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Default Can you figure this out?

I was trying to create a simple form with Word 2007. I placed several
tables on a page and then proceeded to delete a row from the top table.

Oddly enough, this caused another table to jump to the top portion of the
page and it would not be placed back into position. It's the strangest
(stupidest) thing I have ever seen in Word.

It's really hard to explain well without showing it to you, so please take a
look at the video of my problem at http://www.mediafire.com/?bx1svd4zzjp and
let me know if you have a solution to this. (The video file is WMV and
about 2.5 Mb.)

Thanks!

jim



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I don't have a clue why about your problem, but your video is impressive !


"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I was trying to create a simple form with Word 2007. I placed several
tables on a page and then proceeded to delete a row from the top table.

Oddly enough, this caused another table to jump to the top portion of the
page and it would not be placed back into position. It's the strangest
(stupidest) thing I have ever seen in Word.

It's really hard to explain well without showing it to you, so please take
a look at the video of my problem at http://www.mediafire.com/?bx1svd4zzjp
and let me know if you have a solution to this. (The video file is WMV
and about 2.5 Mb.)

Thanks!

jim





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I can't see your paragraph/formatting marks but I suspect the underlying
issue is due to where your floating tables are anchored. Since your document
doesn't appear to need to use floating tables I suspect once you set them to
inline the issue will be resolved. In the Table Properties (on the Layout
tab of the contextual Table Tools) try setting the Text wrapping to None.

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https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton

What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

"jim" wrote in message
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I was trying to create a simple form with Word 2007. I placed several
tables on a page and then proceeded to delete a row from the top table.

Oddly enough, this caused another table to jump to the top portion of the
page and it would not be placed back into position. It's the strangest
(stupidest) thing I have ever seen in Word.

It's really hard to explain well without showing it to you, so please take
a look at the video of my problem at http://www.mediafire.com/?bx1svd4zzjp
and let me know if you have a solution to this. (The video file is WMV
and about 2.5 Mb.)

Thanks!

jim





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I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd get it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
I can't see your paragraph/formatting marks but I suspect the underlying
issue is due to where your floating tables are anchored. Since your
document doesn't appear to need to use floating tables I suspect once you
set them to inline the issue will be resolved. In the Table Properties (on
the Layout tab of the contextual Table Tools) try setting the Text wrapping
to None.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton

What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

"jim" wrote in message
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I was trying to create a simple form with Word 2007. I placed several
tables on a page and then proceeded to delete a row from the top table.

Oddly enough, this caused another table to jump to the top portion of the
page and it would not be placed back into position. It's the strangest
(stupidest) thing I have ever seen in Word.

It's really hard to explain well without showing it to you, so please
take a look at the video of my problem at
http://www.mediafire.com/?bx1svd4zzjp and let me know if you have a
solution to this. (The video file is WMV and about 2.5 Mb.)

Thanks!

jim







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Thanks. It's Camtasia Studio. It makes making videos easy. You should
check it out.

There are free alternatives like Windows Media Encoder at
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...r/default.mspx
and ScreenCoder at http://www.merage.uci.edu/~dvdotnet/screencoder.html amd
CamStudio which is open sourced and free at http://camstudio.org/.

I haven't tried the alternatives myself, but CamStudio looks pretty good.

jim


"Jan Groshan" wrote in message
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I don't have a clue why about your problem, but your video is impressive !


"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I was trying to create a simple form with Word 2007. I placed several
tables on a page and then proceeded to delete a row from the top table.

Oddly enough, this caused another table to jump to the top portion of the
page and it would not be placed back into position. It's the strangest
(stupidest) thing I have ever seen in Word.

It's really hard to explain well without showing it to you, so please
take a look at the video of my problem at
http://www.mediafire.com/?bx1svd4zzjp and let me know if you have a
solution to this. (The video file is WMV and about 2.5 Mb.)

Thanks!

jim









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No, no, you *want* the text to wrap in the cells! On the Table tab of Table
Properties, you want to change "Text wrapping" from Around to None.

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Words into Type
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"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd get
it and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
I can't see your paragraph/formatting marks but I suspect the underlying
issue is due to where your floating tables are anchored. Since your
document doesn't appear to need to use floating tables I suspect once you
set them to inline the issue will be resolved. In the Table Properties (on
the Layout tab of the contextual Table Tools) try setting the Text
wrapping to None.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton

What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

"jim" wrote in message
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I was trying to create a simple form with Word 2007. I placed several
tables on a page and then proceeded to delete a row from the top table.

Oddly enough, this caused another table to jump to the top portion of
the page and it would not be placed back into position. It's the
strangest (stupidest) thing I have ever seen in Word.

It's really hard to explain well without showing it to you, so please
take a look at the video of my problem at
http://www.mediafire.com/?bx1svd4zzjp and let me know if you have a
solution to this. (The video file is WMV and about 2.5 Mb.)

Thanks!

jim









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Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create to the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message . ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd get it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
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Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*


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I'm sorry but when I completely recretaed the document I overwrote the old
name with the new document.

However, I was able to recreate a document with some of the same strange
behavior and you can download it from http://www.mediafire.com/?0zmf4jfn9ff
..

There are 3 tables on the document. Try moving the bottommost table as
close as possible to the middle table (without touching it) and it should
jump to the top portion of the page and be a real pain to drag back below
the other tables.

I can post a video of it if you like.

jim



"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create to
the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd get
it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*




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For each table, try this: Right-click the table, and choose Table Properties
from the context menu. In the Table Properties dialog box, click the Table
tab. Click Positioning. Clear "Move with text" and "Allow overlap" and click
OK. Click OK to close the Table Properties dialog.

Now you should be able to drag the tables as you wish.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
.. .
I'm sorry but when I completely recretaed the document I overwrote the old
name with the new document.

However, I was able to recreate a document with some of the same strange
behavior and you can download it from
http://www.mediafire.com/?0zmf4jfn9ff .

There are 3 tables on the document. Try moving the bottommost table as
close as possible to the middle table (without touching it) and it should
jump to the top portion of the page and be a real pain to drag back below
the other tables.

I can post a video of it if you like.

jim



"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create to
the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the
edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot
find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd get
it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*








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That makes thing MUCH easier! But, you should also know that the
Positioning button is not enabled until you have dragged a table. Before
dragging a table the Positioning button is disabled - which doesn't make a
whole lot of sense to me.

Thanks Stefan!

BTW, is there a way to make this the default setting for Word?

jim

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
For each table, try this: Right-click the table, and choose Table
Properties
from the context menu. In the Table Properties dialog box, click the Table
tab. Click Positioning. Clear "Move with text" and "Allow overlap" and
click
OK. Click OK to close the Table Properties dialog.

Now you should be able to drag the tables as you wish.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
.. .
I'm sorry but when I completely recretaed the document I overwrote the
old
name with the new document.

However, I was able to recreate a document with some of the same strange
behavior and you can download it from
http://www.mediafire.com/?0zmf4jfn9ff .

There are 3 tables on the document. Try moving the bottommost table as
close as possible to the middle table (without touching it) and it should
jump to the top portion of the page and be a real pain to drag back below
the other tables.

I can post a video of it if you like.

jim



"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create to
the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the
edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot
find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd
get
it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*












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Strictly speaking, the Positioning button will be active for tables whose
"Text wrapping" (on the Table tab of the Table Properties dialog box) is set
to "Around"; this is exactly what is accomplished by dragging the table.

No, unfortunately you cannot change the defaults to include this formatting.
This applies even if you are using a Word version that supports table
styles, since Positioning options cannot be added to a table style (they are
greyed out in Modify Style, Format, Table Properties).

What you can do is create an "example table" with the desired settings and
then make an AutoText entry which can be inserted whenever you want this
formatting.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
.. .
That makes thing MUCH easier! But, you should also know that the
Positioning button is not enabled until you have dragged a table. Before
dragging a table the Positioning button is disabled - which doesn't make a
whole lot of sense to me.

Thanks Stefan!

BTW, is there a way to make this the default setting for Word?

jim

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
For each table, try this: Right-click the table, and choose Table
Properties
from the context menu. In the Table Properties dialog box, click the
Table
tab. Click Positioning. Clear "Move with text" and "Allow overlap" and
click
OK. Click OK to close the Table Properties dialog.

Now you should be able to drag the tables as you wish.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
.. .
I'm sorry but when I completely recretaed the document I overwrote the
old
name with the new document.

However, I was able to recreate a document with some of the same strange
behavior and you can download it from
http://www.mediafire.com/?0zmf4jfn9ff .

There are 3 tables on the document. Try moving the bottommost table as
close as possible to the middle table (without touching it) and it
should
jump to the top portion of the page and be a real pain to drag back
below
the other tables.

I can post a video of it if you like.

jim



"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create
to
the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message
neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the
edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot
find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd
get
it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*















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As Stefan noted, the Positioning options are only available for floating
tables. I think you would be much happier if you used inline tables in which
each table is anchored to its own paragraph mark. In your sample document
they are all anchored to the same paragraph mark, which is what I suspected
initially. To view what I'm referring to, on the Home tab, in the Paragraph
group, click the Show/Hide (¶) button and note the single paragraph mark
below the second table and off to the right.

For inline tables, when you insert your tables you need to press Enter below
the table before inserting another one. That way they will each have their
own "anchor point". Right now they are all sharing the same one which is why
they are essentially 'fighting' over their current positions -- as far as
your tables are concerned, there is no clear indication for which one is
belongs at the top.

You'll also need to refrain from dragging the tables which is what converts
them from inline to floating. To move them use cut/paste instead.

Also, for future reference, sample files are better (and faster) for us than
videos. Typically we can "see" what is happening based on your description
but in order to determine why it's happening we need to be able to view the
actual document. :-)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton

What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

"jim" wrote in message
.. .
That makes thing MUCH easier! But, you should also know that the
Positioning button is not enabled until you have dragged a table. Before
dragging a table the Positioning button is disabled - which doesn't make a
whole lot of sense to me.

Thanks Stefan!

BTW, is there a way to make this the default setting for Word?

jim

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
For each table, try this: Right-click the table, and choose Table
Properties
from the context menu. In the Table Properties dialog box, click the
Table
tab. Click Positioning. Clear "Move with text" and "Allow overlap" and
click
OK. Click OK to close the Table Properties dialog.

Now you should be able to drag the tables as you wish.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
.. .
I'm sorry but when I completely recretaed the document I overwrote the
old
name with the new document.

However, I was able to recreate a document with some of the same strange
behavior and you can download it from
http://www.mediafire.com/?0zmf4jfn9ff .

There are 3 tables on the document. Try moving the bottommost table as
close as possible to the middle table (without touching it) and it
should
jump to the top portion of the page and be a real pain to drag back
below
the other tables.

I can post a video of it if you like.

jim



"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create
to
the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message
neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the
edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot
find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd
get
it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*












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Great tip! I did just that...now I can simply add the single cell table and
adjust it as needed.

Thanks again!

jim

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Strictly speaking, the Positioning button will be active for tables whose
"Text wrapping" (on the Table tab of the Table Properties dialog box) is
set
to "Around"; this is exactly what is accomplished by dragging the table.

No, unfortunately you cannot change the defaults to include this
formatting. This applies even if you are using a Word version that
supports table styles, since Positioning options cannot be added to a
table style (they are greyed out in Modify Style, Format, Table
Properties).

What you can do is create an "example table" with the desired settings and
then make an AutoText entry which can be inserted whenever you want this
formatting.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
.. .
That makes thing MUCH easier! But, you should also know that the
Positioning button is not enabled until you have dragged a table. Before
dragging a table the Positioning button is disabled - which doesn't make
a
whole lot of sense to me.

Thanks Stefan!

BTW, is there a way to make this the default setting for Word?

jim

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
For each table, try this: Right-click the table, and choose Table
Properties
from the context menu. In the Table Properties dialog box, click the
Table
tab. Click Positioning. Clear "Move with text" and "Allow overlap" and
click
OK. Click OK to close the Table Properties dialog.

Now you should be able to drag the tables as you wish.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
.. .
I'm sorry but when I completely recretaed the document I overwrote the
old
name with the new document.

However, I was able to recreate a document with some of the same
strange
behavior and you can download it from
http://www.mediafire.com/?0zmf4jfn9ff .

There are 3 tables on the document. Try moving the bottommost table as
close as possible to the middle table (without touching it) and it
should
jump to the top portion of the page and be a real pain to drag back
below
the other tables.

I can post a video of it if you like.

jim



"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create
to
the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message
neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the
edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot
find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd
get
it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

















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You are welcome.

(For more on wrapped tables, see Beth's reply.)

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Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
...
Great tip! I did just that...now I can simply add the single cell table
and adjust it as needed.

Thanks again!

jim

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Strictly speaking, the Positioning button will be active for tables whose
"Text wrapping" (on the Table tab of the Table Properties dialog box) is
set
to "Around"; this is exactly what is accomplished by dragging the table.

No, unfortunately you cannot change the defaults to include this
formatting. This applies even if you are using a Word version that
supports table styles, since Positioning options cannot be added to a
table style (they are greyed out in Modify Style, Format, Table
Properties).

What you can do is create an "example table" with the desired settings
and then make an AutoText entry which can be inserted whenever you want
this formatting.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
.. .
That makes thing MUCH easier! But, you should also know that the
Positioning button is not enabled until you have dragged a table.
Before
dragging a table the Positioning button is disabled - which doesn't make
a
whole lot of sense to me.

Thanks Stefan!

BTW, is there a way to make this the default setting for Word?

jim

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
For each table, try this: Right-click the table, and choose Table
Properties
from the context menu. In the Table Properties dialog box, click the
Table
tab. Click Positioning. Clear "Move with text" and "Allow overlap" and
click
OK. Click OK to close the Table Properties dialog.

Now you should be able to drag the tables as you wish.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
.. .
I'm sorry but when I completely recretaed the document I overwrote the
old
name with the new document.

However, I was able to recreate a document with some of the same
strange
behavior and you can download it from
http://www.mediafire.com/?0zmf4jfn9ff .

There are 3 tables on the document. Try moving the bottommost table
as
close as possible to the middle table (without touching it) and it
should
jump to the top portion of the page and be a real pain to drag back
below
the other tables.

I can post a video of it if you like.

jim



"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create
to
the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message
neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the
edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot
find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd
get
it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*





















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It would definitely help if you could display the *anchor* of a floating
table (as you can for floating objects).

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Microsoft Word MVP


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
As Stefan noted, the Positioning options are only available for floating
tables. I think you would be much happier if you used inline tables in
which each table is anchored to its own paragraph mark. In your sample
document they are all anchored to the same paragraph mark, which is what I
suspected initially. To view what I'm referring to, on the Home tab, in
the Paragraph group, click the Show/Hide (¶) button and note the single
paragraph mark below the second table and off to the right.

For inline tables, when you insert your tables you need to press Enter
below the table before inserting another one. That way they will each have
their own "anchor point". Right now they are all sharing the same one
which is why they are essentially 'fighting' over their current
positions -- as far as your tables are concerned, there is no clear
indication for which one is belongs at the top.

You'll also need to refrain from dragging the tables which is what
converts them from inline to floating. To move them use cut/paste instead.

Also, for future reference, sample files are better (and faster) for us
than videos. Typically we can "see" what is happening based on your
description but in order to determine why it's happening we need to be
able to view the actual document. :-)

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"jim" wrote in message
.. .
That makes thing MUCH easier! But, you should also know that the
Positioning button is not enabled until you have dragged a table. Before
dragging a table the Positioning button is disabled - which doesn't make
a whole lot of sense to me.

Thanks Stefan!

BTW, is there a way to make this the default setting for Word?

jim

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
For each table, try this: Right-click the table, and choose Table
Properties
from the context menu. In the Table Properties dialog box, click the
Table
tab. Click Positioning. Clear "Move with text" and "Allow overlap" and
click
OK. Click OK to close the Table Properties dialog.

Now you should be able to drag the tables as you wish.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
.. .
I'm sorry but when I completely recretaed the document I overwrote the
old
name with the new document.

However, I was able to recreate a document with some of the same
strange
behavior and you can download it from
http://www.mediafire.com/?0zmf4jfn9ff .

There are 3 tables on the document. Try moving the bottommost table as
close as possible to the middle table (without touching it) and it
should
jump to the top portion of the page and be a real pain to drag back
below
the other tables.

I can post a video of it if you like.

jim



"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create
to
the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message
neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the
edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot
find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd
get
it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

















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Agreed!!

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"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
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It would definitely help if you could display the *anchor* of a floating
table (as you can for floating objects).



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