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Overprinting in folded booklet
I have a 24-page folded booklet (six 8.5 x 11 sheets) that was originally
created in Word 2003. It 'ported over' to my new Vista machine and Word 2007 just fine, and I continued to make changes in the document. I saved it as both a .doc and .docx format, and on the screen there seems to be no difference between the two, either in the Print Layout mode, where is where I type, or in the Print Preview mode. But when I go to print, the .docx has several facing pages where text or images hop over to the other side of the sheet, overpringint onto what's already there. This happens whether I print with my HP ink jet or with one of three different PDF (virtual) printers. The .doc, saved like a Word 2003 document, prints just fine, and both versions look identical in the Print Preview mode. It's just the .docx that actually prints incorrectly. Is there something in the .docx that 'looks' different to the printers? I'd love to get to the bottom of this, as I have several similar booklets created in Word 2003. Fortunately, if they are kept as .doc files, everything is fine. |
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This is a known problem with no known cause, and the only solution is the
one you have already discovered: to save in Word 97-2003 .doc format. It would be nice to think that MS is furiously working on a fix, but problems that have a workaround (and don't crash the app or cause loss of data) rarely command much attention or resources. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jim Wood" wrote in message ... I have a 24-page folded booklet (six 8.5 x 11 sheets) that was originally created in Word 2003. It 'ported over' to my new Vista machine and Word 2007 just fine, and I continued to make changes in the document. I saved it as both a .doc and .docx format, and on the screen there seems to be no difference between the two, either in the Print Layout mode, where is where I type, or in the Print Preview mode. But when I go to print, the .docx has several facing pages where text or images hop over to the other side of the sheet, overpringint onto what's already there. This happens whether I print with my HP ink jet or with one of three different PDF (virtual) printers. The .doc, saved like a Word 2003 document, prints just fine, and both versions look identical in the Print Preview mode. It's just the .docx that actually prints incorrectly. Is there something in the .docx that 'looks' different to the printers? I'd love to get to the bottom of this, as I have several similar booklets created in Word 2003. Fortunately, if they are kept as .doc files, everything is fine. |
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Thanks, Suzanne;
In a way it's a comfort to know that it's not "something I did". Jim "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This is a known problem with no known cause, and the only solution is the one you have already discovered: to save in Word 97-2003 .doc format. It would be nice to think that MS is furiously working on a fix, but problems that have a workaround (and don't crash the app or cause loss of data) rarely command much attention or resources. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jim Wood" wrote in message ... I have a 24-page folded booklet (six 8.5 x 11 sheets) that was originally created in Word 2003. It 'ported over' to my new Vista machine and Word 2007 just fine, and I continued to make changes in the document. I saved it as both a .doc and .docx format, and on the screen there seems to be no difference between the two, either in the Print Layout mode, where is where I type, or in the Print Preview mode. But when I go to print, the .docx has several facing pages where text or images hop over to the other side of the sheet, overpringint onto what's already there. This happens whether I print with my HP ink jet or with one of three different PDF (virtual) printers. The .doc, saved like a Word 2003 document, prints just fine, and both versions look identical in the Print Preview mode. It's just the .docx that actually prints incorrectly. Is there something in the .docx that 'looks' different to the printers? I'd love to get to the bottom of this, as I have several similar booklets created in Word 2003. Fortunately, if they are kept as .doc files, everything is fine. |
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I can imagine that this would be really frustrating if your booklet involved
any of the new Word 2007 features or art. Another workaround that might work is the general one for printing specific pages of a booklet: In a copy of the "Book fold" document, change the "Multiple pages" setting from "Book fold" to "2 pages per sheet." Then enter the numbers of the specific pages needed (in the requisite order) in the Pages box in the Print dialog. For example, to print the outside pages of a 24-page booklet, you'd enter "24,1" or (if duplexing) "24,1,2,23" (without the quotation marks). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jim Wood" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne; In a way it's a comfort to know that it's not "something I did". Jim "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This is a known problem with no known cause, and the only solution is the one you have already discovered: to save in Word 97-2003 .doc format. It would be nice to think that MS is furiously working on a fix, but problems that have a workaround (and don't crash the app or cause loss of data) rarely command much attention or resources. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jim Wood" wrote in message ... I have a 24-page folded booklet (six 8.5 x 11 sheets) that was originally created in Word 2003. It 'ported over' to my new Vista machine and Word 2007 just fine, and I continued to make changes in the document. I saved it as both a .doc and .docx format, and on the screen there seems to be no difference between the two, either in the Print Layout mode, where is where I type, or in the Print Preview mode. But when I go to print, the .docx has several facing pages where text or images hop over to the other side of the sheet, overpringint onto what's already there. This happens whether I print with my HP ink jet or with one of three different PDF (virtual) printers. The .doc, saved like a Word 2003 document, prints just fine, and both versions look identical in the Preview mode. It's just the .docx that actually prints incorrectly. Is there something in the .docx that 'looks' different to the printers? I'd love to get to the bottom of this, as I have several similar booklets created in Word 2003. Fortunately, if they are kept as .doc files, everything is fine. |
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Well, I tried that and still get overprinting with certain pages. One
requiremet is to be able to print 2 pages per sheet for a "reading" PDF to be included on a software installation disc. Printed from a .docx, both book fold and 2-per still overprint. It does seem that certain pages cause the problem, however; If page 15 is printed with any other page, it will be overprinted; that is, 'suck in' the material off the facing page. The pages that give problems seem to be those with photos or illustrations, but not all pages with illustrations do this. I wonder why the problem does not show up in Print Preview. Must have to do with embedded commands to the printer, and shouldn't be hard to find and fix. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I can imagine that this would be really frustrating if your booklet involved any of the new Word 2007 features or art. Another workaround that might work is the general one for printing specific pages of a booklet: In a copy of the "Book fold" document, change the "Multiple pages" setting from "Book fold" to "2 pages per sheet." Then enter the numbers of the specific pages needed (in the requisite order) in the Pages box in the Print dialog. For example, to print the outside pages of a 24-page booklet, you'd enter "24,1" or (if duplexing) "24,1,2,23" (without the quotation marks). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jim Wood" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne; In a way it's a comfort to know that it's not "something I did". Jim "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This is a known problem with no known cause, and the only solution is the one you have already discovered: to save in Word 97-2003 .doc format. It would be nice to think that MS is furiously working on a fix, but problems that have a workaround (and don't crash the app or cause loss of data) rarely command much attention or resources. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jim Wood" wrote in message ... I have a 24-page folded booklet (six 8.5 x 11 sheets) that was originally created in Word 2003. It 'ported over' to my new Vista machine and Word 2007 just fine, and I continued to make changes in the document. I saved it as both a .doc and .docx format, and on the screen there seems to be no difference between the two, either in the Print Layout mode, where is where I type, or in the Print Preview mode. But when I go to print, the .docx has several facing pages where text or images hop over to the other side of the sheet, overpringint onto what's already there. This happens whether I print with my HP ink jet or with one of three different PDF (virtual) printers. The .doc, saved like a Word 2003 document, prints just fine, and both versions look identical in the Preview mode. It's just the .docx that actually prints incorrectly. Is there something in the .docx that 'looks' different to the printers? I'd love to get to the bottom of this, as I have several similar booklets created in Word 2003. Fortunately, if they are kept as .doc files, everything is fine. |
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As I understand it, the pictures that migrate (or get "sucked" onto facing
pages) are wrapped rather than inline. If you can figure out a way to make the graphics inline (or even try putting them wrapped frames or table cells instead of wrapping them directly), that might be a partial solution. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jim Wood" wrote in message news Well, I tried that and still get overprinting with certain pages. One requiremet is to be able to print 2 pages per sheet for a "reading" PDF to be included on a software installation disc. Printed from a .docx, both book fold and 2-per still overprint. It does seem that certain pages cause the problem, however; If page 15 is printed with any other page, it will be overprinted; that is, 'suck in' the material off the facing page. The pages that give problems seem to be those with photos or illustrations, but not all pages with illustrations do this. I wonder why the problem does not show up in Print Preview. Must have to do with embedded commands to the printer, and shouldn't be hard to find and fix. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I can imagine that this would be really frustrating if your booklet involved any of the new Word 2007 features or art. Another workaround that might work is the general one for printing specific pages of a booklet: In a copy of the "Book fold" document, change the "Multiple pages" setting from "Book fold" to "2 pages per sheet." Then enter the numbers of the specific pages needed (in the requisite order) in the Pages box in the Print dialog. For example, to print the outside pages of a 24-page booklet, you'd enter "24,1" or (if duplexing) "24,1,2,23" (without the quotation marks). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jim Wood" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne; In a way it's a comfort to know that it's not "something I did". Jim "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This is a known problem with no known cause, and the only solution is the one you have already discovered: to save in Word 97-2003 .doc format. It would be nice to think that MS is furiously working on a fix, but problems that have a workaround (and don't crash the app or cause loss of data) rarely command much attention or resources. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jim Wood" wrote in message ... I have a 24-page folded booklet (six 8.5 x 11 sheets) that was originally created in Word 2003. It 'ported over' to my new Vista machine and Word 2007 just fine, and I continued to make changes in the document. I saved it as both a .doc and .docx format, and on the screen there seems to be no difference between the two, either in the Print Layout mode, where is where I type, or in the Print Preview mode. But when I go to print, the .docx has several facing pages where text or images hop over to the other side of the sheet, overpringint onto what's already there. This happens whether I print with my HP ink jet or with one of three different PDF (virtual) printers. The .doc, saved like a Word 2003 document, prints just fine, and both versions look identical in the Preview mode. It's just the .docx that actually prints incorrectly. Is there something in the .docx that 'looks' different to the printers? I'd love to get to the bottom of this, as I have several similar booklets created in Word 2003. Fortunately, if they are kept as .doc files, everything is fine. |
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Yes, that's right. I took your suggestion and changed all illustrations that
are one column wide to 'in line.' That worked; they stayed put. Then I made 2-column tables for the others. I lost the ability to wrap text around the picture; the column of text just goes straight down until it finishes, leaving blank space under the picture. I tried printing that and it still messed up. I would really like to understand this, and of course find some way of fixing it, but at this point feel that I should simply save the file as a ..doc for printing and get on with the job. I can continue to edit in the 2007 mode, using and learning the new features, and then just do a Save As at the end to print. Too bad there isn't a way to build a fire under the developers to get this sorted out. Cajoles and threats, perhaps? Many thanks for your help and attention. Jim "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: As I understand it, the pictures that migrate (or get "sucked" onto facing pages) are wrapped rather than inline. If you can figure out a way to make the graphics inline (or even try putting them wrapped frames or table cells instead of wrapping them directly), that might be a partial solution. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jim Wood" wrote in message news Well, I tried that and still get overprinting with certain pages. One requiremet is to be able to print 2 pages per sheet for a "reading" PDF to be included on a software installation disc. Printed from a .docx, both book fold and 2-per still overprint. It does seem that certain pages cause the problem, however; If page 15 is printed with any other page, it will be overprinted; that is, 'suck in' the material off the facing page. The pages that give problems seem to be those with photos or illustrations, but not all pages with illustrations do this. I wonder why the problem does not show up in Print Preview. Must have to do with embedded commands to the printer, and shouldn't be hard to find and fix. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I can imagine that this would be really frustrating if your booklet involved any of the new Word 2007 features or art. Another workaround that might work is the general one for printing specific pages of a booklet: In a copy of the "Book fold" document, change the "Multiple pages" setting from "Book fold" to "2 pages per sheet." Then enter the numbers of the specific pages needed (in the requisite order) in the Pages box in the Print dialog. For example, to print the outside pages of a 24-page booklet, you'd enter "24,1" or (if duplexing) "24,1,2,23" (without the quotation marks). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jim Wood" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne; In a way it's a comfort to know that it's not "something I did". Jim "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This is a known problem with no known cause, and the only solution is the one you have already discovered: to save in Word 97-2003 .doc format. It would be nice to think that MS is furiously working on a fix, but problems that have a workaround (and don't crash the app or cause loss of data) rarely command much attention or resources. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Jim Wood" wrote in message ... I have a 24-page folded booklet (six 8.5 x 11 sheets) that was originally created in Word 2003. It 'ported over' to my new Vista machine and Word 2007 just fine, and I continued to make changes in the document. I saved it as both a .doc and .docx format, and on the screen there seems to be no difference between the two, either in the Print Layout mode, where is where I type, or in the Print Preview mode. But when I go to print, the .docx has several facing pages where text or images hop over to the other side of the sheet, overpringint onto what's already there. This happens whether I print with my HP ink jet or with one of three different PDF (virtual) printers. The .doc, saved like a Word 2003 document, prints just fine, and both versions look identical in the Preview mode. It's just the .docx that actually prints incorrectly. Is there something in the .docx that 'looks' different to the printers? I'd love to get to the bottom of this, as I have several similar booklets created in Word 2003. Fortunately, if they are kept as .doc files, everything is fine. |
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