[Xylophone]

I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc, I get
'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can get rid of them
by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and Type. But they come
back when I open the next new doc, when Click and Type is ticked again. How
can I get unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this problem is solved
permanently? I imagine a registry adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Stefan Blom]

You could try deleting the Data key in the registry. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/missingmenusetc.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Xylophone" wrote:

I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc, I get
'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can get rid of them
by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and Type. But they come
back when I open the next new doc, when Click and Type is ticked again. How
can I get unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this problem is solved
permanently? I imagine a registry adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Graham Mayor]

Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly losing some
settings from Tools Options. The easiest workaround is to force the
settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc, I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can get
rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and Type.
But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click and Type
is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type to stick,
so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a registry
adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Xylophone]

Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and Graham,
macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly losing some
settings from Tools Options. The easiest workaround is to force the
settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc, I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can get
rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and Type.
But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click and Type
is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type to stick,
so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a registry
adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with appropriate
modification of the version number in the Registry key name), and Graham
provides complete instructions on how to use his macro in the article he
referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and Graham,
macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly losing some
settings from Tools Options. The easiest workaround is to force the
settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc, I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can get
rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and Type.
But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click and Type
is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type to stick,
so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a registry
adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Xylophone]

Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and admire
what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the corner. I would
have not have known from reading it that the registry article applies to
Word 2003. I shall now follow it to the letter. As for the idiot's guide
to macros, this tells you how to create a macro. Great. What it doesn't
tell you is what to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case).
Hence my aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me. The same
applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried for not understanding
DOS, yet I have never ever found any document that explains it in ordinary
language, so how am I expected to understand it? There was a little bit
about it in a Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is
that you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and am a
successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that things of a
technical nature usually have to spelled out to me. There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with appropriate
modification of the version number in the Registry key name), and Graham
provides complete instructions on how to use his macro in the article he
referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and Graham,
macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly losing some
settings from Tools Options. The easiest workaround is to force the
settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc,
I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can get
rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and
Type.
But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click and Type
is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type to stick,
so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a registry
adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[CyberTaz]

You're in good hands with the group you've been dealing with, but I just
wanted to let you know you aren't alone:0) I believe the "missing link" in
your thoughts is that macros (VBA), DOS, etc. are *programming languages*
that need to be learned just like any spoken language. Perhaps an idiot
savant could just sit down & compose working code without having studied it,
but I would imagine most of us aren't in that category

Further, like most any other body of knowledge, you have to routinely
practice the craft. If you don't have the time, need, or interest to write
code regularly you can't be expected to know "what to put in" at the drop of
a hat. That's why we have to rely on the kind-hearted souls - Like Stefan,
Graham, Suzanne, et al. - who *do* have those skills to help us out:-)

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 7/11/07 3:57 AM, in article ,
"Xylophone" wrote:

Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and admire
what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the corner. I would
have not have known from reading it that the registry article applies to
Word 2003. I shall now follow it to the letter. As for the idiot's guide
to macros, this tells you how to create a macro. Great. What it doesn't
tell you is what to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case).
Hence my aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me. The same
applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried for not understanding
DOS, yet I have never ever found any document that explains it in ordinary
language, so how am I expected to understand it? There was a little bit
about it in a Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is
that you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and am a
successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that things of a
technical nature usually have to spelled out to me. There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with appropriate
modification of the version number in the Registry key name), and Graham
provides complete instructions on how to use his macro in the article he
referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and Graham,
macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly losing some
settings from Tools Options. The easiest workaround is to force the
settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc,
I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can get
rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and
Type.
But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click and Type
is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type to stick,
so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a registry
adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Xylophone]

Bob

Delightfully and most sensitively put!

"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
You're in good hands with the group you've been dealing with, but I just
wanted to let you know you aren't alone:0) I believe the "missing link" in
your thoughts is that macros (VBA), DOS, etc. are *programming languages*
that need to be learned just like any spoken language. Perhaps an idiot
savant could just sit down & compose working code without having studied
it,
but I would imagine most of us aren't in that category

Further, like most any other body of knowledge, you have to routinely
practice the craft. If you don't have the time, need, or interest to write
code regularly you can't be expected to know "what to put in" at the drop
of
a hat. That's why we have to rely on the kind-hearted souls - Like Stefan,
Graham, Suzanne, et al. - who *do* have those skills to help us out:-)

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 7/11/07 3:57 AM, in article ,
"Xylophone" wrote:

Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and admire
what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the corner. I
would
have not have known from reading it that the registry article applies to
Word 2003. I shall now follow it to the letter. As for the idiot's
guide
to macros, this tells you how to create a macro. Great. What it
doesn't
tell you is what to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case).
Hence my aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and
where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me. The
same
applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried for not
understanding
DOS, yet I have never ever found any document that explains it in
ordinary
language, so how am I expected to understand it? There was a little bit
about it in a Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is
that you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and
am a
successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that things of a
technical nature usually have to spelled out to me. There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with appropriate
modification of the version number in the Registry key name), and
Graham
provides complete instructions on how to use his macro in the article
he
referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham,
macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly losing
some
settings from Tools Options. The easiest workaround is to force the
settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc,
I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can get
rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and
Type.
But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click and Type
is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type to stick,
so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a registry
adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Xylophone]

Re Stefan's registry adjustment, I find in Regedit (I run Word 2003 as part
of Office 2003), I have variously Word 8, 10, 11 and 12. All except 12 have
'Word/Data' as an entry, as described in Stefan's article. So which one or
ones do I delete?

Why should this resolve my 'wings' problem - because this is a problem in my
'Word/Data/Settings?

If I delete that entry, I assume I will have to reset Word from afresh to my
preferred settings. Is that correct?

Are there any dangers in deleting the registry entry?

Thanks


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You could try deleting the Data key in the registry. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/missingmenusetc.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Xylophone" wrote:

I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc, I
get
'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can get rid of
them
by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and Type. But they come
back when I open the next new doc, when Click and Type is ticked again.
How
can I get unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this problem is
solved
permanently? I imagine a registry adjustment would do the trick.
Thanks.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible to know
that the http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has not been
updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all versions of Word
(even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it doesn't have "menus" per se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but about how
to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your situation. Read it
carefully; it's just telling you where to paste the VBA you've been handed.
There is another article on the same subject at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm, but I think Graham's
article is clearer (though certainly not as concise). If you gave up too
early on Graham's article, you may not have reached the "Auto... macros"
section toward the end, which explains how to create the AutoNew and
AutoOpen macros he suggests creating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and admire
what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the corner. I would
have not have known from reading it that the registry article applies to
Word 2003. I shall now follow it to the letter. As for the idiot's
guide
to macros, this tells you how to create a macro. Great. What it doesn't
tell you is what to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case).
Hence my aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me. The same
applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried for not
understanding
DOS, yet I have never ever found any document that explains it in ordinary
language, so how am I expected to understand it? There was a little bit
about it in a Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is
that you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and am
a
successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that things of a
technical nature usually have to spelled out to me. There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with appropriate
modification of the version number in the Registry key name), and Graham
provides complete instructions on how to use his macro in the article he
referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham,
macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly losing
some
settings from Tools Options. The easiest workaround is to force
the
settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word
doc,
I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can get
rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and
Type.
But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click and
Type
is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type to
stick,
so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a registry
adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Graham Mayor]

Word 2003 is Word 11. Word 12 is presumably the trial version of Office 2007
that you have installed and removed at some time.
Word 8 is Word 97, Word 10 is Word XP/2002. I am surprised that these keys
still have content.
When you delete the settings Subkey Word will rebuild a new default one. If
unsure, rename it to Oldsettings with Word closed.
The macro approach is simpler and more reliable.
Surprising the things that irritate users. I had never even concerned myself
about the 'wings' until you mentioned it - and you appear to know what they
indicate.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
Re Stefan's registry adjustment, I find in Regedit (I run Word 2003
as part of Office 2003), I have variously Word 8, 10, 11 and 12. All
except 12 have 'Word/Data' as an entry, as described in Stefan's
article. So which one or ones do I delete?

Why should this resolve my 'wings' problem - because this is a
problem in my 'Word/Data/Settings?

If I delete that entry, I assume I will have to reset Word from
afresh to my preferred settings. Is that correct?

Are there any dangers in deleting the registry entry?

Thanks


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You could try deleting the Data key in the registry. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/missingmenusetc.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Xylophone" wrote:

I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc,
I get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can
get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and
Type. But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click
and Type is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type
to stick, so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a
registry adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Xylophone]

Thanks, Graham

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 is Word 11. Word 12 is presumably the trial version of Office
2007
that you have installed and removed at some time.
Word 8 is Word 97, Word 10 is Word XP/2002. I am surprised that these keys
still have content.
When you delete the settings Subkey Word will rebuild a new default one.
If
unsure, rename it to Oldsettings with Word closed.
The macro approach is simpler and more reliable.
Surprising the things that irritate users. I had never even concerned
myself
about the 'wings' until you mentioned it - and you appear to know what
they
indicate.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
Re Stefan's registry adjustment, I find in Regedit (I run Word 2003
as part of Office 2003), I have variously Word 8, 10, 11 and 12. All
except 12 have 'Word/Data' as an entry, as described in Stefan's
article. So which one or ones do I delete?

Why should this resolve my 'wings' problem - because this is a
problem in my 'Word/Data/Settings?

If I delete that entry, I assume I will have to reset Word from
afresh to my preferred settings. Is that correct?

Are there any dangers in deleting the registry entry?

Thanks


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You could try deleting the Data key in the registry. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/missingmenusetc.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Xylophone" wrote:

I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc,
I get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can
get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and
Type. But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click
and Type is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type
to stick, so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a
registry adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Xylophone]

Thanks, Suzanne

I am grateful for everyone's valuable time here.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible to know
that the http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has not been
updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all versions of Word
(even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it doesn't have "menus" per se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but about
how
to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your situation. Read it
carefully; it's just telling you where to paste the VBA you've been
handed.
There is another article on the same subject at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm, but I think Graham's
article is clearer (though certainly not as concise). If you gave up too
early on Graham's article, you may not have reached the "Auto... macros"
section toward the end, which explains how to create the AutoNew and
AutoOpen macros he suggests creating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and admire
what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the corner. I
would
have not have known from reading it that the registry article applies to
Word 2003. I shall now follow it to the letter. As for the idiot's
guide
to macros, this tells you how to create a macro. Great. What it
doesn't
tell you is what to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case).

Hence my aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and
where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me. The
same
applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried for not
understanding
DOS, yet I have never ever found any document that explains it in
ordinary
language, so how am I expected to understand it? There was a little bit
about it in a Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is
that you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and
am
a
successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that things of a
technical nature usually have to spelled out to me. There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with appropriate
modification of the version number in the Registry key name), and
Graham
provides complete instructions on how to use his macro in the article
he
referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham,
macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly losing
some
settings from Tools Options. The easiest workaround is to force
the
settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word
doc,
I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can
get
rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and
Type.
But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click and
Type
is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type to
stick,
so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a
registry
adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Stefan Blom]

First, I want to make it perfectly clear that I'm not taking credit for the
article I referred you to... :-) The authors were Dave Rado and J.E.
McGimpsey (they are credited in the article, below the title).

Second, the (possible) problem with the Data key is that it doesn't seem to
retain the settings correctly, which is what should be corrected after you
delete (or rename) it and have Word create a new one. The actual deletion of
the key restores the default settings of Word, and you should then
(hopefully) be able to make the changes that you want via the user
interface. As Graham wrote, if this doesn't work, use a macro instead.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Re Stefan's registry adjustment, I find in Regedit (I run Word 2003 as
part
of Office 2003), I have variously Word 8, 10, 11 and 12. All except 12
have
'Word/Data' as an entry, as described in Stefan's article. So which one
or
ones do I delete?

Why should this resolve my 'wings' problem - because this is a problem in
my
'Word/Data/Settings?

If I delete that entry, I assume I will have to reset Word from afresh to
my
preferred settings. Is that correct?

Are there any dangers in deleting the registry entry?

Thanks


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You could try deleting the Data key in the registry. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/missingmenusetc.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Xylophone" wrote:

I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc, I
get
'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can get rid of
them
by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and Type. But they
come
back when I open the next new doc, when Click and Type is ticked again.
How
can I get unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this problem is
solved
permanently? I imagine a registry adjustment would do the trick.
Thanks.

[Stefan Blom]

Surprising the things that irritate users. I had never even concerned
myself about the 'wings' [...]

FWIW, the "wings" annoy me too. :-) Actually, what annoys me is what they
represent: inserting blank paragraphs and tab characters to position text,
which is completely inappropriate in a word processing program. :-(

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 is Word 11. Word 12 is presumably the trial version of Office
2007 that you have installed and removed at some time.
Word 8 is Word 97, Word 10 is Word XP/2002. I am surprised that these keys
still have content.
When you delete the settings Subkey Word will rebuild a new default one.
If unsure, rename it to Oldsettings with Word closed.
The macro approach is simpler and more reliable.
Surprising the things that irritate users. I had never even concerned
myself about the 'wings' until you mentioned it - and you appear to know
what they indicate.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
Re Stefan's registry adjustment, I find in Regedit (I run Word 2003
as part of Office 2003), I have variously Word 8, 10, 11 and 12. All
except 12 have 'Word/Data' as an entry, as described in Stefan's
article. So which one or ones do I delete?

Why should this resolve my 'wings' problem - because this is a
problem in my 'Word/Data/Settings?

If I delete that entry, I assume I will have to reset Word from
afresh to my preferred settings. Is that correct?

Are there any dangers in deleting the registry entry?

Thanks


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You could try deleting the Data key in the registry. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/missingmenusetc.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Xylophone" wrote:

I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc,
I get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can
get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and
Type. But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click
and Type is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type
to stick, so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a
registry adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I agree with Stefan on both points. "Click and type" is one of the first
options I disable, and I would be visually annoyed by the "fussiness" of the
pointer in any case.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Surprising the things that irritate users. I had never even concerned
myself about the 'wings' [...]

FWIW, the "wings" annoy me too. :-) Actually, what annoys me is what they
represent: inserting blank paragraphs and tab characters to position text,
which is completely inappropriate in a word processing program. :-(

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 is Word 11. Word 12 is presumably the trial version of Office
2007 that you have installed and removed at some time.
Word 8 is Word 97, Word 10 is Word XP/2002. I am surprised that these
keys
still have content.
When you delete the settings Subkey Word will rebuild a new default one.
If unsure, rename it to Oldsettings with Word closed.
The macro approach is simpler and more reliable.
Surprising the things that irritate users. I had never even concerned
myself about the 'wings' until you mentioned it - and you appear to know
what they indicate.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
Re Stefan's registry adjustment, I find in Regedit (I run Word 2003
as part of Office 2003), I have variously Word 8, 10, 11 and 12. All
except 12 have 'Word/Data' as an entry, as described in Stefan's
article. So which one or ones do I delete?

Why should this resolve my 'wings' problem - because this is a
problem in my 'Word/Data/Settings?

If I delete that entry, I assume I will have to reset Word from
afresh to my preferred settings. Is that correct?

Are there any dangers in deleting the registry entry?

Thanks


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You could try deleting the Data key in the registry. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/missingmenusetc.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Xylophone" wrote:

I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word doc,
I get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can
get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and
Type. But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click
and Type is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type
to stick, so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a
registry adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Xylophone]

I can't make head nor tail of the alleged 'idiot's guide. Much of it does
not appear in my use of Word, so I have to guess. That takes me so far. I
create a 'Wings' macro. This takes me into MS Virtual Basic with some lines
already there. Then I paste the line supplied in the email over those
lines. This leaves me with the the line, and only that. Then what? I
can't save the line, as I don't know where it would be saved to, if
anywhere. As for auto entries, I can't see any or any links to or anything
to do with auto entries. So how do I get the line into an auto entry, etc.
as advised.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible to know
that the http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has not been
updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all versions of Word
(even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it doesn't have "menus" per se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but about
how
to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your situation. Read it
carefully; it's just telling you where to paste the VBA you've been
handed.
There is another article on the same subject at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm, but I think Graham's
article is clearer (though certainly not as concise). If you gave up too
early on Graham's article, you may not have reached the "Auto... macros"
section toward the end, which explains how to create the AutoNew and
AutoOpen macros he suggests creating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and admire
what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the corner. I
would
have not have known from reading it that the registry article applies to
Word 2003. I shall now follow it to the letter. As for the idiot's
guide
to macros, this tells you how to create a macro. Great. What it
doesn't
tell you is what to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case).
Hence my aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and
where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me. The
same
applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried for not
understanding
DOS, yet I have never ever found any document that explains it in
ordinary
language, so how am I expected to understand it? There was a little bit
about it in a Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is
that you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and
am
a
successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that things of a
technical nature usually have to spelled out to me. There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with appropriate
modification of the version number in the Registry key name), and
Graham
provides complete instructions on how to use his macro in the article
he
referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham,
macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly losing
some
settings from Tools Options. The easiest workaround is to force
the
settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word
doc,
I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can
get
rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click and
Type.
But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click and
Type
is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type to
stick,
so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a
registry
adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

AFAIK, the Visual Basic Editor has not changed for Word 2007. It seems to me
that Graham's instructions are very clear. You have already managed to
create your macro and get to the VBE, where I'm assuming you're seeing this:

Sub Wings()
'
' Wings Macro
' Macro created date by user
'

End Sub

You paste the VBA code you were given above End Sub, then click the Save
button on the VBE toolbar. You don't have to choose where to save it, as
Word already knows this (the module already exists, is already saved).

But this really won't help you much because Wings is not the correct name of
the macro; you need to create (or edit) a macro named AutoNew and one called
AutoRun. If you didn't find this information in Graham's article, then you
did not read all of it because there is a section toward the end titled
"Auto... macros" that gives illustrations of several macros similar to the
one you're trying to create.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
I can't make head nor tail of the alleged 'idiot's guide. Much of it does
not appear in my use of Word, so I have to guess. That takes me so far.
I
create a 'Wings' macro. This takes me into MS Virtual Basic with some
lines
already there. Then I paste the line supplied in the email over those
lines. This leaves me with the the line, and only that. Then what? I
can't save the line, as I don't know where it would be saved to, if
anywhere. As for auto entries, I can't see any or any links to or
anything
to do with auto entries. So how do I get the line into an auto entry,
etc.
as advised.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible to
know
that the http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has not
been
updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all versions of Word
(even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it doesn't have "menus" per
se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but about
how
to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your situation. Read
it
carefully; it's just telling you where to paste the VBA you've been
handed.
There is another article on the same subject at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm, but I think
Graham's
article is clearer (though certainly not as concise). If you gave up too
early on Graham's article, you may not have reached the "Auto... macros"
section toward the end, which explains how to create the AutoNew and
AutoOpen macros he suggests creating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and
admire
what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the corner. I
would
have not have known from reading it that the registry article applies
to
Word 2003. I shall now follow it to the letter. As for the idiot's
guide
to macros, this tells you how to create a macro. Great. What it
doesn't
tell you is what to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my
case).
Hence my aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and
where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me. The
same
applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried for not
understanding
DOS, yet I have never ever found any document that explains it in
ordinary
language, so how am I expected to understand it? There was a little
bit
about it in a Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth
is
that you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and
am
a
successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that things of
a
technical nature usually have to spelled out to me. There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with appropriate
modification of the version number in the Registry key name), and
Graham
provides complete instructions on how to use his macro in the
article
he
referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham,
macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly
losing
some
settings from Tools Options. The easiest workaround is to
force
the
settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word
doc,
I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I can
get
rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click
and
Type.
But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click
and
Type
is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type to
stick,
so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a
registry
adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Xylophone]

Thanks, Suzanne. The article mentioned autoopen and autonew but did not say
these are the names you give to the macros you create in the editor. I have
now done so thanks to you.

I have just come away from a research committee where we were much exercised
by the lack of use of plain English in documentation. A moment's thought
would tell the author of the article to which Graham refers that it does not
explain what it sets out to explain to an idiot. What didn't the author
simply run his draft past an idiot, or a few idiots. I recall the
instructions I struggled with in the case of Norton Ghost, where to me they
were literally incomprehensible. The guy who wrote them would no doubt be
offended by that, and express surprise that anyone should think that. He
understands and he has expressed his understanding. What he did not do is
express it in the language of the ordinary person who does not understand.
That after all is the purpose of instructions.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
AFAIK, the Visual Basic Editor has not changed for Word 2007. It seems to
me
that Graham's instructions are very clear. You have already managed to
create your macro and get to the VBE, where I'm assuming you're seeing
this:

Sub Wings()
'
' Wings Macro
' Macro created date by user
'

End Sub

You paste the VBA code you were given above End Sub, then click the Save
button on the VBE toolbar. You don't have to choose where to save it, as
Word already knows this (the module already exists, is already saved).

But this really won't help you much because Wings is not the correct name
of
the macro; you need to create (or edit) a macro named AutoNew and one
called
AutoRun. If you didn't find this information in Graham's article, then you
did not read all of it because there is a section toward the end titled
"Auto... macros" that gives illustrations of several macros similar to the
one you're trying to create.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
I can't make head nor tail of the alleged 'idiot's guide. Much of it
does
not appear in my use of Word, so I have to guess. That takes me so far.
I
create a 'Wings' macro. This takes me into MS Virtual Basic with some
lines
already there. Then I paste the line supplied in the email over those
lines. This leaves me with the the line, and only that. Then what? I
can't save the line, as I don't know where it would be saved to, if
anywhere. As for auto entries, I can't see any or any links to or
anything
to do with auto entries. So how do I get the line into an auto entry,
etc.
as advised.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible to
know
that the http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm
article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has not
been
updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all versions of
Word
(even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it doesn't have "menus" per
se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but
about
how
to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your situation.
Read
it
carefully; it's just telling you where to paste the VBA you've been
handed.
There is another article on the same subject at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm, but I think
Graham's
article is clearer (though certainly not as concise). If you gave up
too
early on Graham's article, you may not have reached the "Auto...
macros"
section toward the end, which explains how to create the AutoNew and
AutoOpen macros he suggests creating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and
admire
what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the corner. I
would
have not have known from reading it that the registry article
applies
to
Word 2003. I shall now follow it to the letter. As for the
idiot's
guide
to macros, this tells you how to create a macro. Great. What it
doesn't
tell you is what to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my
case).
Hence my aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and
where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me. The
same
applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried for not
understanding
DOS, yet I have never ever found any document that explains it in
ordinary
language, so how am I expected to understand it? There was a little
bit
about it in a Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the
truth
is
that you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees
and
am
a
successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that things
of
a
technical nature usually have to spelled out to me. There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with
appropriate
modification of the version number in the Registry key name), and
Graham
provides complete instructions on how to use his macro in the
article
he
referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham,
macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly
losing
some
settings from Tools Options. The easiest workaround is to
force
the
settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal
template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new
Word
doc,
I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I
can
get
rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking Click
and
Type.
But they come back when I open the next new doc, when Click
and
Type
is ticked again. How can I get unclicking Click and Type to
stick,
so that this problem is solved permanently? I imagine a
registry
adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.

[Graham Mayor]

You are not creating a 'Wings' macro, you are creating an autonew macro and
an autoopen macro. Assuming that you have not previously created any macros
with these names, copy the following into your vba editor (the illustrations
on the web site should match your version of Word)

Sub AutoNew()
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
End Sub

Sub AutoOpen
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
End Sub

Click the save button on the vba editor toolbar and close the vba editor.
You will find on the web site an expanded use of these auto macros to take
care of those issues where Word will not retain the settings. if you use any
of those then you add in the line

Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

to those macros rather than create new macros with the same names. Macros
are fairly straightforward. They are simply instructions to operate Word
functions. I don't see how I could have made their implementation any
simpler than on the web site http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm but
if you can think of anything that would make it easier for beginners, then
by all means let me know and I will see what can be done.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
I can't make head nor tail of the alleged 'idiot's guide. Much of it
does not appear in my use of Word, so I have to guess. That takes me
so far. I create a 'Wings' macro. This takes me into MS Virtual
Basic with some lines already there. Then I paste the line supplied
in the email over those lines. This leaves me with the line, and
only that. Then what? I can't save the line, as I don't know where
it would be saved to, if anywhere. As for auto entries, I can't see
any or any links to or anything to do with auto entries. So how do I
get the line into an auto entry, etc. as advised.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible to
know that the
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has
not been updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all
versions of Word (even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it doesn't
have "menus" per se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but
about how to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your
situation. Read it carefully; it's just telling you where to paste
the VBA you've been handed. There is another article on the same
subject at http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm, but
I think Graham's article is clearer (though certainly not as
concise). If you gave up too early on Graham's article, you may not
have reached the "Auto... macros" section toward the end, which
explains how to create the AutoNew and AutoOpen macros he suggests
creating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and
admire what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the
corner. I would have not have known from reading it that the
registry article applies to Word 2003. I shall now follow it to
the letter. As for the idiot's guide to macros, this tells you
how to create a macro. Great. What it doesn't tell you is what to
put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case). Hence my
aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me.
The same applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried for
not understanding DOS, yet I have never ever found any document
that explains it in ordinary language, so how am I expected to
understand it? There was a little bit about it in a Windows Manual
I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is that you either 'get'
these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and am a successful
person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that things of a
technical nature usually have to spelled out to me. There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with appropriate
modification of the version number in the Registry key name), and
Graham provides complete instructions on how to use his macro in
the article he referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham, macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm
afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly
losing some settings from Tools Options. The easiest
workaround is to force the settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word
doc, I get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad.
I can get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking
Click and Type. But they come back when I open the next new
doc, when Click and Type is ticked again. How can I get
unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this problem is
solved permanently? I imagine a registry adjustment would do
the trick. Thanks.

[Graham Mayor]

The article I referred to is one I wrote myself. Approximately 1300 people a
month view that page - and only rarely has anyone provided any feedback to
the effect that it is difficult to understand. Where the criticism has been
valid, I have made changes to cover those criticisms. I have also recently
added alternative illustration to show where Word 2007 differs from the
earlier versions.

I said in my original reply

"add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template."

I then pointed you to my web page where autonew and autoopen macros are
explained as well as how to implement the use of vba code posted in
newsgroup forums.

I also have a page on my web site explaining how to use Norton Ghost in
pictures that a child should be able to understand. Hopefully mine was not
the page you were referring to

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
Thanks, Suzanne. The article mentioned autoopen and autonew but did
not say these are the names you give to the macros you create in the
editor. I have now done so thanks to you.

I have just come away from a research committee where we were much
exercised by the lack of use of plain English in documentation. A
moment's thought would tell the author of the article to which Graham
refers that it does not explain what it sets out to explain to an
idiot. What didn't the author simply run his draft past an idiot, or
a few idiots. I recall the instructions I struggled with in the
case of Norton Ghost, where to me they were literally
incomprehensible. The guy who wrote them would no doubt be offended
by that, and express surprise that anyone should think that. He
understands and he has expressed his understanding. What he did not
do is express it in the language of the ordinary person who does not
understand. That after all is the purpose of instructions.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
AFAIK, the Visual Basic Editor has not changed for Word 2007. It
seems to me that Graham's instructions are very clear. You have
already managed to create your macro and get to the VBE, where I'm
assuming you're seeing this:

Sub Wings()
'
' Wings Macro
' Macro created date by user
'

End Sub

You paste the VBA code you were given above End Sub, then click the
Save button on the VBE toolbar. You don't have to choose where to
save it, as Word already knows this (the module already exists, is
already saved).

But this really won't help you much because Wings is not the correct
name of the macro; you need to create (or edit) a macro named
AutoNew and one called AutoRun. If you didn't find this information
in Graham's article, then you did not read all of it because there
is a section toward the end titled "Auto... macros" that gives
illustrations of several macros similar to the one you're trying to
create.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
I can't make head nor tail of the alleged 'idiot's guide. Much of
it does not appear in my use of Word, so I have to guess. That
takes me so far. I create a 'Wings' macro. This takes me into MS
Virtual Basic with some lines already there. Then I paste the line
supplied in the email over those lines. This leaves me with the
the line, and only that. Then what? I can't save the line, as I
don't know where it would be saved to, if anywhere. As for auto
entries, I can't see any or any links to or anything to do with
auto entries. So how do I get the line into an auto entry, etc. as
advised.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible
to know that the
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has
not been updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all
versions of Word (even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it
doesn't have "menus" per se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but
about how to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your
situation. Read it carefully; it's just telling you where to paste
the VBA you've been handed. There is another article on the same
subject at http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm,
but I think Graham's article is clearer (though certainly not as
concise). If you gave up too early on Graham's article, you may
not have reached the "Auto... macros" section toward the end,
which explains how to create the AutoNew and AutoOpen macros he
suggests creating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and
admire what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the
corner. I would have not have known from reading it that the
registry article applies to Word 2003. I shall now follow it to
the letter. As for the idiot's guide to macros, this tells you
how to create a macro. Great. What it doesn't tell you is what
to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case). Hence my
aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me.
The same applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried
for not understanding DOS, yet I have never ever found any
document that explains it in ordinary language, so how am I
expected to understand it? There was a little bit about it in a
Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is that
you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees
and
am
a
successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that
things of a technical nature usually have to spelled out to me.
There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with
appropriate modification of the version number in the Registry
key name), and Graham provides complete instructions on how to
use his macro in the article he referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham, macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm
afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly
losing some settings from Tools Options. The easiest
workaround is to force the settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal
template. See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new
Word
doc,
I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I
can get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking
Click and Type. But they come back when I open the next new
doc, when Click and Type is ticked again. How can I get
unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this problem is
solved permanently? I imagine a registry adjustment would do
the trick. Thanks.

[Xylophone]

Graham,

See my effort below, which constitutes a description of the process I have
gone through on my PC, which I would find pretty fail-safe. Images of the
program I find double-edged: they can be helpful, but if they don't match
exactly what I see on the screen as I go through, I get anxious that maybe
you are talking about a different version of the program or I am not using
mine correctly. So I tend to mistrust images. A talk-through I find
better. A talk-through and images might be better. Your call

Open Word

Click on Tools/Macro - then on Macros

This brings up a box headed 'Macros''

In that box, at the top, where it says 'Macro' name, a name will already be
there. You have to delete that in readiness to put in the new name, (as to
which, see below). To do this, select the name and click the 'delete'
button on your keyboard.

In the name space that is now empty type the word 'autoopen' (no hyphen)
(nothing you are asked in this guide to type in is typed in including the
quotation marks: they are there to tell you these are the words to be typed
in)

Towards the bottom of the Macros box, right click on 'Macros in.' This
brings up a drop-down menu. In that menu, click on 'Normal.dot (global
template)'.

To the right of the box, click on 'Create'

The box then disappears and the macro editor appears, which is headed
'Microsoft Visual Basic - Normal'. This is in two sections, the one on the
right being the editing box. This will have lines of text already in it

Within this editing box, above the line that says 'End sub', type in the
line

'Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False'

In the toolbar at top of the editor, click on the 'Save' symbol

In the same toolbar, click on 'File' and then 'Close and return to Microsoft
Word'

You are now finished

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
You are not creating a 'Wings' macro, you are creating an autonew macro
and
an autoopen macro. Assuming that you have not previously created any
macros
with these names, copy the following into your vba editor (the
illustrations
on the web site should match your version of Word)

Sub AutoNew()
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
End Sub

Sub AutoOpen
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
End Sub

Click the save button on the vba editor toolbar and close the vba editor.
You will find on the web site an expanded use of these auto macros to take
care of those issues where Word will not retain the settings. if you use
any
of those then you add in the line

Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

to those macros rather than create new macros with the same names. Macros
are fairly straightforward. They are simply instructions to operate Word
functions. I don't see how I could have made their implementation any
simpler than on the web site http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm
but
if you can think of anything that would make it easier for beginners, then
by all means let me know and I will see what can be done.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
I can't make head nor tail of the alleged 'idiot's guide. Much of it
does not appear in my use of Word, so I have to guess. That takes me
so far. I create a 'Wings' macro. This takes me into MS Virtual
Basic with some lines already there. Then I paste the line supplied
in the email over those lines. This leaves me with the line, and
only that. Then what? I can't save the line, as I don't know where
it would be saved to, if anywhere. As for auto entries, I can't see
any or any links to or anything to do with auto entries. So how do I
get the line into an auto entry, etc. as advised.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible to
know that the
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has
not been updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all
versions of Word (even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it doesn't
have "menus" per se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but
about how to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your
situation. Read it carefully; it's just telling you where to paste
the VBA you've been handed. There is another article on the same
subject at http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm, but
I think Graham's article is clearer (though certainly not as
concise). If you gave up too early on Graham's article, you may not
have reached the "Auto... macros" section toward the end, which
explains how to create the AutoNew and AutoOpen macros he suggests
creating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and
admire what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the
corner. I would have not have known from reading it that the
registry article applies to Word 2003. I shall now follow it to
the letter. As for the idiot's guide to macros, this tells you
how to create a macro. Great. What it doesn't tell you is what to
put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case). Hence my
aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me.
The same applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried for
not understanding DOS, yet I have never ever found any document
that explains it in ordinary language, so how am I expected to
understand it? There was a little bit about it in a Windows Manual
I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is that you either 'get'
these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and am a successful
person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that things of a
technical nature usually have to spelled out to me. There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with appropriate
modification of the version number in the Registry key name), and
Graham provides complete instructions on how to use his macro in
the article he referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham, macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm
afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly
losing some settings from Tools Options. The easiest
workaround is to force the settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template.
See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word
doc, I get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad.
I can get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking
Click and Type. But they come back when I open the next new
doc, when Click and Type is ticked again. How can I get
unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this problem is
solved permanently? I imagine a registry adjustment would do
the trick. Thanks.

[Graham Mayor]

OK, I will take another look at it

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
Graham,

See my effort below, which constitutes a description of the process I
have gone through on my PC, which I would find pretty fail-safe.
Images of the program I find double-edged: they can be helpful, but
if they don't match exactly what I see on the screen as I go through,
I get anxious that maybe you are talking about a different version of
the program or I am not using mine correctly. So I tend to mistrust
images. A talk-through I find better. A talk-through and images
might be better. Your call

Open Word

Click on Tools/Macro - then on Macros

This brings up a box headed 'Macros''

In that box, at the top, where it says 'Macro' name, a name will
already be there. You have to delete that in readiness to put in the
new name, (as to which, see below). To do this, select the name and
click the 'delete' button on your keyboard.

In the name space that is now empty type the word 'autoopen' (no
hyphen) (nothing you are asked in this guide to type in is typed in
including the quotation marks: they are there to tell you these are
the words to be typed in)

Towards the bottom of the Macros box, right click on 'Macros in.'
This brings up a drop-down menu. In that menu, click on 'Normal.dot
(global template)'.

To the right of the box, click on 'Create'

The box then disappears and the macro editor appears, which is headed
'Microsoft Visual Basic - Normal'. This is in two sections, the one
on the right being the editing box. This will have lines of text
already in it

Within this editing box, above the line that says 'End sub', type in
the line

'Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False'

In the toolbar at top of the editor, click on the 'Save' symbol

In the same toolbar, click on 'File' and then 'Close and return to
Microsoft Word'

You are now finished

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
You are not creating a 'Wings' macro, you are creating an autonew
macro and an autoopen macro. Assuming that you have not previously
created any macros with these names, copy the following into your
vba editor (the illustrations on the web site should match your
version of Word)

Sub AutoNew()
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
End Sub

Sub AutoOpen
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
End Sub

Click the save button on the vba editor toolbar and close the vba
editor. You will find on the web site an expanded use of these auto
macros to take care of those issues where Word will not retain the
settings. if you use any of those then you add in the line

Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

to those macros rather than create new macros with the same names.
Macros are fairly straightforward. They are simply instructions to
operate Word functions. I don't see how I could have made their
implementation any simpler than on the web site
http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm but if you can think of
anything that would make it easier for beginners, then by all means
let me know and I will see what can be done. --

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
I can't make head nor tail of the alleged 'idiot's guide. Much of
it does not appear in my use of Word, so I have to guess. That
takes me so far. I create a 'Wings' macro. This takes me into MS
Virtual Basic with some lines already there. Then I paste the line
supplied in the email over those lines. This leaves me with the
line, and only that. Then what? I can't save the line, as I don't
know where it would be saved to, if anywhere. As for auto entries,
I can't see any or any links to or anything to do with auto
entries. So how do I get the line into an auto entry, etc. as
advised.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible
to know that the
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has
not been updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all
versions of Word (even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it
doesn't have "menus" per se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but
about how to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your
situation. Read it carefully; it's just telling you where to paste
the VBA you've been handed. There is another article on the same
subject at http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm,
but I think Graham's article is clearer (though certainly not as
concise). If you gave up too early on Graham's article, you may not
have reached the "Auto... macros" section toward the end, which
explains how to create the AutoNew and AutoOpen macros he suggests
creating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and
admire what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the
corner. I would have not have known from reading it that the
registry article applies to Word 2003. I shall now follow it to
the letter. As for the idiot's guide to macros, this tells you
how to create a macro. Great. What it doesn't tell you is what
to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case). Hence my
aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me.
The same applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried
for not understanding DOS, yet I have never ever found any
document that explains it in ordinary language, so how am I
expected to understand it? There was a little bit about it in a
Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is that
you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and
am a successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that
things of a technical nature usually have to spelled out to me.
There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with
appropriate modification of the version number in the Registry
key name), and Graham provides complete instructions on how to
use his macro in the article he referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham, macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm
afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly
losing some settings from Tools Options. The easiest
workaround is to force the settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal
template. See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word
doc, I get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad.
I can get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and
unclicking Click and Type. But they come back when I open the
next new doc, when Click and Type is ticked again. How can I
get unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this problem
is solved permanently? I imagine a registry adjustment would
do the trick. Thanks.

[Xylophone]

I now find that when I open a Word doc (but not Word), the first thing I get
is the macro editor, with the error message:

"compile error

invalid outside procedure"

on top of the lines in the editor:

"Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

Sub AddTBMenuItem()
'
' AddTBMenuItem Macro
' Macro created 13/07/2007 by malcolm harrison
'

End Sub
Sub Autoopen()
'
' Autoopen Macro
' Macro created 14/07/2007 by malcolm harrison
'
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

End Sub
Sub Autonew()
'
' Autonew Macro
' Macro created 14/07/2007 by malcolm harrison
'
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

End Sub
Sub AddTBToolbarItem()
'
' AddTBToolbarItem Macro
' Macro created 14/07/2007 by malcolm harrison
'

End Sub"

Please advise further. Thanks

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
OK, I will take another look at it

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
Graham,

See my effort below, which constitutes a description of the process I
have gone through on my PC, which I would find pretty fail-safe.
Images of the program I find double-edged: they can be helpful, but
if they don't match exactly what I see on the screen as I go through,
I get anxious that maybe you are talking about a different version of
the program or I am not using mine correctly. So I tend to mistrust
images. A talk-through I find better. A talk-through and images
might be better. Your call

Open Word

Click on Tools/Macro - then on Macros

This brings up a box headed 'Macros''

In that box, at the top, where it says 'Macro' name, a name will
already be there. You have to delete that in readiness to put in the
new name, (as to which, see below). To do this, select the name and
click the 'delete' button on your keyboard.

In the name space that is now empty type the word 'autoopen' (no
hyphen) (nothing you are asked in this guide to type in is typed in
including the quotation marks: they are there to tell you these are
the words to be typed in)

Towards the bottom of the Macros box, right click on 'Macros in.'
This brings up a drop-down menu. In that menu, click on 'Normal.dot
(global template)'.

To the right of the box, click on 'Create'

The box then disappears and the macro editor appears, which is headed
'Microsoft Visual Basic - Normal'. This is in two sections, the one
on the right being the editing box. This will have lines of text
already in it

Within this editing box, above the line that says 'End sub', type in
the line

'Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False'

In the toolbar at top of the editor, click on the 'Save' symbol

In the same toolbar, click on 'File' and then 'Close and return to
Microsoft Word'

You are now finished

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
You are not creating a 'Wings' macro, you are creating an autonew
macro and an autoopen macro. Assuming that you have not previously
created any macros with these names, copy the following into your
vba editor (the illustrations on the web site should match your
version of Word)

Sub AutoNew()
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
End Sub

Sub AutoOpen
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
End Sub

Click the save button on the vba editor toolbar and close the vba
editor. You will find on the web site an expanded use of these auto
macros to take care of those issues where Word will not retain the
settings. if you use any of those then you add in the line

Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

to those macros rather than create new macros with the same names.
Macros are fairly straightforward. They are simply instructions to
operate Word functions. I don't see how I could have made their
implementation any simpler than on the web site
http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm but if you can think of
anything that would make it easier for beginners, then by all means
let me know and I will see what can be done. --

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
I can't make head nor tail of the alleged 'idiot's guide. Much of
it does not appear in my use of Word, so I have to guess. That
takes me so far. I create a 'Wings' macro. This takes me into MS
Virtual Basic with some lines already there. Then I paste the line
supplied in the email over those lines. This leaves me with the
line, and only that. Then what? I can't save the line, as I don't
know where it would be saved to, if anywhere. As for auto entries,
I can't see any or any links to or anything to do with auto
entries. So how do I get the line into an auto entry, etc. as
advised.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible
to know that the
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has
not been updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all
versions of Word (even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it
doesn't have "menus" per se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but
about how to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your
situation. Read it carefully; it's just telling you where to paste
the VBA you've been handed. There is another article on the same
subject at http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm,
but I think Graham's article is clearer (though certainly not as
concise). If you gave up too early on Graham's article, you may not
have reached the "Auto... macros" section toward the end, which
explains how to create the AutoNew and AutoOpen macros he suggests
creating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and
admire what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the
corner. I would have not have known from reading it that the
registry article applies to Word 2003. I shall now follow it to
the letter. As for the idiot's guide to macros, this tells you
how to create a macro. Great. What it doesn't tell you is what
to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case). Hence my
aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me.
The same applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried
for not understanding DOS, yet I have never ever found any
document that explains it in ordinary language, so how am I
expected to understand it? There was a little bit about it in a
Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is that
you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and
am a successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that
things of a technical nature usually have to spelled out to me.
There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with
appropriate modification of the version number in the Registry
key name), and Graham provides complete instructions on how to
use his macro in the article he referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham, macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm
afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly
losing some settings from Tools Options. The easiest
workaround is to force the settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal
template. See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word
doc, I get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad.
I can get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and
unclicking Click and Type. But they come back when I open the
next new doc, when Click and Type is ticked again. How can I
get unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this problem
is solved permanently? I imagine a registry adjustment would
do the trick. Thanks.

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

Delete the line

Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

before

Sub AddTBMenuItem()

as it is outside of a procedure (Sub - End Sub)

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
I now find that when I open a Word doc (but not Word), the first thing I
get
is the macro editor, with the error message:

"compile error

invalid outside procedure"

on top of the lines in the editor:

"Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

Sub AddTBMenuItem()
'
' AddTBMenuItem Macro
' Macro created 13/07/2007 by malcolm harrison
'

End Sub
Sub Autoopen()
'
' Autoopen Macro
' Macro created 14/07/2007 by malcolm harrison
'
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

End Sub
Sub Autonew()
'
' Autonew Macro
' Macro created 14/07/2007 by malcolm harrison
'
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

End Sub
Sub AddTBToolbarItem()
'
' AddTBToolbarItem Macro
' Macro created 14/07/2007 by malcolm harrison
'

End Sub"

Please advise further. Thanks

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
OK, I will take another look at it

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
Graham,

See my effort below, which constitutes a description of the process I
have gone through on my PC, which I would find pretty fail-safe.
Images of the program I find double-edged: they can be helpful, but
if they don't match exactly what I see on the screen as I go through,
I get anxious that maybe you are talking about a different version of
the program or I am not using mine correctly. So I tend to mistrust
images. A talk-through I find better. A talk-through and images
might be better. Your call

Open Word

Click on Tools/Macro - then on Macros

This brings up a box headed 'Macros''

In that box, at the top, where it says 'Macro' name, a name will
already be there. You have to delete that in readiness to put in the
new name, (as to which, see below). To do this, select the name and
click the 'delete' button on your keyboard.

In the name space that is now empty type the word 'autoopen' (no
hyphen) (nothing you are asked in this guide to type in is typed in
including the quotation marks: they are there to tell you these are
the words to be typed in)

Towards the bottom of the Macros box, right click on 'Macros in.'
This brings up a drop-down menu. In that menu, click on 'Normal.dot
(global template)'.

To the right of the box, click on 'Create'

The box then disappears and the macro editor appears, which is headed
'Microsoft Visual Basic - Normal'. This is in two sections, the one
on the right being the editing box. This will have lines of text
already in it

Within this editing box, above the line that says 'End sub', type in
the line

'Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False'

In the toolbar at top of the editor, click on the 'Save' symbol

In the same toolbar, click on 'File' and then 'Close and return to
Microsoft Word'

You are now finished

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
You are not creating a 'Wings' macro, you are creating an autonew
macro and an autoopen macro. Assuming that you have not previously
created any macros with these names, copy the following into your
vba editor (the illustrations on the web site should match your
version of Word)

Sub AutoNew()
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
End Sub

Sub AutoOpen
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
End Sub

Click the save button on the vba editor toolbar and close the vba
editor. You will find on the web site an expanded use of these auto
macros to take care of those issues where Word will not retain the
settings. if you use any of those then you add in the line

Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

to those macros rather than create new macros with the same names.
Macros are fairly straightforward. They are simply instructions to
operate Word functions. I don't see how I could have made their
implementation any simpler than on the web site
http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm but if you can think of
anything that would make it easier for beginners, then by all means
let me know and I will see what can be done. --

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
I can't make head nor tail of the alleged 'idiot's guide. Much of
it does not appear in my use of Word, so I have to guess. That
takes me so far. I create a 'Wings' macro. This takes me into MS
Virtual Basic with some lines already there. Then I paste the line
supplied in the email over those lines. This leaves me with the
line, and only that. Then what? I can't save the line, as I don't
know where it would be saved to, if anywhere. As for auto entries,
I can't see any or any links to or anything to do with auto
entries. So how do I get the line into an auto entry, etc. as
advised.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible
to know that the
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has
not been updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all
versions of Word (even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it
doesn't have "menus" per se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but
about how to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your
situation. Read it carefully; it's just telling you where to paste
the VBA you've been handed. There is another article on the same
subject at http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm,
but I think Graham's article is clearer (though certainly not as
concise). If you gave up too early on Graham's article, you may not
have reached the "Auto... macros" section toward the end, which
explains how to create the AutoNew and AutoOpen macros he suggests
creating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and
admire what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the
corner. I would have not have known from reading it that the
registry article applies to Word 2003. I shall now follow it to
the letter. As for the idiot's guide to macros, this tells you
how to create a macro. Great. What it doesn't tell you is what
to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case). Hence my
aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me.
The same applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried
for not understanding DOS, yet I have never ever found any
document that explains it in ordinary language, so how am I
expected to understand it? There was a little bit about it in a
Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is that
you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and
am a successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that
things of a technical nature usually have to spelled out to me.
There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with
appropriate modification of the version number in the Registry
key name), and Graham provides complete instructions on how to
use his macro in the article he referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham, macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm
afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly
losing some settings from Tools Options. The easiest
workaround is to force the settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal
template. See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new Word
doc, I get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad.
I can get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and
unclicking Click and Type. But they come back when I open the
next new doc, when Click and Type is ticked again. How can I
get unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this problem
is solved permanently? I imagine a registry adjustment would
do the trick. Thanks.

[Xylophone]

Thanks, Doug. This appears to have done the trick.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message
...
Delete the line

Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

before

Sub AddTBMenuItem()

as it is outside of a procedure (Sub - End Sub)

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
I now find that when I open a Word doc (but not Word), the first thing I
get
is the macro editor, with the error message:

"compile error

invalid outside procedure"

on top of the lines in the editor:

"Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

Sub AddTBMenuItem()
'
' AddTBMenuItem Macro
' Macro created 13/07/2007 by malcolm harrison
'

End Sub
Sub Autoopen()
'
' Autoopen Macro
' Macro created 14/07/2007 by malcolm harrison
'
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

End Sub
Sub Autonew()
'
' Autonew Macro
' Macro created 14/07/2007 by malcolm harrison
'
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

End Sub
Sub AddTBToolbarItem()
'
' AddTBToolbarItem Macro
' Macro created 14/07/2007 by malcolm harrison
'

End Sub"

Please advise further. Thanks

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
OK, I will take another look at it

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
Graham,

See my effort below, which constitutes a description of the process I
have gone through on my PC, which I would find pretty fail-safe.
Images of the program I find double-edged: they can be helpful, but
if they don't match exactly what I see on the screen as I go through,
I get anxious that maybe you are talking about a different version of
the program or I am not using mine correctly. So I tend to mistrust
images. A talk-through I find better. A talk-through and images
might be better. Your call

Open Word

Click on Tools/Macro - then on Macros

This brings up a box headed 'Macros''

In that box, at the top, where it says 'Macro' name, a name will
already be there. You have to delete that in readiness to put in the
new name, (as to which, see below). To do this, select the name and
click the 'delete' button on your keyboard.

In the name space that is now empty type the word 'autoopen' (no
hyphen) (nothing you are asked in this guide to type in is typed in
including the quotation marks: they are there to tell you these are
the words to be typed in)

Towards the bottom of the Macros box, right click on 'Macros in.'
This brings up a drop-down menu. In that menu, click on 'Normal.dot
(global template)'.

To the right of the box, click on 'Create'

The box then disappears and the macro editor appears, which is headed
'Microsoft Visual Basic - Normal'. This is in two sections, the one
on the right being the editing box. This will have lines of text
already in it

Within this editing box, above the line that says 'End sub', type in
the line

'Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False'

In the toolbar at top of the editor, click on the 'Save' symbol

In the same toolbar, click on 'File' and then 'Close and return to
Microsoft Word'

You are now finished

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
You are not creating a 'Wings' macro, you are creating an autonew
macro and an autoopen macro. Assuming that you have not previously
created any macros with these names, copy the following into your
vba editor (the illustrations on the web site should match your
version of Word)

Sub AutoNew()
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
End Sub

Sub AutoOpen
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
End Sub

Click the save button on the vba editor toolbar and close the vba
editor. You will find on the web site an expanded use of these auto
macros to take care of those issues where Word will not retain the
settings. if you use any of those then you add in the line

Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False

to those macros rather than create new macros with the same names.
Macros are fairly straightforward. They are simply instructions to
operate Word functions. I don't see how I could have made their
implementation any simpler than on the web site
http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm but if you can think of
anything that would make it easier for beginners, then by all means
let me know and I will see what can be done. --

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
I can't make head nor tail of the alleged 'idiot's guide. Much of
it does not appear in my use of Word, so I have to guess. That
takes me so far. I create a 'Wings' macro. This takes me into MS
Virtual Basic with some lines already there. Then I paste the line
supplied in the email over those lines. This leaves me with the
line, and only that. Then what? I can't save the line, as I don't
know where it would be saved to, if anywhere. As for auto entries,
I can't see any or any links to or anything to do with auto
entries. So how do I get the line into an auto entry, etc. as
advised.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible
to know that the
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has
not been updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all
versions of Word (even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it
doesn't have "menus" per se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but
about how to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your
situation. Read it carefully; it's just telling you where to paste
the VBA you've been handed. There is another article on the same
subject at http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm,
but I think Graham's article is clearer (though certainly not as
concise). If you gave up too early on Graham's article, you may
not
have reached the "Auto... macros" section toward the end, which
explains how to create the AutoNew and AutoOpen macros he suggests
creating.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and
admire what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the
corner. I would have not have known from reading it that the
registry article applies to Word 2003. I shall now follow it to
the letter. As for the idiot's guide to macros, this tells you
how to create a macro. Great. What it doesn't tell you is what
to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case). Hence my
aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me.
The same applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried
for not understanding DOS, yet I have never ever found any
document that explains it in ordinary language, so how am I
expected to understand it? There was a little bit about it in a
Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is that
you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees and
am a successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that
things of a technical nature usually have to spelled out to me.
There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with
appropriate modification of the version number in the Registry
key name), and Graham provides complete instructions on how to
use his macro in the article he referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham, macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm
afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly
losing some settings from Tools Options. The easiest
workaround is to force the settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal
template. See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new
Word
doc, I get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me
mad.
I can get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and
unclicking Click and Type. But they come back when I open the
next new doc, when Click and Type is ticked again. How can I
get unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this problem
is solved permanently? I imagine a registry adjustment would
do the trick. Thanks.

[Stefan Blom]

Approximately 1300 people a month view that page [...]

FWIW, I refer people to http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm so often
that I don't even have to look it up; I know it by heart. There is only one
more such link, namely
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
The article I referred to is one I wrote myself. Approximately 1300 people
a month view that page - and only rarely has anyone provided any feedback
to the effect that it is difficult to understand. Where the criticism has
been valid, I have made changes to cover those criticisms. I have also
recently added alternative illustration to show where Word 2007 differs
from the earlier versions.

I said in my original reply

"add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template."

I then pointed you to my web page where autonew and autoopen macros are
explained as well as how to implement the use of vba code posted in
newsgroup forums.

I also have a page on my web site explaining how to use Norton Ghost in
pictures that a child should be able to understand. Hopefully mine was not
the page you were referring to

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
Thanks, Suzanne. The article mentioned autoopen and autonew but did
not say these are the names you give to the macros you create in the
editor. I have now done so thanks to you.

I have just come away from a research committee where we were much
exercised by the lack of use of plain English in documentation. A
moment's thought would tell the author of the article to which Graham
refers that it does not explain what it sets out to explain to an
idiot. What didn't the author simply run his draft past an idiot, or
a few idiots. I recall the instructions I struggled with in the
case of Norton Ghost, where to me they were literally
incomprehensible. The guy who wrote them would no doubt be offended
by that, and express surprise that anyone should think that. He
understands and he has expressed his understanding. What he did not
do is express it in the language of the ordinary person who does not
understand. That after all is the purpose of instructions.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
AFAIK, the Visual Basic Editor has not changed for Word 2007. It
seems to me that Graham's instructions are very clear. You have
already managed to create your macro and get to the VBE, where I'm
assuming you're seeing this:

Sub Wings()
'
' Wings Macro
' Macro created date by user
'

End Sub

You paste the VBA code you were given above End Sub, then click the
Save button on the VBE toolbar. You don't have to choose where to
save it, as Word already knows this (the module already exists, is
already saved).

But this really won't help you much because Wings is not the correct
name of the macro; you need to create (or edit) a macro named
AutoNew and one called AutoRun. If you didn't find this information
in Graham's article, then you did not read all of it because there
is a section toward the end titled "Auto... macros" that gives
illustrations of several macros similar to the one you're trying to
create.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
I can't make head nor tail of the alleged 'idiot's guide. Much of
it does not appear in my use of Word, so I have to guess. That
takes me so far. I create a 'Wings' macro. This takes me into MS
Virtual Basic with some lines already there. Then I paste the line
supplied in the email over those lines. This leaves me with the
the line, and only that. Then what? I can't save the line, as I
don't know where it would be saved to, if anywhere. As for auto
entries, I can't see any or any links to or anything to do with
auto entries. So how do I get the line into an auto entry, etc. as
advised.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible
to know that the
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has
not been updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all
versions of Word (even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it
doesn't have "menus" per se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but
about how to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your
situation. Read it carefully; it's just telling you where to paste
the VBA you've been handed. There is another article on the same
subject at http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm,
but I think Graham's article is clearer (though certainly not as
concise). If you gave up too early on Graham's article, you may
not have reached the "Auto... macros" section toward the end,
which explains how to create the AutoNew and AutoOpen macros he
suggests creating.

--
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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect and
admire what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in the
corner. I would have not have known from reading it that the
registry article applies to Word 2003. I shall now follow it to
the letter. As for the idiot's guide to macros, this tells you
how to create a macro. Great. What it doesn't tell you is what
to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my case). Hence my
aversion to macros: in the absence of such assistance (and where
else might I might find that?), they are totally useless to me.
The same applies to DOS. Many's the time I have been pilloried
for not understanding DOS, yet I have never ever found any
document that explains it in ordinary language, so how am I
expected to understand it? There was a little bit about it in a
Windows Manual I got many years ago. Perhaps the truth is that
you either 'get' these things or you don't. I have 4 degrees
and
am
a
successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that
things of a technical nature usually have to spelled out to me.
There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with
appropriate modification of the version number in the Registry
key name), and Graham provides complete instructions on how to
use his macro in the article he referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003, and
Graham, macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible, I'm
afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly
losing some settings from Tools Options. The easiest
workaround is to force the settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal
template. See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new
Word
doc,
I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I
can get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and unclicking
Click and Type. But they come back when I open the next new
doc, when Click and Type is ticked again. How can I get
unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this problem is
solved permanently? I imagine a registry adjustment would do
the trick. Thanks.

[Graham Mayor]

I checked the page and all the issues raised were already covered, however I
have amended some parts to further aid clarification.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Stefan Blom wrote:
Approximately 1300 people a month view that page [...]

FWIW, I refer people to http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm so
often that I don't even have to look it up; I know it by heart. There
is only one more such link, namely
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html.


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
The article I referred to is one I wrote myself. Approximately 1300
people a month view that page - and only rarely has anyone provided
any feedback to the effect that it is difficult to understand. Where
the criticism has been valid, I have made changes to cover those
criticisms. I have also recently added alternative illustration to
show where Word 2007 differs from the earlier versions.

I said in my original reply

"add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal template."

I then pointed you to my web page where autonew and autoopen macros
are explained as well as how to implement the use of vba code posted
in newsgroup forums.

I also have a page on my web site explaining how to use Norton Ghost
in pictures that a child should be able to understand. Hopefully
mine was not the page you were referring to

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Xylophone wrote:
Thanks, Suzanne. The article mentioned autoopen and autonew but did
not say these are the names you give to the macros you create in the
editor. I have now done so thanks to you.

I have just come away from a research committee where we were much
exercised by the lack of use of plain English in documentation. A
moment's thought would tell the author of the article to which
Graham refers that it does not explain what it sets out to explain
to an idiot. What didn't the author simply run his draft past an
idiot, or a few idiots. I recall the instructions I struggled
with in the case of Norton Ghost, where to me they were literally
incomprehensible. The guy who wrote them would no doubt be offended
by that, and express surprise that anyone should think that. He
understands and he has expressed his understanding. What he did not
do is express it in the language of the ordinary person who does not
understand. That after all is the purpose of instructions.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
AFAIK, the Visual Basic Editor has not changed for Word 2007. It
seems to me that Graham's instructions are very clear. You have
already managed to create your macro and get to the VBE, where I'm
assuming you're seeing this:

Sub Wings()
'
' Wings Macro
' Macro created date by user
'

End Sub

You paste the VBA code you were given above End Sub, then click the
Save button on the VBE toolbar. You don't have to choose where to
save it, as Word already knows this (the module already exists, is
already saved).

But this really won't help you much because Wings is not the
correct name of the macro; you need to create (or edit) a macro
named AutoNew and one called AutoRun. If you didn't find this
information in Graham's article, then you did not read all of it
because there is a section toward the end titled "Auto... macros"
that gives illustrations of several macros similar to the one
you're trying to create.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
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"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
I can't make head nor tail of the alleged 'idiot's guide. Much of
it does not appear in my use of Word, so I have to guess. That
takes me so far. I create a 'Wings' macro. This takes me into MS
Virtual Basic with some lines already there. Then I paste the
line supplied in the email over those lines. This leaves me with
the the line, and only that. Then what? I can't save the line,
as I don't know where it would be saved to, if anywhere. As for
auto entries, I can't see any or any links to or anything to do
with auto entries. So how do I get the line into an auto entry,
etc. as advised.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Okay, let's back up. I agree that it would not have been possible
to know that the
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm article
applies to Word 2003. It was written for (IIRC) Word 2000 and has
not been updated recently, but the principles in it apply to all
versions of Word (even, I suppose, Word 2007, even though it
doesn't have "menus" per se).

As for the "Idiot's Guide," it is not about *creating* macros but
about how to *install* a macro you have been given, which is your
situation. Read it carefully; it's just telling you where to
paste the VBA you've been handed. There is another article on
the same subject at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/CreateAMacro.htm, but I
think Graham's article is clearer (though certainly not as
concise). If you gave up too early on Graham's article, you may
not have reached the "Auto... macros" section toward the end,
which explains how to create the AutoNew and AutoOpen macros he
suggests creating. --
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

Many thanks. It will be frustrating for you guys. I respect
and admire what you do. I am not some geek, biting my nails in
the corner. I would have not have known from reading it that
the registry article applies to Word 2003. I shall now follow
it to the letter. As for the idiot's guide to macros, this
tells you how to create a macro. Great. What it doesn't tell
you is what to put in the macro (kindly been provided in my
case). Hence my aversion to macros: in the absence of such
assistance (and where else might I might find that?), they are
totally useless to me. The same applies to DOS. Many's the
time I have been pilloried for not understanding DOS, yet I
have never ever found any document that explains it in ordinary
language, so how am I expected to understand it? There was a
little bit about it in a Windows Manual I got many years ago.
Perhaps the truth is that you either 'get' these things or you
don't. I have 4 degrees
and
am
a
successful person. But I tend to be literal minded, so that
things of a technical nature usually have to spelled out to me.
There we go.

Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
The link that Stefan gave applies to all versions (with
appropriate modification of the version number in the Registry
key name), and Graham provides complete instructions on how to
use his macro in the article he referred to.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"Xylophone" wrote in message
...
Stefan, your link makes no specific reference to Word 2003,
and Graham, macros are a no-go area for me: incomprehensible,
I'm afraid.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Word 2003 particularly has an irriatting habit of randomly
losing some settings from Tools Options. The easiest
workaround is to force the settings you want in auto macros.
In this case, add the line
Options.AllowClickAndTypeMouse = False
to both an autoopen and an autonew macro in the normal
template. See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Xylophone wrote:
I use Word 2003 on a XP machine. Every time I open a new
Word
doc,
I
get 'wings' attached to the cursor which drives me mad. I
can get rid of them by going into Options/Edit and
unclicking Click and Type. But they come back when I open
the next new doc, when Click and Type is ticked again. How
can I get unclicking Click and Type to stick, so that this
problem is solved permanently? I imagine a registry
adjustment would do the trick. Thanks.