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Word does a good job of guessing whether you want opening or closing quotes,
but there are some places where it consistently guesses one way or the
other, and this is often wrong. For example, if you press " after an em
dash, you'll get opening quotes, which are fine if the dash introduces a
quotation but not so good if it ends one. When you AutoFormat a document
that has quotes at the beginning of a line following a line break, you'll
get closing quotes, which doesn't make any kind of sense to me. A single
quote at the beginning of a word will always be an opening quote; if you
want an apostrophe (closing single quote) instead, you can insert it
manually using the Ctrl+', ' keyboard shortcut.

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Thanks Suzanne, however that does not solve the problem. I am not so
concerned with word changing opening quotes to closing or visa versa, the
problem is that curly quotes are the reverse of each other. I have tried to
change auto correct options but the only option working is to change to
straight quotes, if I want curly quotes how can I make them behave and not
"flip" on the opposite side? Usin insert symbol seems a cumbersome solution.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word does a good job of guessing whether you want opening or closing quotes,
but there are some places where it consistently guesses one way or the
other, and this is often wrong. For example, if you press " after an em
dash, you'll get opening quotes, which are fine if the dash introduces a
quotation but not so good if it ends one. When you AutoFormat a document
that has quotes at the beginning of a line following a line break, you'll
get closing quotes, which doesn't make any kind of sense to me. A single
quote at the beginning of a word will always be an opening quote; if you
want an apostrophe (closing single quote) instead, you can insert it
manually using the Ctrl+', ' keyboard shortcut.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

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If you're saying that you're routinely getting quotes the opposite of what
is required or that quotes are changing direction after they are inserted,
then I have no experience of this and no explanation for it unless possibly
your keyboard language setting is incorrect.

I agree that Insert | Symbol is not a satisfactory solution (I have to do
this in FrontPage, and it is very distracting), and the built-in keyboard
shortcuts are not much better. I'm sorry I don't have a better answer.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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all may benefit.

"Mary jane" wrote in message
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Thanks Suzanne, however that does not solve the problem. I am not so
concerned with word changing opening quotes to closing or visa versa, the
problem is that curly quotes are the reverse of each other. I have tried

to
change auto correct options but the only option working is to change to
straight quotes, if I want curly quotes how can I make them behave and not
"flip" on the opposite side? Usin insert symbol seems a cumbersome

solution.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word does a good job of guessing whether you want opening or closing

quotes,
but there are some places where it consistently guesses one way or the
other, and this is often wrong. For example, if you press " after an em
dash, you'll get opening quotes, which are fine if the dash introduces a
quotation but not so good if it ends one. When you AutoFormat a document
that has quotes at the beginning of a line following a line break,

you'll
get closing quotes, which doesn't make any kind of sense to me. A single
quote at the beginning of a word will always be an opening quote; if you
want an apostrophe (closing single quote) instead, you can insert it
manually using the Ctrl+', ' keyboard shortcut.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Mary jane" wrote in message
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Thanks but this is happening to someone else that asked me how to solve it,
that would mean both our keyboard settings are incorrect, very strange

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you're saying that you're routinely getting quotes the opposite of what
is required or that quotes are changing direction after they are inserted,
then I have no experience of this and no explanation for it unless possibly
your keyboard language setting is incorrect.

I agree that Insert | Symbol is not a satisfactory solution (I have to do
this in FrontPage, and it is very distracting), and the built-in keyboard
shortcuts are not much better. I'm sorry I don't have a better answer.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Mary jane" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne, however that does not solve the problem. I am not so
concerned with word changing opening quotes to closing or visa versa, the
problem is that curly quotes are the reverse of each other. I have tried

to
change auto correct options but the only option working is to change to
straight quotes, if I want curly quotes how can I make them behave and not
"flip" on the opposite side? Usin insert symbol seems a cumbersome

solution.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word does a good job of guessing whether you want opening or closing

quotes,
but there are some places where it consistently guesses one way or the
other, and this is often wrong. For example, if you press " after an em
dash, you'll get opening quotes, which are fine if the dash introduces a
quotation but not so good if it ends one. When you AutoFormat a document
that has quotes at the beginning of a line following a line break,

you'll
get closing quotes, which doesn't make any kind of sense to me. A single
quote at the beginning of a word will always be an opening quote; if you
want an apostrophe (closing single quote) instead, you can insert it
manually using the Ctrl+', ' keyboard shortcut.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

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I'm a bit confused by this question. Curly quotes are meant to be different
at each end - flipped, or the reverse of each other, or however you want to
express it. Are you really asking how to get, effectively, opening curly
quotes in place of closing curly quotes?

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Enjoy,
Tony


"Mary jane" wrote in message
...
Thanks but this is happening to someone else that asked me how to solve

it,
that would mean both our keyboard settings are incorrect, very strange

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you're saying that you're routinely getting quotes the opposite of

what
is required or that quotes are changing direction after they are

inserted,
then I have no experience of this and no explanation for it unless

possibly
your keyboard language setting is incorrect.

I agree that Insert | Symbol is not a satisfactory solution (I have to

do
this in FrontPage, and it is very distracting), and the built-in

keyboard
shortcuts are not much better. I'm sorry I don't have a better answer.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Mary jane" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne, however that does not solve the problem. I am not so
concerned with word changing opening quotes to closing or visa versa,

the
problem is that curly quotes are the reverse of each other. I have

tried
to
change auto correct options but the only option working is to change

to
straight quotes, if I want curly quotes how can I make them behave and

not
"flip" on the opposite side? Usin insert symbol seems a cumbersome

solution.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word does a good job of guessing whether you want opening or closing

quotes,
but there are some places where it consistently guesses one way or

the
other, and this is often wrong. For example, if you press " after an

em
dash, you'll get opening quotes, which are fine if the dash

introduces a
quotation but not so good if it ends one. When you AutoFormat a

document
that has quotes at the beginning of a line following a line break,

you'll
get closing quotes, which doesn't make any kind of sense to me. A

single
quote at the beginning of a word will always be an opening quote; if

you
want an apostrophe (closing single quote) instead, you can insert it
manually using the Ctrl+', ' keyboard shortcut.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

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"Tony Jollans" wrote:
I'm a bit confused by this question. Curly quotes are meant to be
different
at each end - flipped, or the reverse of each other, or however you
want to
express it.


Actually, the correct appearance of typographical quotation marks
depends on the language specified for text.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



Are you really asking how to get, effectively, opening
curly
quotes in place of closing curly quotes?

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Mary jane" wrote in message
...
Thanks but this is happening to someone else that asked me how to

solve
it,
that would mean both our keyboard settings are incorrect, very

strange

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you're saying that you're routinely getting quotes the

opposite of
what
is required or that quotes are changing direction after they are

inserted,
then I have no experience of this and no explanation for it

unless
possibly
your keyboard language setting is incorrect.

I agree that Insert | Symbol is not a satisfactory solution (I

have to
do
this in FrontPage, and it is very distracting), and the built-in

keyboard
shortcuts are not much better. I'm sorry I don't have a better

answer.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Mary jane" wrote in

message
...
Thanks Suzanne, however that does not solve the problem. I am

not so
concerned with word changing opening quotes to closing or visa

versa,
the
problem is that curly quotes are the reverse of each other. I

have
tried
to
change auto correct options but the only option working is to

change
to
straight quotes, if I want curly quotes how can I make them

behave and
not
"flip" on the opposite side? Usin insert symbol seems a

cumbersome
solution.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word does a good job of guessing whether you want opening or

closing
quotes,
but there are some places where it consistently guesses one

way or
the
other, and this is often wrong. For example, if you press "

after an
em
dash, you'll get opening quotes, which are fine if the dash

introduces a
quotation but not so good if it ends one. When you

AutoFormat a
document
that has quotes at the beginning of a line following a line

break,
you'll
get closing quotes, which doesn't make any kind of sense to

me. A
single
quote at the beginning of a word will always be an opening

quote; if
you
want an apostrophe (closing single quote) instead, you can

insert it
manually using the Ctrl+', ' keyboard shortcut.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to

the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Mary jane" wrote in

message
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