[The DixieFlatline]

I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie "How
are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?

[Peter T. Daniels]

Use the same shift key that you used to type the quotation mark (not
"speech mark").

On Jul 13, 11:30*pm, The DixieFlatline The
wrote:
I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie *"How
are you?" *Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"The DixieFlatline" The wrote in
message ...
I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie
"How
are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?

[Peter T. Daniels]

"It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word
processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a
letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in
that sentence.

On Jul 14, 8:01*am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"The DixieFlatline" The wrote in
...



I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie
"How
are you?" *Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?-

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

Indeed. :-)

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
"It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word
processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a
letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in
that sentence.

On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"The DixieFlatline" The wrote in
...



I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie
"How
are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?-

[The DixieFlatline[_2_]]

If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a slight
annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a comfort. BTW I
was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation mark" are
interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

"It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word
processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a
letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in
that sentence.

On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"The DixieFlatline" The wrote in
...



I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie
"How
are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?-

[Peter T. Daniels]

Curious. When and where was your school?

I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the
quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a
period (or question mark or exclamation point).

It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any secondhand
bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer
program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20
minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can
accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly
they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and such.)

On Jul 14, 10:02*pm, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a slight
annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a comfort. BTW I
was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation mark" are
interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
"It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word
processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a
letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in
that sentence.

On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"The DixieFlatline" The wrote in
...

I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie
"How
are you?" *Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?--

[The DixieFlatline[_2_]]

My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level in
English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times and places
when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance on it
was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.)
Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's _always_
capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which is why I
wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it seemed a
small point.
I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too many
years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is ever worse,
and slower than, my two finger typing lol
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

Curious. When and where was your school?

I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the
quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a
period (or question mark or exclamation point).

It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any secondhand
bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer
program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20
minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can
accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly
they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and such.)

On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a slight
annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a comfort. BTW I
was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation mark" are
interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
"It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word
processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a
letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in
that sentence.

On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"The DixieFlatline" The wrote in
...

I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie
"How
are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?--

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Jul 15, 5:09*am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level in

Aha! You're in the Eastern Hemisphere! (Then why call yourself
"Dixie"?)

English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times and places
when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance on it
was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.)

It's odd to have encountered that enlightened attitude "many years
ago" -- unless your use of "many" is a lot smaller than mine! There
was a huge furore over here when the "descriptivist" Third
International Dictionary was publlished by Merriam-Webster in 1961.

Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's _always_
capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which is why I
wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it seemed a
small point.

It's easier to type a capital than to uncapitalize a wrongly
capitalized letter.

I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too many
years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is ever worse,
and slower than, my two finger typing lol

It just takes a little practice (using basic exercises).

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Curious. When and where was your school?

I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the
quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a
period (or question mark or exclamation point).

It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any secondhand
bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer
program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20
minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can
accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly
they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and such.)

On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a slight
annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a comfort. BTW I
was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation mark" are
interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
"It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word
processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a
letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in
that sentence.

On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"The DixieFlatline" The wrote in
...

I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie
"How
are you?" *Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?---

[The DixieFlatline[_2_]]

Eastern? I think not. I'm a tad over 100 miles west of Greenwich, a bit more
by road. The Dixie Flattline is a character in Neuromancer by William Gibson.
To cut a long story short, he is dead and lives only in a computer. I was
house-bound for a fair while and almost lived on the internet, so it seemed
an appropriate nickname.

Guess you're right about the disadvantages outweighing the advantages
the speech mark thing.

Yes, I do manage to stumble along with ten fingers (is "stumble the right
word, when applied to fingers? hmm...) but as soon as I need to pick up the
pace, or get interested in what I'm doing, I forget and regress to the faster
two fingers. Ah well, Any Road ... as George Harrison might have said.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Jul 15, 5:09 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level in

Aha! You're in the Eastern Hemisphere! (Then why call yourself
"Dixie"?)

English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times and places
when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance on it
was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.)

It's odd to have encountered that enlightened attitude "many years
ago" -- unless your use of "many" is a lot smaller than mine! There
was a huge furore over here when the "descriptivist" Third
International Dictionary was publlished by Merriam-Webster in 1961.

Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's _always_
capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which is why I
wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it seemed a
small point.

It's easier to type a capital than to uncapitalize a wrongly
capitalized letter.

I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too many
years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is ever worse,
and slower than, my two finger typing lol

It just takes a little practice (using basic exercises).

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Curious. When and where was your school?

I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the
quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a
period (or question mark or exclamation point).

It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any secondhand
bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer
program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20
minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can
accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly
they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and such.)

On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a slight
annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a comfort. BTW I
was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation mark" are
interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
"It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word
processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a
letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in
that sentence.

On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"The DixieFlatline" The wrote in
...

I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie
"How
are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?---

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I've seen two-finger "hunt and peck" typists (journalists, especially) who
could type that way faster than I can touch-type, though if you have to look
at the keyboard (and most accomplished hunt-and-peckers don't), then you're
limited to composing rather than typing from handwritten or printed copy.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"The DixieFlatline" wrote in
message news
Eastern? I think not. I'm a tad over 100 miles west of Greenwich, a bit
more
by road. The Dixie Flattline is a character in Neuromancer by William
Gibson.
To cut a long story short, he is dead and lives only in a computer. I was
house-bound for a fair while and almost lived on the internet, so it
seemed
an appropriate nickname.

Guess you're right about the disadvantages outweighing the advantages
the speech mark thing.

Yes, I do manage to stumble along with ten fingers (is "stumble the right
word, when applied to fingers? hmm...) but as soon as I need to pick up
the
pace, or get interested in what I'm doing, I forget and regress to the
faster
two fingers. Ah well, Any Road ... as George Harrison might have said.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Jul 15, 5:09 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level in

Aha! You're in the Eastern Hemisphere! (Then why call yourself
"Dixie"?)

English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times and
places
when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance on
it
was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.)

It's odd to have encountered that enlightened attitude "many years
ago" -- unless your use of "many" is a lot smaller than mine! There
was a huge furore over here when the "descriptivist" Third
International Dictionary was publlished by Merriam-Webster in 1961.

Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's
_always_
capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which is
why I
wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it
seemed a
small point.

It's easier to type a capital than to uncapitalize a wrongly
capitalized letter.

I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too
many
years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is ever
worse,
and slower than, my two finger typing lol

It just takes a little practice (using basic exercises).

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Curious. When and where was your school?

I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the
quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a
period (or question mark or exclamation point).

It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any
secondhand
bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer
program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20
minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can
accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly
they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and
such.)

On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a
slight
annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a
comfort. BTW I
was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation
mark" are
interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
"It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere
word
processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a
letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once
in
that sentence.

On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all
possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift
anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very
easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"The DixieFlatline" The
wrote in
...

I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech
mark, ie
"How
are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the
sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?---

[The DixieFlatline[_2_]]

Half 'n' half. for most oft the time I don't have to look at the keyboard,
but long-ingrained habit means that I tend to. It does tend to slow me down a
bit when copying, but I seem to cope.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I've seen two-finger "hunt and peck" typists (journalists, especially) who
could type that way faster than I can touch-type, though if you have to look
at the keyboard (and most accomplished hunt-and-peckers don't), then you're
limited to composing rather than typing from handwritten or printed copy.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"The DixieFlatline" wrote in
message news
Eastern? I think not. I'm a tad over 100 miles west of Greenwich, a bit
more
by road. The Dixie Flattline is a character in Neuromancer by William
Gibson.
To cut a long story short, he is dead and lives only in a computer. I was
house-bound for a fair while and almost lived on the internet, so it
seemed
an appropriate nickname.

Guess you're right about the disadvantages outweighing the advantages
the speech mark thing.

Yes, I do manage to stumble along with ten fingers (is "stumble the right
word, when applied to fingers? hmm...) but as soon as I need to pick up
the
pace, or get interested in what I'm doing, I forget and regress to the
faster
two fingers. Ah well, Any Road ... as George Harrison might have said.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Jul 15, 5:09 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level in

Aha! You're in the Eastern Hemisphere! (Then why call yourself
"Dixie"?)

English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times and
places
when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance on
it
was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.)

It's odd to have encountered that enlightened attitude "many years
ago" -- unless your use of "many" is a lot smaller than mine! There
was a huge furore over here when the "descriptivist" Third
International Dictionary was publlished by Merriam-Webster in 1961.

Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's
_always_
capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which is
why I
wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it
seemed a
small point.

It's easier to type a capital than to uncapitalize a wrongly
capitalized letter.

I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too
many
years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is ever
worse,
and slower than, my two finger typing lol

It just takes a little practice (using basic exercises).

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Curious. When and where was your school?

I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the
quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a
period (or question mark or exclamation point).

It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any
secondhand
bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer
program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20
minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can
accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly
they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and
such.)

On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a
slight
annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a
comfort. BTW I
was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation
mark" are
interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
"It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere
word
processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a
letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once
in
that sentence.

On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all
possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift
anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very
easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"The DixieFlatline" The
wrote in
...

I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech
mark, ie
"How
are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the
sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?---

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I have the same issue with touch-typing. I don't look at the keyboard, but I
do look at the typing I'm producing (on screen now, formerly on paper with a
typewriter). Although I can type perfectly well without looking at the
screen (while looking at copy), it makes me very nervous for some reason.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"The DixieFlatline" wrote in
message ...
Half 'n' half. for most oft the time I don't have to look at the keyboard,
but long-ingrained habit means that I tend to. It does tend to slow me
down a
bit when copying, but I seem to cope.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I've seen two-finger "hunt and peck" typists (journalists, especially)
who
could type that way faster than I can touch-type, though if you have to
look
at the keyboard (and most accomplished hunt-and-peckers don't), then
you're
limited to composing rather than typing from handwritten or printed copy.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"The DixieFlatline" wrote in
message news
Eastern? I think not. I'm a tad over 100 miles west of Greenwich, a bit
more
by road. The Dixie Flattline is a character in Neuromancer by William
Gibson.
To cut a long story short, he is dead and lives only in a computer. I
was
house-bound for a fair while and almost lived on the internet, so it
seemed
an appropriate nickname.

Guess you're right about the disadvantages outweighing the advantages

the speech mark thing.

Yes, I do manage to stumble along with ten fingers (is "stumble the
right
word, when applied to fingers? hmm...) but as soon as I need to pick up
the
pace, or get interested in what I'm doing, I forget and regress to the
faster
two fingers. Ah well, Any Road ... as George Harrison might have said.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Jul 15, 5:09 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level
in

Aha! You're in the Eastern Hemisphere! (Then why call yourself
"Dixie"?)

English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times
and
places
when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance
on
it
was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.)

It's odd to have encountered that enlightened attitude "many years
ago" -- unless your use of "many" is a lot smaller than mine! There
was a huge furore over here when the "descriptivist" Third
International Dictionary was publlished by Merriam-Webster in 1961.

Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's
_always_
capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which
is
why I
wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it
seemed a
small point.

It's easier to type a capital than to uncapitalize a wrongly
capitalized letter.

I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too
many
years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is
ever
worse,
and slower than, my two finger typing lol

It just takes a little practice (using basic exercises).

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Curious. When and where was your school?

I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside
the
quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't
follow a
period (or question mark or exclamation point).

It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any
secondhand
bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer
program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20
minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can
accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is --
mostly
they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and
such.)

On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only
a
slight
annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a
comfort. BTW I
was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation
mark" are
interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more
informal.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
"It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a
mere
word
processing program to determine when and when not to
capitalize a
letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible"
once
in
that sentence.

On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all
possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press
Shift
anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be
very
easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"The DixieFlatline" The
wrote in
...

I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a
speech
mark, ie
"How
are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of
the
sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?---

[Peter T. Daniels]

Would "Old World" be better?

I stopped reading SF cold turkey when Heinlein became a hippie (a
right-wing hippie, no less) -- I even tried Neuromancer because it was
so highly acclaimed but couldn't get even a few pages into it.

On Jul 15, 11:20*am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
Eastern? I think not. I'm a tad over 100 miles west of Greenwich, a bit more
by road. The Dixie Flattline is a character in Neuromancer by William Gibson.
To cut a long story short, he is dead and lives only in a computer. I was
house-bound for a fair while and almost lived on the internet, so it seemed
an appropriate nickname.

Guess you're right about the disadvantages outweighing the advantages
the speech mark thing.

Yes, I do manage to stumble along with ten fingers (is "stumble the right
word, when applied to fingers? hmm...) but as soon as I need to pick up the
pace, or get interested in what I'm doing, I forget and regress to the faster
two fingers. Ah well, Any Road ... as George Harrison might have said.



"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
On Jul 15, 5:09 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level in

Aha! You're in the Eastern Hemisphere! (Then why call yourself
"Dixie"?)

English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times and places
when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance on it
was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.)

It's odd to have encountered that enlightened attitude "many years
ago" -- unless your use of "many" is a lot smaller than mine! There
was a huge furore over here when the "descriptivist" Third
International Dictionary was publlished by Merriam-Webster in 1961.

Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's _always_
capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which is why I
wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it seemed a
small point.

It's easier to type a capital than to uncapitalize a wrongly
capitalized letter.

I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too many
years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is ever worse,
and slower than, my two finger typing lol

It just takes a little practice (using basic exercises).

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Curious. When and where was your school?

I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the
quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a
period (or question mark or exclamation point).

It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any secondhand
bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer
program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20
minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can
accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly
they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and such.)

On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a slight
annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a comfort. BTW I
was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation mark" are
interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
"It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word
processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a
letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in
that sentence.

On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"The DixieFlatline" The wrote in
...

I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie
"How
are you?" *Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?----

[The DixieFlatline[_2_]]

I was the same with Neuromancer, but owning an unread book is almost like
tooth-ache with me, I just can't leave it be, and the second time I tried it
I loved it, lord knows why; maybe I was just in a more receptive mood. I must
have been desperate for something to read, if I picked up a book I'd not
liked the firsdt time around.
Yes, Heinlein went a bit (or a lot) odd. His early stuff is still some of
the best S-F ever written though. I'm so glad you called it S-F not sci-fi ...
Old World eh? I take it you're one of those damned colonial revolutionary
chappies then? Eh, what?

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

Would "Old World" be better?

I stopped reading SF cold turkey when Heinlein became a hippie (a
right-wing hippie, no less) -- I even tried Neuromancer because it was
so highly acclaimed but couldn't get even a few pages into it.

On Jul 15, 11:20 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
Eastern? I think not. I'm a tad over 100 miles west of Greenwich, a bit more
by road. The Dixie Flattline is a character in Neuromancer by William Gibson.
To cut a long story short, he is dead and lives only in a computer. I was
house-bound for a fair while and almost lived on the internet, so it seemed
an appropriate nickname.

Guess you're right about the disadvantages outweighing the advantages
the speech mark thing.

Yes, I do manage to stumble along with ten fingers (is "stumble the right
word, when applied to fingers? hmm...) but as soon as I need to pick up the
pace, or get interested in what I'm doing, I forget and regress to the faster
two fingers. Ah well, Any Road ... as George Harrison might have said.



"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
On Jul 15, 5:09 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
My schooling was many years ago, but I did come away with an o-level in

Aha! You're in the Eastern Hemisphere! (Then why call yourself
"Dixie"?)

English Language. One thing we were taught was that there's times and places
when absolutely correct speech is needed, and others when insistance on it
was merely pedantry. (Polite cough.)

It's odd to have encountered that enlightened attitude "many years
ago" -- unless your use of "many" is a lot smaller than mine! There
was a huge furore over here when the "descriptivist" Third
International Dictionary was publlished by Merriam-Webster in 1961.

Yes, I know there's cases where it is/isn't capitalized, but it's _always_
capitalized after a full stop, exclamation- or question-mark, which is why I
wondered whether I'd missed something in settings to turn it on; it seemed a
small point.

It's easier to type a capital than to uncapitalize a wrongly
capitalized letter.

I've tried to learn the old ten-finger business, but I'm afraid too many
years of bad habits have got in the way. My ten finger typing is ever worse,
and slower than, my two finger typing lol

It just takes a little practice (using basic exercises).

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Curious. When and where was your school?

I can certainly come up with examples where the first word inside the
quotation marks is capitalized even if the quotation doesn't follow a
period (or question mark or exclamation point).

It really isn't hard to tearn to type with ten fingers. Any secondhand
bookstore will have old typing manuals (you don't need a computer
program!), and if you practice the first few lessons for maybe 20
minutes a day, over a week or so, you'll be amazed what you can
accomplish. (Don't be frightened by how thick the book is -- mostly
they're teaching secretaries how to format business letters and such.)

On Jul 14, 10:02 pm, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
If it follows a full stop, it's a new sentence. I know it's only a slight
annoyance, but with my slow two-fingered typing any aid is a comfort. BTW I
was taught at school that the terms "speech mark" and "quotation mark" are
interchangeable; one is technical usage, the other more informal.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
"It would be impossible," Peter might have written, "for a mere word
processing program to determine when and when not to capitalize a
letter after a quotation mark." I used the word "impossible" once in
that sentence.

On Jul 14, 8:01 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
The auto capitalization (apparently) cannot deal with all possible
situations. But, as Peter wrote, since you have to press Shift anyway to
insert the quotation mark, manual capitalization will be very easy in this
case.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"The DixieFlatline" The wrote in
...

I've noticed that in Word, if a sentence starts with a speech mark, ie
"How
are you?" Word will not capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Is
there a way to make it do so?----

[Peter T. Daniels]

You would diss the land that gave you just about every great SF writer
in the canon?

I was getting Asimov and Heinlein from the Young Adults section of the
library when I was 5.

On Jul 16, 5:16*pm, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
I was the same with Neuromancer, but owning an unread book is almost like
tooth-ache with me, I just can't leave it be, and the second time I tried it
I loved it, lord knows why; maybe I was just in a more receptive mood. I must
have been desperate for something to read, if I picked up a book I'd not
liked the firsdt time around.
Yes, Heinlein went a bit (or a lot) odd. His early stuff is still some of
the best S-F ever written though. I'm so glad you called it S-F not sci-fi ...
*Old World eh? I take it you're one of those damned colonial revolutionary
chappies then? Eh, what?



"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Would "Old World" be better?

I stopped reading SF cold turkey when Heinlein became a hippie (a
right-wing hippie, no less) -- I even tried Neuromancer because it was
so highly acclaimed but couldn't get even a few pages into it.

[The DixieFlatline[_2_]]

Good point, re the writers. I did go to the same school as a certain Mr
Clarke, though, albeit a few years later and in a different building ...

5? You started early. My first novel was a Biggles, aged about 6 or 7. First
SF would have been Andre Norton or Hugh Walters. I definitely remember my
first Heinlein though - Starman Jones, probably followed by my Dad's
collection of Asimov and Clarke. I also remember the librarian letting me use
the adult ibrary two years early, to borrow the Stainless Steel Rat novels
and the Lensmen series.

Ah, the golden years of youth ...

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

You would diss the land that gave you just about every great SF writer
in the canon?

I was getting Asimov and Heinlein from the Young Adults section of the
library when I was 5.

On Jul 16, 5:16 pm, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
I was the same with Neuromancer, but owning an unread book is almost like
tooth-ache with me, I just can't leave it be, and the second time I tried it
I loved it, lord knows why; maybe I was just in a more receptive mood. I must
have been desperate for something to read, if I picked up a book I'd not
liked the firsdt time around.
Yes, Heinlein went a bit (or a lot) odd. His early stuff is still some of
the best S-F ever written though. I'm so glad you called it S-F not sci-fi ...
Old World eh? I take it you're one of those damned colonial revolutionary
chappies then? Eh, what?



"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Would "Old World" be better?

I stopped reading SF cold turkey when Heinlein became a hippie (a
right-wing hippie, no less) -- I even tried Neuromancer because it was
so highly acclaimed but couldn't get even a few pages into it.

[The DixieFlatline[_2_]]

I meant to mention ...
If you stopped reading SF when Heinein went odd, you've missed all of Iain M
Banks' work. It might tempt you back ...
(Incomplete sentences, a habit I picked up from Arthur C Clarke ...)

[Peter T. Daniels]

Nothing wrong with incomplete sentences.

I don't know who Biggles, Walters, Stainless Steel Rat, or Banks are.
I don't think I read (though I did buy) Asimov's last two or three
novels. I had already discovered that he is unrereadable -- he
provided story, not style -- and his ego and sexism the several times
I met him or saw him on TV were awfully offputting.

I did ask him why he had never written anything on linguistics (my
field), and he did say he had to know something about a topic before
he wrote about it ... and I always regretted that I didn't think of
asking how he kept up on current research in his fields (since he was
notoriously reclusive). He went to P D Q Bach concerts and G & S
Society meetings, and to SF conventions if they didn't require flying.

Is Lensmen the Doc Smith series? I did try him once, because Asimov
said he was so important, but he was more like Agatha Christie: didn't
play fair with the reader.

Isn't John Brunner English also? And John Wyndham.

On Jul 17, 6:46*am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
*I meant to mention ...
If you stopped reading SF when Heinein went odd, you've missed all of Iain M
Banks' work. It *might tempt you back ...
(Incomplete sentences, a habit I picked up from Arthur C Clarke ...)

[The DixieFlatline[_2_]]

Biggles was a Flying Ace type. Hugh Walters wrote basically the same sort of
thig, but set in space, and to be honest I can't remember a single plot, but
I loved 'em at the time. The SSR was a Harry Harrison series of novels, since
"sequalled" to death andDoc Smith's lensmen is definitley only readable until
about the age of 15, tops, even if they're not actually classed as juveniles.
Banks is sort of space-opera for adults, galactic in scope but without all
the empire and blue-jawed heroics. He's written some good none-genre novels
as well, under the same name but minus the middle initial.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Asimov had a near eidic memory and
was a very fast reader.

Yep! Both were English, Eric Frank Russel, too; another oft passed-over
great. It's odd, I can think of English, Scottish and Irish SF writers, but
no Welsh.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

Nothing wrong with incomplete sentences.

I don't know who Biggles, Walters, Stainless Steel Rat, or Banks are.
I don't think I read (though I did buy) Asimov's last two or three
novels. I had already discovered that he is unrereadable -- he
provided story, not style -- and his ego and sexism the several times
I met him or saw him on TV were awfully offputting.

I did ask him why he had never written anything on linguistics (my
field), and he did say he had to know something about a topic before
he wrote about it ... and I always regretted that I didn't think of
asking how he kept up on current research in his fields (since he was
notoriously reclusive). He went to P D Q Bach concerts and G & S
Society meetings, and to SF conventions if they didn't require flying.

Is Lensmen the Doc Smith series? I did try him once, because Asimov
said he was so important, but he was more like Agatha Christie: didn't
play fair with the reader.

Isn't John Brunner English also? And John Wyndham.

On Jul 17, 6:46 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
I meant to mention ...
If you stopped reading SF when Heinein went odd, you've missed all of Iain M
Banks' work. It might tempt you back ...
(Incomplete sentences, a habit I picked up from Arthur C Clarke ...)

[Peter T. Daniels]

What;s Flying Ace?

Asimov lived for many years in Newton, Mass., a suburb of Boston not
convenient to any univesity library -- he was allowed to use the
Professor at Boston University title forever even though he only
taught there for a year or two but apparently this didn't include any
of the rights or privileges of the position. When he moved to New
York, they lived in one of those fabulous Upper West Side apartment
houses.

On Jul 17, 9:14*am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
Biggles was a Flying Ace type. Hugh Walters wrote basically the same sort of
thig, but set in space, and to be honest I can't remember a single plot, but
I loved 'em at the time. The SSR was a Harry Harrison series of novels, since
"sequalled" to death andDoc Smith's lensmen is definitley only readable until
about the age of 15, tops, even if they're not actually classed as juveniles.
Banks is sort of space-opera for adults, galactic in scope but without all
the empire and blue-jawed heroics. He's written some good none-genre novels
as well, under the same name but minus the middle initial.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Asimov had a near eidic memory and
was a very fast reader.

Yep! Both were English, Eric Frank Russel, too; another oft passed-over
great. It's odd, I can think of English, Scottish and Irish SF writers, but
no Welsh.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Nothing wrong with incomplete sentences.

I don't know who Biggles, Walters, Stainless Steel Rat, or Banks are.
I don't think I read (though I did buy) Asimov's last two or three
novels. I had already discovered that he is unrereadable -- he
provided story, not style -- and his ego and sexism the several times
I met him or saw him on TV were awfully offputting.

I did ask him why he had never written anything on linguistics (my
field), and he did say he had to know something about a topic before
he wrote about it ... and I always regretted that I didn't think of
asking how he kept up on current research in his fields (since he was
notoriously reclusive). He went to P D Q Bach concerts and G & S
Society meetings, and to SF conventions if they didn't require flying.

Is Lensmen the Doc Smith series? I did try him once, because Asimov
said he was so important, but he was more like Agatha Christie: didn't
play fair with the reader.

Isn't John Brunner English also? And John Wyndham.

On Jul 17, 6:46 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
*I meant to mention ...
If you stopped reading SF when Heinein went odd, you've missed all of Iain M
Banks' work. It *might tempt you back ...
(Incomplete sentences, a habit I picked up from Arthur C Clarke ...)-

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I haven't by any stretch of the imagination read all (or even a small
fraction) of Asimov's incredible oeuvre, but I did very much enjoy his
two-volume memoir, "In Memory Yet Green" and "In Joy Still Felt," which has
provided me at least one anecdote I cite frequently. He admits he has a
photographic memory, but even so, he was a very quick study (I believe he
discusses this in connection with writing a book on Shakespeare starting
from square one).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
What;s Flying Ace?

Asimov lived for many years in Newton, Mass., a suburb of Boston not
convenient to any univesity library -- he was allowed to use the
Professor at Boston University title forever even though he only
taught there for a year or two but apparently this didn't include any
of the rights or privileges of the position. When he moved to New
York, they lived in one of those fabulous Upper West Side apartment
houses.

On Jul 17, 9:14 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
Biggles was a Flying Ace type. Hugh Walters wrote basically the same sort
of
thig, but set in space, and to be honest I can't remember a single plot,
but
I loved 'em at the time. The SSR was a Harry Harrison series of novels,
since
"sequalled" to death andDoc Smith's lensmen is definitley only readable
until
about the age of 15, tops, even if they're not actually classed as
juveniles.
Banks is sort of space-opera for adults, galactic in scope but without all
the empire and blue-jawed heroics. He's written some good none-genre
novels
as well, under the same name but minus the middle initial.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Asimov had a near eidic memory
and
was a very fast reader.

Yep! Both were English, Eric Frank Russel, too; another oft passed-over
great. It's odd, I can think of English, Scottish and Irish SF writers,
but
no Welsh.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Nothing wrong with incomplete sentences.

I don't know who Biggles, Walters, Stainless Steel Rat, or Banks are.
I don't think I read (though I did buy) Asimov's last two or three
novels. I had already discovered that he is unrereadable -- he
provided story, not style -- and his ego and sexism the several times
I met him or saw him on TV were awfully offputting.

I did ask him why he had never written anything on linguistics (my
field), and he did say he had to know something about a topic before
he wrote about it ... and I always regretted that I didn't think of
asking how he kept up on current research in his fields (since he was
notoriously reclusive). He went to P D Q Bach concerts and G & S
Society meetings, and to SF conventions if they didn't require flying.

Is Lensmen the Doc Smith series? I did try him once, because Asimov
said he was so important, but he was more like Agatha Christie: didn't
play fair with the reader.

Isn't John Brunner English also? And John Wyndham.

On Jul 17, 6:46 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
I meant to mention ...
If you stopped reading SF when Heinein went odd, you've missed all of
Iain M
Banks' work. It might tempt you back ...
(Incomplete sentences, a habit I picked up from Arthur C Clarke ...)-

[Peter T. Daniels]

I've actually seen *Asimov's Guide to Shakespeare* recommended in a
college Shakespeare text. He simply goes through every word of every
play explaining the historical references, the unfamiliar realia,
etc., with (not unexpectedly) not the slightest concern for the
"meaning" of the text, literary quality, etc.

And, like a scientist, he orders them in supposed chronological order
of the events depicted. Which means the mythic ones (Midsummer Night's
Dream, Tempest) come before the Greek history ones.

Idiosyncratic.

On Aug 8, 9:47*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
I haven't by any stretch of the imagination read all (or even a small
fraction) of Asimov's incredible oeuvre, but I did very much enjoy his
two-volume memoir, "In Memory Yet Green" and "In Joy Still Felt," which has
provided me at least one anecdote I cite frequently. He admits he has a
photographic memory, but even so, he was a very quick study (I believe he
discusses this in connection with writing a book on Shakespeare starting
from square one).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ...
What;s Flying Ace?

Asimov lived for many years in Newton, Mass., a suburb of Boston not
convenient to any univesity library -- he was allowed to use the
Professor at Boston University title forever even though he only
taught there for a year or two but apparently this didn't include any
of the rights or privileges of the position. When he moved to New
York, they lived in one of those fabulous Upper West Side apartment
houses.

On Jul 17, 9:14 am, The DixieFlatline



wrote:
Biggles was a Flying Ace type. Hugh Walters wrote basically the same sort
of
thig, but set in space, and to be honest I can't remember a single plot,
but
I loved 'em at the time. The SSR was a Harry Harrison series of novels,
since
"sequalled" to death andDoc Smith's lensmen is definitley only readable
until
about the age of 15, tops, even if they're not actually classed as
juveniles.
Banks is sort of space-opera for adults, galactic in scope but without all
the empire and blue-jawed heroics. He's written some good none-genre
novels
as well, under the same name but minus the middle initial.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Asimov had a near eidic memory
and
was a very fast reader.

Yep! Both were English, Eric Frank Russel, too; another oft passed-over
great. It's odd, I can think of English, Scottish and Irish SF writers,
but
no Welsh.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Nothing wrong with incomplete sentences.

I don't know who Biggles, Walters, Stainless Steel Rat, or Banks are.
I don't think I read (though I did buy) Asimov's last two or three
novels. I had already discovered that he is unrereadable -- he
provided story, not style -- and his ego and sexism the several times
I met him or saw him on TV were awfully offputting.

I did ask him why he had never written anything on linguistics (my
field), and he did say he had to know something about a topic before
he wrote about it ... and I always regretted that I didn't think of
asking how he kept up on current research in his fields (since he was
notoriously reclusive). He went to P D Q Bach concerts and G & S
Society meetings, and to SF conventions if they didn't require flying..

Is Lensmen the Doc Smith series? I did try him once, because Asimov
said he was so important, but he was more like Agatha Christie: didn't
play fair with the reader.

Isn't John Brunner English also? And John Wyndham.

On Jul 17, 6:46 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
I meant to mention ...
If you stopped reading SF when Heinein went odd, you've missed all of
Iain M
Banks' work. It might tempt you back ...
(Incomplete sentences, a habit I picked up from Arthur C Clarke ...)--

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Perhaps idiosyncratic, but I think that would actually be quite helpful.
While we were in Stratford-upon-Avon a few weeks ago, we saw a RSC
performance of "As You Like It." In preparation, I had read the play in a
small leatherbound pocket-sized edition (ancient, part of a set passed along
to me by a great-aunt along with reams of literature "proving" that Sir
Francis Bacon had written the plays) with only a very few notes, all on
textual matters (ms variants). My husband borrowed from our daughter a
college edition with a few more notes, though mostly on the vocabulary
(which I mostly didn't need). But more explanation of the jokes would have
been helpful. In the event, I had trouble hearing and understanding the
dialog (we were in the gallery, i.e., second balcony) and eventually,
inevitably dozed off. g

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
I've actually seen *Asimov's Guide to Shakespeare* recommended in a
college Shakespeare text. He simply goes through every word of every
play explaining the historical references, the unfamiliar realia,
etc., with (not unexpectedly) not the slightest concern for the
"meaning" of the text, literary quality, etc.

And, like a scientist, he orders them in supposed chronological order
of the events depicted. Which means the mythic ones (Midsummer Night's
Dream, Tempest) come before the Greek history ones.

Idiosyncratic.

On Aug 8, 9:47 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
I haven't by any stretch of the imagination read all (or even a small
fraction) of Asimov's incredible oeuvre, but I did very much enjoy his
two-volume memoir, "In Memory Yet Green" and "In Joy Still Felt," which
has
provided me at least one anecdote I cite frequently. He admits he has a
photographic memory, but even so, he was a very quick study (I believe he
discusses this in connection with writing a book on Shakespeare starting
from square one).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
...
What;s Flying Ace?

Asimov lived for many years in Newton, Mass., a suburb of Boston not
convenient to any univesity library -- he was allowed to use the
Professor at Boston University title forever even though he only
taught there for a year or two but apparently this didn't include any
of the rights or privileges of the position. When he moved to New
York, they lived in one of those fabulous Upper West Side apartment
houses.

On Jul 17, 9:14 am, The DixieFlatline



wrote:
Biggles was a Flying Ace type. Hugh Walters wrote basically the same
sort
of
thig, but set in space, and to be honest I can't remember a single plot,
but
I loved 'em at the time. The SSR was a Harry Harrison series of novels,
since
"sequalled" to death andDoc Smith's lensmen is definitley only readable
until
about the age of 15, tops, even if they're not actually classed as
juveniles.
Banks is sort of space-opera for adults, galactic in scope but without
all
the empire and blue-jawed heroics. He's written some good none-genre
novels
as well, under the same name but minus the middle initial.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Asimov had a near eidic memory
and
was a very fast reader.

Yep! Both were English, Eric Frank Russel, too; another oft passed-over
great. It's odd, I can think of English, Scottish and Irish SF writers,
but
no Welsh.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Nothing wrong with incomplete sentences.

I don't know who Biggles, Walters, Stainless Steel Rat, or Banks are.
I don't think I read (though I did buy) Asimov's last two or three
novels. I had already discovered that he is unrereadable -- he
provided story, not style -- and his ego and sexism the several times
I met him or saw him on TV were awfully offputting.

I did ask him why he had never written anything on linguistics (my
field), and he did say he had to know something about a topic before
he wrote about it ... and I always regretted that I didn't think of
asking how he kept up on current research in his fields (since he was
notoriously reclusive). He went to P D Q Bach concerts and G & S
Society meetings, and to SF conventions if they didn't require flying.

Is Lensmen the Doc Smith series? I did try him once, because Asimov
said he was so important, but he was more like Agatha Christie: didn't
play fair with the reader.

Isn't John Brunner English also? And John Wyndham.

On Jul 17, 6:46 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
I meant to mention ...
If you stopped reading SF when Heinein went odd, you've missed all
of
Iain M
Banks' work. It might tempt you back ...
(Incomplete sentences, a habit I picked up from Arthur C Clarke
...)--

[Peter T. Daniels]

How quaint! It's not Bacon, it's the Earl of Oxford.

I suppose the thicker single-play editions available these days have
the Asimov-like info.

Last month there turned up in the Bargain Books at Borders Hamlet, R &
J, and Richard III in a well-done edition (aimed more at actors than
at Eng Lit students) that includes a wide variety of production photos
and a CD of contrasted performances of selected celebrated passages,
including some historic ones. Turns out that the publisher, in
Chicago, has over 3 or 4 years done nearly all the plays in that
format, but only those three were $2.99. The rest can be ordered at
$14.95 - $17.95.

My "idiosyncratic" referred only to the arrangement of the plays,
which are usually either grouped into comedies/tragedies/histories/
romances, or given in order of creation.

On Aug 8, 11:03*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Perhaps idiosyncratic, but I think that would actually be quite helpful.
While we were in Stratford-upon-Avon a few weeks ago, we saw a RSC
performance of "As You Like It." In preparation, I had read the play in a
small leatherbound pocket-sized edition (ancient, part of a set passed along
to me by a great-aunt along with reams of literature "proving" that Sir
Francis Bacon had written the plays) with only a very few notes, all on
textual matters (ms variants). My husband borrowed from our daughter a
college edition with a few more notes, though mostly on the vocabulary
(which I mostly didn't need). But more explanation of the jokes would have
been helpful. In the event, I had trouble hearing and understanding the
dialog (we were in the gallery, i.e., second balcony) and eventually,
inevitably dozed off. g

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ...
I've actually seen *Asimov's Guide to Shakespeare* recommended in a
college Shakespeare text. He simply goes through every word of every
play explaining the historical references, the unfamiliar realia,
etc., with (not unexpectedly) not the slightest concern for the
"meaning" of the text, literary quality, etc.

And, like a scientist, he orders them in supposed chronological order
of the events depicted. Which means the mythic ones (Midsummer Night's
Dream, Tempest) come before the Greek history ones.

Idiosyncratic.

On Aug 8, 9:47 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



I haven't by any stretch of the imagination read all (or even a small
fraction) of Asimov's incredible oeuvre, but I did very much enjoy his
two-volume memoir, "In Memory Yet Green" and "In Joy Still Felt," which
has
provided me at least one anecdote I cite frequently. He admits he has a
photographic memory, but even so, he was a very quick study (I believe he
discusses this in connection with writing a book on Shakespeare starting
from square one).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
...
What;s Flying Ace?

Asimov lived for many years in Newton, Mass., a suburb of Boston not
convenient to any univesity library -- he was allowed to use the
Professor at Boston University title forever even though he only
taught there for a year or two but apparently this didn't include any
of the rights or privileges of the position. When he moved to New
York, they lived in one of those fabulous Upper West Side apartment
houses.

On Jul 17, 9:14 am, The DixieFlatline

wrote:
Biggles was a Flying Ace type. Hugh Walters wrote basically the same
sort
of
thig, but set in space, and to be honest I can't remember a single plot,
but
I loved 'em at the time. The SSR was a Harry Harrison series of novels,
since
"sequalled" to death andDoc Smith's lensmen is definitley only readable
until
about the age of 15, tops, even if they're not actually classed as
juveniles.
Banks is sort of space-opera for adults, galactic in scope but without
all
the empire and blue-jawed heroics. He's written some good none-genre
novels
as well, under the same name but minus the middle initial.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Asimov had a near eidic memory
and
was a very fast reader.

Yep! Both were English, Eric Frank Russel, too; another oft passed-over
great. It's odd, I can think of English, Scottish and Irish SF writers,
but
no Welsh.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Nothing wrong with incomplete sentences.

I don't know who Biggles, Walters, Stainless Steel Rat, or Banks are.
I don't think I read (though I did buy) Asimov's last two or three
novels. I had already discovered that he is unrereadable -- he
provided story, not style -- and his ego and sexism the several times
I met him or saw him on TV were awfully offputting.

I did ask him why he had never written anything on linguistics (my
field), and he did say he had to know something about a topic before
he wrote about it ... and I always regretted that I didn't think of
asking how he kept up on current research in his fields (since he was
notoriously reclusive). He went to P D Q Bach concerts and G & S
Society meetings, and to SF conventions if they didn't require flying.

Is Lensmen the Doc Smith series? I did try him once, because Asimov
said he was so important, but he was more like Agatha Christie: didn't
play fair with the reader.

Isn't John Brunner English also? And John Wyndham.

On Jul 17, 6:46 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
I meant to mention ...
If you stopped reading SF when Heinein went odd, you've missed all
of
Iain M
Banks' work. It might tempt you back ...
(Incomplete sentences, a habit I picked up from Arthur C Clarke
...)---

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Ah, yes, I agree that the "chronological" order is odd.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
How quaint! It's not Bacon, it's the Earl of Oxford.

I suppose the thicker single-play editions available these days have
the Asimov-like info.

Last month there turned up in the Bargain Books at Borders Hamlet, R &
J, and Richard III in a well-done edition (aimed more at actors than
at Eng Lit students) that includes a wide variety of production photos
and a CD of contrasted performances of selected celebrated passages,
including some historic ones. Turns out that the publisher, in
Chicago, has over 3 or 4 years done nearly all the plays in that
format, but only those three were $2.99. The rest can be ordered at
$14.95 - $17.95.

My "idiosyncratic" referred only to the arrangement of the plays,
which are usually either grouped into comedies/tragedies/histories/
romances, or given in order of creation.

On Aug 8, 11:03 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Perhaps idiosyncratic, but I think that would actually be quite helpful.
While we were in Stratford-upon-Avon a few weeks ago, we saw a RSC
performance of "As You Like It." In preparation, I had read the play in a
small leatherbound pocket-sized edition (ancient, part of a set passed
along
to me by a great-aunt along with reams of literature "proving" that Sir
Francis Bacon had written the plays) with only a very few notes, all on
textual matters (ms variants). My husband borrowed from our daughter a
college edition with a few more notes, though mostly on the vocabulary
(which I mostly didn't need). But more explanation of the jokes would have
been helpful. In the event, I had trouble hearing and understanding the
dialog (we were in the gallery, i.e., second balcony) and eventually,
inevitably dozed off. g

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
...
I've actually seen *Asimov's Guide to Shakespeare* recommended in a
college Shakespeare text. He simply goes through every word of every
play explaining the historical references, the unfamiliar realia,
etc., with (not unexpectedly) not the slightest concern for the
"meaning" of the text, literary quality, etc.

And, like a scientist, he orders them in supposed chronological order
of the events depicted. Which means the mythic ones (Midsummer Night's
Dream, Tempest) come before the Greek history ones.

Idiosyncratic.

On Aug 8, 9:47 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



I haven't by any stretch of the imagination read all (or even a small
fraction) of Asimov's incredible oeuvre, but I did very much enjoy his
two-volume memoir, "In Memory Yet Green" and "In Joy Still Felt," which
has
provided me at least one anecdote I cite frequently. He admits he has a
photographic memory, but even so, he was a very quick study (I believe
he
discusses this in connection with writing a book on Shakespeare starting
from square one).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
...
What;s Flying Ace?

Asimov lived for many years in Newton, Mass., a suburb of Boston not
convenient to any univesity library -- he was allowed to use the
Professor at Boston University title forever even though he only
taught there for a year or two but apparently this didn't include any
of the rights or privileges of the position. When he moved to New
York, they lived in one of those fabulous Upper West Side apartment
houses.

On Jul 17, 9:14 am, The DixieFlatline

wrote:
Biggles was a Flying Ace type. Hugh Walters wrote basically the same
sort
of
thig, but set in space, and to be honest I can't remember a single
plot,
but
I loved 'em at the time. The SSR was a Harry Harrison series of
novels,
since
"sequalled" to death andDoc Smith's lensmen is definitley only
readable
until
about the age of 15, tops, even if they're not actually classed as
juveniles.
Banks is sort of space-opera for adults, galactic in scope but without
all
the empire and blue-jawed heroics. He's written some good none-genre
novels
as well, under the same name but minus the middle initial.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Asimov had a near eidic
memory
and
was a very fast reader.

Yep! Both were English, Eric Frank Russel, too; another oft
passed-over
great. It's odd, I can think of English, Scottish and Irish SF
writers,
but
no Welsh.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Nothing wrong with incomplete sentences.

I don't know who Biggles, Walters, Stainless Steel Rat, or Banks
are.
I don't think I read (though I did buy) Asimov's last two or three
novels. I had already discovered that he is unrereadable -- he
provided story, not style -- and his ego and sexism the several
times
I met him or saw him on TV were awfully offputting.

I did ask him why he had never written anything on linguistics (my
field), and he did say he had to know something about a topic before
he wrote about it ... and I always regretted that I didn't think of
asking how he kept up on current research in his fields (since he
was
notoriously reclusive). He went to P D Q Bach concerts and G & S
Society meetings, and to SF conventions if they didn't require
flying.

Is Lensmen the Doc Smith series? I did try him once, because Asimov
said he was so important, but he was more like Agatha Christie:
didn't
play fair with the reader.

Isn't John Brunner English also? And John Wyndham.

On Jul 17, 6:46 am, The DixieFlatline
wrote:
I meant to mention ...
If you stopped reading SF when Heinein went odd, you've missed all
of
Iain M
Banks' work. It might tempt you back ...
(Incomplete sentences, a habit I picked up from Arthur C Clarke
...)---