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Starter Questions on Masters and Subs
Hi all,
I am currenlty trying to create my first Master document and I would like some clarification on a few things. 1. Do all files, master and subs, have to be in the same folder? And can that folder be on SharePoint? If they can be on SharePoint, do I have to create the master by linking to SharePoint? 2. What is with the continuous section break after each document that is inserted? Is there a way to get rid of that? And if you manage to do so, when you go and edit the sub document, will it return to mess of the format of your master again? I realize these are basic questions and apprecaite a quick answer if possible. Thanks -- Harley |
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You may want to reconsder using thus feature.
Why Master Documents corrupt: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ocsCorrupt.htm How to recover a Master Document: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...MasterDocs.htm Steve Hudson [Word Heretic] on how to make Master Documents work safely: http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...dhomepage.html -- tj "Harley" wrote: Hi all, I am currenlty trying to create my first Master document and I would like some clarification on a few things. 1. Do all files, master and subs, have to be in the same folder? And can that folder be on SharePoint? If they can be on SharePoint, do I have to create the master by linking to SharePoint? 2. What is with the continuous section break after each document that is inserted? Is there a way to get rid of that? And if you manage to do so, when you go and edit the sub document, will it return to mess of the format of your master again? I realize these are basic questions and apprecaite a quick answer if possible. Thanks -- Harley |
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Thanks but that didn't answer my question. I understand there are concerns
using masters and subs for most people. I am instructed to make them work, so I am just wondering if anyone could answer my questions for me to give me a little help. As for the links, thanks...I will read them when I can. Just kind of on a tight deadline and need help quickly. thanks, -- Harley "tjtjjtjt" wrote: You may want to reconsder using thus feature. Why Master Documents corrupt: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ocsCorrupt.htm How to recover a Master Document: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...MasterDocs.htm Steve Hudson [Word Heretic] on how to make Master Documents work safely: http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...dhomepage.html -- tj "Harley" wrote: Hi all, I am currenlty trying to create my first Master document and I would like some clarification on a few things. 1. Do all files, master and subs, have to be in the same folder? And can that folder be on SharePoint? If they can be on SharePoint, do I have to create the master by linking to SharePoint? 2. What is with the continuous section break after each document that is inserted? Is there a way to get rid of that? And if you manage to do so, when you go and edit the sub document, will it return to mess of the format of your master again? I realize these are basic questions and apprecaite a quick answer if possible. Thanks -- Harley |
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Sorry, I don't have an answer because I don't use Master Documents. However,
you may need the reason I don't more than you need an answer. "Master Document" is a term of art in Word referring to a "feature" that not only doesn't work but also destroys documents. The consensus (with the limited exception of Steve Hudson) among those offering advice on these newsgroups is that using the Master Document feature is a good way to destroy your document. It can destroy parts of your document that you are not even working on! I think John McGhie said it succinctly when he said that there are two kinds of Master Documents: Those that are corrupt and those that will be corrupt soon. See http://www.addbalance.com/word/masterdocuments.htm for information on the Master Document feature and workarounds. See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ocsCorrupt.htm for more information on what goes wrong, and http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...MasterDocs.htm for ideas on how to salvage what you can. See http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...masterdocs.doc for Steve Hudson's instructions if you are willing to follow them very carefully. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Harley" wrote in message ... Hi all, I am currenlty trying to create my first Master document and I would like some clarification on a few things. 1. Do all files, master and subs, have to be in the same folder? And can that folder be on SharePoint? If they can be on SharePoint, do I have to create the master by linking to SharePoint? 2. What is with the continuous section break after each document that is inserted? Is there a way to get rid of that? And if you manage to do so, when you go and edit the sub document, will it return to mess of the format of your master again? I realize these are basic questions and apprecaite a quick answer if possible. Thanks -- Harley |
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It is not just that _some_ people have difficulties with this feature, it is
that the feature is flawed and will destroy your documents unless handled with much more care than is usual in an office environment. Read Steve Hudson's material before doing anything else, regardless of your deadline. http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...masterdocs.doc Otherwise you will be working on building a catastrophe! -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Harley" wrote in message news Thanks but that didn't answer my question. I understand there are concerns using masters and subs for most people. I am instructed to make them work, so I am just wondering if anyone could answer my questions for me to give me a little help. As for the links, thanks...I will read them when I can. Just kind of on a tight deadline and need help quickly. thanks, -- Harley "tjtjjtjt" wrote: You may want to reconsder using thus feature. Why Master Documents corrupt: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ocsCorrupt.htm How to recover a Master Document: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...MasterDocs.htm Steve Hudson [Word Heretic] on how to make Master Documents work safely: http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...dhomepage.html -- tj "Harley" wrote: Hi all, I am currenlty trying to create my first Master document and I would like some clarification on a few things. 1. Do all files, master and subs, have to be in the same folder? And can that folder be on SharePoint? If they can be on SharePoint, do I have to create the master by linking to SharePoint? 2. What is with the continuous section break after each document that is inserted? Is there a way to get rid of that? And if you manage to do so, when you go and edit the sub document, will it return to mess of the format of your master again? I realize these are basic questions and apprecaite a quick answer if possible. Thanks -- Harley |
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Thanks for the responses even though they did not answer my question. All
your warnings will be taken into consideration. However, if you do not use Master Documents, then are you simply taking the word of people who may not be using them correctly? How can only one person know how to use them correctly to the point of no corruption yet everyone else can't? I am willing to at least give it a try and see what happens. If my document gets corrupted, then it gets corrupted. If not, then I have a great document to reference. As for getting answers to my original questions, I guess I will have to figure it out on my own. -- Harley "Charles Kenyon" wrote: Sorry, I don't have an answer because I don't use Master Documents. However, you may need the reason I don't more than you need an answer. "Master Document" is a term of art in Word referring to a "feature" that not only doesn't work but also destroys documents. The consensus (with the limited exception of Steve Hudson) among those offering advice on these newsgroups is that using the Master Document feature is a good way to destroy your document. It can destroy parts of your document that you are not even working on! I think John McGhie said it succinctly when he said that there are two kinds of Master Documents: Those that are corrupt and those that will be corrupt soon. See http://www.addbalance.com/word/masterdocuments.htm for information on the Master Document feature and workarounds. See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ocsCorrupt.htm for more information on what goes wrong, and http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...MasterDocs.htm for ideas on how to salvage what you can. See http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...masterdocs.doc for Steve Hudson's instructions if you are willing to follow them very carefully. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Harley" wrote in message ... Hi all, I am currenlty trying to create my first Master document and I would like some clarification on a few things. 1. Do all files, master and subs, have to be in the same folder? And can that folder be on SharePoint? If they can be on SharePoint, do I have to create the master by linking to SharePoint? 2. What is with the continuous section break after each document that is inserted? Is there a way to get rid of that? And if you manage to do so, when you go and edit the sub document, will it return to mess of the format of your master again? I realize these are basic questions and apprecaite a quick answer if possible. Thanks -- Harley |
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Have you read Steve Hudson's page? I suspect it does answer your questions.
-- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Harley" wrote in message ... Thanks for the responses even though they did not answer my question. All your warnings will be taken into consideration. However, if you do not use Master Documents, then are you simply taking the word of people who may not be using them correctly? How can only one person know how to use them correctly to the point of no corruption yet everyone else can't? I am willing to at least give it a try and see what happens. If my document gets corrupted, then it gets corrupted. If not, then I have a great document to reference. As for getting answers to my original questions, I guess I will have to figure it out on my own. -- Harley "Charles Kenyon" wrote: Sorry, I don't have an answer because I don't use Master Documents. However, you may need the reason I don't more than you need an answer. "Master Document" is a term of art in Word referring to a "feature" that not only doesn't work but also destroys documents. The consensus (with the limited exception of Steve Hudson) among those offering advice on these newsgroups is that using the Master Document feature is a good way to destroy your document. It can destroy parts of your document that you are not even working on! I think John McGhie said it succinctly when he said that there are two kinds of Master Documents: Those that are corrupt and those that will be corrupt soon. See http://www.addbalance.com/word/masterdocuments.htm for information on the Master Document feature and workarounds. See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ocsCorrupt.htm for more information on what goes wrong, and http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...MasterDocs.htm for ideas on how to salvage what you can. See http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...masterdocs.doc for Steve Hudson's instructions if you are willing to follow them very carefully. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Harley" wrote in message ... Hi all, I am currenlty trying to create my first Master document and I would like some clarification on a few things. 1. Do all files, master and subs, have to be in the same folder? And can that folder be on SharePoint? If they can be on SharePoint, do I have to create the master by linking to SharePoint? 2. What is with the continuous section break after each document that is inserted? Is there a way to get rid of that? And if you manage to do so, when you go and edit the sub document, will it return to mess of the format of your master again? I realize these are basic questions and apprecaite a quick answer if possible. Thanks -- Harley |
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Hi Charles,
I read the article and it answered my second question regarding section breaks but it did not answer my first with respect to having these files uploaded on SharePoint. I am still having issues with this. Currently I don't think it is possible to build a master off of files on SharePoint, but if anyone out there knows how, please advise. Thanks -- Harley "Charles Kenyon" wrote: Have you read Steve Hudson's page? I suspect it does answer your questions. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Harley" wrote in message ... Thanks for the responses even though they did not answer my question. All your warnings will be taken into consideration. However, if you do not use Master Documents, then are you simply taking the word of people who may not be using them correctly? How can only one person know how to use them correctly to the point of no corruption yet everyone else can't? I am willing to at least give it a try and see what happens. If my document gets corrupted, then it gets corrupted. If not, then I have a great document to reference. As for getting answers to my original questions, I guess I will have to figure it out on my own. -- Harley "Charles Kenyon" wrote: Sorry, I don't have an answer because I don't use Master Documents. However, you may need the reason I don't more than you need an answer. "Master Document" is a term of art in Word referring to a "feature" that not only doesn't work but also destroys documents. The consensus (with the limited exception of Steve Hudson) among those offering advice on these newsgroups is that using the Master Document feature is a good way to destroy your document. It can destroy parts of your document that you are not even working on! I think John McGhie said it succinctly when he said that there are two kinds of Master Documents: Those that are corrupt and those that will be corrupt soon. See http://www.addbalance.com/word/masterdocuments.htm for information on the Master Document feature and workarounds. See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ocsCorrupt.htm for more information on what goes wrong, and http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...MasterDocs.htm for ideas on how to salvage what you can. See http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...masterdocs.doc for Steve Hudson's instructions if you are willing to follow them very carefully. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Harley" wrote in message ... Hi all, I am currenlty trying to create my first Master document and I would like some clarification on a few things. 1. Do all files, master and subs, have to be in the same folder? And can that folder be on SharePoint? If they can be on SharePoint, do I have to create the master by linking to SharePoint? 2. What is with the continuous section break after each document that is inserted? Is there a way to get rid of that? And if you manage to do so, when you go and edit the sub document, will it return to mess of the format of your master again? I realize these are basic questions and apprecaite a quick answer if possible. Thanks -- Harley |