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A person on my team is getting funky spacing when he types a double space at
the end of a sentence. Instead of using normal proportional spacing, Word
stretches out the double space so that it looks more like a triple or
quadruple space.

Single spaces between words behave normally, as do all other characters.

Is there some setting that causes elongated double spacing?

To add a wrinkle, he has both Asian and Arabic characters installed on his
computer.
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Some combinations of settings can produce funky stuff if full justification
is being used. Does it still act odd if justification is turned off? What
version of Word is being used? (If Word 2007, take a look at the Layout
options in Word Options - Advanced, very bottom of the dialog. Are any of
them turned on? All turned off is the default for Word 2007--if any are
turned on, ask why, and see if they're related to how Word treats spaces.)

Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Kimmie B" wrote in message
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A person on my team is getting funky spacing when he types a double space
at
the end of a sentence. Instead of using normal proportional spacing, Word
stretches out the double space so that it looks more like a triple or
quadruple space.

Single spaces between words behave normally, as do all other characters.

Is there some setting that causes elongated double spacing?

To add a wrinkle, he has both Asian and Arabic characters installed on his
computer.


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Thanks very much Herb.
We use Word 2003, and full justification is turned off. All our docs have
text aligned to the left. Any idea what those funky settings might be?

The problem seems to be unique to one user. We all start docs from the same
template, and no-one else's computer generates the elongated double spaces.
However, when we open a doc that that one user created with the elongated
double spaces on our own computer, the odd, elongated spacing persists within
the doc, even in new sentenes and paragraphs that someone else subsequently
adds. If this writer opens and works on a doc that someone else started, the
double-spacing seems to behave normally.

So, this is what I surmise. The template is fine. The problem originates
with settings in one person's computer. Opening the doc on someone else's
computer does not solve the problem. The problem seems to attach itself to a
doc.

As to others who have so generously weighed in on the
double-vs.-single-space-at-the-end-of-a-sentence issue, regardless of what
anyone thinks is proper or old-fashioned, Word is behaving strangely and I'd
like to get it fixed.

Any clues as to how to fix the problem would be greatly appreciated.

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Some combinations of settings can produce funky stuff if full justification
is being used. Does it still act odd if justification is turned off? What
version of Word is being used? (If Word 2007, take a look at the Layout
options in Word Options - Advanced, very bottom of the dialog. Are any of
them turned on? All turned off is the default for Word 2007--if any are
turned on, ask why, and see if they're related to how Word treats spaces.)

Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Kimmie B" wrote in message
...
A person on my team is getting funky spacing when he types a double space
at
the end of a sentence. Instead of using normal proportional spacing, Word
stretches out the double space so that it looks more like a triple or
quadruple space.

Single spaces between words behave normally, as do all other characters.

Is there some setting that causes elongated double spacing?

To add a wrinkle, he has both Asian and Arabic characters installed on his
computer.



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Can you send me a portion of one of the problem documents? I may not be able
to figure out the problem, but I'd be interested in taking a look.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Kimmie B" wrote in message
...
Thanks very much Herb.
We use Word 2003, and full justification is turned off. All our docs have
text aligned to the left. Any idea what those funky settings might be?

The problem seems to be unique to one user. We all start docs from the
same
template, and no-one else's computer generates the elongated double
spaces.
However, when we open a doc that that one user created with the elongated
double spaces on our own computer, the odd, elongated spacing persists
within
the doc, even in new sentenes and paragraphs that someone else
subsequently
adds. If this writer opens and works on a doc that someone else started,
the
double-spacing seems to behave normally.

So, this is what I surmise. The template is fine. The problem originates
with settings in one person's computer. Opening the doc on someone else's
computer does not solve the problem. The problem seems to attach itself
to a
doc.

As to others who have so generously weighed in on the
double-vs.-single-space-at-the-end-of-a-sentence issue, regardless of what
anyone thinks is proper or old-fashioned, Word is behaving strangely and
I'd
like to get it fixed.

Any clues as to how to fix the problem would be greatly appreciated.

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Some combinations of settings can produce funky stuff if full
justification
is being used. Does it still act odd if justification is turned off? What
version of Word is being used? (If Word 2007, take a look at the Layout
options in Word Options - Advanced, very bottom of the dialog. Are any of
them turned on? All turned off is the default for Word 2007--if any are
turned on, ask why, and see if they're related to how Word treats
spaces.)

Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Kimmie B" wrote in message
...
A person on my team is getting funky spacing when he types a double
space
at
the end of a sentence. Instead of using normal proportional spacing,
Word
stretches out the double space so that it looks more like a triple or
quadruple space.

Single spaces between words behave normally, as do all other
characters.

Is there some setting that causes elongated double spacing?

To add a wrinkle, he has both Asian and Arabic characters installed on
his
computer.





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Suzanne figured it out!

We are using Word 2003. Under Tools Options Compatibility, select Word
2003 rather than Custom.

The problem resolved itself immediately.

Kudos to Suzanne!

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Can you send me a portion of one of the problem documents? I may not be able
to figure out the problem, but I'd be interested in taking a look.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Kimmie B" wrote in message
...
Thanks very much Herb.
We use Word 2003, and full justification is turned off. All our docs have
text aligned to the left. Any idea what those funky settings might be?

The problem seems to be unique to one user. We all start docs from the
same
template, and no-one else's computer generates the elongated double
spaces.
However, when we open a doc that that one user created with the elongated
double spaces on our own computer, the odd, elongated spacing persists
within
the doc, even in new sentenes and paragraphs that someone else
subsequently
adds. If this writer opens and works on a doc that someone else started,
the
double-spacing seems to behave normally.

So, this is what I surmise. The template is fine. The problem originates
with settings in one person's computer. Opening the doc on someone else's
computer does not solve the problem. The problem seems to attach itself
to a
doc.

As to others who have so generously weighed in on the
double-vs.-single-space-at-the-end-of-a-sentence issue, regardless of what
anyone thinks is proper or old-fashioned, Word is behaving strangely and
I'd
like to get it fixed.

Any clues as to how to fix the problem would be greatly appreciated.

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Some combinations of settings can produce funky stuff if full
justification
is being used. Does it still act odd if justification is turned off? What
version of Word is being used? (If Word 2007, take a look at the Layout
options in Word Options - Advanced, very bottom of the dialog. Are any of
them turned on? All turned off is the default for Word 2007--if any are
turned on, ask why, and see if they're related to how Word treats
spaces.)

Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Kimmie B" wrote in message
...
A person on my team is getting funky spacing when he types a double
space
at
the end of a sentence. Instead of using normal proportional spacing,
Word
stretches out the double space so that it looks more like a triple or
quadruple space.

Single spaces between words behave normally, as do all other
characters.

Is there some setting that causes elongated double spacing?

To add a wrinkle, he has both Asian and Arabic characters installed on
his
computer.







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To follow up, the document had a "Custom" setting for Compatibility Options
with number of settings referring to Asian text; I suspect one of those was
the culprit, but Kimmie and the document author found it easier to just
change the settings wholesale, to Word 2003, which eliminated the problem.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Kimmie B" wrote in message
...
Suzanne figured it out!

We are using Word 2003. Under Tools Options Compatibility, select
Word
2003 rather than Custom.

The problem resolved itself immediately.

Kudos to Suzanne!

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Can you send me a portion of one of the problem documents? I may not be
able
to figure out the problem, but I'd be interested in taking a look.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Kimmie B" wrote in message
...
Thanks very much Herb.
We use Word 2003, and full justification is turned off. All our docs
have
text aligned to the left. Any idea what those funky settings might be?

The problem seems to be unique to one user. We all start docs from the
same
template, and no-one else's computer generates the elongated double
spaces.
However, when we open a doc that that one user created with the
elongated
double spaces on our own computer, the odd, elongated spacing persists
within
the doc, even in new sentenes and paragraphs that someone else
subsequently
adds. If this writer opens and works on a doc that someone else
started,
the
double-spacing seems to behave normally.

So, this is what I surmise. The template is fine. The problem
originates
with settings in one person's computer. Opening the doc on someone
else's
computer does not solve the problem. The problem seems to attach
itself
to a
doc.

As to others who have so generously weighed in on the
double-vs.-single-space-at-the-end-of-a-sentence issue, regardless of
what
anyone thinks is proper or old-fashioned, Word is behaving strangely
and
I'd
like to get it fixed.

Any clues as to how to fix the problem would be greatly appreciated.

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Some combinations of settings can produce funky stuff if full
justification
is being used. Does it still act odd if justification is turned off?
What
version of Word is being used? (If Word 2007, take a look at the
Layout
options in Word Options - Advanced, very bottom of the dialog. Are any
of
them turned on? All turned off is the default for Word 2007--if any
are
turned on, ask why, and see if they're related to how Word treats
spaces.)

Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Kimmie B" wrote in message
...
A person on my team is getting funky spacing when he types a double
space
at
the end of a sentence. Instead of using normal proportional
spacing,
Word
stretches out the double space so that it looks more like a triple
or
quadruple space.

Single spaces between words behave normally, as do all other
characters.

Is there some setting that causes elongated double spacing?

To add a wrinkle, he has both Asian and Arabic characters installed
on
his
computer.






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I've never encountered the problem, so it's hard for me to speculate--the
settings I was thinking of I'm not sure get embedded in a document. The fact
that the problem attaches itself to a document is interesting. Like Suzanne,
I'd be interested in taking a look to see if something leaps out at me. If
you'd care to email me a sample, my email address is herb at herbtyson dot
com (disguised a little to try to thwart spam address harvesters).

--

Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Kimmie B" wrote in message
...
Thanks very much Herb.
We use Word 2003, and full justification is turned off. All our docs have
text aligned to the left. Any idea what those funky settings might be?

The problem seems to be unique to one user. We all start docs from the
same
template, and no-one else's computer generates the elongated double
spaces.
However, when we open a doc that that one user created with the elongated
double spaces on our own computer, the odd, elongated spacing persists
within
the doc, even in new sentenes and paragraphs that someone else
subsequently
adds. If this writer opens and works on a doc that someone else started,
the
double-spacing seems to behave normally.

So, this is what I surmise. The template is fine. The problem originates
with settings in one person's computer. Opening the doc on someone else's
computer does not solve the problem. The problem seems to attach itself
to a
doc.

As to others who have so generously weighed in on the
double-vs.-single-space-at-the-end-of-a-sentence issue, regardless of what
anyone thinks is proper or old-fashioned, Word is behaving strangely and
I'd
like to get it fixed.

Any clues as to how to fix the problem would be greatly appreciated.

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Some combinations of settings can produce funky stuff if full
justification
is being used. Does it still act odd if justification is turned off? What
version of Word is being used? (If Word 2007, take a look at the Layout
options in Word Options - Advanced, very bottom of the dialog. Are any of
them turned on? All turned off is the default for Word 2007--if any are
turned on, ask why, and see if they're related to how Word treats
spaces.)

Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Kimmie B" wrote in message
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A person on my team is getting funky spacing when he types a double
space
at
the end of a sentence. Instead of using normal proportional spacing,
Word
stretches out the double space so that it looks more like a triple or
quadruple space.

Single spaces between words behave normally, as do all other
characters.

Is there some setting that causes elongated double spacing?

To add a wrinkle, he has both Asian and Arabic characters installed on
his
computer.



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Is there a reason for typing two spaces after a sentence?

On Sep 3, 6:59*pm, Kimmie B wrote:
A person on my team is getting funky spacing when he types a double space at
the end of a sentence. *Instead of using normal proportional spacing, Word
stretches out the double space so that it looks more like a triple or
quadruple space.

Single spaces between words behave normally, as do all other characters.

Is there some setting that causes elongated double spacing?

To add a wrinkle, he has both Asian and Arabic characters installed on his
computer.


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Yes. Several of my clients want two spaces after periods and the
paying client has the last word. Several industries/corporations
still request/require two spaces regardless of the fact we now type on
a computer instead of a typewriter. There is no set-in-stone rule on
spaces after periods.

Cheryl

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Cheryl,

Brace yourself ;-)

Cheryl Flanders wrote:
Yes. Several of my clients want two spaces after periods and the
paying client has the last word. Several industries/corporations
still request/require two spaces regardless of the fact we now type on
a computer instead of a typewriter. There is no set-in-stone rule on
spaces after periods.

Cheryl

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"Cheryl Flanders" wrote in message
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Yes. Several of my clients want two spaces after periods and the
paying client has the last word.


This says it all! I have a client who insists on two spaces between
sentences too. Even if I don't agree I'm paid to do what they want. grin

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Microsoft Office MVP

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Thank goodness my clients trust my advice (but then I'm an editor and not a
developer).

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"Beth Melton" wrote in message
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"Cheryl Flanders" wrote in message
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Yes. Several of my clients want two spaces after periods and the
paying client has the last word.


This says it all! I have a client who insists on two spaces between
sentences too. Even if I don't agree I'm paid to do what they want. grin

~Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

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My clients trust my advice, but they don't always follow it--and drafts
often go through a dozen or more contributors. So, when I receive drafts, I
change "spacespace" into "space", change incorrect whiches to thats,
and fix other stuff they might be inclined to ignore or change back. And
THEN I turn tracking on. ;-)

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Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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Thank goodness my clients trust my advice (but then I'm an editor and not
a developer).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
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"Cheryl Flanders" wrote in message
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Yes. Several of my clients want two spaces after periods and the
paying client has the last word.


This says it all! I have a client who insists on two spaces between
sentences too. Even if I don't agree I'm paid to do what they want.
grin

~Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

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I forgot to mention those who do insist are government and state agencies.
;-)

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Microsoft Office MVP

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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Thank goodness my clients trust my advice (but then I'm an editor and not
a developer).

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
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"Cheryl Flanders" wrote in message
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Yes. Several of my clients want two spaces after periods and the
paying client has the last word.


This says it all! I have a client who insists on two spaces between
sentences too. Even if I don't agree I'm paid to do what they want.
grin

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