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In word 2002 how does one view just the breaks, ie. column break, section
break? There are options to view seemingly every other type of hidden character or code. Ideally I would like only column breaks to be visible by default for a template. (For those interested, or with additional suggestions, I'm trying a workaround for parallel columns in word w/o using tables, linked textboxes etc.) -- -Beeler |
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Others may have more options to offer, but the only way I know of is to
remove all the checks in Tools Options View - Formatting Marks, turn off non-printing characters (¶) and switch to Normal View... the down side is that the columns will follow one another, they won't be displayed side-by-side, but page, section & column breaks will be visibly indicated. -- HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "Beeler" wrote in message news In word 2002 how does one view just the breaks, ie. column break, section break? There are options to view seemingly every other type of hidden character or code. Ideally I would like only column breaks to be visible by default for a template. (For those interested, or with additional suggestions, I'm trying a workaround for parallel columns in word w/o using tables, linked textboxes etc.) -- -Beeler |
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Thanks Cyber Taz, I hadn't thought of non-printing characters, unfortunately
I do need the columns to be set up next to each other as they have to be lined up with the text directly to the left. I might try experimenting with non-printing characters and see if I come up with something similar. If I show all, the screen is way too busy to have it edited by others. So we'll see. -- -Beeler "CyberTaz" wrote: Others may have more options to offer, but the only way I know of is to remove all the checks in Tools Options View - Formatting Marks, turn off non-printing characters (¶) and switch to Normal View... the down side is that the columns will follow one another, they won't be displayed side-by-side, but page, section & column breaks will be visibly indicated. -- HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "Beeler" wrote in message news In word 2002 how does one view just the breaks, ie. column break, section break? There are options to view seemingly every other type of hidden character or code. Ideally I would like only column breaks to be visible by default for a template. (For those interested, or with additional suggestions, I'm trying a workaround for parallel columns in word w/o using tables, linked textboxes etc.) -- -Beeler |
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Is there a reason you can't use a borderless Word table? Attempting to use
the Columns feature, created for snaking newspaper style columns, as blocked/parallel columns is a nightmare! I think if we knew more about why you're unable to use a table we might have other suggestions. :-) Also, if you are setting up a template for others then the nonprinting characters won't help since this is a user preference and isn't stored in the document. Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email cannot be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Beeler" wrote in message news In word 2002 how does one view just the breaks, ie. column break, section break? There are options to view seemingly every other type of hidden character or code. Ideally I would like only column breaks to be visible by default for a template. (For those interested, or with additional suggestions, I'm trying a workaround for parallel columns in word w/o using tables, linked textboxes etc.) -- -Beeler |
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Thanks for your response Beth. I had thought about tables, but I am
reluctant for a few reasons. The first is that everywhere I've read states that a large one row column makes the document unstable. I'd like to make the document as consistent as possible and trying to determine when to add a new row would be near impossible. I've thought about making it every heading change, or every 5 paragraphs or something, but the complexity of the manual creates too many inconsitencies. To give some more information. I am very limited by the IT department in the interoperability of the network. As far as I can tell they have no file update function which makes for creating a global template pretty near impossible. The document template that I am designing is for creating a 1000+page manual (about 200 pages are complete, but are roughly formatted and I have to follow something close to the way it looks). Various sections will be edited by different departments, thankfully most of the departments are in the same building. The document needs to require as minimal training as possible since the average user has nary even an introductory knowledge of Word functions. To make matters even more complicated, some departments have a high turn over rate so whoever's editing the document now may not be in 5 months, so whoever I train has to train them. To be frank, the word template puts half the people on the committee uneasy. The reason for the two columns is to put references to some procedures, the references will be somewhat short, but need to be visibly accessible as they reference Governing documents. (Things were going smoothly until the supervisor said, "Find a way to include those references") -- -Beeler "Beth Melton" wrote: Is there a reason you can't use a borderless Word table? Attempting to use the Columns feature, created for snaking newspaper style columns, as blocked/parallel columns is a nightmare! I think if we knew more about why you're unable to use a table we might have other suggestions. :-) Also, if you are setting up a template for others then the nonprinting characters won't help since this is a user preference and isn't stored in the document. Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email cannot be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Beeler" wrote in message news In word 2002 how does one view just the breaks, ie. column break, section break? There are options to view seemingly every other type of hidden character or code. Ideally I would like only column breaks to be visible by default for a template. (For those interested, or with additional suggestions, I'm trying a workaround for parallel columns in word w/o using tables, linked textboxes etc.) -- -Beeler |
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Thanks for the explanation, that helps me understand it better. I don't
think you need to put it all in a table, just the portion you are using the columns for. If I were setting this up for others I'd create an AutoText entry for the References using a borderless one row, two column table. Then I'd add the AutoText entry to a custom toolbar so when the user needs to add a reference, they click the button and the borderless one row, two column table is added for them at their insertion point. Then all they need to do is type the content. If they need more rows then pressing Tab in the last cell will add additional rows if necessary. The custom toolbar could even include other common tasks or frequently used content. If you think this method might work and need additional instructions just let us know. :-) Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email cannot be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Beeler" wrote in message ... Thanks for your response Beth. I had thought about tables, but I am reluctant for a few reasons. The first is that everywhere I've read states that a large one row column makes the document unstable. I'd like to make the document as consistent as possible and trying to determine when to add a new row would be near impossible. I've thought about making it every heading change, or every 5 paragraphs or something, but the complexity of the manual creates too many inconsitencies. To give some more information. I am very limited by the IT department in the interoperability of the network. As far as I can tell they have no file update function which makes for creating a global template pretty near impossible. The document template that I am designing is for creating a 1000+page manual (about 200 pages are complete, but are roughly formatted and I have to follow something close to the way it looks). Various sections will be edited by different departments, thankfully most of the departments are in the same building. The document needs to require as minimal training as possible since the average user has nary even an introductory knowledge of Word functions. To make matters even more complicated, some departments have a high turn over rate so whoever's editing the document now may not be in 5 months, so whoever I train has to train them. To be frank, the word template puts half the people on the committee uneasy. The reason for the two columns is to put references to some procedures, the references will be somewhat short, but need to be visibly accessible as they reference Governing documents. (Things were going smoothly until the supervisor said, "Find a way to include those references") -- -Beeler "Beth Melton" wrote: Is there a reason you can't use a borderless Word table? Attempting to use the Columns feature, created for snaking newspaper style columns, as blocked/parallel columns is a nightmare! I think if we knew more about why you're unable to use a table we might have other suggestions. :-) Also, if you are setting up a template for others then the nonprinting characters won't help since this is a user preference and isn't stored in the document. Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email cannot be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Beeler" wrote in message news In word 2002 how does one view just the breaks, ie. column break, section break? There are options to view seemingly every other type of hidden character or code. Ideally I would like only column breaks to be visible by default for a template. (For those interested, or with additional suggestions, I'm trying a workaround for parallel columns in word w/o using tables, linked textboxes etc.) -- -Beeler |
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Thanks Beth, that seems like a possible solution. I'm about to leave for the
day but I'll give it some thought tonight. I am wondering though how this will affect my headings/numbered lists/and styles. I've used autotext pretty sparingly, so I wasn't sure how that was bound to all of the other Word functions. Does it need to be set or included in any styles in any way or would it just assume whatever style the text is currently operating under? The other question is if the toolbar would be set as default in the document template? I thought toolbars were user settings. Thanks for the insight, I hadn't even thought of this route. Ps. I currently have about 8 solutions written up that I have to take to the committee for final approval, but if I can figure out those questions above, it will likely be in my top recommendations. -- -Beeler "Beth Melton" wrote: Thanks for the explanation, that helps me understand it better. I don't think you need to put it all in a table, just the portion you are using the columns for. If I were setting this up for others I'd create an AutoText entry for the References using a borderless one row, two column table. Then I'd add the AutoText entry to a custom toolbar so when the user needs to add a reference, they click the button and the borderless one row, two column table is added for them at their insertion point. Then all they need to do is type the content. If they need more rows then pressing Tab in the last cell will add additional rows if necessary. The custom toolbar could even include other common tasks or frequently used content. If you think this method might work and need additional instructions just let us know. :-) Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email cannot be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Beeler" wrote in message ... Thanks for your response Beth. I had thought about tables, but I am reluctant for a few reasons. The first is that everywhere I've read states that a large one row column makes the document unstable. I'd like to make the document as consistent as possible and trying to determine when to add a new row would be near impossible. I've thought about making it every heading change, or every 5 paragraphs or something, but the complexity of the manual creates too many inconsitencies. To give some more information. I am very limited by the IT department in the interoperability of the network. As far as I can tell they have no file update function which makes for creating a global template pretty near impossible. The document template that I am designing is for creating a 1000+page manual (about 200 pages are complete, but are roughly formatted and I have to follow something close to the way it looks). Various sections will be edited by different departments, thankfully most of the departments are in the same building. The document needs to require as minimal training as possible since the average user has nary even an introductory knowledge of Word functions. To make matters even more complicated, some departments have a high turn over rate so whoever's editing the document now may not be in 5 months, so whoever I train has to train them. To be frank, the word template puts half the people on the committee uneasy. The reason for the two columns is to put references to some procedures, the references will be somewhat short, but need to be visibly accessible as they reference Governing documents. (Things were going smoothly until the supervisor said, "Find a way to include those references") -- -Beeler "Beth Melton" wrote: Is there a reason you can't use a borderless Word table? Attempting to use the Columns feature, created for snaking newspaper style columns, as blocked/parallel columns is a nightmare! I think if we knew more about why you're unable to use a table we might have other suggestions. :-) Also, if you are setting up a template for others then the nonprinting characters won't help since this is a user preference and isn't stored in the document. Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email cannot be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Beeler" wrote in message news In word 2002 how does one view just the breaks, ie. column break, section break? There are options to view seemingly every other type of hidden character or code. Ideally I would like only column breaks to be visible by default for a template. (For those interested, or with additional suggestions, I'm trying a workaround for parallel columns in word w/o using tables, linked textboxes etc.) -- -Beeler |
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You can define a style for table before the AutoText entry is created and it
will be used when it's inserted. Note that the AutoText entry needs to be saved in the template you are creating instead of your Normal template. Regarding custom toolbars, customization can be personal to the user or template specific. If you customize the built-in toolbars and set the customization context to your template then when a document based on the template is created or opened the customizations will be available to them. I usually create a custom toolbar for the template and add buttons for AutoText or styles that are specific to the template for quicker access. Another example is if you do have a set of styles you want users to utilize then create buttons, or a menu of styles, on a toolbar for them. I usually use text only instead of images for these types of situations so their functionality is clear. For example Heading 1 might use "New Section" for the caption and Heading 2 might be "Subsection" for the caption. I word them according to what the user will understand. Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email cannot be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Beeler" wrote in message ... Thanks Beth, that seems like a possible solution. I'm about to leave for the day but I'll give it some thought tonight. I am wondering though how this will affect my headings/numbered lists/and styles. I've used autotext pretty sparingly, so I wasn't sure how that was bound to all of the other Word functions. Does it need to be set or included in any styles in any way or would it just assume whatever style the text is currently operating under? The other question is if the toolbar would be set as default in the document template? I thought toolbars were user settings. Thanks for the insight, I hadn't even thought of this route. Ps. I currently have about 8 solutions written up that I have to take to the committee for final approval, but if I can figure out those questions above, it will likely be in my top recommendations. -- -Beeler "Beth Melton" wrote: Thanks for the explanation, that helps me understand it better. I don't think you need to put it all in a table, just the portion you are using the columns for. If I were setting this up for others I'd create an AutoText entry for the References using a borderless one row, two column table. Then I'd add the AutoText entry to a custom toolbar so when the user needs to add a reference, they click the button and the borderless one row, two column table is added for them at their insertion point. Then all they need to do is type the content. If they need more rows then pressing Tab in the last cell will add additional rows if necessary. The custom toolbar could even include other common tasks or frequently used content. If you think this method might work and need additional instructions just let us know. :-) Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email cannot be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Beeler" wrote in message ... Thanks for your response Beth. I had thought about tables, but I am reluctant for a few reasons. The first is that everywhere I've read states that a large one row column makes the document unstable. I'd like to make the document as consistent as possible and trying to determine when to add a new row would be near impossible. I've thought about making it every heading change, or every 5 paragraphs or something, but the complexity of the manual creates too many inconsitencies. To give some more information. I am very limited by the IT department in the interoperability of the network. As far as I can tell they have no file update function which makes for creating a global template pretty near impossible. The document template that I am designing is for creating a 1000+page manual (about 200 pages are complete, but are roughly formatted and I have to follow something close to the way it looks). Various sections will be edited by different departments, thankfully most of the departments are in the same building. The document needs to require as minimal training as possible since the average user has nary even an introductory knowledge of Word functions. To make matters even more complicated, some departments have a high turn over rate so whoever's editing the document now may not be in 5 months, so whoever I train has to train them. To be frank, the word template puts half the people on the committee uneasy. The reason for the two columns is to put references to some procedures, the references will be somewhat short, but need to be visibly accessible as they reference Governing documents. (Things were going smoothly until the supervisor said, "Find a way to include those references") -- -Beeler "Beth Melton" wrote: Is there a reason you can't use a borderless Word table? Attempting to use the Columns feature, created for snaking newspaper style columns, as blocked/parallel columns is a nightmare! I think if we knew more about why you're unable to use a table we might have other suggestions. :-) Also, if you are setting up a template for others then the nonprinting characters won't help since this is a user preference and isn't stored in the document. Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email cannot be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Beeler" wrote in message news In word 2002 how does one view just the breaks, ie. column break, section break? There are options to view seemingly every other type of hidden character or code. Ideally I would like only column breaks to be visible by default for a template. (For those interested, or with additional suggestions, I'm trying a workaround for parallel columns in word w/o using tables, linked textboxes etc.) -- -Beeler |
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