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Connor
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be a minimum of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count sentences as well, I
would not have to do it manually.

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garfield-n-odie
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be a minimum of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count sentences as well, I
would not have to do it manually.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and without
spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what it does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the periods after
abbreviations.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"garfield-n-odie" wrote in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be a minimum

of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count sentences as

well, I
would not have to do it manually.

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suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the

"I
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Greg Maxey
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and Grammar and
check Show readability statistics. Consider the following:

Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs. Jones; you will have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and without
spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But if Word tried
to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it would
have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie" wrote in
message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be a
minimum

of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count sentences
as

well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
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Greg Maxey
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

Then with VBA I suppose you could use:

Sub CountSentences()
MsgBox ActiveDocument.ReadabilityStatistics(4).Value
'Instead of
MsgBox ActiveDocument.Sentences.Count
End Sub

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Greg Maxey wrote:
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and Grammar
and check Show readability statistics. Consider the following:

Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs. Jones; you will
have to ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2




Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and without
spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But if Word tried
to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it would
have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie" wrote in
message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be a
minimum

of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count sentences
as

well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
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the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
the

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

I suspected this might be available through the readability statistics, but
(short of VBA) there's no way to access those without checking grammar,
which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and Grammar and
check Show readability statistics. Consider the following:

Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs. Jones; you will have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and without
spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But if Word tried
to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it would
have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie" wrote in
message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be a
minimum

of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count sentences
as

well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
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the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
the

"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
follow

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and

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Jezebel
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability statistics, but
(short of VBA) there's no way to access those without checking grammar,
which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and Grammar and
check Show readability statistics. Consider the following:

Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs. Jones; you will have
to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and without
spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But if Word tried
to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it would
have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie" wrote in
message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be a
minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count sentences
as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
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the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
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Greg Maxey
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the following:

Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs. Jones; you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But if Word
tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it would
have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie" wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be a
minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
follow
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and
then
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Jezebel
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy piece of logic;
abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your example -- are always
going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the following:

Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs. Jones; you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But if Word
tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it would
have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie" wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be a
minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.



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Greg Maxey
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

It is less problematic if you refer back and use one of the other methods
recommended in this discussion.

Sub CountSentences()
MsgBox ActiveDocument.ReadabilityStatistics(4).Value
'Instead of
MsgBox ActiveDocument.Sentences.Count
End Sub




--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy piece of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your example -- are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs. Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie" wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.



http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t





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Greg Maxey
 
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While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and that simply
Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to abbreviations in
general and that Mister should be used in the example to avoid confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy piece of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your example -- are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs. Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie" wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.



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Jezebel
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

The former.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and that
simply Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to abbreviations
in general and that Mister should be used in the example to avoid
confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy piece of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your example --
are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs. Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie" wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.



http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t





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Greg Maxey
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

In either case the example isn't problematic using :

MsgBox ActiveDocument.ReadabilityStatistics(4).Value


--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
The former.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following "Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't
necessary and that simply Mr will do or is it tied to your greater
aversion to
abbreviations in general and that Mister should be used in the example to
avoid
confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy piece
of logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your example
--
are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs.
Jones; you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what
it does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"
wrote in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need
for you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to
be a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
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responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
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Jezebel
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

No argument there.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
In either case the example isn't problematic using :

MsgBox ActiveDocument.ReadabilityStatistics(4).Value


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See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
The former.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following "Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't
necessary and that simply Mr will do or is it tied to your greater
aversion to
abbreviations in general and that Mister should be used in the example
to avoid
confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy piece
of logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your example
--
are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs.
Jones; you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what
it does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"
wrote in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need
for you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to
be a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft
responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.



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Tony Jollans
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK English Mr
(without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with the period) is
normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and that

simply
Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to abbreviations in
general and that Mister should be used in the example to avoid confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy piece of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your example --

are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs. Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie" wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.




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Jezebel
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK English Mr
(without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with the period) is
normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and that

simply
Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to abbreviations in
general and that Mister should be used in the example to avoid confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy piece of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your example --

are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs.
Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie" wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.




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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr." is an
abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK English

Mr
(without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with the period) is
normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and that

simply
Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to abbreviations in
general and that Mister should be used in the example to avoid

confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy piece of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your

example --
are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs.
Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what

it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"

wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need

for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft

responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.





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Jezebel
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

As in

Fairhope, Alabama U.S.A.
Word M.V.P. F.A.Q.


?





"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr." is an
abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK English

Mr
(without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with the period) is
normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and that
simply
Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to abbreviations in
general and that Mister should be used in the example to avoid

confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy piece
of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your

example --
are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs.
Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences. But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is what

it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"

wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need

for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to
be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft

responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.





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Greg Maxey
 
Posts: n/a
Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

Actually Tony didn't say it was good. He said UK usage without the period
is good and U.S. usage with the period (in the U.S.) is normal. That
clarified, I really don't know what point Jezebel was trying to make.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr." is
an abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.


"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK
English Mr (without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with
the period) is normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and
that simply Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to
abbreviations in general and that Mister should be used in the
example to avoid confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy
piece of logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in
your example -- are always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs.
Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences.
But if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is
what

it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes
the periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"

wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need

for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has
to be a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft

responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this
suggestion, click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.





http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...id=37c24710-01
ad-499c-a8ce-b6568d51597c&dg=microsoft.public.word.docmanagemen t



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Jezebel
 
Posts: n/a
Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

It's not a point. It's a period.



"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Actually Tony didn't say it was good. He said UK usage without the period
is good and U.S. usage with the period (in the U.S.) is normal. That
clarified, I really don't know what point Jezebel was trying to make.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr." is
an abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.


"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK
English Mr (without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with
the period) is normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and
that simply Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to
abbreviations in general and that Mister should be used in the
example to avoid confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy
piece of logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in
your example -- are always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs.
Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences.
But if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is
what

it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes
the periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"

wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need

for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has
to be a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

If the abbreviation were MR and pronounced as separate letters rather than
"Mister," I might be more inclined to agree with you.

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Words into Type
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"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
As in

Fairhope, Alabama U.S.A.
Word M.V.P. F.A.Q.


?





"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr." is an
abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

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"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK

English
Mr
(without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with the period)

is
normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and that
simply
Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to abbreviations

in
general and that Mister should be used in the example to avoid

confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy piece
of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your

example --
are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs.
Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences.

But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is

what
it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes

the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"

wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need

for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has to
be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft

responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this

suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
button, follow
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Jezebel
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

And you don't use periods for e.g. and i.e. ?




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
If the abbreviation were MR and pronounced as separate letters rather than
"Mister," I might be more inclined to agree with you.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
As in

Fairhope, Alabama U.S.A.
Word M.V.P. F.A.Q.


?





"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr." is
an
abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
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all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK

English
Mr
(without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with the period)

is
normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and
that
simply
Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to abbreviations

in
general and that Mister should be used in the example to avoid
confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy
piece
of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your
example --
are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs.
Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with
and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences.

But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because
it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is

what
it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes

the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"
wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no
need
for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has
to
be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft
responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this

suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.






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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

I do use periods for e.g. and i.e., but they are not capitalized.

--
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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
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"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
And you don't use periods for e.g. and i.e. ?




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
If the abbreviation were MR and pronounced as separate letters rather

than
"Mister," I might be more inclined to agree with you.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
As in

Fairhope, Alabama U.S.A.
Word M.V.P. F.A.Q.

?





"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr." is
an
abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK

English
Mr
(without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with the

period)
is
normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and
that
simply
Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to

abbreviations
in
general and that Mister should be used in the example to avoid
confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy
piece
of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your
example --
are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access

those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling

and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider

the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know

Mrs.
Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with
and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences.

But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because
it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is

what
it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes

the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"


wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no
need
for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has
to
be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft
responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this

suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.







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Jezebel
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

So you wouldn't use periods if they occurred in an all caps context?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I do use periods for e.g. and i.e., but they are not capitalized.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
And you don't use periods for e.g. and i.e. ?




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
If the abbreviation were MR and pronounced as separate letters rather

than
"Mister," I might be more inclined to agree with you.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
As in

Fairhope, Alabama U.S.A.
Word M.V.P. F.A.Q.

?





"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr."
is
an
abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK
English
Mr
(without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with the

period)
is
normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and
that
simply
Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to

abbreviations
in
general and that Mister should be used in the example to avoid
confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy
piece
of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your
example --
are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access

those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling

and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider

the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know

Mrs.
Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with
and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not
sentences.
But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied
because
it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is
what
it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this
includes
the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"


wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no
need
for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it
has
to
be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could
count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft
responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this
suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see
the
button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.







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Charles Kenyon
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

i.e. and e.g. are abbreviations for Latin phrases, which, I've forgotten, I
think.
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I do use periods for e.g. and i.e., but they are not capitalized.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
And you don't use periods for e.g. and i.e. ?




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
If the abbreviation were MR and pronounced as separate letters rather

than
"Mister," I might be more inclined to agree with you.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
As in

Fairhope, Alabama U.S.A.
Word M.V.P. F.A.Q.

?





"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr."
is
an
abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK
English
Mr
(without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with the

period)
is
normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and
that
simply
Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to

abbreviations
in
general and that Mister should be used in the example to avoid
confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy
piece
of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your
example --
are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access

those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
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all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling

and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider

the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know

Mrs.
Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with
and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not
sentences.
But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied
because
it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is
what
it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this
includes
the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"


wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no
need
for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it
has
to
be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could
count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
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Tony Jollans
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

I'm hesitant to weigh in again but here goes ..

Technically Mr (an abbreviation) should probably have a full stop / period;
it is acceptable, but not normal, in UK usage - I believe it is normal in US
usage.

USA, MVP, FAQ, etc. are acronyms and do not normally have full stops in
either UK or US usage AFAIK. Because they are in upper case they are
distinguishable from words.

e.g., i.e., etc. in lower case have full stops to distinguish them from
words - if nothing else it helps the spellchecker

There aren't any hard and fast rules. We have a living language (or two).

Word's readability statistics seem to be able to handle all this. Word's
sentence count is not so good (but doesn't simply count full stops).

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Actually Tony didn't say it was good. He said UK usage without the period
is good and U.S. usage with the period (in the U.S.) is normal. That
clarified, I really don't know what point Jezebel was trying to make.

--
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See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr." is
an abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.


"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK
English Mr (without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with
the period) is normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and
that simply Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to
abbreviations in general and that Mister should be used in the
example to avoid confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy
piece of logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in
your example -- are always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know Mrs.
Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not sentences.
But if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is
what

it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes
the periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"

wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no need

for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has
to be a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft

responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this
suggestion, click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
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Graham Mayor
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

I am old enough to have been taught English, in the UK, when grammar and
written English form was considered important. A full stop (period in the
US) to denote an abbreviation, was always considered correct; thus Mr. would
have been used *with* a full stop. General sloppiness has crept into English
usage and as our education system now couldn't seem to care less, either
appears equally acceptable,


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Tony Jollans wrote:
I'm hesitant to weigh in again but here goes ..

Technically Mr (an abbreviation) should probably have a full stop /
period; it is acceptable, but not normal, in UK usage - I believe it
is normal in US usage.

USA, MVP, FAQ, etc. are acronyms and do not normally have full stops
in either UK or US usage AFAIK. Because they are in upper case they
are distinguishable from words.

e.g., i.e., etc. in lower case have full stops to distinguish them
from words - if nothing else it helps the spellchecker

There aren't any hard and fast rules. We have a living language (or
two).

Word's readability statistics seem to be able to handle all this.
Word's sentence count is not so good (but doesn't simply count full
stops).


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Actually Tony didn't say it was good. He said UK usage without the
period is good and U.S. usage with the period (in the U.S.) is
normal. That clarified, I really don't know what point Jezebel was
trying to make.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr."
is an abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.


"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK
English Mr (without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr.
(with the period) is normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and
that simply Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to
abbreviations in general and that Mister should be used in the
example to avoid confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy
piece of logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in
your example -- are always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know
Mrs. Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with
and without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not
sentences. But if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because
it would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is
what
it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes
the periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"
wrote in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no
need for you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has
to be a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
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responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this
suggestion, click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
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Jezebel
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

The use of punctuation around abbreviations is a matter of typography, not
grammar. The 'rules' of typography -- like those of grammar and
punctuation -- change continuously. Just have a look at a New Yorker from
the days of Ross and Thurber (or even the early Dr Seuss books) to see how
much has changed.




"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
I am old enough to have been taught English, in the UK, when grammar and
written English form was considered important. A full stop (period in the
US) to denote an abbreviation, was always considered correct; thus Mr.
would have been used *with* a full stop. General sloppiness has crept into
English usage and as our education system now couldn't seem to care less,
either appears equally acceptable,


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Tony Jollans wrote:
I'm hesitant to weigh in again but here goes ..

Technically Mr (an abbreviation) should probably have a full stop /
period; it is acceptable, but not normal, in UK usage - I believe it
is normal in US usage.

USA, MVP, FAQ, etc. are acronyms and do not normally have full stops
in either UK or US usage AFAIK. Because they are in upper case they
are distinguishable from words.

e.g., i.e., etc. in lower case have full stops to distinguish them
from words - if nothing else it helps the spellchecker

There aren't any hard and fast rules. We have a living language (or
two).

Word's readability statistics seem to be able to handle all this.
Word's sentence count is not so good (but doesn't simply count full
stops).


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Actually Tony didn't say it was good. He said UK usage without the
period is good and U.S. usage with the period (in the U.S.) is
normal. That clarified, I really don't know what point Jezebel was
trying to make.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr."
is an abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.


"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK
English Mr (without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr.
(with the period) is normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and
that simply Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to
abbreviations in general and that Mister should be used in the
example to avoid confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy
piece of logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in
your example -- are always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know
Mrs. Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with
and without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not
sentences. But if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because
it would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is
what
it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes
the periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"
wrote in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no
need for you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has
to be a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
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responds to the
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suggestion, click the
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Jezebel
 
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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

id est and exempli gratia



"Charles Kenyon" wrote in
message ...
i.e. and e.g. are abbreviations for Latin phrases, which, I've forgotten,
I think.
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I do use periods for e.g. and i.e., but they are not capitalized.

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Words into Type
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"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
And you don't use periods for e.g. and i.e. ?




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
If the abbreviation were MR and pronounced as separate letters rather

than
"Mister," I might be more inclined to agree with you.

--
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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
As in

Fairhope, Alabama U.S.A.
Word M.V.P. F.A.Q.

?





"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr."
is
an
abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in
message
...
I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK
English
Mr
(without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr. (with the

period)
is
normal.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the
period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and
that
simply
Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to

abbreviations
in
general and that Mister should be used in the example to avoid
confusion?

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy
piece
of
logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in your
example --
are
always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I suspected this might be available through the
readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access

those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling

and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider

the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know

Mrs.
Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters
(with
and
without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not
sentences.
But
if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied
because
it
would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which
is
what
it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this
includes
the
periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"


wrote
in message
...
This feature already exists within Word, so there is no
need
for
you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it
has
to
be
a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could
count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft
responds
to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this
suggestion,
click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see
the
button, follow
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Precisely. The UK has moved ahead of the US in this respect. Another
difference: in the UK, abbreviations pronounced as words (acronyms), such as
Aids, have initial caps only. Here we tend to keep them as all caps until
they become true words (the original unabbreviated form almost forgotten),
such as scuba and radar.

It is certainly true that a plethora of periods (full stops) is
messy-looking. It is for this reason that I avoid abbreviations entirely
when possible (though I'm often thwarted by AP style, which converts all
written-out state names to abbreviations). I will not dispute that UK usage
looks "cleaner." But until it becomes much more common in the US, it will
continue to look "wrong" to me.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
The use of punctuation around abbreviations is a matter of typography, not
grammar. The 'rules' of typography -- like those of grammar and
punctuation -- change continuously. Just have a look at a New Yorker from
the days of Ross and Thurber (or even the early Dr Seuss books) to see how
much has changed.




"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
I am old enough to have been taught English, in the UK, when grammar and
written English form was considered important. A full stop (period in the
US) to denote an abbreviation, was always considered correct; thus Mr.
would have been used *with* a full stop. General sloppiness has crept

into
English usage and as our education system now couldn't seem to care less,
either appears equally acceptable,


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Tony Jollans wrote:
I'm hesitant to weigh in again but here goes ..

Technically Mr (an abbreviation) should probably have a full stop /
period; it is acceptable, but not normal, in UK usage - I believe it
is normal in US usage.

USA, MVP, FAQ, etc. are acronyms and do not normally have full stops
in either UK or US usage AFAIK. Because they are in upper case they
are distinguishable from words.

e.g., i.e., etc. in lower case have full stops to distinguish them
from words - if nothing else it helps the spellchecker

There aren't any hard and fast rules. We have a living language (or
two).

Word's readability statistics seem to be able to handle all this.
Word's sentence count is not so good (but doesn't simply count full
stops).


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
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Actually Tony didn't say it was good. He said UK usage without the
period is good and U.S. usage with the period (in the U.S.) is
normal. That clarified, I really don't know what point Jezebel was
trying to make.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
"Good" in this case can be defined as "what you're used to." "Mr."
is an abbreviation; as such, we USians believe it needs a period.


"Jezebel" wrote in message
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It might be normal. That doesn't make it good.


"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
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I think this is a difference in English vs.American usage. In UK
English Mr (without the full stop) is good; in US English Mr.
(with the period) is normal.

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Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
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While slightly off subject, what is superfluous about the period
following
"Mr" in my example? Are you saying that it isn't necessary and
that simply Mr will do or is it tied to your greater aversion to
abbreviations in general and that Mister should be used in the
example to avoid confusion?

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Jezebel wrote:
Word's estimate of sentences is necessarily a somewhat fuzzy
piece of logic; abbreviations -- or superfluous periods, as in
your example -- are always going to be problematic.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
That doesn't work so well Jezebel.

Consider:

How did Mr. Smith get to Washington?

That is not two sentences.

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Jezebel wrote:
It is VBA, but all it takes in a macro is

msgbox("Sentences = " & activedocument.Sentences.Count)




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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I suspected this might be available through the readability
statistics, but (short of VBA) there's no way to access those
without checking grammar, which is a huge PITA.

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"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Look at readability statistics. ToolsOptionsSpelling and
Grammar and check Show readability statistics. Consider the
following: Did Mr. Smith go to Washington? I don't know
Mrs. Jones;
you will
have to
ask Mr. Smith.


ToolsSpelling and Grammar.

Words: 18
Characters: 71
Paragraphs: 1
Sentences: 2



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Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Does it? Word Count counts pages, words, characters (with
and without spaces), paragraphs, and lines, but not
sentences. But if Word tried to
count sentences, most users would not be satisfied because
it would have to
count anything ending in a period as a sentence, which is
what
it
does when
you use Ctrl+click to select a sentence, and this includes
the periods after
abbreviations.


"garfield-n-odie"
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This feature already exists within Word, so there is no
need for you to suggest it to Microsoft.

Connor wrote:

When i do my weekly composition for seventh grade it has
to be a minimum
of
fifteen sentences. If the word count feature could count
sentences as
well, I
would not have to do it manually.

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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

For what it is worth, Word (the word processor that has brought us all
together in this discussion) considers "Mr." correct (with English U.S.
set as the language) and Mr or MR correct with (English U.K. set as the
language). In an effort to assuage a widening rift, can we agree that
either an be completely correct dependent on the users chosen language?

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Default Word's word count feature should be able to count sentences also

Well, that is what I have maintained from the outset.

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oups.com...
For what it is worth, Word (the word processor that has brought us all
together in this discussion) considers "Mr." correct (with English U.S.
set as the language) and Mr or MR correct with (English U.K. set as the
language). In an effort to assuage a widening rift, can we agree that
either an be completely correct dependent on the users chosen language?


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