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Why no RTF newsgroup?
Am I missing something, or is there not a newsgroup specifically for RTF
questions? Doesn't it seem odd that we have newsgroups for every other possible subset of human existence, but not this particular format specification? Chris |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
Given that RTF is a universal format, not one specific to MS Word, I can't
see why there would be a Microsoft NG devoted to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Am I missing something, or is there not a newsgroup specifically for RTF questions? Doesn't it seem odd that we have newsgroups for every other possible subset of human existence, but not this particular format specification? Chris |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
But there are no newsgroups anywhere - not just no Microsoft newsgroups ...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Given that RTF is a universal format, not one specific to MS Word, I can't see why there would be a Microsoft NG devoted to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Am I missing something, or is there not a newsgroup specifically for RTF questions? Doesn't it seem odd that we have newsgroups for every other possible subset of human existence, but not this particular format specification? Chris |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
Create your own then. Who do you think should pay for it?
"Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... But there are no newsgroups anywhere - not just no Microsoft newsgroups ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Given that RTF is a universal format, not one specific to MS Word, I can't see why there would be a Microsoft NG devoted to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Am I missing something, or is there not a newsgroup specifically for RTF questions? Doesn't it seem odd that we have newsgroups for every other possible subset of human existence, but not this particular format specification? Chris |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
Well, that's not something Microsoft can fix. My understanding of Usenet is
that any user can propose a new NG, but the NG into which you have posted is "owned" by Microsoft, not actually part of Usenet. In any case, this issue is not in any way relevant to use of tables in Microsoft Word. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... But there are no newsgroups anywhere - not just no Microsoft newsgroups .... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Given that RTF is a universal format, not one specific to MS Word, I can't see why there would be a Microsoft NG devoted to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Am I missing something, or is there not a newsgroup specifically for RTF questions? Doesn't it seem odd that we have newsgroups for every other possible subset of human existence, but not this particular format specification? Chris |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
Um ... good question ... pardon me all to pieces for being new to this, but
how does one start a new newsgroup? How much does it cost? "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Create your own then. Who do you think should pay for it? "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... But there are no newsgroups anywhere - not just no Microsoft newsgroups ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Given that RTF is a universal format, not one specific to MS Word, I can't see why there would be a Microsoft NG devoted to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Am I missing something, or is there not a newsgroup specifically for RTF questions? Doesn't it seem odd that we have newsgroups for every other possible subset of human existence, but not this particular format specification? Chris |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
Well, it's relevant in that Word uses RTF, one can generate tables in Word
using RTF, and Microsoft kind of invented it. Also, any discussion of starting a new newsgroup must, by definition, take place in a newsgroup that is not the correct newsgroup, yes? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Well, that's not something Microsoft can fix. My understanding of Usenet is that any user can propose a new NG, but the NG into which you have posted is "owned" by Microsoft, not actually part of Usenet. In any case, this issue is not in any way relevant to use of tables in Microsoft Word. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... But there are no newsgroups anywhere - not just no Microsoft newsgroups ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Given that RTF is a universal format, not one specific to MS Word, I can't see why there would be a Microsoft NG devoted to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Am I missing something, or is there not a newsgroup specifically for RTF questions? Doesn't it seem odd that we have newsgroups for every other possible subset of human existence, but not this particular format specification? Chris |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
Disclaimer: I have no personal knowledge about this at all. But see
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/crea...sgroups/part1/, which is the first hit in a Google search for "create Usenet newsgroup." Another hit is http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/big-eight.html -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Um ... good question ... pardon me all to pieces for being new to this, but how does one start a new newsgroup? How much does it cost? "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Create your own then. Who do you think should pay for it? "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... But there are no newsgroups anywhere - not just no Microsoft newsgroups ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Given that RTF is a universal format, not one specific to MS Word, I can't see why there would be a Microsoft NG devoted to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Am I missing something, or is there not a newsgroup specifically for RTF questions? Doesn't it seem odd that we have newsgroups for every other possible subset of human existence, but not this particular format specification? Chris |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
Word uses plain text, too; but that hardly makes MS responsible for the
definition thereof. The main value of RTF (such as remains to it) is precisely that MS does NOT control the standard. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Well, it's relevant in that Word uses RTF, one can generate tables in Word using RTF, and Microsoft kind of invented it. Also, any discussion of starting a new newsgroup must, by definition, take place in a newsgroup that is not the correct newsgroup, yes? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Well, that's not something Microsoft can fix. My understanding of Usenet is that any user can propose a new NG, but the NG into which you have posted is "owned" by Microsoft, not actually part of Usenet. In any case, this issue is not in any way relevant to use of tables in Microsoft Word. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... But there are no newsgroups anywhere - not just no Microsoft newsgroups ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Given that RTF is a universal format, not one specific to MS Word, I can't see why there would be a Microsoft NG devoted to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Am I missing something, or is there not a newsgroup specifically for RTF questions? Doesn't it seem odd that we have newsgroups for every other possible subset of human existence, but not this particular format specification? Chris |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
Who does "control" it then? It seems like Microsoft keeps adding tags to
it, I don't know if any other companies are "allowed" to do that ... "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Word uses plain text, too; but that hardly makes MS responsible for the definition thereof. The main value of RTF (such as remains to it) is precisely that MS does NOT control the standard. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Well, it's relevant in that Word uses RTF, one can generate tables in Word using RTF, and Microsoft kind of invented it. Also, any discussion of starting a new newsgroup must, by definition, take place in a newsgroup that is not the correct newsgroup, yes? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Well, that's not something Microsoft can fix. My understanding of Usenet is that any user can propose a new NG, but the NG into which you have posted is "owned" by Microsoft, not actually part of Usenet. In any case, this issue is not in any way relevant to use of tables in Microsoft Word. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... But there are no newsgroups anywhere - not just no Microsoft newsgroups ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Given that RTF is a universal format, not one specific to MS Word, I can't see why there would be a Microsoft NG devoted to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Am I missing something, or is there not a newsgroup specifically for RTF questions? Doesn't it seem odd that we have newsgroups for every other possible subset of human existence, but not this particular format specification? Chris |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
Although the RTF specification is published, unlike the Word binary
format, it is still a proprietary Microsoft format. The Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Text_Format has links to the various revisions, including the 1.9 revision that was published last month. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:40:46 -0700, "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote: Who does "control" it then? It seems like Microsoft keeps adding tags to it, I don't know if any other companies are "allowed" to do that ... "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Word uses plain text, too; but that hardly makes MS responsible for the definition thereof. The main value of RTF (such as remains to it) is precisely that MS does NOT control the standard. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Well, it's relevant in that Word uses RTF, one can generate tables in Word using RTF, and Microsoft kind of invented it. Also, any discussion of starting a new newsgroup must, by definition, take place in a newsgroup that is not the correct newsgroup, yes? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Well, that's not something Microsoft can fix. My understanding of Usenet is that any user can propose a new NG, but the NG into which you have posted is "owned" by Microsoft, not actually part of Usenet. In any case, this issue is not in any way relevant to use of tables in Microsoft Word. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... But there are no newsgroups anywhere - not just no Microsoft newsgroups ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Given that RTF is a universal format, not one specific to MS Word, I can't see why there would be a Microsoft NG devoted to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Am I missing something, or is there not a newsgroup specifically for RTF questions? Doesn't it seem odd that we have newsgroups for every other possible subset of human existence, but not this particular format specification? Chris |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
So then it should be a Microsoft newsgroup? microsoft.public.rtf?
Is there any way to suggest such a thing to Microsoft? "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... Although the RTF specification is published, unlike the Word binary format, it is still a proprietary Microsoft format. The Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Text_Format has links to the various revisions, including the 1.9 revision that was published last month. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:40:46 -0700, "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote: Who does "control" it then? It seems like Microsoft keeps adding tags to it, I don't know if any other companies are "allowed" to do that ... "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Word uses plain text, too; but that hardly makes MS responsible for the definition thereof. The main value of RTF (such as remains to it) is precisely that MS does NOT control the standard. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Well, it's relevant in that Word uses RTF, one can generate tables in Word using RTF, and Microsoft kind of invented it. Also, any discussion of starting a new newsgroup must, by definition, take place in a newsgroup that is not the correct newsgroup, yes? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Well, that's not something Microsoft can fix. My understanding of Usenet is that any user can propose a new NG, but the NG into which you have posted is "owned" by Microsoft, not actually part of Usenet. In any case, this issue is not in any way relevant to use of tables in Microsoft Word. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... But there are no newsgroups anywhere - not just no Microsoft newsgroups ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Given that RTF is a universal format, not one specific to MS Word, I can't see why there would be a Microsoft NG devoted to it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... Am I missing something, or is there not a newsgroup specifically for RTF questions? Doesn't it seem odd that we have newsgroups for every other possible subset of human existence, but not this particular format specification? Chris |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
"Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote
Well, it's relevant in that Word uses RTF, one can generate tables in Word using RTF, and Microsoft kind of invented it. I'd presume there's no microsoft.public.word.rtf newsgroup because they thought there wouldn't be enough posts on the subject to warrant the overhead or that such posts could/would be handled in another existing newsgroup. Also, any discussion of starting a new newsgroup must, by definition, take place in a newsgroup that is not the correct newsgroup, yes? No, as a matter of fact, there are USENET newsgroups for that purpose. The name(s?) begin with news.groups. You can find links to information on Newsgroup Creation Policies and to a FAQ at the bottom of the page at http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php. There are also links to information on unmanaged hierarchies, such as alt. and rec. Larry |
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Why no RTF newsgroup?
Hi Chris,
Generally, the Rich Text Format would be in the 'deprecated' (not a primary format) from MS's perspective going forward, especially with the use of XML file formats as the primary ones for the Office products starting with the 2007 versions, but the Word newsgroups have tended to more by functionallity rather than internals or version. Questions on RTF within Word have tended to show up in the Word conversions group (link below) or one of the Word/Office Developer newsgroups (depending on what language or programming tool you're using to consume or create RTF content outside of Word), or one of the sites MS has started proliferating that don't have microsoft.com as part of the domain name g such as the Open XML site at http://openxmldeveloper.org Was there a specific question on Word tables and RTF (and the version of Word) in this instance? ================= "Chris Shearer Cooper" wrote in message ... So then it should be a Microsoft newsgroup? microsoft.public.rtf? Is there any way to suggest such a thing to Microsoft? -- Please let us know if this has helped, Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends LINKS A. Specific newsgroup/discussion group mentioned in this message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...rd.conversions or via browser: http://microsoft.com/communities/new...rd.conversions B. MS Office Community discussion/newsgroups via Web Browser http://microsoft.com/office/communit...s/default.mspx or Microsoft hosted newsgroups via Outlook Express/newsreader news://msnews.microsoft.com |
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