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I've grown up writing large tech reports involving a multitude (200+)
graphics. Over the years (decades), I've learned to avoid anchors, frames,
etc. I have a style Figure (centered, keep with next), Figure Title to be the
format for the caption I insert (under the figure) and same with a table: the
caption appearing ABOVE, and formatted as a keep with next paragraph.

I have a large report wherein a user created anchors and scores of carriage
returns to create blank space...and though the file is HUGE, I can see the
anchors over at his site, but FTPing a zipped version of the file to myself,
all the anchored graphics are GONE (the size is there, but no pix, no
anchors, and Edit Go to Graphic proves that all but 11 of the 200 or so
pix are simply missing.

Where'd they go?

Short of wanting fancy brochure-style wrap around text to flow around a
picture, I see no purpose in anchoring a graphic...actually, what I see is an
impossible to predict behavior of the graphic and it's anchor (what is that
thing attached to?!). I've put anchored graphics at absolute locations of a
page (works good for a Company logo to be stuck in the Header, for example),
thus repeating in exactly the same place on every page.

How can I recover the missing anchored pix? Is this a problem when
zipping/unzipping a file? As far as I know both myself and the other user
have XP OS and Office 2003. Would different versions of WinZip cause this
anomaly? What does Word do with anchored graphics?
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The missing graphics may be linked rather than embedded.

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"jenelle" wrote in message
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I've grown up writing large tech reports involving a multitude (200+)
graphics. Over the years (decades), I've learned to avoid anchors, frames,
etc. I have a style Figure (centered, keep with next), Figure Title to be

the
format for the caption I insert (under the figure) and same with a table:

the
caption appearing ABOVE, and formatted as a keep with next paragraph.

I have a large report wherein a user created anchors and scores of

carriage
returns to create blank space...and though the file is HUGE, I can see the
anchors over at his site, but FTPing a zipped version of the file to

myself,
all the anchored graphics are GONE (the size is there, but no pix, no
anchors, and Edit Go to Graphic proves that all but 11 of the 200 or

so
pix are simply missing.

Where'd they go?

Short of wanting fancy brochure-style wrap around text to flow around a
picture, I see no purpose in anchoring a graphic...actually, what I see is

an
impossible to predict behavior of the graphic and it's anchor (what is

that
thing attached to?!). I've put anchored graphics at absolute locations of

a
page (works good for a Company logo to be stuck in the Header, for

example),
thus repeating in exactly the same place on every page.

How can I recover the missing anchored pix? Is this a problem when
zipping/unzipping a file? As far as I know both myself and the other user
have XP OS and Office 2003. Would different versions of WinZip cause this
anomaly? What does Word do with anchored graphics?


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They may be both linked AND embedded.
VERY odd: the Tools Options setting on View tab for print and layout options
had everything unchecked--including drawings and objects. NOT my settings,
but it did happen on this 410 page document. How come customer can see the
drawings and I cannot? These aren't toggle settings.

There's no VB nor macros in this document.


How do I get rid of the anchors from the graphics...this capability seems to
have disappeared in 2003 Word.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The missing graphics may be linked rather than embedded.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"jenelle" wrote in message
...

I've grown up writing large tech reports involving a multitude (200+)
graphics. Over the years (decades), I've learned to avoid anchors, frames,
etc. I have a style Figure (centered, keep with next), Figure Title to be

the
format for the caption I insert (under the figure) and same with a table:

the
caption appearing ABOVE, and formatted as a keep with next paragraph.

I have a large report wherein a user created anchors and scores of

carriage
returns to create blank space...and though the file is HUGE, I can see the
anchors over at his site, but FTPing a zipped version of the file to

myself,
all the anchored graphics are GONE (the size is there, but no pix, no
anchors, and Edit Go to Graphic proves that all but 11 of the 200 or

so
pix are simply missing.

Where'd they go?

Short of wanting fancy brochure-style wrap around text to flow around a
picture, I see no purpose in anchoring a graphic...actually, what I see is

an
impossible to predict behavior of the graphic and it's anchor (what is

that
thing attached to?!). I've put anchored graphics at absolute locations of

a
page (works good for a Company logo to be stuck in the Header, for

example),
thus repeating in exactly the same place on every page.

How can I recover the missing anchored pix? Is this a problem when
zipping/unzipping a file? As far as I know both myself and the other user
have XP OS and Office 2003. Would different versions of WinZip cause this
anomaly? What does Word do with anchored graphics?



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Bob Buckland ?:-\)
 
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Hi Jenelle,

Graphics that are not formatted with layout style of
'inline with text' will always have an anchor to
a paragraph, table cell or other finite point in the
text layer of Word. The anchors are not visible unless
you turn that option on in Tools=Options=View, but
they are there. The options in that tab are controlled
by the person viewing the document rather than by
the author of the document.

If the graphics are linked and you move the document
to another folder then Word may 'lose track' of how
to connect back to the graphics.

Can you print preview or print a page with the 'missing'
graphic and have it appear then?

======
"jenelle" wrote in message news They may be both linked AND embedded.
VERY odd: the Tools Options setting on View tab for print and layout options
had everything unchecked--including drawings and objects. NOT my settings,
but it did happen on this 410 page document. How come customer can see the
drawings and I cannot? These aren't toggle settings.

There's no VB nor macros in this document.


How do I get rid of the anchors from the graphics...this capability seems to
have disappeared in 2003 Word.
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Office 2003 Editions explained
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/office/editions.mspx


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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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If you don't have "Drawings" checked on the View tab, then you will not see
any objects in the drawing layer, which include wrapped graphics.

If you're seeing an object anchor, then this means that the graphic is
wrapped. If you want it to be inline, click on it to display the Picture
toolbar, then click on the Text Wrapping button (dog icon) and select In
Line With Text.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"jenelle" wrote in message
news
They may be both linked AND embedded.
VERY odd: the Tools Options setting on View tab for print and layout

options
had everything unchecked--including drawings and objects. NOT my settings,
but it did happen on this 410 page document. How come customer can see the
drawings and I cannot? These aren't toggle settings.

There's no VB nor macros in this document.


How do I get rid of the anchors from the graphics...this capability seems

to
have disappeared in 2003 Word.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The missing graphics may be linked rather than embedded.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"jenelle" wrote in message
...

I've grown up writing large tech reports involving a multitude (200+)
graphics. Over the years (decades), I've learned to avoid anchors,

frames,
etc. I have a style Figure (centered, keep with next), Figure Title to

be
the
format for the caption I insert (under the figure) and same with a

table:
the
caption appearing ABOVE, and formatted as a keep with next paragraph.

I have a large report wherein a user created anchors and scores of

carriage
returns to create blank space...and though the file is HUGE, I can see

the
anchors over at his site, but FTPing a zipped version of the file to

myself,
all the anchored graphics are GONE (the size is there, but no pix, no
anchors, and Edit Go to Graphic proves that all but 11 of the 200

or
so
pix are simply missing.

Where'd they go?

Short of wanting fancy brochure-style wrap around text to flow around

a
picture, I see no purpose in anchoring a graphic...actually, what I

see is
an
impossible to predict behavior of the graphic and it's anchor (what is

that
thing attached to?!). I've put anchored graphics at absolute locations

of
a
page (works good for a Company logo to be stuck in the Header, for

example),
thus repeating in exactly the same place on every page.

How can I recover the missing anchored pix? Is this a problem when
zipping/unzipping a file? As far as I know both myself and the other

user
have XP OS and Office 2003. Would different versions of WinZip cause

this
anomaly? What does Word do with anchored graphics?






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To describe the strangeness of this single document, the very first graphic
(by choosing Edit Go To Graphic) was 11-15, fllowed by 11-16, 11-17, then
11-20 thru 11-25.

The graphics in the first 10 chapters and first 14 of Ch 11 didn't display.
But the ones above did. Indeed the checkbox (Tools, Options, View - ) was
unchecked. When checked, most, if not all, graphics display, but are off the
page (above, below, right, etc, etc)

Does "Go To Graphic" ignore graphics????

I tried to globally remove anchors, but running through the Format
Frames....Remove Frame (or set In line)...went through the settings to do
this, however, response was no anchors found (no matter how I mess with the
UI). However, I can SEE anchors when I mouse over some things.
Its 400+ pages. Does doc size affect stability of formatting?
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I think Browse by Graphic (same as Go To Graphic) finds only inline
graphics. Word doesn't ever handle anything in the drawing layer very well.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"jenelle" wrote in message
...
To describe the strangeness of this single document, the very first

graphic
(by choosing Edit Go To Graphic) was 11-15, fllowed by 11-16, 11-17,

then
11-20 thru 11-25.

The graphics in the first 10 chapters and first 14 of Ch 11 didn't

display.
But the ones above did. Indeed the checkbox (Tools, Options, View - ) was
unchecked. When checked, most, if not all, graphics display, but are off

the
page (above, below, right, etc, etc)

Does "Go To Graphic" ignore graphics????

I tried to globally remove anchors, but running through the Format
Frames....Remove Frame (or set In line)...went through the settings to do
this, however, response was no anchors found (no matter how I mess with

the
UI). However, I can SEE anchors when I mouse over some things.
Its 400+ pages. Does doc size affect stability of formatting?


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Suzanne!

Are you saying that Go To Graphic command doesn't recognize anchored graphics?

I have Office/Word 2003 books by Que Publishing...do you have any
recommendations for additional tech info regarding Word's drawing layer?!

TIA,

Jenelle


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I think Browse by Graphic (same as Go To Graphic) finds only inline
graphics. Word doesn't ever handle anything in the drawing layer very well.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"jenelle" wrote in message
...
To describe the strangeness of this single document, the very first

graphic
(by choosing Edit Go To Graphic) was 11-15, fllowed by 11-16, 11-17,

then
11-20 thru 11-25.

The graphics in the first 10 chapters and first 14 of Ch 11 didn't

display.
But the ones above did. Indeed the checkbox (Tools, Options, View - ) was
unchecked. When checked, most, if not all, graphics display, but are off

the
page (above, below, right, etc, etc)

Does "Go To Graphic" ignore graphics????

I tried to globally remove anchors, but running through the Format
Frames....Remove Frame (or set In line)...went through the settings to do
this, however, response was no anchors found (no matter how I mess with

the
UI). However, I can SEE anchors when I mouse over some things.
Its 400+ pages. Does doc size affect stability of formatting?



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Hi Suzanne,

FWIW, if all of the graphics in a section are
wrapped and you have a graphic currently selected
then browse-by-graphic will take you to
that graphic's anchor position when you select 'next',
but then doesn't know where to go next.

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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...
I think Browse by Graphic (same as Go To Graphic) finds only inline
graphics. Word doesn't ever handle anything in the drawing layer very well.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Office 2003 Editions explained
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/office/editions.mspx




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