[James_h1023]

Within the in-built citation feature of word you can bibliography citation
style except in my institution i am to use the harvard referencing system,
but can't find any extra styles on the web. Any suggestions?

[Bohemian Piano]

Just use the APA style, as it uses the Harvard Style anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style

"James_h1023" wrote:

Within the in-built citation feature of word you can bibliography citation
style except in my institution i am to use the harvard referencing system,
but can't find any extra styles on the web. Any suggestions?

[Alive]

This answer is not helpful. The Harvard style used at my university differs
in *very* important ways from the APA style. Using it would result in lost
marks for incorrect references.

APA != the Harvard style required by many universities.

[Zifanite]

I agree with you. It says they're the same but i have to use Harvard (for the
few assignments where i need to do references) and my girlfriend has to use
APA yet they're different. They may be similar but they are not the same.

"Alive" wrote:

This answer is not helpful. The Harvard style used at my university differs
in *very* important ways from the APA style. Using it would result in lost
marks for incorrect references.

APA != the Harvard style required by many universities.

[PamC via OfficeKB.com]

I don't initiate bibliographies myself, but I do recall reading this article
on the Office Word 2007 team's blog:

http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...ions-1011.aspx


If you are using W2007 and know a little HTML, perhaps it can help.

PamC


Zifanite wrote:
I agree with you. It says they're the same but i have to use Harvard (for the
few assignments where i need to do references) and my girlfriend has to use
APA yet they're different. They may be similar but they are not the same.

This answer is not helpful. The Harvard style used at my university differs
in *very* important ways from the APA style. Using it would result in lost
marks for incorrect references.

APA != the Harvard style required by many universities.

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[Malvasia]

This answer is wrong,

APA from the American Psychological Association
and Harvard style from Harvard University

look very much the same, but slight differences exist with regards to commas
or brackets.

"Bohemian Piano" wrote:

Just use the APA style, as it uses the Harvard Style anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style

[grammatim[_2_]]

American editors/publishers do not know of a "Harvard style." What
reference book do you consult to get the details of "Harvard style"?

On Aug 18, 1:36 pm, Malvasia
wrote:
This answer is wrong,

APA from the American Psychological Association
and Harvard style from Harvard University

look very much the same, but slight differences exist with regards to commas
or brackets.

"Bohemian Piano" wrote:
Just use the APA style, as it uses the Harvard Style anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style

[Malvasia]

Its generally any author-date style, so a form of APA, but has ridiculous
differences

e.g. : Klombers, N. (Ed.). (1993, Spring). versus Klombers, N. (Editor).
(1993).

http://www.infosecsa.co.za/Reference_Techniques.pdf


"grammatim" wrote:

American editors/publishers do not know of a "Harvard style." What
reference book do you consult to get the details of "Harvard style"?

On Aug 18, 1:36 pm, Malvasia
wrote:
This answer is wrong,

APA from the American Psychological Association
and Harvard style from Harvard University

look very much the same, but slight differences exist with regards to commas
or brackets.

"Bohemian Piano" wrote:
Just use the APA style, as it uses the Harvard Style anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style

[grammatim[_2_]]

It looks like APA with slight improvements in the direction of
Chicago. Note that the only referenced sources are from South Africa
and the UK, so we're no closer to Harvard University or its Press.

On Aug 18, 7:29 pm, Malvasia
wrote:
Its generally any author-date style, so a form of APA, but has ridiculous
differences

e.g. : Klombers, N. (Ed.). (1993, Spring). versus Klombers, N. (Editor).
(1993).

http://www.infosecsa.co.za/Reference_Techniques.pdf

"grammatim" wrote:
American editors/publishers do not know of a "Harvard style." What
reference book do you consult to get the details of "Harvard style"?

On Aug 18, 1:36 pm, Malvasia
wrote:
This answer is wrong,

APA from the American Psychological Association
and Harvard style from Harvard University

look very much the same, but slight differences exist with regards to commas
or brackets.

"Bohemian Piano" wrote:
Just use the APA style, as it uses the Harvard Style anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I think that's the biggest mystery: why it's called "Harvard." Wikipedia
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parenthetical_referencing) says:

According to an 1896 paper on bibliography by Charles Sedgwick Minot of the
Harvard Medical School, the origin of the author-date style is attributed to
a paper by Edward Laurens Mark, Hersey professor of anatomy and director of
the zoological laboratory at Harvard University, who may have copied it from
the cataloguing system used then and now by the library of Harvard's Museum
of Comparative Zoology (Chernin 1988). In 1881, Mark wrote a paper on the
embryogenesis of the garden slug, in which he included an author-date
citation in parentheses on page 194, the first known instance of such a
reference (Mark 1881, p.194). Until then, according to Eli Chernin writing
in the British Medical Journal, references had appeared in inconsistent
styles in footnotes, referred to in the text using a variety of printers'
symbols, including asterisks and daggers (Chernin 1988).

Chernin writes that a 1903 festschrift dedicated to Mark by 140 students,
including Theodore Roosevelt, confirms that the author-date system is
attributable to Mark. The festschrift pays tribute to Mark's 1881 paper,
writing that it "introduced into zoology a proper fullness and accuracy of
citation and a convenient and uniform method of referring from text to
bibliography." (Chernin 1988). According to an editorial note in the British
Medical Journal in 1945, an unconfirmed anecdote is that the term "Harvard
system" was introduced by an English visitor to Harvard University library,
who was impressed by the citation system, and dubbed it "Harvard system"
upon his return to England (Chernin 1988).

A strange feature of the 'Harvard system' is that according to Harvard's own
Widener Library, "The Harvard system is something of a misnomer (Bourneuf
n.d.)". In the UK and some of the Commonwealth of Nations, formerly the
British Commonwealth, the name 'Harvard System' is widely used, but not in
the university after which it is named. It has been said by a professor at
Harvard that "It sounds like what we call the Social Science System".

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
It looks like APA with slight improvements in the direction of
Chicago. Note that the only referenced sources are from South Africa
and the UK, so we're no closer to Harvard University or its Press.

On Aug 18, 7:29 pm, Malvasia
wrote:
Its generally any author-date style, so a form of APA, but has ridiculous
differences

e.g. : Klombers, N. (Ed.). (1993, Spring). versus Klombers, N. (Editor).
(1993).

http://www.infosecsa.co.za/Reference_Techniques.pdf

"grammatim" wrote:
American editors/publishers do not know of a "Harvard style." What
reference book do you consult to get the details of "Harvard style"?

On Aug 18, 1:36 pm, Malvasia
wrote:
This answer is wrong,

APA from the American Psychological Association
and Harvard style from Harvard University

look very much the same, but slight differences exist with regards to
commas
or brackets.

"Bohemian Piano" wrote:
Just use the APA style, as it uses the Harvard Style anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style

[Brad 1975]

Details of the Harvard system can be found he

http://library.leeds.ac.uk/info/2002...ions_explained


"grammatim" wrote:

American editors/publishers do not know of a "Harvard style." What
reference book do you consult to get the details of "Harvard style"?

On Aug 18, 1:36 pm, Malvasia
wrote:
This answer is wrong,

APA from the American Psychological Association
and Harvard style from Harvard University

look very much the same, but slight differences exist with regards to commas
or brackets.

"Bohemian Piano" wrote:
Just use the APA style, as it uses the Harvard Style anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style

[p0]

Hi Brad,

the link you provide are details of A Harvard system, not of THE
Harvard system as THE Harvard system does not exist. Some examples:

1)University of Leeds: http://library.leeds.ac.uk/info/2002...ions_explained

- authors should be displayed using capital letters;
- there should be a period between authors and year.

Example: FLETCHER, F.K. and J. COOPER. 2003. Citing your sources.
Liverpool: Lyme Printworks.

2)Anglia Ruskin University: http://libweb.anglia.ac.uk/referencing/harvard.htm

- authors should NOT be displayed using capital letters only;
- there should be a COMMA between authors and year.

Example: Barker, R. Kirk, J. & Munday, R.J., 1988. Narrative analysis.
3rd ed. Bloomington: Indiana University Press.

3)University of Exeter: http://education.exeter.ac.uk/dll/st...eferencing.PDF

- authors should NOT be displayed using capital letters only;
- the year should be between round brackets.

Example: McCarthy, P. and Hatcher, C. (1996) Speaking persuasively:
Making the most of your presentations, Sydney: Allen and Unwin.


Yves
--
http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography

On 9 nov, 09:44, Brad 1975 wrote:
Details of the Harvard system can be found he

http://library.leeds.ac.uk/info/2002...erences_and_ci...



"grammatim" wrote:
American editors/publishers do not know of a "Harvard style." What
reference book do you consult to get the details of "Harvard style"?

On Aug 18, 1:36 pm, Malvasia
wrote:
This answer is wrong,

APA from the American Psychological Association
and Harvard style from Harvard University

look very much the same, but slight differences exist with regards to commas
or brackets.

"Bohemian Piano" wrote:
Just use the APA style, as it uses the Harvard Style anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style

[JGraham]

"p0" wrote:

Hi Brad,

the link you provide are details of A Harvard system, not of THE
Harvard system as THE Harvard system does not exist. Some examples:

1)University of Leeds: http://library.leeds.ac.uk/info/2002...ions_explained

- authors should be displayed using capital letters;
- there should be a period between authors and year.

Example: FLETCHER, F.K. and J. COOPER. 2003. Citing your sources.
Liverpool: Lyme Printworks.

2)Anglia Ruskin University: http://libweb.anglia.ac.uk/referencing/harvard.htm

- authors should NOT be displayed using capital letters only;
- there should be a COMMA between authors and year.

Example: Barker, R. Kirk, J. & Munday, R.J., 1988. Narrative analysis.
3rd ed. Bloomington: Indiana University Press.

3)University of Exeter: http://education.exeter.ac.uk/dll/st...eferencing.PDF

- authors should NOT be displayed using capital letters only;
- the year should be between round brackets.

Example: McCarthy, P. and Hatcher, C. (1996) Speaking persuasively:
Making the most of your presentations, Sydney: Allen and Unwin.


Yves
--
http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography

On 9 nov, 09:44, Brad 1975 wrote:
Details of the Harvard system can be found he

http://library.leeds.ac.uk/info/2002...erences_and_ci...



"grammatim" wrote:
American editors/publishers do not know of a "Harvard style." What
reference book do you consult to get the details of "Harvard style"?

On Aug 18, 1:36 pm, Malvasia
wrote:
This answer is wrong,

APA from the American Psychological Association
and Harvard style from Harvard University

look very much the same, but slight differences exist with regards to commas
or brackets.

"Bohemian Piano" wrote:
Just use the APA style, as it uses the Harvard Style anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style

One of the most comprehensive groups of documents on Harvard Referencing is to be found at http://home.ched.coventry.ac.uk/caw/harvard/. Most UK universities who do not have their own description refer to this site.

[Meg]

"James_h1023" wrote:

Within the in-built citation feature of word you can bibliography citation
style except in my institution i am to use the harvard referencing system,
but can't find any extra styles on the web. Any suggestions?

[Meg]

most universities or educational institutions have examples of referencing
styles available through their student services or lecturers. i have to use
harvard as well and find it most annoying that this style is not available in
word. harvard is very different to APA

"James_h1023" wrote:

Within the in-built citation feature of word you can bibliography citation
style except in my institution i am to use the harvard referencing system,
but can't find any extra styles on the web. Any suggestions?

[p0]

As mentioned before in this topic, Harvard referencing is not uniquely
defined. You can find (partial) implementations for the versions used
by Leeds University and Anglia Rushkin University at
http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...x?title=Styles

If non of those two styles fit your needs but you require only little
changes to one (name in upper or lower case, ...) you might want to
check out the help file (http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography/Release/
ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=20305) or leave a message at the
discussion forum of the project.

But what you really should do is go/write to the head librarian of
your institution and tell him/her to develop a stylesheet for Word
which fits their requirements.

Yves
--
http://bibliography.codeplex.com

On 7 jan, 07:27, meg wrote:
most universities or educational institutions have examples of referencing
styles available through their student services or lecturers. i have to use
harvard as well and find it most annoying that this style is not available in
word. harvard is very different to APA



"James_h1023" wrote:
Within the in-built citation feature of word you can bibliography citation
style except in my institution i am to use the harvard referencing system,
but can't find any extra styles on the web. *Any suggestions?

[Brett]

You might find this link useful:

http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eleaseId=15852

It contains custom built Harvard referencing for Word - depending on your UK
or ZA university.

"meg" wrote:

most universities or educational institutions have examples of referencing
styles available through their student services or lecturers. i have to use
harvard as well and find it most annoying that this style is not available in
word. harvard is very different to APA

"James_h1023" wrote:

Within the in-built citation feature of word you can bibliography citation
style except in my institution i am to use the harvard referencing system,
but can't find any extra styles on the web. Any suggestions?