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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
I have Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6 and Word 2000
My wife has saved a document in Word on a floppy disk using the 'Save As' heading as 'Jerusalem' and Files of Type as Word Document. It was saved in Times New Roman -Normal. Everything was fine until today when the document would not open. The Open page displays Doc.1 Jerusalem and the Files of type shows: Word Documents. When I try to open 'Jerusalem' I get the reminder ' Do you want to revert to the saved 'Jerusalem', yes or no, but whatever I choose it does not open. The .doc file and 'Jerusalem' shows in Windows Explorer and on 'My Computer', where 245,760 bytes is indicated. One thing I notice and which is very unusual to me: None of the 'Files of type' have any extensions on them. I have tested on a blank disk and everything works fine. Can you help please? Regards, Emrys Davies. |
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You should never save a Word document directly to a floppy or open one
directly from a floppy. Instead, copy the file to your hard drive and open it from there. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... I have Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6 and Word 2000 My wife has saved a document in Word on a floppy disk using the 'Save As' heading as 'Jerusalem' and Files of Type as Word Document. It was saved in Times New Roman -Normal. Everything was fine until today when the document would not open. The Open page displays Doc.1 Jerusalem and the Files of type shows: Word Documents. When I try to open 'Jerusalem' I get the reminder ' Do you want to revert to the saved 'Jerusalem', yes or no, but whatever I choose it does not open. The .doc file and 'Jerusalem' shows in Windows Explorer and on 'My Computer', where 245,760 bytes is indicated. One thing I notice and which is very unusual to me: None of the 'Files of type' have any extensions on them. I have tested on a blank disk and everything works fine. Can you help please? Regards, Emrys Davies. |
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
... You should never save a Word document directly to a floppy or open one directly from a floppy. Instead, copy the file to your hard drive and open it from there. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... I have Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6 and Word 2000 My wife has saved a document in Word on a floppy disk using the 'Save As' heading as 'Jerusalem' and Files of Type as Word Document. It was saved in Times New Roman -Normal. Everything was fine until today when the document would not open. The Open page displays Doc.1 Jerusalem and the Files of type shows: Word Documents. When I try to open 'Jerusalem' I get the reminder ' Do you want to revert to the saved 'Jerusalem', yes or no, but whatever I choose it does not open. The .doc file and 'Jerusalem' shows in Windows Explorer and on 'My Computer', where 245,760 bytes is indicated. One thing I notice and which is very unusual to me: None of the 'Files of type' have any extensions on them. I have tested on a blank disk and everything works fine. Can you help please? Regards, Emrys Davies. I copied the two files to my dard drive, but they will not open from there. |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
In which case it is already corrupt reinforcing the advice never to work
directly with a floppy disk (or any other removable media either). Try the Recover Text from any File Option (in the File Open dialog) and if that fails, try opening the doc in WordPad. -- Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You should never save a Word document directly to a floppy or open one directly from a floppy. Instead, copy the file to your hard drive and open it from there. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... I have Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6 and Word 2000 My wife has saved a document in Word on a floppy disk using the 'Save As' heading as 'Jerusalem' and Files of Type as Word Document. It was saved in Times New Roman -Normal. Everything was fine until today when the document would not open. The Open page displays Doc.1 Jerusalem and the Files of type shows: Word Documents. When I try to open 'Jerusalem' I get the reminder ' Do you want to revert to the saved 'Jerusalem', yes or no, but whatever I choose it does not open. The .doc file and 'Jerusalem' shows in Windows Explorer and on 'My Computer', where 245,760 bytes is indicated. One thing I notice and which is very unusual to me: None of the 'Files of type' have any extensions on them. I have tested on a blank disk and everything works fine. Can you help please? Regards, Emrys Davies. I copied the two files to my dard drive, but they will not open from there. |
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They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved directly to a
floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to extract the text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File" setting in the Open dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You should never save a Word document directly to a floppy or open one directly from a floppy. Instead, copy the file to your hard drive and open it from there. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... I have Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6 and Word 2000 My wife has saved a document in Word on a floppy disk using the 'Save As' heading as 'Jerusalem' and Files of Type as Word Document. It was saved in Times New Roman -Normal. Everything was fine until today when the document would not open. The Open page displays Doc.1 Jerusalem and the Files of type shows: Word Documents. When I try to open 'Jerusalem' I get the reminder ' Do you want to revert to the saved 'Jerusalem', yes or no, but whatever I choose it does not open. The .doc file and 'Jerusalem' shows in Windows Explorer and on 'My Computer', where 245,760 bytes is indicated. One thing I notice and which is very unusual to me: None of the 'Files of type' have any extensions on them. I have tested on a blank disk and everything works fine. Can you help please? Regards, Emrys Davies. I copied the two files to my dard drive, but they will not open from there. |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
Can you open the documents via the Open dialog box (File | Open)?
-- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You should never save a Word document directly to a floppy or open one directly from a floppy. Instead, copy the file to your hard drive and open it from there. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... I have Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6 and Word 2000 My wife has saved a document in Word on a floppy disk using the 'Save As' heading as 'Jerusalem' and Files of Type as Word Document. It was saved in Times New Roman -Normal. Everything was fine until today when the document would not open. The Open page displays Doc.1 Jerusalem and the Files of type shows: Word Documents. When I try to open 'Jerusalem' I get the reminder ' Do you want to revert to the saved 'Jerusalem', yes or no, but whatever I choose it does not open. The .doc file and 'Jerusalem' shows in Windows Explorer and on 'My Computer', where 245,760 bytes is indicated. One thing I notice and which is very unusual to me: None of the 'Files of type' have any extensions on them. I have tested on a blank disk and everything works fine. Can you help please? Regards, Emrys Davies. I copied the two files to my dard drive, but they will not open from there. |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
... In which case it is already corrupt reinforcing the advice never to work directly with a floppy disk (or any other removable media either). Try the Recover Text from any File Option (in the File Open dialog) and if that fails, try opening the doc in WordPad. -- Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You should never save a Word document directly to a floppy or open one directly from a floppy. Instead, copy the file to your hard drive and open it from there. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... I have Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6 and Word 2000 My wife has saved a document in Word on a floppy disk using the 'Save As' heading as 'Jerusalem' and Files of Type as Word Document. It was saved in Times New Roman -Normal. Everything was fine until today when the document would not open. The Open page displays Doc.1 Jerusalem and the Files of type shows: Word Documents. When I try to open 'Jerusalem' I get the reminder ' Do you want to revert to the saved 'Jerusalem', yes or no, but whatever I choose it does not open. The .doc file and 'Jerusalem' shows in Windows Explorer and on 'My Computer', where 245,760 bytes is indicated. One thing I notice and which is very unusual to me: None of the 'Files of type' have any extensions on them. I have tested on a blank disk and everything works fine. Can you help please? Regards, Emrys Davies. I copied the two files to my dard drive, but they will not open from there. Sadly, I cannot find WordPad. Tried Find files and folders but, although there are lots of references to it, I could not locate it. It is of course in the Start menu but that will not assist me in this case. Can someone walk me through opening a file on 'C' in Notepad. |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
To start WordPad: Start - All Programs - Accesxsories
-- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... Sadly, I cannot find WordPad. Tried Find files and folders but, although there are lots of references to it, I could not locate it. It is of course in the Start menu but that will not assist me in this case. Can someone walk me through opening a file on 'C' in Notepad. |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
... In which case it is already corrupt reinforcing the advice never to work directly with a floppy disk (or any other removable media either). Try the Recover Text from any File Option (in the File Open dialog) and if that fails, try opening the doc in WordPad. -- Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You should never save a Word document directly to a floppy or open one directly from a floppy. Instead, copy the file to your hard drive and open it from there. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... I have Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6 and Word 2000 My wife has saved a document in Word on a floppy disk using the 'Save As' heading as 'Jerusalem' and Files of Type as Word Document. It was saved in Times New Roman -Normal. Everything was fine until today when the document would not open. The Open page displays Doc.1 Jerusalem and the Files of type shows: Word Documents. When I try to open 'Jerusalem' I get the reminder ' Do you want to revert to the saved 'Jerusalem', yes or no, but whatever I choose it does not open. The .doc file and 'Jerusalem' shows in Windows Explorer and on 'My Computer', where 245,760 bytes is indicated. One thing I notice and which is very unusual to me: None of the 'Files of type' have any extensions on them. I have tested on a blank disk and everything works fine. Can you help please? Regards, Emrys Davies. I copied the two files to my dard drive, but they will not open from there. Would you be more explicit here please: "Try the Recover Text from any File Option (in the File Open dialog)" I think I know what you mean, but would like to be sure that I doing the right thing. I could not open the files in WordPad. I am learning fast, but I need quite basic instructions as I am a bit out of my depth here at the moment. Thanks a lot. Emrys Davies. |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
... "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... In which case it is already corrupt reinforcing the advice never to work directly with a floppy disk (or any other removable media either). Try the Recover Text from any File Option (in the File Open dialog) and if that fails, try opening the doc in WordPad. -- Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You should never save a Word document directly to a floppy or open one directly from a floppy. Instead, copy the file to your hard drive and open it from there. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... I have Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6 and Word 2000 My wife has saved a document in Word on a floppy disk using the 'Save As' heading as 'Jerusalem' and Files of Type as Word Document. It was saved in Times New Roman -Normal. Everything was fine until today when the document would not open. The Open page displays Doc.1 Jerusalem and the Files of type shows: Word Documents. When I try to open 'Jerusalem' I get the reminder ' Do you want to revert to the saved 'Jerusalem', yes or no, but whatever I choose it does not open. The .doc file and 'Jerusalem' shows in Windows Explorer and on 'My Computer', where 245,760 bytes is indicated. One thing I notice and which is very unusual to me: None of the 'Files of type' have any extensions on them. I have tested on a blank disk and everything works fine. Can you help please? Regards, Emrys Davies. I copied the two files to my dard drive, but they will not open from there. Would you be more explicit here please: "Try the Recover Text from any File Option (in the File Open dialog)" I think I know what you mean, but would like to be sure that I doing the right thing. I could not open the files in WordPad. I am learning fast, but I need quite basic instructions as I am a bit out of my depth here at the moment. Thanks a lot. Emrys Davies. Found that now: "Recover Text from any file" and working on it. Recovered some text which is somewhat jumbled, but I am getting there slowly. I think that the floppy is too corrupted, but not much has been lost. In any case most of the information, if not all, is on another floppy. Thanks, Emrys Davies. |
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Emrys Davies wrote:
Found that now: "Recover Text from any file" and working on it. Recovered some text which is somewhat jumbled, but I am getting there slowly. I think that the floppy is too corrupted, but not much has been lost. In any case most of the information, if not all, is on another floppy. Thanks, Emrys Davies. Don't even think of opening the document(s) directly from your backup floppy or that will corrupt also. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
... Can you open the documents via the Open dialog box (File | Open)? No, that failed, although some jumbled text was revealed. However, I have been able to recover the lost data from 'bits and pieces'. I have fully formatted the disk and it is working now that I am following the correct procedures as advised by the forum. I also have back-up engaged. Would you answer this question for me as it will help my learning curve. I now know (and am following religiously) that I must not save a Word document directly to a floppy and that if I use a floppy I must copy a file to it from where it is saved on the hard drive. If I do the latter, why is it now safe to open the file from the floppy, directly? Also, I did my Word studies some eight years ago and I cannot recall being given any anti corruption advice about floppy disks, although I did obtain City & Guilds in Word level 1 and 2, so that prompts me to ask, in the nicest possible way, if there has been a big learning curve re Word in the meantime. Thanks a lot Emrys Davies. |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
... In which case it is already corrupt reinforcing the advice never to work directly with a floppy disk (or any other removable media either). When you say "or any other removable media either" are you including a USB Flashdrive, as I used one of them to back-up my .dbx files. I made a folder on the Flash Drive and copied my Identity into it from Windows Folders. Or does your observation just relate to Word, only? Thanks, Emrys Davies. |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
This relates primarily to Word and covers (to some extent) *all* removable
media. You should not save directly to them nor open directly from them. Always work from the HD. There's even a setting on the Save tab of Tools | Options to "Make local copy of files stored on network or removable drives." -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... In which case it is already corrupt reinforcing the advice never to work directly with a floppy disk (or any other removable media either). When you say "or any other removable media either" are you including a USB Flashdrive, as I used one of them to back-up my .dbx files. I made a folder on the Flash Drive and copied my Identity into it from Windows Folders. Or does your observation just relate to Word, only? Thanks, Emrys Davies. |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
Never save directly to removable media - period.
-- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... In which case it is already corrupt reinforcing the advice never to work directly with a floppy disk (or any other removable media either). When you say "or any other removable media either" are you including a USB Flashdrive, as I used one of them to back-up my .dbx files. I made a folder on the Flash Drive and copied my Identity into it from Windows Folders. Or does your observation just relate to Word, only? Thanks, Emrys Davies. |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
The observation only relates to Word - though I would not reply solely on a
Flash Drive for anything that is mission critical as they are not invulnerable to corrupting or dying and the data does have a limited life. It would be better to back up to a CDR or DVDR and use verify to ensure they files are correctly written. Terry "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... In which case it is already corrupt reinforcing the advice never to work directly with a floppy disk (or any other removable media either). When you say "or any other removable media either" are you including a USB Flashdrive, as I used one of them to back-up my .dbx files. I made a folder on the Flash Drive and copied my Identity into it from Windows Folders. Or does your observation just relate to Word, only? Thanks, Emrys Davies. |
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Emrys Davies wrote:
"Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... In which case it is already corrupt reinforcing the advice never to work directly with a floppy disk (or any other removable media either). When you say "or any other removable media either" are you including a USB Flashdrive, as I used one of them to back-up my .dbx files. I made a folder on the Flash Drive and copied my Identity into it from Windows Folders. Or does your observation just relate to Word, only? Thanks, Emrys Davies. The advice is specific for Word (although there may be some other programs that behave similarly) and mostly for floppies (but with some caveats for other removable media). The big problem with Word and floppy disks comes from the way Word uses temporary files (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=211632). There are a number of temp files, some of them as large as the document itself, that Word must keep in the same folder as the original document. With the limited capacity of floppy disks, the total size of the document and its temp files can easily exceed that capacity. If that happens, Word behaves badly, and irretrievably corrupted documents are the result. On a USB drive or other gigabyte-or-larger removable media, this specific kind of problem is unlikely (although theoretically still possible, as it would also be on a nearly full hard drive). The danger here is that you may forget that you have a document open -- maybe in a minimized window -- and remove the drive. That, too, can result in a corrupted document. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
... They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved directly to a floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to extract the text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File" setting in the Open dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm Susanne, A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying. Other advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated. Just one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10 minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet for the likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your thoughts on that please? Thanks, Emrys Davies. |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
Why do you think this is a bad idea? The AutoRecovery backups are saved to
the HD regardless of the location of the file itself, and the more often they are made (up to a point), the better. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved directly to a floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to extract the text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File" setting in the Open dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm Susanne, A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying. Other advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated. Just one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10 minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet for the likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your thoughts on that please? Thanks, Emrys Davies. |
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"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
... "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Can you open the documents via the Open dialog box (File | Open)? No, that failed, although some jumbled text was revealed. However, I have been able to recover the lost data from 'bits and pieces'. I have fully formatted the disk and it is working now that I am following the correct procedures as advised by the forum. I also have back-up engaged. Would you answer this question for me as it will help my learning curve. I now know (and am following religiously) that I must not save a Word document directly to a floppy and that if I use a floppy I must copy a file to it from where it is saved on the hard drive. If I do the latter, why is it now safe to open the file from the floppy, directly? The reason why you should never open files from, or save files to, a floppy disk is that there isn't enough space for Word's temporary files on the floppy, which may cause corruption. However, you can still *copy* files to or from a floppy if you want to move it (even though USB sticks are safer, and can store a lot more data). Also, I did my Word studies some eight years ago and I cannot recall being given any anti corruption advice about floppy disks, although I did obtain City & Guilds in Word level 1 and 2, so that prompts me to ask, in the nicest possible way, if there has been a big learning curve re Word in the meantime. Eight years ago, floppy disks were pretty much what was available (to ordinary users, at least). I guess that explains why nobody warned for them... :-) Seriously speaking, files are more complex in recent versions of Word. They are also larger (this does not apply to files created in the new file formats of Office 2007, though). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP Thanks a lot Emrys Davies. |
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
... Why do you think this is a bad idea? The AutoRecovery backups are saved to the HD regardless of the location of the file itself, and the more often they are made (up to a point), the better. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved directly to a floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to extract the text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File" setting in the Open dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm Susanne, A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying. Other advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated. Just one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10 minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet for the likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your thoughts on that please? Thanks, Emrys Davies. Suzanne It was something I read somewhere as to the merits of AutoRecover and I just needed reassurance, which is what you have given me. Another point which is fooling me somewhat: I know that I must not save directly to a floppy from Word or open it directly from Word. I accept that, but if I attempt to open a floppy indirectly from Windows Explorer I do not have access to 'Files of type' which is such a useful tool when trying to ascertain which files are held on a floppy. I note that WordPad is limited in that respect. Would you advise me on that aspect please as this is totally new ground for me? Regards, Emrys Davies. |
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Cannot open floopy disk in Word
Well that is not quite accurate either Bob.
Windows Explorer has options to arrange the folder contents (in this case the floppy contents) in several different orders. The useful one in this instance would be to select the 'group by type' option which means that the docs will be grouped together. However, as a final bit of advice, I would quite soon move all your old files off floppy disks completely. Floppies are ancient technology, prone to corruption, prone to physical damage and slow. I don't believe that anyone sells computers fitted with floppy drives as standard any more either. Far better to burn the archives to CDR or DVDR (using the verification process) and use the burning utility to create covers that list the contents. -- Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP "CyberTaz" wrote in message .. . The options available in the Files of Type list vary depending on the capabilities of the program involved. A program like WordPad is quite limited in what file types it can open so the list is restricted to those types only. Word, OTOH, is capable of opening a wider range of file types so the list will be more extensive. Since Windows Explorer is simply a navigation tool provided by Windows - not an application program - it doesn't have a list of file types, per se. Instead, opening a file from an Explorer window causes the appropriate program to be launched based on the file's association with that program. HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 10/31/07 9:24 AM, in article , "Emrys Davies" wrote: "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Why do you think this is a bad idea? The AutoRecovery backups are saved to the HD regardless of the location of the file itself, and the more often they are made (up to a point), the better. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved directly to a floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to extract the text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File" setting in the Open dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm Susanne, A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying. Other advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated. Just one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10 minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet for the likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your thoughts on that please? Thanks, Emrys Davies. Suzanne It was something I read somewhere as to the merits of AutoRecover and I just needed reassurance, which is what you have given me. Another point which is fooling me somewhat: I know that I must not save directly to a floppy from Word or open it directly from Word. I accept that, but if I attempt to open a floppy indirectly from Windows Explorer I do not have access to 'Files of type' which is such a useful tool when trying to ascertain which files are held on a floppy. I note that WordPad is limited in that respect. Would you advise me on that aspect please as this is totally new ground for me? Regards, Emrys Davies. |
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Many thanks everyone. You have been very very helpful and it is much
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Hi Terry -
Please help me understand where the inaccuracy is. Although your suggestion is certainly helpful *sorting* the listed files by type isn't the same as *limiting* the list to display files of only a *certain* type... Which seemed to be what the OP was looking for and (AFAIK) can't be done in an Explorer window, whereas when using the Open or Save As dialog windows from within an application the Files of Type list does enable that constraint. Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 10/31/07 10:19 AM, in article , "Terry Farrell" wrote: Well that is not quite accurate either Bob. Windows Explorer has options to arrange the folder contents (in this case the floppy contents) in several different orders. The useful one in this instance would be to select the 'group by type' option which means that the docs will be grouped together. However, as a final bit of advice, I would quite soon move all your old files off floppy disks completely. Floppies are ancient technology, prone to corruption, prone to physical damage and slow. I don't believe that anyone sells computers fitted with floppy drives as standard any more either. Far better to burn the archives to CDR or DVDR (using the verification process) and use the burning utility to create covers that list the contents. |
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To add to what Bob and Terry have said, you don't want to open the file on
the floppy directly from Windows Explorer, either, as that amounts to the same thing as opening it from Word (since Word will start and open it). Instead, you need to use Windows Explorer to copy the file to the HD (to My Documents or an appropriate subfolder within), then open it from within Word. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Why do you think this is a bad idea? The AutoRecovery backups are saved to the HD regardless of the location of the file itself, and the more often they are made (up to a point), the better. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved directly to a floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to extract the text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File" setting in the Open dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm Susanne, A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying. Other advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated. Just one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10 minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet for the likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your thoughts on that please? Thanks, Emrys Davies. Suzanne It was something I read somewhere as to the merits of AutoRecover and I just needed reassurance, which is what you have given me. Another point which is fooling me somewhat: I know that I must not save directly to a floppy from Word or open it directly from Word. I accept that, but if I attempt to open a floppy indirectly from Windows Explorer I do not have access to 'Files of type' which is such a useful tool when trying to ascertain which files are held on a floppy. I note that WordPad is limited in that respect. Would you advise me on that aspect please as this is totally new ground for me? Regards, Emrys Davies. |
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Well it doesn't 'limit' to display only a file type, but by grouping it by
type, you can limit yourself to looking at just that one group of docs or dots - which is virtually the same thing. Terry "CyberTaz" wrote in message .. . Hi Terry - Please help me understand where the inaccuracy is. Although your suggestion is certainly helpful *sorting* the listed files by type isn't the same as *limiting* the list to display files of only a *certain* type... Which seemed to be what the OP was looking for and (AFAIK) can't be done in an Explorer window, whereas when using the Open or Save As dialog windows from within an application the Files of Type list does enable that constraint. Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 10/31/07 10:19 AM, in article , "Terry Farrell" wrote: Well that is not quite accurate either Bob. Windows Explorer has options to arrange the folder contents (in this case the floppy contents) in several different orders. The useful one in this instance would be to select the 'group by type' option which means that the docs will be grouped together. However, as a final bit of advice, I would quite soon move all your old files off floppy disks completely. Floppies are ancient technology, prone to corruption, prone to physical damage and slow. I don't believe that anyone sells computers fitted with floppy drives as standard any more either. Far better to burn the archives to CDR or DVDR (using the verification process) and use the burning utility to create covers that list the contents. |
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
... To add to what Bob and Terry have said, you don't want to open the file on the floppy directly from Windows Explorer, either, as that amounts to the same thing as opening it from Word (since Word will start and open it). Instead, you need to use Windows Explorer to copy the file to the HD (to My Documents or an appropriate subfolder within), then open it from within Word. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Why do you think this is a bad idea? The AutoRecovery backups are saved to the HD regardless of the location of the file itself, and the more often they are made (up to a point), the better. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved directly to a floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to extract the text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File" setting in the Open dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm Susanne, A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying. Other advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated. Just one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10 minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet for the likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your thoughts on that please? Thanks, Emrys Davies. Suzanne It was something I read somewhere as to the merits of AutoRecover and I just needed reassurance, which is what you have given me. Another point which is fooling me somewhat: I know that I must not save directly to a floppy from Word or open it directly from Word. I accept that, but if I attempt to open a floppy indirectly from Windows Explorer I do not have access to 'Files of type' which is such a useful tool when trying to ascertain which files are held on a floppy. I note that WordPad is limited in that respect. Would you advise me on that aspect please as this is totally new ground for me? Regards, Emrys Davies. Suzanne, You have made that so clear. Now, having done exactly what you have outlined, I take it that from within Word I can now open the file saved in My Documents and at the same time safely use the 'Files of type' menu, which prompted me to ask my question. Thanks, EmrysDavies. |
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Exactly.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... To add to what Bob and Terry have said, you don't want to open the file on the floppy directly from Windows Explorer, either, as that amounts to the same thing as opening it from Word (since Word will start and open it). Instead, you need to use Windows Explorer to copy the file to the HD (to My Documents or an appropriate subfolder within), then open it from within Word. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Why do you think this is a bad idea? The AutoRecovery backups are saved to the HD regardless of the location of the file itself, and the more often they are made (up to a point), the better. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... They may already be corrupted, then, by having been saved directly to a floppy, or by previous attempts at opening. You may be able to extract the text contents by using the "Recover Text from Any File" setting in the Open dialog. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm Susanne, A very relevant link, the contents of which I am still studying. Other advice is getting me there slowly and is very much appreciated. Just one point at the moment: I have 'Save AutoRecover info every 10 minutes' enabled and I am not sure that this is a good idea yet for the likes of myself and my wife, who I am helping. What are your thoughts on that please? Thanks, Emrys Davies. Suzanne It was something I read somewhere as to the merits of AutoRecover and I just needed reassurance, which is what you have given me. Another point which is fooling me somewhat: I know that I must not save directly to a floppy from Word or open it directly from Word. I accept that, but if I attempt to open a floppy indirectly from Windows Explorer I do not have access to 'Files of type' which is such a useful tool when trying to ascertain which files are held on a floppy. I note that WordPad is limited in that respect. Would you advise me on that aspect please as this is totally new ground for me? Regards, Emrys Davies. Suzanne, You have made that so clear. Now, having done exactly what you have outlined, I take it that from within Word I can now open the file saved in My Documents and at the same time safely use the 'Files of type' menu, which prompted me to ask my question. Thanks, EmrysDavies. |
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My parents are also encountering problems opening Word files on a new Vista
PC. These files were saved on a Windows 98 PC onto floppies using Word. What is strange though is that even in the Vista Windows Explorer, the files don't even show up! If they put the floppy in the Win98 PC, the files they've saved on the Vista PC don't show up, and vice versa. I have to say that they (and me too) have often saved files to floppy as a backup (or to take on the road) from inside Word and never had problems with them. I guess we've been lucky. But what I'm stumped with is that Vista doesn't seem to even see the files that were saved on the Win98 PC. Is there something different between the 2 operating systems that is causing this? Marie |
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Morettina wrote:
My parents are also encountering problems opening Word files on a new Vista PC. These files were saved on a Windows 98 PC onto floppies using Word. What is strange though is that even in the Vista Windows Explorer, the files don't even show up! If they put the floppy in the Win98 PC, the files they've saved on the Vista PC don't show up, and vice versa. I have to say that they (and me too) have often saved files to floppy as a backup (or to take on the road) from inside Word and never had problems with them. I guess we've been lucky. But what I'm stumped with is that Vista doesn't seem to even see the files that were saved on the Win98 PC. Is there something different between the 2 operating systems that is causing this? Marie I don't have Vista myself but Windows XP has the same problems. Apart from loose cables, defective floppy drives or misaligned floppy disks which are sure reasons to fail there maybe reasons by changes in XP and Vista. Firstly every floppy should have an ID byte (like F0 or F9) in the bootsector. This ID byte depends on the floppy size, it is F0 for an 1.44MB floppy. Not every program that formats floppies did enter the by XP and Vista now required ID byte that was ignored by Windows 98. This was especially many times the case with the commercially preformatted floppies many people bought in the past. Secondly the floppy driver inside Windows XP and Vista was redesigned to not accept all old floppy sizes for writing or sometimes also reading. Info from the MicroSoft Knowledge Base Article ID : 309623 Windows XP supports the following floppy disk formats: €¢ 1.44 megabyte (MB) 3.5" floppy disk (read, write, format) €¢ 720 kilobyte (KB) 3.5" floppy disk (read, write only) €¢ 1.2MB 5.25" floppy disk (read, write, format) €¢ 360KB 5.25" floppy disk (read, write, format) Article ID : 140060 The following table lists the most common media descriptor bytes: Byte Capacity Media Size and Type ------------------------------------------------- F0 2.88 MB 3.5-inch, 2-sided, 36-sector F0 1.44 MB 3.5-inch, 2-sided, 18-sector F9 720K 3.5-inch, 2-sided, 9-sector F9 1.2 MB 5.25-inch, 2-sided, 15-sector FD 360K 5.25-inch, 2-sided, 9-sector FF 320K 5.25-inch, 2-sided, 8-sector FC 180K 5.25-inch, 1-sided, 9-sector FE 160K 5.25-inch, 1-sided, 8-sector FE 250K 8-inch, 1-sided, single-density FD 500K 8-inch, 2-sided, single-density FE 1.2 MB 8-inch, 2-sided, double-density F8 ----- Hard disk Best is to try the floppy in a computer using Windows 98. If the floppy is readable transfer the data to a medium that works in Vista like an in Windows Vista formatted floppy or memory stick that also works in 98(SE?). |
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