, MS
Discussion, shows none, and Google Groups show 4!
Also Notification Replies not working either (not for a long time).
Has the problem been reported, being worked on? Anyone out there?
;-)
DeanH

"Terry Hollands" wrote:

Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs
from
'pt' to
'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to
leave a
space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
helpful.
Thanks.
--
Terry Hollands-

[Graham Mayor]

If it doesn't then for some of us life is far too short for messing around
with web forums.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Stefan Blom wrote:
Let's hope that the web interface have improved greatly when NNTP
disappears for good. Or, even better, let's hope Microsoft
reconsiders the decision to get rid of the NNTP groups.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
We know that; it's been reported in the private NGs. Unfortunately,
the people in charge of this can't seem to figure out what the
problem is. The fact is that NNTP is on its way out; we've been told
that all MS NNTP NGs are going to be phased out and moved to online
forums at some point (no timeline has been given).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
The messages are showing up (as promptly as usual) in google groups,
whether posted to the newsgroup or to the MS interface, so it must be
the MS interface that's acting up.

On Nov 2, 10:25 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
If NNTP is not being propagated, then I'm wasting my time again.
sigh --
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in
message ...



It seems to take a long time before messages become visible after
posted.
And, once again, messages posted via NNTP don't show up.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"DeanH" wrote:

Apologies for the repeated solution.
The newsgroup seems to be out-of-sync, Express says no answers
yet, MS Discussion, shows none, and Google Groups show 4!
Also Notification Replies not working either (not for a long
time). Has the problem been reported, being worked on? Anyone out
there? ;-)
DeanH

"Terry Hollands" wrote:

Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs
from
'pt' to
'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to
leave a
space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
helpful.
Thanks.
--
Terry Hollands-

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

Mr. Daniels,

As your post was not offered as help (in your own words), you have
disassociated yourself from any credit that Ms. Barnhill tried to give you
and "may "leave some in the group to wonder just why was it offered?

To remove all doubt as to appearances, Greg was not aware. Still, he didn't
need your post to make him so. Ms. Barnhill's post was good advice (again
your own words) and took care of that for both Greg and Terry.

Greg had not seen Ms. Barnhill or Stefan's postings (a slight altering of
your own words), This gives the appearance that you had. Since you didn't
post to help it appears that you were simply parroting what you had just
discovered yourself, thanks to Ms. Barnhill and Stephan, while pouring out
your scorn on more advanced features of Word that you don't understand or
choose to explore yourself. Then unwittingly you use the information those
nails and hammers provide to confirm yourself that the conversion is as
close as Word can get.

The answer to the basic question is still no. Whatever is successfully set
either in the field or programatically the unit of measure displayed is
still points.

Cheers.


Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Greg had not seen your and Stefan's postings, because the three of you
posted nearly simultaneously. My posting was not offered as help to
Terry, who got good advice from you and Stefan and less good advice
from Greg, who gave the appearance of being unaware that Word will
translate measures typed in a measurement box into other units without
the intervention of the user..

On Nov 2, 12:02 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
While Peter may have been able to see my post, it's quite likely
that those connnecting through the MS Communities cannot, so
repetition is not a bad idea.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Greg Maxey" wrote in
message

...



Mr. Daniels,

Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms. Barnhill's
reply posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously. I'll take my nails
and hammers over your empty box any day.

Cheers.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as
close to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for
calculating the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.

On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Terry,

AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to
centimeters using
ToolsOptionsGeneralMeasurement units but this has no effect on
the units
used in space before or after.

Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to
points
using:

Sub GetPointEquivelent()
MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the
space before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could
also set it directly using:

Sub ScratchMaco()
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

But again Word rounds it to 85.05.

See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

Terry Hollands wrote:
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs
from 'pt' to 'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to
leave a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions
would be helpful. Thanks.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.-

--
Greg Maxey

See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Why would you suppose that I did not know that if you type a
measurement in a box, specifying a unit other than what the box is set
for, Word will substitute the value for which the box is set?

It seems a fairly basic bit of knowledge (found in the opening pages
of any basic Word book) that anyone who's dealt with any sort of
internationalization would be aware of.

On Nov 3, 5:55*am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Mr. Daniels,

As your post was not offered as help (in your own words), you have
disassociated yourself from any credit that Ms. Barnhill tried to give you
and "may "leave some in the group to wonder just why was it offered?

To remove all doubt as to appearances, Greg was not aware. *Still, he didn't
need your post to make him so. *Ms. Barnhill's post was good advice (again
your own words) and took care of that for both Greg and Terry.

Greg had not seen Ms. Barnhill or Stefan's postings (a slight altering of
your own words), *This gives the appearance that you had. *Since you didn't
post to help it appears that you were simply parroting what you had just
discovered yourself, thanks to Ms. Barnhill and Stephan, while pouring out
your scorn on more advanced features of Word that you don't understand or
choose to explore yourself. *Then unwittingly you use the information those
nails and hammers provide to confirm yourself that the conversion is as
close as Word can get.

The answer to the basic question is still no. *Whatever is successfully set
either in the field or programatically the unit of measure displayed is
still points.

Cheers.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Greg had not seen your and Stefan's postings, because the three of you
posted nearly simultaneously. My posting was not offered as help to
Terry, who got good advice from you and Stefan and less good advice
from Greg, who gave the appearance of being unaware that Word will
translate measures typed in a measurement box into other units without
the intervention of the user..

On Nov 2, 12:02 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
While Peter may have been able to see my post, it's quite likely
that those connnecting through the MS Communities cannot, so
repetition is not a bad idea.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Greg Maxey" wrote in
message

. ..

Mr. Daniels,

Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms. Barnhill's
reply posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously. I'll take my nails
and hammers over your empty box any day.

Cheers.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
....
Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as
close to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for
calculating the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.

On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Terry,

AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to
centimeters using
ToolsOptionsGeneralMeasurement units but this has no effect on
the units
used in space before or after.

Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to
points
using:

Sub GetPointEquivelent()
MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the
space before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could
also set it directly using:

Sub ScratchMaco()
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

But again Word rounds it to 85.05.

See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

Terry Hollands wrote:
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs
from 'pt' to 'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to
leave a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions
would be helpful. Thanks.

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

Mr. Daniels,

I don't mind answering your questions while you avoid mine. However, I'll
answer with another question. Why would I suppose you did? Given your
propensity to offer your opinion in areas where you are only marginally
familiar with subject, your silence on this subject until after three other
people had posted gave the appearance that you are not an expert in this one
and that you didn't know. As for books on the subject, there are books on
the subject of VBA (nails and hammers as you call it) as well, even beginner
books. Still I feel safe in supposing that you don't know much of anything
about that either.

Back to my question that you avoided. If you didn't post to help, then why
did you post? You have left those who "may" wonder to suppose that you
where simply continuing a fight that you picked with me almost two years
ago. I have no interest in fighting with you. I do seek a change in your
arrogant manner and behavior and I encourage you to apologize to the Word
community for the offenses you have given past and present.

Enough of all of that though. Your diatribe is not wasted and perhaps we
can all learn something. Word MVP Tony Jollans in separate correspondence
has graciously explained that the internal measurement unit within Word is a
unit called a "twip" which equals 1/20th of a point. So the, presumably
accurate (it too is rounded), 85.0397 is further rounded to 85.05 (85 and
one twentieth) points. This rounding, partly at least, explains why some
fine adjustments cannot be made, or appear not to 'take'.

Break

Terry,

While 3 cm can be entered directly into the field or set programmatically,
the display remains in points and the precise actual space can either be
spot on or something very close that Word works out internally based on its
measurement unit called a twip. If your student were someone else's student
he or she should now be armed to impress ;-)


--
Greg Maxey

See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
Why would you suppose that I did not know that if you type a
measurement in a box, specifying a unit other than what the box is set
for, Word will substitute the value for which the box is set?

It seems a fairly basic bit of knowledge (found in the opening pages
of any basic Word book) that anyone who's dealt with any sort of
internationalization would be aware of.

On Nov 3, 5:55 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Mr. Daniels,

As your post was not offered as help (in your own words), you have
disassociated yourself from any credit that Ms. Barnhill tried to give you
and "may "leave some in the group to wonder just why was it offered?

To remove all doubt as to appearances, Greg was not aware. Still, he
didn't
need your post to make him so. Ms. Barnhill's post was good advice (again
your own words) and took care of that for both Greg and Terry.

Greg had not seen Ms. Barnhill or Stefan's postings (a slight altering of
your own words), This gives the appearance that you had. Since you didn't
post to help it appears that you were simply parroting what you had just
discovered yourself, thanks to Ms. Barnhill and Stephan, while pouring out
your scorn on more advanced features of Word that you don't understand or
choose to explore yourself. Then unwittingly you use the information those
nails and hammers provide to confirm yourself that the conversion is as
close as Word can get.

The answer to the basic question is still no. Whatever is successfully set
either in the field or programatically the unit of measure displayed is
still points.

Cheers.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Greg had not seen your and Stefan's postings, because the three of you
posted nearly simultaneously. My posting was not offered as help to
Terry, who got good advice from you and Stefan and less good advice
from Greg, who gave the appearance of being unaware that Word will
translate measures typed in a measurement box into other units without
the intervention of the user..

On Nov 2, 12:02 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
While Peter may have been able to see my post, it's quite likely
that those connnecting through the MS Communities cannot, so
repetition is not a bad idea.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Greg Maxey" wrote in
message

. ..

Mr. Daniels,

Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms. Barnhill's
reply posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously. I'll take my nails
and hammers over your empty box any day.

Cheers.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as
close to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for
calculating the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.

On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Terry,

AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to
centimeters using
ToolsOptionsGeneralMeasurement units but this has no effect on
the units
used in space before or after.

Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to
points
using:

Sub GetPointEquivelent()
MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the
space before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could
also set it directly using:

Sub ScratchMaco()
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

But again Word rounds it to 85.05.

See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

Terry Hollands wrote:
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs
from 'pt' to 'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to
leave a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions
would be helpful. Thanks.

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Nov 3, 2:50*pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Mr. Daniels,

I don't mind answering your questions while you avoid mine. *However, I'll
answer with another question. Why would I suppose you did? Given your
propensity to offer your opinion in areas where you are only marginally
familiar with subject, your silence on this subject until after three other
people had posted

You are _really_ desperate for something to get nasty about, aren't
you! Terry's question was posted at 7:54 am, and the three responses
were posted at 8:15 and 8:16. (They probably became available to me
about 8:30.) On Mondays and Thursdays I have to leave the house by
8:15 to move the car for street cleaning, so I stop looking at
newsgroups around 7:45; and since it's bad for the engine to just
drive around the block, I do errands on those mornings. When I return,
I check the newsgroups to see if anything had been posted in the
previous two hours or so. On this occasion I came across Terry's
thread, which contained two nearly identical postings of the familiar
solution and one that suggested a rather baroque way of achieving the
same result that imposed a number of unnecessary steps on the user.
Since I had just withstood a spate of your usual abuse, I took the
opportunity to return -- not the abuse, but a response suggesting that
you take a bit of your own medicine and refrain from posting about
things you don't understand. (Though it does seem rather strange that
a supposed power user of Word didn't know that Word automatically
converts measurements.)

gave the appearance that you are not an expert in this one
and that you didn't know. *As for books on the subject, there are books on
the subject of VBA (nails and hammers as you call it) as well, even beginner
books. *Still I feel safe in supposing that you don't know much of anything
about that either.

Back to my question that you avoided. *If you didn't post to help, then why
did you post? *You have left those who "may" wonder to suppose that you
where simply continuing a fight that you picked with me almost two years
ago. *I have no interest in fighting with you. *I do seek a change in your
arrogant manner and behavior and I encourage you to apologize to the Word
community for the offenses you have given past and present.

When you say that you have no interest in fighting, you are simply
lying.

You stand poised over the newsgroup to pounce on any (usually
mistakenly) perceived error and reprint your boilerplate abuse.

Yet you do not post abuse against anyone else who makes a (perceived)
error.

Once again, you harp on what you perceived as "picking a fight" two
years ago. All that happened two years ago was that you posted a rude
remark in response to an innocent query, and I questioned whether it
was appropriate for someone in a position of authority (the position
granted by the initials "MVP" that you recently renounced) to be rude
to an innocent poster.

You apparently stewed over this for more than a year, bringing it up
in some other context, when it had long been forgotten by everyone but
yourself.

Grow up.

Enough of all of that though. *Your diatribe is not wasted and perhaps we
can all learn something. *Word MVP Tony Jollans in separate correspondence
has graciously explained that the internal measurement unit within Word is a
unit called a "twip" which equals 1/20th of a point. * So the, presumably
accurate (it too is rounded), 85.0397 is further rounded to 85.05 (85 and
one twentieth) points. *This rounding, partly at least, explains why some
fine adjustments cannot be made, or appear not to 'take'.

The fineness of measurement permitted by Word is very coarse in almost
every case -- point sizes in increments of .5, etc. Coming from
FrameMaker, where every measurement can be entered to three decimal
places, I found this crude indeed -- and in most cases, even two
decimal places are beyond Word's capacity.

Break

Terry,

While 3 cm can be entered directly into the field or set programmatically,
the display remains in points and the precise actual space can either be
spot on or something very close that Word works out internally based on its
measurement unit called a twip. *If your student were someone else's student
he or she should now be armed to impress ;-)

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ...
Why would you suppose that I did not know that if you type a
measurement in a box, specifying a unit other than what the box is set
for, Word will substitute the value for which the box is set?

It seems a fairly basic bit of knowledge (found in the opening pages
of any basic Word book) that anyone who's dealt with any sort of
internationalization would be aware of.

On Nov 3, 5:55 am, "Greg Maxey"



wrote:
Mr. Daniels,

As your post was not offered as help (in your own words), you have
disassociated yourself from any credit that Ms. Barnhill tried to give you
and "may "leave some in the group to wonder just why was it offered?

To remove all doubt as to appearances, Greg was not aware. Still, he
didn't
need your post to make him so. Ms. Barnhill's post was good advice (again
your own words) and took care of that for both Greg and Terry.

Greg had not seen Ms. Barnhill or Stefan's postings (a slight altering of
your own words), This gives the appearance that you had. Since you didn't
post to help it appears that you were simply parroting what you had just
discovered yourself, thanks to Ms. Barnhill and Stephan, while pouring out
your scorn on more advanced features of Word that you don't understand or
choose to explore yourself. Then unwittingly you use the information those
nails and hammers provide to confirm yourself that the conversion is as
close as Word can get.

The answer to the basic question is still no. Whatever is successfully set
either in the field or programatically the unit of measure displayed is
still points.

Cheers.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Greg had not seen your and Stefan's postings, because the three of you
posted nearly simultaneously. My posting was not offered as help to
Terry, who got good advice from you and Stefan and less good advice
from Greg, who gave the appearance of being unaware that Word will
translate measures typed in a measurement box into other units without
the intervention of the user..

On Nov 2, 12:02 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
While Peter may have been able to see my post, it's quite likely
that those connnecting through the MS Communities cannot, so
repetition is not a bad idea.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Greg Maxey" wrote in
message

. ..

Mr. Daniels,

Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms. Barnhill's
reply posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously. I'll take my nails
and hammers over your empty box any day.

Cheers.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as
close to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for
calculating the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.

On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Terry,

AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to
centimeters using
ToolsOptionsGeneralMeasurement units but this has no effect on
the units
used in space before or after.

Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to
points
using:

Sub GetPointEquivelent()
MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the
space before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could
also set it directly using:

Sub ScratchMaco()
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

But again Word rounds it to 85.05.

See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

Terry Hollands wrote:
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs
from 'pt' to 'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to
leave a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions
would be helpful. Thanks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

The only thing of substance that rises to the top of this childish tirade
and in a round about way is, "Yes, I was continuing a fight." Glad that is
cleared up.



Amongst the other white noise, including your rather boring Monday and
Thursday schedules, you whine about perceived abuses and fuss over why it is
only you that gets abused.



Read some of your own posts Mr. Daniels. Brace yourself though. The sense
of superiority and raw unbridled arrogance many of them contain may shake
you to your very hollow core. If you can stand them and if as you read, try
to imagine how your delivery is perceived by other people. If you do then
surely the fog will lift. You will see that the perceived abuse is not over
your errors or mistakes, but your manner and delivery. You will understand
why changing your behavior remains a worthwhile cause.



We have yet to hear from Terry, but in view of the discussion and replies to
his post, I have no doubt that typing "3 cm" in the UI is the answer for
what his student is trying to do. I concede that without whining or
protest.



Still, the answer to the question asked is no. Spacing before or after
paragraphs are displayed in points and set in twips. This is true
regardless which valid unit of measure is entered via the UI or set
programmatically. The hammers and nails illustrate the approximation and
Tony Jollans provided and explanation of the rounding.



I am now going to leave this particular field because I see no need to
remain. Up to this point you are doing a fantastic job of pointing out in
yourself the very arrogance and misbehavior that I often challenge. You are
spanking yourself so to speak. Next perhaps you will be arguing with
yourself and calling yourself names.



Cheers.


Peter T. Daniels wrote:
On Nov 3, 2:50 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Mr. Daniels,

I don't mind answering your questions while you avoid mine. However,
I'll
answer with another question. Why would I suppose you did? Given your
propensity to offer your opinion in areas where you are only
marginally
familiar with subject, your silence on this subject until after
three other
people had posted

You are _really_ desperate for something to get nasty about, aren't
you! Terry's question was posted at 7:54 am, and the three responses
were posted at 8:15 and 8:16. (They probably became available to me
about 8:30.) On Mondays and Thursdays I have to leave the house by
8:15 to move the car for street cleaning, so I stop looking at
newsgroups around 7:45; and since it's bad for the engine to just
drive around the block, I do errands on those mornings. When I return,
I check the newsgroups to see if anything had been posted in the
previous two hours or so. On this occasion I came across Terry's
thread, which contained two nearly identical postings of the familiar
solution and one that suggested a rather baroque way of achieving the
same result that imposed a number of unnecessary steps on the user.
Since I had just withstood a spate of your usual abuse, I took the
opportunity to return -- not the abuse, but a response suggesting that
you take a bit of your own medicine and refrain from posting about
things you don't understand. (Though it does seem rather strange that
a supposed power user of Word didn't know that Word automatically
converts measurements.)

gave the appearance that you are not an expert in this one
and that you didn't know. As for books on the subject, there are
books on
the subject of VBA (nails and hammers as you call it) as well, even
beginner
books. Still I feel safe in supposing that you don't know much of
anything
about that either.

Back to my question that you avoided. If you didn't post to help,
then why
did you post? You have left those who "may" wonder to suppose that
you
where simply continuing a fight that you picked with me almost two
years
ago. I have no interest in fighting with you. I do seek a change in
your
arrogant manner and behavior and I encourage you to apologize to the
Word
community for the offenses you have given past and present.

When you say that you have no interest in fighting, you are simply
lying.

You stand poised over the newsgroup to pounce on any (usually
mistakenly) perceived error and reprint your boilerplate abuse.

Yet you do not post abuse against anyone else who makes a (perceived)
error.

Once again, you harp on what you perceived as "picking a fight" two
years ago. All that happened two years ago was that you posted a rude
remark in response to an innocent query, and I questioned whether it
was appropriate for someone in a position of authority (the position
granted by the initials "MVP" that you recently renounced) to be rude
to an innocent poster.

You apparently stewed over this for more than a year, bringing it up
in some other context, when it had long been forgotten by everyone but
yourself.

Grow up.

Enough of all of that though. Your diatribe is not wasted and
perhaps we
can all learn something. Word MVP Tony Jollans in separate
correspondence
has graciously explained that the internal measurement unit within
Word is a
unit called a "twip" which equals 1/20th of a point. So the,
presumably
accurate (it too is rounded), 85.0397 is further rounded to 85.05
(85 and
one twentieth) points. This rounding, partly at least, explains why
some
fine adjustments cannot be made, or appear not to 'take'.

The fineness of measurement permitted by Word is very coarse in almost
every case -- point sizes in increments of .5, etc. Coming from
FrameMaker, where every measurement can be entered to three decimal
places, I found this crude indeed -- and in most cases, even two
decimal places are beyond Word's capacity.

Break

Terry,

While 3 cm can be entered directly into the field or set
programmatically,
the display remains in points and the precise actual space can
either be
spot on or something very close that Word works out internally based
on its
measurement unit called a twip. If your student were someone else's
student
he or she should now be armed to impress ;-)

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
...
Why would you suppose that I did not know that if you type a
measurement in a box, specifying a unit other than what the box is
set
for, Word will substitute the value for which the box is set?

It seems a fairly basic bit of knowledge (found in the opening pages
of any basic Word book) that anyone who's dealt with any sort of
internationalization would be aware of.

On Nov 3, 5:55 am, "Greg Maxey"



wrote:
Mr. Daniels,

As your post was not offered as help (in your own words), you have
disassociated yourself from any credit that Ms. Barnhill tried to
give you and "may "leave some in the group to wonder just why was
it offered?

To remove all doubt as to appearances, Greg was not aware. Still, he
didn't
need your post to make him so. Ms. Barnhill's post was good advice
(again your own words) and took care of that for both Greg and
Terry.

Greg had not seen Ms. Barnhill or Stefan's postings (a slight
altering of your own words), This gives the appearance that you
had. Since you didn't post to help it appears that you were simply
parroting what you had just discovered yourself, thanks to Ms.
Barnhill and Stephan, while pouring out your scorn on more advanced
features of Word that you don't understand or choose to explore
yourself. Then unwittingly you use the information those nails and
hammers provide to confirm yourself that the conversion is as close
as Word can get.

The answer to the basic question is still no. Whatever is
successfully set either in the field or programatically the unit of
measure displayed is still points.

Cheers.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Greg had not seen your and Stefan's postings, because the three of
you posted nearly simultaneously. My posting was not offered as
help to Terry, who got good advice from you and Stefan and less
good advice from Greg, who gave the appearance of being unaware
that Word will translate measures typed in a measurement box into
other units without the intervention of the user..

On Nov 2, 12:02 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:
While Peter may have been able to see my post, it's quite likely
that those connnecting through the MS Communities cannot, so
repetition is not a bad idea.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Greg Maxey" wrote in
message

...

Mr. Daniels,

Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms.
Barnhill's reply posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously. I'll
take my nails and hammers over your empty box any day.

Cheers.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as
close to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for
calculating the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.

On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Terry,

AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to
centimeters using
ToolsOptionsGeneralMeasurement units but this has no effect
on the units
used in space before or after.

Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert
cm to points
using:

Sub GetPointEquivelent()
MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into
the space before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You
could also set it directly using:

Sub ScratchMaco()
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
End Sub

But again Word rounds it to 85.05.

See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

Terry Hollands wrote:
Is it possible to change the spacing before and after
paragraphs from 'pt' to 'cm'?
I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to
leave a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions
would be helpful. Thanks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

--
Greg Maxey

See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.