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I'm confused... I'm a very solid user of Word (word processing for 6 years)
but have recently gotten back into the swing of TOCs and have an issue I cannot resolve... 1. In the doc, I modify and apply my native Heading styles for 4 levels that I am using. (I set all Heading styles to 14pt font...) 2. I generate the TOC based on those styles. 3. I modify the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... process. 4. HOWEVER - I need the entire doc to be in 14pt font (Times New Roman) - including the TOC... So when I alter the TOC styles, I choose 14pt font for each of the 4 levels (and their Heading styles throughout the doc are set to 14pt)... **What I end up with is everything looking and spaced perfectly the way I want it - except the TOC font won't budge from 12pt... I had to get the doc out the door, so I just applied direct formatting to 14pt for the TOC, but I really want to know how to do it in the future to make it stick! I don't remember ever having a problem doing this. Am I missing something? Thanks! I lurk on your board most of the time and love all the help you all provide. |
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I should also mention that when I look at the TOC styles (either thru the
styles and formatting pane or thru the InsertReference dialog boxes), they all "say" they are set to 14pt, but it's not what I'm getting... HELP! thanks  "lesaodaniel" wrote: I'm confused... I'm a very solid user of Word (word processing for 6 years) but have recently gotten back into the swing of TOCs and have an issue I cannot resolve... 1. In the doc, I modify and apply my native Heading styles for 4 levels that I am using. (I set all Heading styles to 14pt font...) 2. I generate the TOC based on those styles. 3. I modify the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... process. 4. HOWEVER - I need the entire doc to be in 14pt font (Times New Roman) - including the TOC... So when I alter the TOC styles, I choose 14pt font for each of the 4 levels (and their Heading styles throughout the doc are set to 14pt)... **What I end up with is everything looking and spaced perfectly the way I want it - except the TOC font won't budge from 12pt... I had to get the doc out the door, so I just applied direct formatting to 14pt for the TOC, but I really want to know how to do it in the future to make it stick! I don't remember ever having a problem doing this. Am I missing something? Thanks! I lurk on your board most of the time and love all the help you all provide. |
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Try selecting the TOC and pressing Ctrl+SpaceBar (this clears any direct
font formatting applied to TOC entries). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "lesaodaniel" wrote in message ... I should also mention that when I look at the TOC styles (either thru the styles and formatting pane or thru the InsertReference dialog boxes), they all "say" they are set to 14pt, but it's not what I'm getting... HELP! thanks "lesaodaniel" wrote: I'm confused... I'm a very solid user of Word (word processing for 6 years) but have recently gotten back into the swing of TOCs and have an issue I cannot resolve... 1. In the doc, I modify and apply my native Heading styles for 4 levels that I am using. (I set all Heading styles to 14pt font...) 2. I generate the TOC based on those styles. 3. I modify the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... process. 4. HOWEVER - I need the entire doc to be in 14pt font (Times New Roman) - including the TOC... So when I alter the TOC styles, I choose 14pt font for each of the 4 levels (and their Heading styles throughout the doc are set to 14pt)... **What I end up with is everything looking and spaced perfectly the way I want it - except the TOC font won't budge from 12pt... I had to get the doc out the door, so I just applied direct formatting to 14pt for the TOC, but I really want to know how to do it in the future to make it stick! I don't remember ever having a problem doing this. Am I missing something? Thanks! I lurk on your board most of the time and love all the help you all provide. |
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But I don't want to clear away the direct formatting because I needed to do
that to get the doc out the door for a filing. What I need to know is how to make the font size of 14pt "stick" (because, of course, direct formatting of a TOC disappears if you update the TOC). When I tried modifying the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... dialog boxes, I still get a 12pt font TOC and I need it to be 14pt. I even made doubly sure that the Heading styles in the doc are set to 14pt and they are. I checked the TOC styles through the InsertReference process and the TOC styles are all set to 14pt for all 4 levels I am using... It's a mystery to me as to why this TOC refuses to go to 14pt!!! "Stefan Blom" wrote: Try selecting the TOC and pressing Ctrl+SpaceBar (this clears any direct font formatting applied to TOC entries). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "lesaodaniel" wrote in message ... I should also mention that when I look at the TOC styles (either thru the styles and formatting pane or thru the InsertReference dialog boxes), they all "say" they are set to 14pt, but it's not what I'm getting... HELP! thanks "lesaodaniel" wrote: I'm confused... I'm a very solid user of Word (word processing for 6 years) but have recently gotten back into the swing of TOCs and have an issue I cannot resolve... 1. In the doc, I modify and apply my native Heading styles for 4 levels that I am using. (I set all Heading styles to 14pt font...) 2. I generate the TOC based on those styles. 3. I modify the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... process. 4. HOWEVER - I need the entire doc to be in 14pt font (Times New Roman) - including the TOC... So when I alter the TOC styles, I choose 14pt font for each of the 4 levels (and their Heading styles throughout the doc are set to 14pt)... **What I end up with is everything looking and spaced perfectly the way I want it - except the TOC font won't budge from 12pt... I had to get the doc out the door, so I just applied direct formatting to 14pt for the TOC, but I really want to know how to do it in the future to make it stick! I don't remember ever having a problem doing this. Am I missing something? Thanks! I lurk on your board most of the time and love all the help you all provide. . |
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Sounds like lesa is having some of the same kinds of problems I am.
"Stefan Blom" wrote: Try selecting the TOC and pressing Ctrl+SpaceBar (this clears any direct font formatting applied to TOC entries). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "lesaodaniel" wrote in message ... I should also mention that when I look at the TOC styles (either thru the styles and formatting pane or thru the InsertReference dialog boxes), they all "say" they are set to 14pt, but it's not what I'm getting... HELP! thanks "lesaodaniel" wrote: I'm confused... I'm a very solid user of Word (word processing for 6 years) but have recently gotten back into the swing of TOCs and have an issue I cannot resolve... 1. In the doc, I modify and apply my native Heading styles for 4 levels that I am using. (I set all Heading styles to 14pt font...) 2. I generate the TOC based on those styles. 3. I modify the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... process. 4. HOWEVER - I need the entire doc to be in 14pt font (Times New Roman) - including the TOC... So when I alter the TOC styles, I choose 14pt font for each of the 4 levels (and their Heading styles throughout the doc are set to 14pt)... **What I end up with is everything looking and spaced perfectly the way I want it - except the TOC font won't budge from 12pt... I had to get the doc out the door, so I just applied direct formatting to 14pt for the TOC, but I really want to know how to do it in the future to make it stick! I don't remember ever having a problem doing this. Am I missing something? Thanks! I lurk on your board most of the time and love all the help you all provide. . |
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Toggle the field code - ALT+F9 - you will see something like { TOC \h \z \t
"Title,1" } Put your cursor in the field and the styles dialog will tell you which style is applied - probably TOC1 Modify the TOC style to use 14 points Toggle the field again to display the result. The Heading styles are irrelevant. It is the TOC style that dictates the appearance of the table of contents. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org lesaodaniel wrote: But I don't want to clear away the direct formatting because I needed to do that to get the doc out the door for a filing. What I need to know is how to make the font size of 14pt "stick" (because, of course, direct formatting of a TOC disappears if you update the TOC). When I tried modifying the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... dialog boxes, I still get a 12pt font TOC and I need it to be 14pt. I even made doubly sure that the Heading styles in the doc are set to 14pt and they are. I checked the TOC styles through the InsertReference process and the TOC styles are all set to 14pt for all 4 levels I am using... It's a mystery to me as to why this TOC refuses to go to 14pt!!! "Stefan Blom" wrote: Try selecting the TOC and pressing Ctrl+SpaceBar (this clears any direct font formatting applied to TOC entries). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "lesaodaniel" wrote in message ... I should also mention that when I look at the TOC styles (either thru the styles and formatting pane or thru the InsertReference dialog boxes), they all "say" they are set to 14pt, but it's not what I'm getting... HELP! thanks "lesaodaniel" wrote: I'm confused... I'm a very solid user of Word (word processing for 6 years) but have recently gotten back into the swing of TOCs and have an issue I cannot resolve... 1. In the doc, I modify and apply my native Heading styles for 4 levels that I am using. (I set all Heading styles to 14pt font...) 2. I generate the TOC based on those styles. 3. I modify the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... process. 4. HOWEVER - I need the entire doc to be in 14pt font (Times New Roman) - including the TOC... So when I alter the TOC styles, I choose 14pt font for each of the 4 levels (and their Heading styles throughout the doc are set to 14pt)... **What I end up with is everything looking and spaced perfectly the way I want it - except the TOC font won't budge from 12pt... I had to get the doc out the door, so I just applied direct formatting to 14pt for the TOC, but I really want to know how to do it in the future to make it stick! I don't remember ever having a problem doing this. Am I missing something? Thanks! I lurk on your board most of the time and love all the help you all provide. . |
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Unless of course the headings contain direct font formatting, in which case
their formatting is very much relevant, as direct formatting is reflected in the TOC entries. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Toggle the field code - ALT+F9 - you will see something like { TOC \h \z \t "Title,1" } Put your cursor in the field and the styles dialog will tell you which style is applied - probably TOC1 Modify the TOC style to use 14 points Toggle the field again to display the result. The Heading styles are irrelevant. It is the TOC style that dictates the appearance of the table of contents. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org lesaodaniel wrote: But I don't want to clear away the direct formatting because I needed to do that to get the doc out the door for a filing. What I need to know is how to make the font size of 14pt "stick" (because, of course, direct formatting of a TOC disappears if you update the TOC). When I tried modifying the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... dialog boxes, I still get a 12pt font TOC and I need it to be 14pt. I even made doubly sure that the Heading styles in the doc are set to 14pt and they are. I checked the TOC styles through the InsertReference process and the TOC styles are all set to 14pt for all 4 levels I am using... It's a mystery to me as to why this TOC refuses to go to 14pt!!! "Stefan Blom" wrote: Try selecting the TOC and pressing Ctrl+SpaceBar (this clears any direct font formatting applied to TOC entries). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "lesaodaniel" wrote in message ... I should also mention that when I look at the TOC styles (either thru the styles and formatting pane or thru the InsertReference dialog boxes), they all "say" they are set to 14pt, but it's not what I'm getting... HELP! thanks "lesaodaniel" wrote: I'm confused... I'm a very solid user of Word (word processing for 6 years) but have recently gotten back into the swing of TOCs and have an issue I cannot resolve... 1. In the doc, I modify and apply my native Heading styles for 4 levels that I am using. (I set all Heading styles to 14pt font...) 2. I generate the TOC based on those styles. 3. I modify the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... process. 4. HOWEVER - I need the entire doc to be in 14pt font (Times New Roman) - including the TOC... So when I alter the TOC styles, I choose 14pt font for each of the 4 levels (and their Heading styles throughout the doc are set to 14pt)... **What I end up with is everything looking and spaced perfectly the way I want it - except the TOC font won't budge from 12pt... I had to get the doc out the door, so I just applied direct formatting to 14pt for the TOC, but I really want to know how to do it in the future to make it stick! I don't remember ever having a problem doing this. Am I missing something? Thanks! I lurk on your board most of the time and love all the help you all provide. . |
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But it's pretty clear from what the OP has already written that she has
already modified both heading and TOC styles to be 14-point, so there's something badly wrong (reminiscent of the table style bug). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Unless of course the headings contain direct font formatting, in which case their formatting is very much relevant, as direct formatting is reflected in the TOC entries. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Toggle the field code - ALT+F9 - you will see something like { TOC \h \z \t "Title,1" } Put your cursor in the field and the styles dialog will tell you which style is applied - probably TOC1 Modify the TOC style to use 14 points Toggle the field again to display the result. The Heading styles are irrelevant. It is the TOC style that dictates the appearance of the table of contents. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org lesaodaniel wrote: But I don't want to clear away the direct formatting because I needed to do that to get the doc out the door for a filing. What I need to know is how to make the font size of 14pt "stick" (because, of course, direct formatting of a TOC disappears if you update the TOC). When I tried modifying the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... dialog boxes, I still get a 12pt font TOC and I need it to be 14pt. I even made doubly sure that the Heading styles in the doc are set to 14pt and they are. I checked the TOC styles through the InsertReference process and the TOC styles are all set to 14pt for all 4 levels I am using... It's a mystery to me as to why this TOC refuses to go to 14pt!!! "Stefan Blom" wrote: Try selecting the TOC and pressing Ctrl+SpaceBar (this clears any direct font formatting applied to TOC entries). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "lesaodaniel" wrote in message ... I should also mention that when I look at the TOC styles (either thru the styles and formatting pane or thru the InsertReference dialog boxes), they all "say" they are set to 14pt, but it's not what I'm getting... HELP! thanks "lesaodaniel" wrote: I'm confused... I'm a very solid user of Word (word processing for 6 years) but have recently gotten back into the swing of TOCs and have an issue I cannot resolve... 1. In the doc, I modify and apply my native Heading styles for 4 levels that I am using. (I set all Heading styles to 14pt font...) 2. I generate the TOC based on those styles. 3. I modify the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... process. 4. HOWEVER - I need the entire doc to be in 14pt font (Times New Roman) - including the TOC... So when I alter the TOC styles, I choose 14pt font for each of the 4 levels (and their Heading styles throughout the doc are set to 14pt)... **What I end up with is everything looking and spaced perfectly the way I want it - except the TOC font won't budge from 12pt... I had to get the doc out the door, so I just applied direct formatting to 14pt for the TOC, but I really want to know how to do it in the future to make it stick! I don't remember ever having a problem doing this. Am I missing something? Thanks! I lurk on your board most of the time and love all the help you all provide. . |
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EXACTLY, Suzanne!! Thanks for making me feel like I'm not crazy! But, yes, I
think it's a bug because I feel like I've tried everything... but if anyone can think of anything else that might be the cause or cure, I'd really appreciate it, thanks! "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: But it's pretty clear from what the OP has already written that she has already modified both heading and TOC styles to be 14-point, so there's something badly wrong (reminiscent of the table style bug). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Unless of course the headings contain direct font formatting, in which case their formatting is very much relevant, as direct formatting is reflected in the TOC entries. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Toggle the field code - ALT+F9 - you will see something like { TOC \h \z \t "Title,1" } Put your cursor in the field and the styles dialog will tell you which style is applied - probably TOC1 Modify the TOC style to use 14 points Toggle the field again to display the result. The Heading styles are irrelevant. It is the TOC style that dictates the appearance of the table of contents. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org lesaodaniel wrote: But I don't want to clear away the direct formatting because I needed to do that to get the doc out the door for a filing. What I need to know is how to make the font size of 14pt "stick" (because, of course, direct formatting of a TOC disappears if you update the TOC). When I tried modifying the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... dialog boxes, I still get a 12pt font TOC and I need it to be 14pt. I even made doubly sure that the Heading styles in the doc are set to 14pt and they are. I checked the TOC styles through the InsertReference process and the TOC styles are all set to 14pt for all 4 levels I am using... It's a mystery to me as to why this TOC refuses to go to 14pt!!! "Stefan Blom" wrote: Try selecting the TOC and pressing Ctrl+SpaceBar (this clears any direct font formatting applied to TOC entries). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "lesaodaniel" wrote in message ... I should also mention that when I look at the TOC styles (either thru the styles and formatting pane or thru the InsertReference dialog boxes), they all "say" they are set to 14pt, but it's not what I'm getting... HELP! thanks "lesaodaniel" wrote: I'm confused... I'm a very solid user of Word (word processing for 6 years) but have recently gotten back into the swing of TOCs and have an issue I cannot resolve... 1. In the doc, I modify and apply my native Heading styles for 4 levels that I am using. (I set all Heading styles to 14pt font...) 2. I generate the TOC based on those styles. 3. I modify the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... process. 4. HOWEVER - I need the entire doc to be in 14pt font (Times New Roman) - including the TOC... So when I alter the TOC styles, I choose 14pt font for each of the 4 levels (and their Heading styles throughout the doc are set to 14pt)... **What I end up with is everything looking and spaced perfectly the way I want it - except the TOC font won't budge from 12pt... I had to get the doc out the door, so I just applied direct formatting to 14pt for the TOC, but I really want to know how to do it in the future to make it stick! I don't remember ever having a problem doing this. Am I missing something? Thanks! I lurk on your board most of the time and love all the help you all provide. . . |
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You could treat the document as corrupt. Copy the contents, except for the
TOC and the final paragraph mark (¶), into a new document. Recreate the formatting. When you insert a TOC, now does it work properly? To show/hide paragraph marks as well as other nonprinting marks, you can press Ctrl+Shift+8. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "lesaodaniel" wrote in message ... EXACTLY, Suzanne!! Thanks for making me feel like I'm not crazy! But, yes, I think it's a bug because I feel like I've tried everything... but if anyone can think of anything else that might be the cause or cure, I'd really appreciate it, thanks! "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: But it's pretty clear from what the OP has already written that she has already modified both heading and TOC styles to be 14-point, so there's something badly wrong (reminiscent of the table style bug). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Unless of course the headings contain direct font formatting, in which case their formatting is very much relevant, as direct formatting is reflected in the TOC entries. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Toggle the field code - ALT+F9 - you will see something like { TOC \h \z \t "Title,1" } Put your cursor in the field and the styles dialog will tell you which style is applied - probably TOC1 Modify the TOC style to use 14 points Toggle the field again to display the result. The Heading styles are irrelevant. It is the TOC style that dictates the appearance of the table of contents. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org lesaodaniel wrote: But I don't want to clear away the direct formatting because I needed to do that to get the doc out the door for a filing. What I need to know is how to make the font size of 14pt "stick" (because, of course, direct formatting of a TOC disappears if you update the TOC). When I tried modifying the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... dialog boxes, I still get a 12pt font TOC and I need it to be 14pt. I even made doubly sure that the Heading styles in the doc are set to 14pt and they are. I checked the TOC styles through the InsertReference process and the TOC styles are all set to 14pt for all 4 levels I am using... It's a mystery to me as to why this TOC refuses to go to 14pt!!! "Stefan Blom" wrote: Try selecting the TOC and pressing Ctrl+SpaceBar (this clears any direct font formatting applied to TOC entries). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "lesaodaniel" wrote in message ... I should also mention that when I look at the TOC styles (either thru the styles and formatting pane or thru the InsertReference dialog boxes), they all "say" they are set to 14pt, but it's not what I'm getting... HELP! thanks "lesaodaniel" wrote: I'm confused... I'm a very solid user of Word (word processing for 6 years) but have recently gotten back into the swing of TOCs and have an issue I cannot resolve... 1. In the doc, I modify and apply my native Heading styles for 4 levels that I am using. (I set all Heading styles to 14pt font...) 2. I generate the TOC based on those styles. 3. I modify the TOC styles through the INSERTREFERENCE... process. 4. HOWEVER - I need the entire doc to be in 14pt font (Times New Roman) - including the TOC... So when I alter the TOC styles, I choose 14pt font for each of the 4 levels (and their Heading styles throughout the doc are set to 14pt)... **What I end up with is everything looking and spaced perfectly the way I want it - except the TOC font won't budge from 12pt... I had to get the doc out the door, so I just applied direct formatting to 14pt for the TOC, but I really want to know how to do it in the future to make it stick! I don't remember ever having a problem doing this. Am I missing something? Thanks! I lurk on your board most of the time and love all the help you all provide. . . |
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