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Customizing Default Document
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you believe it works differently for normal.dot? -- Stefan Blom "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For starters, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Help! I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things. What I can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different") and turn on automatic hyphenation. I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me save the modified version nor delete the unmodified one. How do I do this? Phil |
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I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a Language tab), since there are already settings there that are language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style | Modify, that would be useful, too. Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature, and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you believe it works differently for normal.dot? -- Stefan Blom "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For starters, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Help! I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things. What I can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different") and turn on automatic hyphenation. I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me save the modified version nor delete the unmodified one. How do I do this? Phil |
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Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan. Here's my experience: You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also, you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem is what I'm trying to get around. Any ideas? Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a Language tab), since there are already settings there that are language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style | Modify, that would be useful, too. Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature, and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you believe it works differently for normal.dot? -- Stefan Blom "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For starters, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Help! I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things. What I can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different") and turn on automatic hyphenation. I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me save the modified version nor delete the unmodified one. How do I do this? Phil |
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See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it, then it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't have the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be used; see “You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word” at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan. Here's my experience: You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also, you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem is what I'm trying to get around. Any ideas? Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a Language tab), since there are already settings there that are language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style | Modify, that would be useful, too. Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature, and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you believe it works differently for normal.dot? -- Stefan Blom "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For starters, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Help! I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things. What I can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different") and turn on automatic hyphenation. I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me save the modified version nor delete the unmodified one. How do I do this? Phil |
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Suzanne... I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that first before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same approach doesn't work for hyphenation. I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic hyphenation, but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for myself. If you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which allows you to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't show it like it shows the page layout. Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might? Thanks again... Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. You cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it, then it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't have the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be used; see “You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word” at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan. Here's my experience: You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also, you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem is what I'm trying to get around. Any ideas? Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a Language tab), since there are already settings there that are language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style | Modify, that would be useful, too. Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature, and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you believe it works differently for normal.dot? -- Stefan Blom "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For starters, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Help! I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things. What I can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different") and turn on automatic hyphenation. I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me save the modified version nor delete the unmodified one. How do I do this? Phil |
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I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen, I
can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get hyphenation enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it doesn't work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word, perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed supports this theory. -- Stefan Blom "Phil James" wrote: Suzanne... I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that first before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same approach doesn't work for hyphenation. I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic hyphenation, but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for myself. If you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which allows you to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't show it like it shows the page layout. Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might? Thanks again... Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. You cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it, then it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't have the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be used; see “You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word” at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan. Here's my experience: You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also, you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem is what I'm trying to get around. Any ideas? Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a Language tab), since there are already settings there that are language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style | Modify, that would be useful, too. Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature, and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you believe it works differently for normal.dot? -- Stefan Blom "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For starters, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Help! I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things. What I can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different") and turn on automatic hyphenation. I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me save the modified version nor delete the unmodified one. How do I do this? Phil |
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Stefan... That's encouraging news. I'll try it again. You're right: If all the other stuff works I don't see a reason that that wouldn't. Phil Stefan Blom wrote in message ... I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen, I can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get hyphenation enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it doesn't work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word, perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed supports this theory. -- Stefan Blom "Phil James" wrote: Suzanne... I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that first before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same approach doesn't work for hyphenation. I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic hyphenation, but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for myself. If you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which allows you to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't show it like it shows the page layout. Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might? Thanks again... Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. You cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it, then it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't have the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be used; see "You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan. Here's my experience: You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also, you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem is what I'm trying to get around. Any ideas? Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a Language tab), since there are already settings there that are language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style | Modify, that would be useful, too. Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature, and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you believe it works differently for normal.dot? -- Stefan Blom "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For starters, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Help! I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things. What I can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different") and turn on automatic hyphenation. I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me save the modified version nor delete the unmodified one. How do I do this? Phil |
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Stefan... Just tried it again. I open a new document, change the hyphenation, change the page layout, change style (a font), check "add to template," then get out of the nested instructions, and yes, the hyphenation (and everything else) is present for that document. But if I delete it and get a new one, everything stays except the hyphenation option. Unless somebody comes up with a better idea, I guess I'll just have to change it for each document -- though that seems as if it should be unnecessary. I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and Office 2000 on an IBM ThinkPad A27m. Know of any quirks with any of those items? Thanks for trying! Phil PS: I might just post that particular question and see if anybody else responds. Stefan Blom wrote in message ... I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen, I can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get hyphenation enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it doesn't work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word, perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed supports this theory. -- Stefan Blom "Phil James" wrote: Suzanne... I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that first before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same approach doesn't work for hyphenation. I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic hyphenation, but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for myself. If you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which allows you to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't show it like it shows the page layout. Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might? Thanks again... Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. You cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it, then it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't have the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be used; see "You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan. Here's my experience: You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also, you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem is what I'm trying to get around. Any ideas? Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a Language tab), since there are already settings there that are language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style | Modify, that would be useful, too. Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature, and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you believe it works differently for normal.dot? -- Stefan Blom "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For starters, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Help! I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things. What I can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different") and turn on automatic hyphenation. I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me save the modified version nor delete the unmodified one. How do I do this? Phil |
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You cannot transfer hyphenation settings via "Add to template", since
it's not a style thing, but a global document property. You can change the template if you open it via FileOpen, but for existing documents you need to perform the change manually for each document. -- Stefan Blom "Phil James" wrote: Stefan... Just tried it again. I open a new document, change the hyphenation, change the page layout, change style (a font), check "add to template," then get out of the nested instructions, and yes, the hyphenation (and everything else) is present for that document. But if I delete it and get a new one, everything stays except the hyphenation option. Unless somebody comes up with a better idea, I guess I'll just have to change it for each document -- though that seems as if it should be unnecessary. I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and Office 2000 on an IBM ThinkPad A27m. Know of any quirks with any of those items? Thanks for trying! Phil PS: I might just post that particular question and see if anybody else responds. Stefan Blom wrote in message ... I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen, I can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get hyphenation enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it doesn't work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word, perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed supports this theory. -- Stefan Blom "Phil James" wrote: Suzanne... I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that first before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same approach doesn't work for hyphenation. I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic hyphenation, but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for myself. If you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which allows you to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't show it like it shows the page layout. Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might? Thanks again... Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. You cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it, then it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't have the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be used; see "You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan. Here's my experience: You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also, you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem is what I'm trying to get around. Any ideas? Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a Language tab), since there are already settings there that are language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style | Modify, that would be useful, too. Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature, and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you believe it works differently for normal.dot? -- Stefan Blom "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For starters, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Help! I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things. What I can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different") and turn on automatic hyphenation. I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me save the modified version nor delete the unmodified one. How do I do this? Phil |
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To add to what Stefan has said, if the template in question is Normal.dot,
then you will have to open Normal.dot for editing and make the change there. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... You cannot transfer hyphenation settings via "Add to template", since it's not a style thing, but a global document property. You can change the template if you open it via FileOpen, but for existing documents you need to perform the change manually for each document. -- Stefan Blom "Phil James" wrote: Stefan... Just tried it again. I open a new document, change the hyphenation, change the page layout, change style (a font), check "add to template," then get out of the nested instructions, and yes, the hyphenation (and everything else) is present for that document. But if I delete it and get a new one, everything stays except the hyphenation option. Unless somebody comes up with a better idea, I guess I'll just have to change it for each document -- though that seems as if it should be unnecessary. I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and Office 2000 on an IBM ThinkPad A27m. Know of any quirks with any of those items? Thanks for trying! Phil PS: I might just post that particular question and see if anybody else responds. Stefan Blom wrote in message ... I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen, I can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get hyphenation enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it doesn't work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word, perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed supports this theory. -- Stefan Blom "Phil James" wrote: Suzanne... I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that first before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same approach doesn't work for hyphenation. I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic hyphenation, but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for myself. If you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which allows you to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't show it like it shows the page layout. Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might? Thanks again... Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. You cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it, then it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't have the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be used; see "You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan. Here's my experience: You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also, you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem is what I'm trying to get around. Any ideas? Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a Language tab), since there are already settings there that are language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style | Modify, that would be useful, too. Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature, and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you believe it works differently for normal.dot? -- Stefan Blom "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For starters, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Help! I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things. What I can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different") and turn on automatic hyphenation. I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me save the modified version nor delete the unmodified one. How do I do this? Phil |
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Finally got it to work. I think what I was doing was trying to save Normal.dot in one of the My Documents files. When I called it up from its own location and saved it back there after revision, everything worked fine. Thanks, both of you, for your help! Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... To add to what Stefan has said, if the template in question is Normal.dot, then you will have to open Normal.dot for editing and make the change there. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... You cannot transfer hyphenation settings via "Add to template", since it's not a style thing, but a global document property. You can change the template if you open it via FileOpen, but for existing documents you need to perform the change manually for each document. -- Stefan Blom "Phil James" wrote: Stefan... Just tried it again. I open a new document, change the hyphenation, change the page layout, change style (a font), check "add to template," then get out of the nested instructions, and yes, the hyphenation (and everything else) is present for that document. But if I delete it and get a new one, everything stays except the hyphenation option. Unless somebody comes up with a better idea, I guess I'll just have to change it for each document -- though that seems as if it should be unnecessary. I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and Office 2000 on an IBM ThinkPad A27m. Know of any quirks with any of those items? Thanks for trying! Phil PS: I might just post that particular question and see if anybody else responds. Stefan Blom wrote in message ... I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen, I can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get hyphenation enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it doesn't work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word, perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed supports this theory. -- Stefan Blom "Phil James" wrote: Suzanne... I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that first before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same approach doesn't work for hyphenation. I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic hyphenation, but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for myself. If you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which allows you to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't show it like it shows the page layout. Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might? Thanks again... Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. You cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it, then it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't have the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be used; see "You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan. Here's my experience: You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also, you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem is what I'm trying to get around. Any ideas? Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a Language tab), since there are already settings there that are language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style | Modify, that would be useful, too. Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature, and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you believe it works differently for normal.dot? -- Stefan Blom "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For starters, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Help! I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things. What I can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different") and turn on automatic hyphenation. I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me save the modified version nor delete the unmodified one. How do I do this? Phil |
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-- Stefan Blom "Phil James" wrote in message ... Finally got it to work. I think what I was doing was trying to save Normal.dot in one of the My Documents files. When I called it up from its own location and saved it back there after revision, everything worked fine. Thanks, both of you, for your help! Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... To add to what Stefan has said, if the template in question is Normal.dot, then you will have to open Normal.dot for editing and make the change there. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... You cannot transfer hyphenation settings via "Add to template", since it's not a style thing, but a global document property. You can change the template if you open it via FileOpen, but for existing documents you need to perform the change manually for each document. -- Stefan Blom "Phil James" wrote: Stefan... Just tried it again. I open a new document, change the hyphenation, change the page layout, change style (a font), check "add to template," then get out of the nested instructions, and yes, the hyphenation (and everything else) is present for that document. But if I delete it and get a new one, everything stays except the hyphenation option. Unless somebody comes up with a better idea, I guess I'll just have to change it for each document -- though that seems as if it should be unnecessary. I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and Office 2000 on an IBM ThinkPad A27m. Know of any quirks with any of those items? Thanks for trying! Phil PS: I might just post that particular question and see if anybody else responds. Stefan Blom wrote in message ... I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen, I can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get hyphenation enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it doesn't work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word, perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed supports this theory. -- Stefan Blom "Phil James" wrote: Suzanne... I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that first before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same approach doesn't work for hyphenation. I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic hyphenation, but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for myself. If you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which allows you to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't show it like it shows the page layout. Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might? Thanks again... Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. You cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it, then it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't have the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be used; see "You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan. Here's my experience: You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also, you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem is what I'm trying to get around. Any ideas? Phil Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message ... I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a Language tab), since there are already settings there that are language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style | Modify, that would be useful, too. Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature, and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you believe it works differently for normal.dot? -- Stefan Blom "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... For starters, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. FWIW, I suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry rather than Normal.dot. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Phil James" wrote in message ... Help! I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things. What I can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different") and turn on automatic hyphenation. I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me save the modified version nor delete the unmodified one. How do I do this? Phil |
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