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I have several documents and signs in English that I have created for
customers. The customers are now requesting that I make them documents &
signs in both English & Spanish. Is there a way to select the text that I
have, and translate it to Spanish?
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RobinB wrote:
I have several documents and signs in English that I have created for
customers. The customers are now requesting that I make them
documents & signs in both English & Spanish. Is there a way to select
the text that I have, and translate it to Spanish?


Yes, you can do that...

Select the text, hold the Alt key, and click on the selection. The Research
task pane opens. The first time, you'll have to set the search type to
"Translation" and set the from/to languages. For some reason, the results
are below a very large blank space, so you have to scroll down to see them.

This may work well enough for the short phrases on the average sign. Still,
you'll want to have the results checked by someone who is familiar with the
particular dialect(s) spoken by your customers. Words that are perfectly
ordinary in, say, Castilian Spanish may have unsavory connotations in, say,
Mexican or Cuban Spanish. The machine translation in Word won't tell you any
of that.

But if you have to have a person check the translations, why not just have
that person write the translations in the first place?

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Jay Freedman
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Jay,
Thank you for the info. The only problem I have is that the users that need
to do the translation does not have internet access, therefore, they can not
access the wordlingo site. I need to know if there is something internal in
Office that will allow this to be done.

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

RobinB wrote:
I have several documents and signs in English that I have created for
customers. The customers are now requesting that I make them
documents & signs in both English & Spanish. Is there a way to select
the text that I have, and translate it to Spanish?


Yes, you can do that...

Select the text, hold the Alt key, and click on the selection. The Research
task pane opens. The first time, you'll have to set the search type to
"Translation" and set the from/to languages. For some reason, the results
are below a very large blank space, so you have to scroll down to see them.

This may work well enough for the short phrases on the average sign. Still,
you'll want to have the results checked by someone who is familiar with the
particular dialect(s) spoken by your customers. Words that are perfectly
ordinary in, say, Castilian Spanish may have unsavory connotations in, say,
Mexican or Cuban Spanish. The machine translation in Word won't tell you any
of that.

But if you have to have a person check the translations, why not just have
that person write the translations in the first place?

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org



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No, there isn't. The translation feature is provided by a web service only.

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Jay Freedman
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Robinb wrote:
Jay,
Thank you for the info. The only problem I have is that the users
that need to do the translation does not have internet access,
therefore, they can not access the wordlingo site. I need to know if
there is something internal in Office that will allow this to be done.

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

RobinB wrote:
I have several documents and signs in English that I have created
for customers. The customers are now requesting that I make them
documents & signs in both English & Spanish. Is there a way to
select the text that I have, and translate it to Spanish?


Yes, you can do that...

Select the text, hold the Alt key, and click on the selection. The
Research task pane opens. The first time, you'll have to set the
search type to "Translation" and set the from/to languages. For some
reason, the results are below a very large blank space, so you have
to scroll down to see them.

This may work well enough for the short phrases on the average sign.
Still, you'll want to have the results checked by someone who is
familiar with the particular dialect(s) spoken by your customers.
Words that are perfectly ordinary in, say, Castilian Spanish may
have unsavory connotations in, say, Mexican or Cuban Spanish. The
machine translation in Word won't tell you any of that.

But if you have to have a person check the translations, why not
just have that person write the translations in the first place?

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org



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Actually, Jay, I think the French and Spanish translations are available
offline (but only for one word at a time). And note that you can select the
"flavor" of Spanish you want. Not that I wouldn't still caution users about
the use of any kind of machine translation, and especially of word-for-word
translation, which would probably be worse than useless for most phrases.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
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"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
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No, there isn't. The translation feature is provided by a web service

only.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org

Robinb wrote:
Jay,
Thank you for the info. The only problem I have is that the users
that need to do the translation does not have internet access,
therefore, they can not access the wordlingo site. I need to know if
there is something internal in Office that will allow this to be done.

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

RobinB wrote:
I have several documents and signs in English that I have created
for customers. The customers are now requesting that I make them
documents & signs in both English & Spanish. Is there a way to
select the text that I have, and translate it to Spanish?

Yes, you can do that...

Select the text, hold the Alt key, and click on the selection. The
Research task pane opens. The first time, you'll have to set the
search type to "Translation" and set the from/to languages. For some
reason, the results are below a very large blank space, so you have
to scroll down to see them.

This may work well enough for the short phrases on the average sign.
Still, you'll want to have the results checked by someone who is
familiar with the particular dialect(s) spoken by your customers.
Words that are perfectly ordinary in, say, Castilian Spanish may
have unsavory connotations in, say, Mexican or Cuban Spanish. The
machine translation in Word won't tell you any of that.

But if you have to have a person check the translations, why not
just have that person write the translations in the first place?

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org






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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:58:18 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
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Actually, Jay, I think the French and Spanish translations are available
offline (but only for one word at a time). And note that you can select the
"flavor" of Spanish you want. Not that I wouldn't still caution users about
the use of any kind of machine translation, and especially of word-for-word
translation, which would probably be worse than useless for most phrases.


Yes, I see that now (hadn't played with the off-line version and
remembered what we were shown before Word 2003 shipped). But the
"flavors" I see are Modern Sort vs. Traditional Sort, which IIRC
refers to where letters such as ñ appear in alphabetic ordering.

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Jay Freedman
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Okay, hadn't tried it recently, but you'd think if the proofing tools have
all those flavors they'd offer them in translation as well.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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all may benefit.

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:58:18 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

Actually, Jay, I think the French and Spanish translations are available
offline (but only for one word at a time). And note that you can select

the
"flavor" of Spanish you want. Not that I wouldn't still caution users

about
the use of any kind of machine translation, and especially of

word-for-word
translation, which would probably be worse than useless for most phrases.


Yes, I see that now (hadn't played with the off-line version and
remembered what we were shown before Word 2003 shipped). But the
"flavors" I see are Modern Sort vs. Traditional Sort, which IIRC
refers to where letters such as ñ appear in alphabetic ordering.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org


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