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I wrote a novel which I plan to publish online as a Word document.
At the top of the document Id like to put the words: Acknowledgements Introduction Forward Prologue and have each word be a link pointing to that particular sub-document, so that when the reader clicks the word, he will be able to read the appropriate sub-doc. But heres the problem: If I make the words actual links to other documents online, and if the reader downloads just the manuscript.doc and then goes offline, and then clicks the link, it will either not open, or it will call his browser to open and then go online, and then open the document and everything will be disjointed and confusing. What Id like to do is create a link that will point to a €śsub-document€ť (if you will) buried invisibly inside the manuscript itself. Ive checked quite a bit and I think it is possible to simulate this using macros and some fancy dancing with hidden text. But the average reader downloading the manuscript will get tripped up with safety settings and unauthenticated macros. Is there any other way to link the word to some text that will only appear when the link is clicked? Thank you in advance Steve |
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Why not simplify life and include it in the document?
-- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... I wrote a novel which I plan to publish online as a Word document. At the top of the document Id like to put the words: Acknowledgements Introduction Forward Prologue and have each word be a link pointing to that particular sub-document, so that when the reader clicks the word, he will be able to read the appropriate sub-doc. But heres the problem: If I make the words actual links to other documents online, and if the reader downloads just the manuscript.doc and then goes offline, and then clicks the link, it will either not open, or it will call his browser to open and then go online, and then open the document and everything will be disjointed and confusing. What Id like to do is create a link that will point to a €śsub-document€ť (if you will) buried invisibly inside the manuscript itself. Ive checked quite a bit and I think it is possible to simulate this using macros and some fancy dancing with hidden text. But the average reader downloading the manuscript will get tripped up with safety settings and unauthenticated macros. Is there any other way to link the word to some text that will only appear when the link is clicked? Thank you in advance Steve |
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Yes, your right, that would be the simplest way to handle it. And I suppose I
will ultimately do just that. But I have downloaded and read quite a few books and I have found myself disappointed after reading the acknowledgements and the other stuff authors like to put in there before getting down to the meat of the story. The funny thing is that since it's sitting there right in front of my eyes in readable text, I feel compelled to read the first sentence or two. Then I figure since I've gone this far I might as well read the rest. Then I finish and feel like I wasted my time. Call it a compulsion, but if the text is there in front of me I feel compelled to at least sample a sentence or two, then I'm sucked in. I figure that if a reader sees a link to that information, he might skip it and plunge into the story. Then come back when he feels he has more time to do something leasurely that might not be that profitable or satisfying. That's certainly what I would do if given a choice. (Sorry for the verbose answer . . . . . but I'm a writer. It's what I do . . .. :-) "Terry Farrell" wrote: Why not simplify life and include it in the document? -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... I wrote a novel which I plan to publish online as a Word document. At the top of the document Id like to put the words: Acknowledgements Introduction Forward Prologue and have each word be a link pointing to that particular sub-document, so that when the reader clicks the word, he will be able to read the appropriate sub-doc. But heres the problem: If I make the words actual links to other documents online, and if the reader downloads just the manuscript.doc and then goes offline, and then clicks the link, it will either not open, or it will call his browser to open and then go online, and then open the document and everything will be disjointed and confusing. What Id like to do is create a link that will point to a €śsub-document€ť (if you will) buried invisibly inside the manuscript itself. Ive checked quite a bit and I think it is possible to simulate this using macros and some fancy dancing with hidden text. But the average reader downloading the manuscript will get tripped up with safety settings and unauthenticated macros. Is there any other way to link the word to some text that will only appear when the link is clicked? Thank you in advance Steve |
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I understand. I have to admit that I usually skip over all those items
except perhaps the Introduction - which sometimes has significant backgroud to the book. My analogy would be, who sits through to the end of a movie reading all those reams of names flashing past of the (movie) industry kissing its own butt. Who the hell wants to know who carries the director's coffee and buns or who changes the loo rolls. It's sufficiently torturous to have to endure 10 minutes or more at the start of a movie seeing who is presenting, directing, producing, funding, etc., the movie without 15 additional minutes at the end. At least with a book, you have a choice in skipping what you don't want to read. So I would just include it all. Just my opinion though. Terry "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... Yes, your right, that would be the simplest way to handle it. And I suppose I will ultimately do just that. But I have downloaded and read quite a few books and I have found myself disappointed after reading the acknowledgements and the other stuff authors like to put in there before getting down to the meat of the story. The funny thing is that since it's sitting there right in front of my eyes in readable text, I feel compelled to read the first sentence or two. Then I figure since I've gone this far I might as well read the rest. Then I finish and feel like I wasted my time. Call it a compulsion, but if the text is there in front of me I feel compelled to at least sample a sentence or two, then I'm sucked in. I figure that if a reader sees a link to that information, he might skip it and plunge into the story. Then come back when he feels he has more time to do something leasurely that might not be that profitable or satisfying. That's certainly what I would do if given a choice. (Sorry for the verbose answer . . . . . but I'm a writer. It's what I do . . . :-) "Terry Farrell" wrote: Why not simplify life and include it in the document? -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... I wrote a novel which I plan to publish online as a Word document. At the top of the document Id like to put the words: Acknowledgements Introduction Forward Prologue and have each word be a link pointing to that particular sub-document, so that when the reader clicks the word, he will be able to read the appropriate sub-doc. But heres the problem: If I make the words actual links to other documents online, and if the reader downloads just the manuscript.doc and then goes offline, and then clicks the link, it will either not open, or it will call his browser to open and then go online, and then open the document and everything will be disjointed and confusing. What Id like to do is create a link that will point to a €śsub-document€ť (if you will) buried invisibly inside the manuscript itself. Ive checked quite a bit and I think it is possible to simulate this using macros and some fancy dancing with hidden text. But the average reader downloading the manuscript will get tripped up with safety settings and unauthenticated macros. Is there any other way to link the word to some text that will only appear when the link is clicked? Thank you in advance Steve |
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Sometimes the most interesting bits are in the preface, though this
information is often placed at the end of the book (in which case I find it and read it before the end). When I'm reading a historical novel, or one that incorporates real (or apparently real) places, people, events, or science, I'm always curious as to how much of it is authentic. From the author's notes, cited sources, or acknowledgments, you can usually get some clue as to that. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... I understand. I have to admit that I usually skip over all those items except perhaps the Introduction - which sometimes has significant backgroud to the book. My analogy would be, who sits through to the end of a movie reading all those reams of names flashing past of the (movie) industry kissing its own butt. Who the hell wants to know who carries the director's coffee and buns or who changes the loo rolls. It's sufficiently torturous to have to endure 10 minutes or more at the start of a movie seeing who is presenting, directing, producing, funding, etc., the movie without 15 additional minutes at the end. At least with a book, you have a choice in skipping what you don't want to read. So I would just include it all. Just my opinion though. Terry "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... Yes, your right, that would be the simplest way to handle it. And I suppose I will ultimately do just that. But I have downloaded and read quite a few books and I have found myself disappointed after reading the acknowledgements and the other stuff authors like to put in there before getting down to the meat of the story. The funny thing is that since it's sitting there right in front of my eyes in readable text, I feel compelled to read the first sentence or two. Then I figure since I've gone this far I might as well read the rest. Then I finish and feel like I wasted my time. Call it a compulsion, but if the text is there in front of me I feel compelled to at least sample a sentence or two, then I'm sucked in. I figure that if a reader sees a link to that information, he might skip it and plunge into the story. Then come back when he feels he has more time to do something leasurely that might not be that profitable or satisfying. That's certainly what I would do if given a choice. (Sorry for the verbose answer . . . . . but I'm a writer. It's what I do . . . :-) "Terry Farrell" wrote: Why not simplify life and include it in the document? -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... I wrote a novel which I plan to publish online as a Word document. At the top of the document I'd like to put the words: Acknowledgements Introduction Forward Prologue and have each word be a link pointing to that particular sub-document, so that when the reader clicks the word, he will be able to read the appropriate sub-doc. But here's the problem: If I make the words actual links to other documents online, and if the reader downloads just the manuscript.doc and then goes offline, and then clicks the link, it will either not open, or it will call his browser to open and then go online, and then open the document and everything will be disjointed and confusing. What I'd like to do is create a link that will point to a "sub-document" (if you will) buried invisibly inside the manuscript itself. I've checked quite a bit and I think it is possible to simulate this using macros and some fancy dancing with hidden text. But the average reader downloading the manuscript will get tripped up with safety settings and unauthenticated macros. Is there any other way to link the word to some text that will only appear when the link is clicked? Thank you in advance Steve |
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I agree with that too. I have just read Conn Igulden's Emperor series and
Conqueror series. http://www.conniggulden.com/?page_id=26 Conn includes a wealth of historical facts at the end of each book making it clear where dates, locations and people are real and where parts are just fiction to liven up the reading. The history is almost as interesting as the books. Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Sometimes the most interesting bits are in the preface, though this information is often placed at the end of the book (in which case I find it and read it before the end). When I'm reading a historical novel, or one that incorporates real (or apparently real) places, people, events, or science, I'm always curious as to how much of it is authentic. From the author's notes, cited sources, or acknowledgments, you can usually get some clue as to that. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org |
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I do, because sometimes I want to see the music credits or listen to the
closing music, and sometimes they have outtakes or an "extra" that I'd've missed if I didn't sit through that. See the "The Curse of the Black Pearl" for a prime example of the latter. I also move somewhat slowly and I don't like trying to get through the crowds to the exit. B/ Terry Farrell wrote: I understand. I have to admit that I usually skip over all those items except perhaps the Introduction - which sometimes has significant backgroud to the book. My analogy would be, who sits through to the end of a movie reading all those reams of names flashing past of the (movie) industry kissing its own butt. Who the hell wants to know who carries the director's coffee and buns or who changes the loo rolls. It's sufficiently torturous to have to endure 10 minutes or more at the start of a movie seeing who is presenting, directing, producing, funding, etc., the movie without 15 additional minutes at the end. At least with a book, you have a choice in skipping what you don't want to read. So I would just include it all. Just my opinion though. Terry "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... Yes, your right, that would be the simplest way to handle it. And I suppose I will ultimately do just that. But I have downloaded and read quite a few books and I have found myself disappointed after reading the acknowledgements and the other stuff authors like to put in there before getting down to the meat of the story. The funny thing is that since it's sitting there right in front of my eyes in readable text, I feel compelled to read the first sentence or two. Then I figure since I've gone this far I might as well read the rest. Then I finish and feel like I wasted my time. Call it a compulsion, but if the text is there in front of me I feel compelled to at least sample a sentence or two, then I'm sucked in. I figure that if a reader sees a link to that information, he might skip it and plunge into the story. Then come back when he feels he has more time to do something leasurely that might not be that profitable or satisfying. That's certainly what I would do if given a choice. (Sorry for the verbose answer . . . . . but I'm a writer. It's what I do . . . :-) "Terry Farrell" wrote: Why not simplify life and include it in the document? -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... I wrote a novel which I plan to publish online as a Word document. At the top of the document Id like to put the words: Acknowledgements Introduction Forward Prologue and have each word be a link pointing to that particular sub-document, so that when the reader clicks the word, he will be able to read the appropriate sub-doc. But heres the problem: If I make the words actual links to other documents online, and if the reader downloads just the manuscript.doc and then goes offline, and then clicks the link, it will either not open, or it will call his browser to open and then go online, and then open the document and everything will be disjointed and confusing. What Id like to do is create a link that will point to a €śsub-document€ť (if you will) buried invisibly inside the manuscript itself. Ive checked quite a bit and I think it is possible to simulate this using macros and some fancy dancing with hidden text. But the average reader downloading the manuscript will get tripped up with safety settings and unauthenticated macros. Is there any other way to link the word to some text that will only appear when the link is clicked? Thank you in advance Steve |
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OK. I go along with music credits (that can be important) and possibly
outtakes if they are entertaining - but do you really want to know who is the Best Boy or the Key Grip? Most cinema-goers have no idea what they do, not do they care. Have you ever thought why they show all those credits before showing the outtakes, a preview of the sequel or occasionally the real ending? Well it's because the movie industry is seriously stuck up its own ass. What happened to good old fashioned THE END Terry "Brian Mailman" wrote in message ... I do, because sometimes I want to see the music credits or listen to the closing music, and sometimes they have outtakes or an "extra" that I'd've missed if I didn't sit through that. See the "The Curse of the Black Pearl" for a prime example of the latter. I also move somewhat slowly and I don't like trying to get through the crowds to the exit. B/ Terry Farrell wrote: I understand. I have to admit that I usually skip over all those items except perhaps the Introduction - which sometimes has significant backgroud to the book. My analogy would be, who sits through to the end of a movie reading all those reams of names flashing past of the (movie) industry kissing its own butt. Who the hell wants to know who carries the director's coffee and buns or who changes the loo rolls. It's sufficiently torturous to have to endure 10 minutes or more at the start of a movie seeing who is presenting, directing, producing, funding, etc., the movie without 15 additional minutes at the end. At least with a book, you have a choice in skipping what you don't want to read. So I would just include it all. Just my opinion though. Terry "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... Yes, your right, that would be the simplest way to handle it. And I suppose I will ultimately do just that. But I have downloaded and read quite a few books and I have found myself disappointed after reading the acknowledgements and the other stuff authors like to put in there before getting down to the meat of the story. The funny thing is that since it's sitting there right in front of my eyes in readable text, I feel compelled to read the first sentence or two. Then I figure since I've gone this far I might as well read the rest. Then I finish and feel like I wasted my time. Call it a compulsion, but if the text is there in front of me I feel compelled to at least sample a sentence or two, then I'm sucked in. I figure that if a reader sees a link to that information, he might skip it and plunge into the story. Then come back when he feels he has more time to do something leasurely that might not be that profitable or satisfying. That's certainly what I would do if given a choice. (Sorry for the verbose answer . . . . . but I'm a writer. It's what I do . . . :-) "Terry Farrell" wrote: Why not simplify life and include it in the document? -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... I wrote a novel which I plan to publish online as a Word document. At the top of the document Id like to put the words: Acknowledgements Introduction Forward Prologue and have each word be a link pointing to that particular sub-document, so that when the reader clicks the word, he will be able to read the appropriate sub-doc. But heres the problem: If I make the words actual links to other documents online, and if the reader downloads just the manuscript.doc and then goes offline, and then clicks the link, it will either not open, or it will call his browser to open and then go online, and then open the document and everything will be disjointed and confusing. What Id like to do is create a link that will point to a €śsub-document€ť (if you will) buried invisibly inside the manuscript itself. Ive checked quite a bit and I think it is possible to simulate this using macros and some fancy dancing with hidden text. But the average reader downloading the manuscript will get tripped up with safety settings and unauthenticated macros. Is there any other way to link the word to some text that will only appear when the link is clicked? Thank you in advance Steve |
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I have to say, though, that I often feel seriously frustrated when I watch
an old movie with NO credits at the end because all the credits were at the beginning. After I've seen the movie and want to know who the actors were (because I missed the opening credits or wasn't paying attention), I have to resort to IMDb (often I have to, anyway, because the end titles are squashed or too small to be readable). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... OK. I go along with music credits (that can be important) and possibly outtakes if they are entertaining - but do you really want to know who is the Best Boy or the Key Grip? Most cinema-goers have no idea what they do, not do they care. Have you ever thought why they show all those credits before showing the outtakes, a preview of the sequel or occasionally the real ending? Well it's because the movie industry is seriously stuck up its own ass. What happened to good old fashioned THE END Terry "Brian Mailman" wrote in message ... I do, because sometimes I want to see the music credits or listen to the closing music, and sometimes they have outtakes or an "extra" that I'd've missed if I didn't sit through that. See the "The Curse of the Black Pearl" for a prime example of the latter. I also move somewhat slowly and I don't like trying to get through the crowds to the exit. B/ Terry Farrell wrote: I understand. I have to admit that I usually skip over all those items except perhaps the Introduction - which sometimes has significant backgroud to the book. My analogy would be, who sits through to the end of a movie reading all those reams of names flashing past of the (movie) industry kissing its own butt. Who the hell wants to know who carries the director's coffee and buns or who changes the loo rolls. It's sufficiently torturous to have to endure 10 minutes or more at the start of a movie seeing who is presenting, directing, producing, funding, etc., the movie without 15 additional minutes at the end. At least with a book, you have a choice in skipping what you don't want to read. So I would just include it all. Just my opinion though. Terry "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... Yes, your right, that would be the simplest way to handle it. And I suppose I will ultimately do just that. But I have downloaded and read quite a few books and I have found myself disappointed after reading the acknowledgements and the other stuff authors like to put in there before getting down to the meat of the story. The funny thing is that since it's sitting there right in front of my eyes in readable text, I feel compelled to read the first sentence or two. Then I figure since I've gone this far I might as well read the rest. Then I finish and feel like I wasted my time. Call it a compulsion, but if the text is there in front of me I feel compelled to at least sample a sentence or two, then I'm sucked in. I figure that if a reader sees a link to that information, he might skip it and plunge into the story. Then come back when he feels he has more time to do something leasurely that might not be that profitable or satisfying. That's certainly what I would do if given a choice. (Sorry for the verbose answer . . . . . but I'm a writer. It's what I do . . . :-) "Terry Farrell" wrote: Why not simplify life and include it in the document? -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... I wrote a novel which I plan to publish online as a Word document. At the top of the document I'd like to put the words: Acknowledgements Introduction Forward Prologue and have each word be a link pointing to that particular sub-document, so that when the reader clicks the word, he will be able to read the appropriate sub-doc. But here's the problem: If I make the words actual links to other documents online, and if the reader downloads just the manuscript.doc and then goes offline, and then clicks the link, it will either not open, or it will call his browser to open and then go online, and then open the document and everything will be disjointed and confusing. What I'd like to do is create a link that will point to a "sub-document" (if you will) buried invisibly inside the manuscript itself. I've checked quite a bit and I think it is possible to simulate this using macros and some fancy dancing with hidden text. But the average reader downloading the manuscript will get tripped up with safety settings and unauthenticated macros. Is there any other way to link the word to some text that will only appear when the link is clicked? Thank you in advance Steve |
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While I personally have no interest in who the producer's driver was or who
any number of sundry other people are, I am sure that those in the industry are interested and being at the end if you don't want to watch them you don't have to. What I personally find infuriating is TV companies who split the screen to put trails over the start of the credits so that the all important cast listing is impossible to read, with voice-overs to destroy the music. And don't even get me started on the subject of TV channel logos that seem to occupy a large portion of the screen. I know which channel I am on because I selected it! I don't need a constant reminder. Grrrrr! And do deaf people really find that tiny figure signing in the corner of the screen - so small that you have to concentrate on it, but so large that it is distracting - more helpful than sub-titles? -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: I have to say, though, that I often feel seriously frustrated when I watch an old movie with NO credits at the end because all the credits were at the beginning. After I've seen the movie and want to know who the actors were (because I missed the opening credits or wasn't paying attention), I have to resort to IMDb (often I have to, anyway, because the end titles are squashed or too small to be readable). "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... OK. I go along with music credits (that can be important) and possibly outtakes if they are entertaining - but do you really want to know who is the Best Boy or the Key Grip? Most cinema-goers have no idea what they do, not do they care. Have you ever thought why they show all those credits before showing the outtakes, a preview of the sequel or occasionally the real ending? Well it's because the movie industry is seriously stuck up its own ass. What happened to good old fashioned THE END Terry "Brian Mailman" wrote in message ... I do, because sometimes I want to see the music credits or listen to the closing music, and sometimes they have outtakes or an "extra" that I'd've missed if I didn't sit through that. See the "The Curse of the Black Pearl" for a prime example of the latter. I also move somewhat slowly and I don't like trying to get through the crowds to the exit. B/ Terry Farrell wrote: I understand. I have to admit that I usually skip over all those items except perhaps the Introduction - which sometimes has significant backgroud to the book. My analogy would be, who sits through to the end of a movie reading all those reams of names flashing past of the (movie) industry kissing its own butt. Who the hell wants to know who carries the director's coffee and buns or who changes the loo rolls. It's sufficiently torturous to have to endure 10 minutes or more at the start of a movie seeing who is presenting, directing, producing, funding, etc., the movie without 15 additional minutes at the end. At least with a book, you have a choice in skipping what you don't want to read. So I would just include it all. Just my opinion though. Terry "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... Yes, your right, that would be the simplest way to handle it. And I suppose I will ultimately do just that. But I have downloaded and read quite a few books and I have found myself disappointed after reading the acknowledgements and the other stuff authors like to put in there before getting down to the meat of the story. The funny thing is that since it's sitting there right in front of my eyes in readable text, I feel compelled to read the first sentence or two. Then I figure since I've gone this far I might as well read the rest. Then I finish and feel like I wasted my time. Call it a compulsion, but if the text is there in front of me I feel compelled to at least sample a sentence or two, then I'm sucked in. I figure that if a reader sees a link to that information, he might skip it and plunge into the story. Then come back when he feels he has more time to do something leasurely that might not be that profitable or satisfying. That's certainly what I would do if given a choice. (Sorry for the verbose answer . . . . . but I'm a writer. It's what I do . . . :-) "Terry Farrell" wrote: Why not simplify life and include it in the document? -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "grasshopper1947" wrote in message ... I wrote a novel which I plan to publish online as a Word document. At the top of the document I'd like to put the words: Acknowledgements Introduction Forward Prologue and have each word be a link pointing to that particular sub-document, so that when the reader clicks the word, he will be able to read the appropriate sub-doc. But here's the problem: If I make the words actual links to other documents online, and if the reader downloads just the manuscript.doc and then goes offline, and then clicks the link, it will either not open, or it will call his browser to open and then go online, and then open the document and everything will be disjointed and confusing. What I'd like to do is create a link that will point to a "sub-document" (if you will) buried invisibly inside the manuscript itself. I've checked quite a bit and I think it is possible to simulate this using macros and some fancy dancing with hidden text. But the average reader downloading the manuscript will get tripped up with safety settings and unauthenticated macros. Is there any other way to link the word to some text that will only appear when the link is clicked? Thank you in advance Steve |
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Me too for most of that. I hate previews of TV programs. If I am watching an
episode of something that stops leaving the viewers in suspense, I don't want to see what is going to happen in the next episode until next week. Even more annoying is - as you note Graham - squashing up to half the screen of the end credits just to show a preview of the next program. For heaven's sake, just tell me, I can wait. I don't need to see a preview of the News headlines immediately before the News. TV has got to stop employing morons that are dumbing down life and get some real program planners in. And talking about 'logos', I've noticed that the new trend of showing a preview of what is coming on next for ANOTHER channel complete with their logo: this is confusing the hell out of many people. The number of times I've watched say BBC1 and at the end of a program they have advertised what's on next on BBC2 and my wife has prompted me, 'Well aren't you going to switch over to BBC1 for the News'? Terry "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... While I personally have no interest in who the producer's driver was or who any number of sundry other people are, I am sure that those in the industry are interested and being at the end if you don't want to watch them you don't have to. What I personally find infuriating is TV companies who split the screen to put trails over the start of the credits so that the all important cast listing is impossible to read, with voice-overs to destroy the music. And don't even get me started on the subject of TV channel logos that seem to occupy a large portion of the screen. I know which channel I am on because I selected it! I don't need a constant reminder. Grrrrr! And do deaf people really find that tiny figure signing in the corner of the screen - so small that you have to concentrate on it, but so large that it is distracting - more helpful than sub-titles? -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP |
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It gets worse. I am currently watching the first series of Dexter (brilliant
by the way) from an internet source, and that has ribbons across the bottom of the screen advertising the next program popping up every few minutes and the third series has a damned great logo bottom right pointing out that the image is in HDTV - even though I am not watching it on an HD TV. And here in Cyprus the local TV companies frequently use a news ticker across the top of the screen and break off the broadcast program to a trail for another program without any regard for the action on screen (mid sentence is common) and without any dividing marker, so you can often be left wondering whether the new scene is part of the film you are watching of something else. Given the numbers of students taking media studies, you would expect that at least some of them might actually have learned something - but apparently not -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Terry Farrell wrote: Me too for most of that. I hate previews of TV programs. If I am watching an episode of something that stops leaving the viewers in suspense, I don't want to see what is going to happen in the next episode until next week. Even more annoying is - as you note Graham - squashing up to half the screen of the end credits just to show a preview of the next program. For heaven's sake, just tell me, I can wait. I don't need to see a preview of the News headlines immediately before the News. TV has got to stop employing morons that are dumbing down life and get some real program planners in. And talking about 'logos', I've noticed that the new trend of showing a preview of what is coming on next for ANOTHER channel complete with their logo: this is confusing the hell out of many people. The number of times I've watched say BBC1 and at the end of a program they have advertised what's on next on BBC2 and my wife has prompted me, 'Well aren't you going to switch over to BBC1 for the News'? Terry "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... While I personally have no interest in who the producer's driver was or who any number of sundry other people are, I am sure that those in the industry are interested and being at the end if you don't want to watch them you don't have to. What I personally find infuriating is TV companies who split the screen to put trails over the start of the credits so that the all important cast listing is impossible to read, with voice-overs to destroy the music. And don't even get me started on the subject of TV channel logos that seem to occupy a large portion of the screen. I know which channel I am on because I selected it! I don't need a constant reminder. Grrrrr! And do deaf people really find that tiny figure signing in the corner of the screen - so small that you have to concentrate on it, but so large that it is distracting - more helpful than sub-titles? -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP |
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I'll second all of those complaints. I suppose it isn't necessary to note
that we've wandered pretty far off-topic here? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... It gets worse. I am currently watching the first series of Dexter (brilliant by the way) from an internet source, and that has ribbons across the bottom of the screen advertising the next program popping up every few minutes and the third series has a damned great logo bottom right pointing out that the image is in HDTV - even though I am not watching it on an HD TV. And here in Cyprus the local TV companies frequently use a news ticker across the top of the screen and break off the broadcast program to a trail for another program without any regard for the action on screen (mid sentence is common) and without any dividing marker, so you can often be left wondering whether the new scene is part of the film you are watching of something else. Given the numbers of students taking media studies, you would expect that at least some of them might actually have learned something - but apparently not -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Terry Farrell wrote: Me too for most of that. I hate previews of TV programs. If I am watching an episode of something that stops leaving the viewers in suspense, I don't want to see what is going to happen in the next episode until next week. Even more annoying is - as you note Graham - squashing up to half the screen of the end credits just to show a preview of the next program. For heaven's sake, just tell me, I can wait. I don't need to see a preview of the News headlines immediately before the News. TV has got to stop employing morons that are dumbing down life and get some real program planners in. And talking about 'logos', I've noticed that the new trend of showing a preview of what is coming on next for ANOTHER channel complete with their logo: this is confusing the hell out of many people. The number of times I've watched say BBC1 and at the end of a program they have advertised what's on next on BBC2 and my wife has prompted me, 'Well aren't you going to switch over to BBC1 for the News'? Terry "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... While I personally have no interest in who the producer's driver was or who any number of sundry other people are, I am sure that those in the industry are interested and being at the end if you don't want to watch them you don't have to. What I personally find infuriating is TV companies who split the screen to put trails over the start of the credits so that the all important cast listing is impossible to read, with voice-overs to destroy the music. And don't even get me started on the subject of TV channel logos that seem to occupy a large portion of the screen. I know which channel I am on because I selected it! I don't need a constant reminder. Grrrrr! And do deaf people really find that tiny figure signing in the corner of the screen - so small that you have to concentrate on it, but so large that it is distracting - more helpful than sub-titles? -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP |
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I download several TV progs from the Internet (House, Heroes, Dexter from
http://eztv.it/index.php) and get really annoyed by the logos. But on the good side is the Ads have been removed - which is more than sufficient compensation. I think we are off topic now! Terry "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... It gets worse. I am currently watching the first series of Dexter (brilliant by the way) from an internet source, and that has ribbons across the bottom of the screen advertising the next program popping up every few minutes and the third series has a damned great logo bottom right pointing out that the image is in HDTV - even though I am not watching it on an HD TV. And here in Cyprus the local TV companies frequently use a news ticker across the top of the screen and break off the broadcast program to a trail for another program without any regard for the action on screen (mid sentence is common) and without any dividing marker, so you can often be left wondering whether the new scene is part of the film you are watching of something else. Given the numbers of students taking media studies, you would expect that at least some of them might actually have learned something - but apparently not -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP |
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