[Jim Wood]

Earlier versions of Word had a Format/Picture option of changing an imported
color picture to grayscale or even 1-bit black-and-white. I have found most
of the other commands, but can't find this one. Is it there, or do photos
and scans have to be 'decolorized' before they are imported into Word?

[JoAnn Paules]

Right-click on the picture - Format picture - Picture - Recolor - Color
modes - the fist one is grayscale.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Jim Wood" wrote in message
...
Earlier versions of Word had a Format/Picture option of changing an
imported
color picture to grayscale or even 1-bit black-and-white. I have found
most
of the other commands, but can't find this one. Is it there, or do photos
and scans have to be 'decolorized' before they are imported into Word?

[Jim Wood]

Thanks, JoAnn,

That was easy! What I miss, however, is an indication of the change
having been done. Before you could click the photo, open the Format/Picture
box, and see that the color photo had been reset to grayscale. The grayscale
icon in Word '07 does not appear to be highlighted or otherwise indicate that
the clicked photo adheres to that option.

Jim

"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

Right-click on the picture - Format picture - Picture - Recolor - Color
modes - the fist one is grayscale.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Jim Wood" wrote in message
...
Earlier versions of Word had a Format/Picture option of changing an
imported
color picture to grayscale or even 1-bit black-and-white. I have found
most
of the other commands, but can't find this one. Is it there, or do photos
and scans have to be 'decolorized' before they are imported into Word?

[JoAnn Paules]

I'm not real sure what you mean. When I click on grayscale, the picture
changes immediately. I don't need an icon to tell me my graphic has changed
when I can see it for myself.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Jim Wood" wrote in message
...
Thanks, JoAnn,

That was easy! What I miss, however, is an indication of the change
having been done. Before you could click the photo, open the
Format/Picture
box, and see that the color photo had been reset to grayscale. The
grayscale
icon in Word '07 does not appear to be highlighted or otherwise indicate
that
the clicked photo adheres to that option.

Jim

"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

Right-click on the picture - Format picture - Picture - Recolor - Color
modes - the fist one is grayscale.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Jim Wood" wrote in message
...
Earlier versions of Word had a Format/Picture option of changing an
imported
color picture to grayscale or even 1-bit black-and-white. I have found
most
of the other commands, but can't find this one. Is it there, or do
photos
and scans have to be 'decolorized' before they are imported into Word?

[Jim Wood]

Yes, right you are. BUT... if I have a grayscale picture to begin with,
and scan it normally, it's imported into Word with all the 'color'
information intact, just as if it were a color shot to begin with. It sure
looks gray on the screen, but I'm nervous that the printshop will call and
say, "hey, is this a black and white job or not?" Perhaps I just don't
understand how Word saves pictures in its internal format, but I figured that
if a photo was converted to grayscale within Word, then it is saved as
grayscale and all the color information is gone.
I had this very problem with Publisher files that I saved as PDFs and
sent to a shop to make film positives for silkscreening. Some logos and line
drawings within Publisher were TIFs, and they sure looked like 1-bit black
and white images, but the shop called and insisted that there was either RGB
or CMYK data associated with them. I had to pull those images into an Adobe
program and re-save them as grayscale, even though they looked black and
white (only) to begin with. Then when I put them back into Publisher and
made a new PDF the film shop was happy. I don't know why they would complain
about color files when the film itself was monochromatic, but it gave their
output device fits.


"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

I'm not real sure what you mean. When I click on grayscale, the picture
changes immediately. I don't need an icon to tell me my graphic has changed
when I can see it for myself.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Jim Wood" wrote in message
...
Thanks, JoAnn,

That was easy! What I miss, however, is an indication of the change
having been done. Before you could click the photo, open the
Format/Picture
box, and see that the color photo had been reset to grayscale. The
grayscale
icon in Word '07 does not appear to be highlighted or otherwise indicate
that
the clicked photo adheres to that option.

Jim

"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

Right-click on the picture - Format picture - Picture - Recolor - Color
modes - the fist one is grayscale.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Jim Wood" wrote in message
...
Earlier versions of Word had a Format/Picture option of changing an
imported
color picture to grayscale or even 1-bit black-and-white. I have found
most
of the other commands, but can't find this one. Is it there, or do
photos
and scans have to be 'decolorized' before they are imported into Word?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

If you print a "color" B&W image to a color printer, the black will be
created as a composite of the inks in the color cartridge instead of black
ink. My commercial printer frequently complains about the camera-ready copy
he gets that is composite black. All my CRC is laser-printed, so that's not
an issue, but evidently it's quite a problem for printers using traditional
offset techniques, who have to shoot film.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Jim Wood" wrote in message
...
Yes, right you are. BUT... if I have a grayscale picture to begin
with,
and scan it normally, it's imported into Word with all the 'color'
information intact, just as if it were a color shot to begin with. It
sure
looks gray on the screen, but I'm nervous that the printshop will call and
say, "hey, is this a black and white job or not?" Perhaps I just don't
understand how Word saves pictures in its internal format, but I figured
that
if a photo was converted to grayscale within Word, then it is saved as
grayscale and all the color information is gone.
I had this very problem with Publisher files that I saved as PDFs and
sent to a shop to make film positives for silkscreening. Some logos and
line
drawings within Publisher were TIFs, and they sure looked like 1-bit black
and white images, but the shop called and insisted that there was either
RGB
or CMYK data associated with them. I had to pull those images into an
Adobe
program and re-save them as grayscale, even though they looked black and
white (only) to begin with. Then when I put them back into Publisher and
made a new PDF the film shop was happy. I don't know why they would
complain
about color files when the film itself was monochromatic, but it gave
their
output device fits.


"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

I'm not real sure what you mean. When I click on grayscale, the picture
changes immediately. I don't need an icon to tell me my graphic has
changed
when I can see it for myself.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Jim Wood" wrote in message
...
Thanks, JoAnn,

That was easy! What I miss, however, is an indication of the
change
having been done. Before you could click the photo, open the
Format/Picture
box, and see that the color photo had been reset to grayscale. The
grayscale
icon in Word '07 does not appear to be highlighted or otherwise
indicate
that
the clicked photo adheres to that option.

Jim

"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

Right-click on the picture - Format picture - Picture - Recolor -
Color
modes - the fist one is grayscale.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Jim Wood" wrote in message
...
Earlier versions of Word had a Format/Picture option of changing an
imported
color picture to grayscale or even 1-bit black-and-white. I have
found
most
of the other commands, but can't find this one. Is it there, or do
photos
and scans have to be 'decolorized' before they are imported into
Word?