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"Help" is anything but
I switched from Office 2002 to Office 2007. Especially Word. The help
is anything but, I can't find a damn thing. If I want to find out how to do something and I type a keyword inthe help search box, I get a bunch of irrelevant help. Latest case in point. I have a text box that I'm working with. In the Format text box dialog, there is an on the Text Box tab, there is an option to "Convert to Frame..." Can I find out using Help waht a Frame is and why I might be want ing to use it? Hell no. The hits I get a - Select text - decorate pictures or text with borders - Create and print envelopes for mass mailing - add and format images in professional Word 2007 documents - Add a drawing to a document and so forth. And I can't find to highlight the search term, nor is there an Index. How is this supposed to help me? |
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"Help" is anything but
This was just quoted (from Word 2002 Help) in another NG:
The difference between a text box and a frame Text boxes and frames are both containers for text that can be positioned on a page and sized. If you are familiar with earlier versions of Microsoft Word, you used frames when you wanted to wrap text around a graphic. Now, you wrap text around a graphic of any size or shape without first inserting it in a text box or frame. However, you must use a frame instead of a text box when you want to position text or graphics that contain certain items. Use a text box when you want to do any of the following: .. Make text flow from one part of a document to another part by linking the text boxes. .. Format the text container by using the options on the Drawing toolbar. You can apply 3-D effects, shadows, border styles and colors, fills, and backgrounds. .. Rotate and flip text boxes. .. Change the orientation of text in a text box by using the Text Direction command (Format menu). .. Group your text containers and change the alignment or distribution of them as a group. Use frames when your text or graphics contain the following: .. Comments, as indicated by comment marks. .. Footnotes or endnotes, as indicated by note reference marks. .. Certain fields, including AUTONUM, AUTONUMLGL, AUTONUMOUT - used for numbering lists and paragraphs in legal documents and outlines - TC (Table of Contents Entry), TOC (Table of Contents), RD (Referenced Document), XE (Index Entry), TA (Table of Authorities Entry), and TOA (Table of Authority) fields. When you open a document that contains frames from a previous version of Word, Word keeps the frames. When you select a frame, the Frame command appears on the Format menu. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "MikeB" wrote in message ... I switched from Office 2002 to Office 2007. Especially Word. The help is anything but, I can't find a damn thing. If I want to find out how to do something and I type a keyword inthe help search box, I get a bunch of irrelevant help. Latest case in point. I have a text box that I'm working with. In the Format text box dialog, there is an on the Text Box tab, there is an option to "Convert to Frame..." Can I find out using Help waht a Frame is and why I might be want ing to use it? Hell no. The hits I get a - Select text - decorate pictures or text with borders - Create and print envelopes for mass mailing - add and format images in professional Word 2007 documents - Add a drawing to a document and so forth. And I can't find to highlight the search term, nor is there an Index. How is this supposed to help me? |
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"Help" is anything but
That's great, but why the blazes can the Help in Word not tell me
that? On May 1, 2:08*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This was just quoted (from Word 2002 Help) in another NG: The difference between a text box and a frame Text boxes and frames are both containers for text that can be positioned on a page and sized. If you are familiar with earlier versions of Microsoft Word, you used frames when you wanted to wrap text around a graphic. Now, you wrap text around a graphic of any size or shape without first inserting it in a text box or frame. However, you must use a frame instead of a text box when you want to position text or graphics that contain certain items. Use a text box when you want to do any of the following: . Make text flow from one part of a document to another part by linking the text boxes. . Format the text container by using the options on the Drawing toolbar. You can apply 3-D effects, shadows, border styles and colors, fills, and backgrounds. . Rotate and flip text boxes. . Change the orientation of text in a text box by using the Text Direction command (Format menu). . Group your text containers and change the alignment or distribution of them as a group. Use frames when your text or graphics contain the following: . Comments, as indicated by comment marks. . Footnotes or endnotes, as indicated by note reference marks. . Certain fields, including AUTONUM, AUTONUMLGL, AUTONUMOUT - used for numbering lists and paragraphs in legal documents and outlines - TC (Table of Contents Entry), TOC (Table of Contents), RD (Referenced Document), XE (Index Entry), TA (Table of Authorities Entry), and TOA (Table of Authority) fields. When you open a document that contains frames from a previous version of Word, Word keeps the frames. When you select a frame, the Frame command appears on the Format menu. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "MikeB" wrote in message ... I switched from Office 2002 to Office 2007. Especially Word. The help is anything but, I can't find a damn thing. If I want to find out how to do something and I type a keyword inthe help search box, I get a bunch of irrelevant help. Latest case in point. I have a text box that I'm working with. In the Format text box dialog, there is an on the Text Box tab, there is an option to "Convert to Frame..." Can I find out using Help waht a Frame is and why I might be want ing to use it? Hell no. The hits I get a - Select text - decorate pictures or text with borders - Create and print envelopes for mass mailing - add and format images in professional Word 2007 documents - Add a drawing to a document and so forth. And I can't find to highlight the search term, nor is there an Index. How is this supposed to help me? |
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"Help" is anything but
A good and unanswerable question.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "MikeB" wrote in message ... That's great, but why the blazes can the Help in Word not tell me that? On May 1, 2:08 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This was just quoted (from Word 2002 Help) in another NG: The difference between a text box and a frame Text boxes and frames are both containers for text that can be positioned on a page and sized. If you are familiar with earlier versions of Microsoft Word, you used frames when you wanted to wrap text around a graphic. Now, you wrap text around a graphic of any size or shape without first inserting it in a text box or frame. However, you must use a frame instead of a text box when you want to position text or graphics that contain certain items. Use a text box when you want to do any of the following: . Make text flow from one part of a document to another part by linking the text boxes. . Format the text container by using the options on the Drawing toolbar. You can apply 3-D effects, shadows, border styles and colors, fills, and backgrounds. . Rotate and flip text boxes. . Change the orientation of text in a text box by using the Text Direction command (Format menu). . Group your text containers and change the alignment or distribution of them as a group. Use frames when your text or graphics contain the following: . Comments, as indicated by comment marks. . Footnotes or endnotes, as indicated by note reference marks. . Certain fields, including AUTONUM, AUTONUMLGL, AUTONUMOUT - used for numbering lists and paragraphs in legal documents and outlines - TC (Table of Contents Entry), TOC (Table of Contents), RD (Referenced Document), XE (Index Entry), TA (Table of Authorities Entry), and TOA (Table of Authority) fields. When you open a document that contains frames from a previous version of Word, Word keeps the frames. When you select a frame, the Frame command appears on the Format menu. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "MikeB" wrote in message ... I switched from Office 2002 to Office 2007. Especially Word. The help is anything but, I can't find a damn thing. If I want to find out how to do something and I type a keyword inthe help search box, I get a bunch of irrelevant help. Latest case in point. I have a text box that I'm working with. In the Format text box dialog, there is an on the Text Box tab, there is an option to "Convert to Frame..." Can I find out using Help waht a Frame is and why I might be want ing to use it? Hell no. The hits I get a - Select text - decorate pictures or text with borders - Create and print envelopes for mass mailing - add and format images in professional Word 2007 documents - Add a drawing to a document and so forth. And I can't find to highlight the search term, nor is there an Index. How is this supposed to help me? |
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"Help" is anything but
In any event, thank you for providing that information. May I ask what
newsgroup carried th ereferred article? Perhaps I should subscribe to that as well. Also, if you ever have the opportunity to provide some form of feedback, may I ask that you indicate to them that the Help in Office 2007 is woefully inadequate? I also this weekend spent a long time trying to figure out something in Excel 2007 and I noticed that in the articles I referred to the "How-to" sections have been removed, epecially where it concerns the older functions where, presumably, they didn't feel the need to write new help since the features weren't new in this release. I noticed that the Office 2007 Help feedback features have been disabled. On May 4, 8:16*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A good and unanswerable question. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "MikeB" wrote in message ... That's great, but why the blazes can the Help in Word not tell me that? On May 1, 2:08 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This was just quoted (from Word 2002 Help) in another NG: The difference between a text box and a frame Text boxes and frames are both containers for text that can be positioned on a page and sized. If you are familiar with earlier versions of Microsoft Word, you used frames when you wanted to wrap text around a graphic. Now, you wrap text around a graphic of any size or shape without first inserting it in a text box or frame. However, you must use a frame instead of a text box when you want to position text or graphics that contain certain items. Use a text box when you want to do any of the following: . Make text flow from one part of a document to another part by linking the text boxes. . Format the text container by using the options on the Drawing toolbar. You can apply 3-D effects, shadows, border styles and colors, fills, and backgrounds. . Rotate and flip text boxes. . Change the orientation of text in a text box by using the Text Direction command (Format menu). . Group your text containers and change the alignment or distribution of them as a group. Use frames when your text or graphics contain the following: . Comments, as indicated by comment marks. . Footnotes or endnotes, as indicated by note reference marks. . Certain fields, including AUTONUM, AUTONUMLGL, AUTONUMOUT - used for numbering lists and paragraphs in legal documents and outlines - TC (Table of Contents Entry), TOC (Table of Contents), RD (Referenced Document), XE (Index Entry), TA (Table of Authorities Entry), and TOA (Table of Authority) fields. When you open a document that contains frames from a previous version of Word, Word keeps the frames. When you select a frame, the Frame command appears on the Format menu. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "MikeB" wrote in message ... I switched from Office 2002 to Office 2007. Especially Word. The help is anything but, I can't find a damn thing. If I want to find out how to do something and I type a keyword inthe help search box, I get a bunch of irrelevant help. Latest case in point. I have a text box that I'm working with. In the Format text box dialog, there is an on the Text Box tab, there is an option to "Convert to Frame..." Can I find out using Help waht a Frame is and why I might be want ing to use it? Hell no. The hits I get a - Select text - decorate pictures or text with borders - Create and print envelopes for mass mailing - add and format images in professional Word 2007 documents - Add a drawing to a document and so forth. And I can't find to highlight the search term, nor is there an Index. How is this supposed to help me? |
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"Help" is anything but
Believe me, they know. Writing Help for Word 2007 was especially challenging
because there was so much that was new with the Ribbon UI. An effort is now being made to leverage Help from older versions wherever applicable, usually by making it available online, so you won't see those topics unless you're allowing Help to search online. It may be that SP 2 will have pushed some of that back to the installed version (it was a goal for this version to be able to update the actual compiled offline Help file). I don't recall what the other NG was, but most likely microsoft.public.word.docmanagement, which is represented by "General Questions" in the Web interface. As for frames, MS has been trying to kill them for years, without success; the KB article ""WD2000: General Information About Floating Objects" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=268713 is an example of the type of "Help" that had to be made available when it became evident that frames were still necessary for some purposes. Word 97 was the most critical case, though: Frame was removed from the Insert menu, and anyone who wanted to restore it had trouble finding it in Customize because it was listed as "Horizontal." -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "MikeB" wrote in message ... In any event, thank you for providing that information. May I ask what newsgroup carried th ereferred article? Perhaps I should subscribe to that as well. Also, if you ever have the opportunity to provide some form of feedback, may I ask that you indicate to them that the Help in Office 2007 is woefully inadequate? I also this weekend spent a long time trying to figure out something in Excel 2007 and I noticed that in the articles I referred to the "How-to" sections have been removed, epecially where it concerns the older functions where, presumably, they didn't feel the need to write new help since the features weren't new in this release. I noticed that the Office 2007 Help feedback features have been disabled. On May 4, 8:16 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A good and unanswerable question. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "MikeB" wrote in message ... That's great, but why the blazes can the Help in Word not tell me that? On May 1, 2:08 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This was just quoted (from Word 2002 Help) in another NG: The difference between a text box and a frame Text boxes and frames are both containers for text that can be positioned on a page and sized. If you are familiar with earlier versions of Microsoft Word, you used frames when you wanted to wrap text around a graphic. Now, you wrap text around a graphic of any size or shape without first inserting it in a text box or frame. However, you must use a frame instead of a text box when you want to position text or graphics that contain certain items. Use a text box when you want to do any of the following: . Make text flow from one part of a document to another part by linking the text boxes. . Format the text container by using the options on the Drawing toolbar. You can apply 3-D effects, shadows, border styles and colors, fills, and backgrounds. . Rotate and flip text boxes. . Change the orientation of text in a text box by using the Text Direction command (Format menu). . Group your text containers and change the alignment or distribution of them as a group. Use frames when your text or graphics contain the following: . Comments, as indicated by comment marks. . Footnotes or endnotes, as indicated by note reference marks. . Certain fields, including AUTONUM, AUTONUMLGL, AUTONUMOUT - used for numbering lists and paragraphs in legal documents and outlines - TC (Table of Contents Entry), TOC (Table of Contents), RD (Referenced Document), XE (Index Entry), TA (Table of Authorities Entry), and TOA (Table of Authority) fields. When you open a document that contains frames from a previous version of Word, Word keeps the frames. When you select a frame, the Frame command appears on the Format menu. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "MikeB" wrote in message ... I switched from Office 2002 to Office 2007. Especially Word. The help is anything but, I can't find a damn thing. If I want to find out how to do something and I type a keyword inthe help search box, I get a bunch of irrelevant help. Latest case in point. I have a text box that I'm working with. In the Format text box dialog, there is an on the Text Box tab, there is an option to "Convert to Frame..." Can I find out using Help waht a Frame is and why I might be want ing to use it? Hell no. The hits I get a - Select text - decorate pictures or text with borders - Create and print envelopes for mass mailing - add and format images in professional Word 2007 documents - Add a drawing to a document and so forth. And I can't find to highlight the search term, nor is there an Index. How is this supposed to help me? |
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The quoted information was purloined from
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...44b04c1d680407 .. MikeB wrote: In any event, thank you for providing that information. May I ask what newsgroup carried th ereferred article? Perhaps I should subscribe to that as well. Also, if you ever have the opportunity to provide some form of feedback, may I ask that you indicate to them that the Help in Office 2007 is woefully inadequate? I also this weekend spent a long time trying to figure out something in Excel 2007 and I noticed that in the articles I referred to the "How-to" sections have been removed, epecially where it concerns the older functions where, presumably, they didn't feel the need to write new help since the features weren't new in this release. I noticed that the Office 2007 Help feedback features have been disabled. On May 4, 8:16 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A good and unanswerable question. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "MikeB" wrote in message ... That's great, but why the blazes can the Help in Word not tell me that? On May 1, 2:08 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This was just quoted (from Word 2002 Help) in another NG: The difference between a text box and a frame Text boxes and frames are both containers for text that can be positioned on a page and sized. If you are familiar with earlier versions of Microsoft Word, you used frames when you wanted to wrap text around a graphic. Now, you wrap text around a graphic of any size or shape without first inserting it in a text box or frame. However, you must use a frame instead of a text box when you want to position text or graphics that contain certain items. Use a text box when you want to do any of the following: . Make text flow from one part of a document to another part by linking the text boxes. . Format the text container by using the options on the Drawing toolbar. You can apply 3-D effects, shadows, border styles and colors, fills, and backgrounds. . Rotate and flip text boxes. . Change the orientation of text in a text box by using the Text Direction command (Format menu). . Group your text containers and change the alignment or distribution of them as a group. Use frames when your text or graphics contain the following: . Comments, as indicated by comment marks. . Footnotes or endnotes, as indicated by note reference marks. . Certain fields, including AUTONUM, AUTONUMLGL, AUTONUMOUT - used for numbering lists and paragraphs in legal documents and outlines - TC (Table of Contents Entry), TOC (Table of Contents), RD (Referenced Document), XE (Index Entry), TA (Table of Authorities Entry), and TOA (Table of Authority) fields. When you open a document that contains frames from a previous version of Word, Word keeps the frames. When you select a frame, the Frame command appears on the Format menu. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "MikeB" wrote in message ... I switched from Office 2002 to Office 2007. Especially Word. The help is anything but, I can't find a damn thing. If I want to find out how to do something and I type a keyword inthe help search box, I get a bunch of irrelevant help. Latest case in point. I have a text box that I'm working with. In the Format text box dialog, there is an on the Text Box tab, there is an option to "Convert to Frame..." Can I find out using Help waht a Frame is and why I might be want ing to use it? Hell no. The hits I get a - Select text - decorate pictures or text with borders - Create and print envelopes for mass mailing - add and format images in professional Word 2007 documents - Add a drawing to a document and so forth. And I can't find to highlight the search term, nor is there an Index. How is this supposed to help me? |
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