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Weird problem with section breaks and printing
Hi there, I have a very strange problem happening in a document I'm
trying to print. There is one section of the document that is in two- column format, and this is followed by a table that runs over two pages. When I print the document double-sided, the first page of the table prints out upside-down! The second page of the table comes out right way up. It looks fine in print preview and prints fine if I print it single-sided. The problem is not with the table, as I have tried adding a page in with normal text on it, and that prints upside down too. Basically whatever comes on the first page immediately after the column text section prints upside down!! I've read up a bit on section breaks and tried different types of breaks, and also tried adding a column break before the section break (as the text ends at the end of the first column), but nothing seems to work. Any ideas anyone?????? |
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One possibility--This sounds like your duplex printer is flipping over
the pages the wrong way, or rather, the way your printer flips pages is not the way the computer expects it to. Explore all the printer options in the File | Print dialog--with some printers, you can choose how duplex printing works--whether it flips the paper on the long edge or the short edge. If you have a short-edge flipping printer, but the printer settings say flip on the long edge, you would get upside-down text on alternate pages. I'm not totally clear from your question whether you are getting upside-down text on the *same* page as right-side-up text. If you are, then the section break *could* account for that within the diagnosis above, as section breaks often mean the next section of the document is sent to the printer as a different print job, and thus might be read by the printer as a different "page" that needs to be reversed. So it's still worth checking the printer options. If you can't find a setting, make sure that you are using the exact printer driver for the printer you have, and check the website for the printer to see if there is an updated printer. In general, when Print Preview is correct, but the printed output is wrong, that points to everything in Word being set up correctly, and something having gone wrong with the communication between Word and the printer--which is handled by the printer driver and print options. Meginozz wrote: Hi there, I have a very strange problem happening in a document I'm trying to print. There is one section of the document that is in two- column format, and this is followed by a table that runs over two pages. When I print the document double-sided, the first page of the table prints out upside-down! The second page of the table comes out right way up. It looks fine in print preview and prints fine if I print it single-sided. The problem is not with the table, as I have tried adding a page in with normal text on it, and that prints upside down too. Basically whatever comes on the first page immediately after the column text section prints upside down!! I've read up a bit on section breaks and tried different types of breaks, and also tried adding a column break before the section break (as the text ends at the end of the first column), but nothing seems to work. Any ideas anyone?????? |
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Thanks Daiya, but I forgot to mention that it's ONLY this one page
that prints upside down. And the upside down page comes on a separate page - the page that gets printed after it flips over. The rest of the document prints fine, and I don't think it's the printer driver or the settings, as it was printed by a guy who's been printing out the old version of this document double-sided for ages and is using all the same settings. The problem just started when I created this new document. The two-column section was copied from the old document but the table I created from scratch. But as I get the same problem if I just put text on the page after the columns, I don't think it's the table causing the problem. I'm 99% certain it's something to do with the section breaks, and from what you've said, probably to do with the printer seeing it a separate print job. But I can't figure out what or how to fix it???? Megan On Feb 15, 5:15 am, Daiya Mitchell wrote: One possibility--This sounds like your duplex printer is flipping over the pages the wrong way, or rather, the way your printer flips pages is not the way the computer expects it to. Explore all the printer options in the File | Print dialog--with some printers, you can choose how duplex printing works--whether it flips the paper on the long edge or the short edge. If you have a short-edge flipping printer, but the printer settings say flip on the long edge, you would get upside-down text on alternate pages. I'm not totally clear from your question whether you are getting upside-down text on the *same* page as right-side-up text. If you are, then the section break *could* account for that within the diagnosis above, as section breaks often mean the next section of the document is sent to the printer as a different print job, and thus might be read by the printer as a different "page" that needs to be reversed. So it's still worth checking the printer options. If you can't find a setting, make sure that you are using the exact printer driver for the printer you have, and check the website for the printer to see if there is an updated printer. In general, when Print Preview is correct, but the printed output is wrong, that points to everything in Word being set up correctly, and something having gone wrong with the communication between Word and the printer--which is handled by the printer driver and print options. |
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Huh. No idea. More guesses:
1) you could try deleting and re-creating a fresh section break (perhaps on a copy of the doc): 2) If it's just this document, you could try the corrupt document fixes on a copy of the doc: a) copy the entire thing, *excluding* the last paragraph mark, into a new document. That last paragraph mark holds a lot of information which can get corrupted, and copying the text into a document with a fresh one keeps your formatting, but can fix some glitches. A paragraph mark is a ¶. Click on ¶ on the standard toolbar to show nonprinting characters, including paragraph marks. b) the Save as Webpage and Back as described he http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm 3) Standard practice in such situations would be to check the website of the printer manufacturer for an updated printer *driver* (I left that word out earlier) and install it. The existing driver may have gone crazy--try reinstalling the printer driver even if a newer one does not exist. Meginozz wrote: Thanks Daiya, but I forgot to mention that it's ONLY this one page that prints upside down. And the upside down page comes on a separate page - the page that gets printed after it flips over. The rest of the document prints fine, and I don't think it's the printer driver or the settings, as it was printed by a guy who's been printing out the old version of this document double-sided for ages and is using all the same settings. The problem just started when I created this new document. The two-column section was copied from the old document but the table I created from scratch. But as I get the same problem if I just put text on the page after the columns, I don't think it's the table causing the problem. I'm 99% certain it's something to do with the section breaks, and from what you've said, probably to do with the printer seeing it a separate print job. But I can't figure out what or how to fix it???? Megan On Feb 15, 5:15 am, Daiya Mitchell wrote: One possibility--This sounds like your duplex printer is flipping over the pages the wrong way, or rather, the way your printer flips pages is not the way the computer expects it to. Explore all the printer options in the File | Print dialog--with some printers, you can choose how duplex printing works--whether it flips the paper on the long edge or the short edge. If you have a short-edge flipping printer, but the printer settings say flip on the long edge, you would get upside-down text on alternate pages. I'm not totally clear from your question whether you are getting upside-down text on the *same* page as right-side-up text. If you are, then the section break *could* account for that within the diagnosis above, as section breaks often mean the next section of the document is sent to the printer as a different print job, and thus might be read by the printer as a different "page" that needs to be reversed. So it's still worth checking the printer options. If you can't find a setting, make sure that you are using the exact printer driver for the printer you have, and check the website for the printer to see if there is an updated printer. In general, when Print Preview is correct, but the printed output is wrong, that points to everything in Word being set up correctly, and something having gone wrong with the communication between Word and the printer--which is handled by the printer driver and print options. |
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Nope.
1) Didn't work. 2) a) Didn't work b) Deleted lots of useful formatting and didn't work either (the link you gave mentioned "Save as Web Page" rather than "Save as Web Page (Filtered) option, but I only had the former to choose from anyway (am on Word 2003)) 3) Haven't tried this as it's happening on more than one computer and only on this page, so unlikely to be the printer driver and therefore not grounds to convice the guys it should be reinstalled. Have emailed it to myself at home and will see what happens to it on my printer. Spent enough time on this, so if that doesn't produce a better result will give up, and people will just have to be happy with a PDF version, which prints out fine. Thanks for trying Daiya. On Feb 15, 9:48 am, Daiya Mitchell wrote: Huh. No idea. More guesses: 1) you could try deleting and re-creating a fresh section break (perhaps on a copy of the doc): 2) If it's just this document, you could try the corrupt document fixes on a copy of the doc: a) copy the entire thing, *excluding* the last paragraph mark, into a new document. That last paragraph mark holds a lot of information which can get corrupted, and copying the text into a document with a fresh one keeps your formatting, but can fix some glitches. A paragraph mark is a ¶. Click on ¶ on the standard toolbar to show nonprinting characters, including paragraph marks. b) the Save as Webpage and Back as described hehttp://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm 3) Standard practice in such situations would be to check the website of the printer manufacturer for an updated printer *driver* (I left that word out earlier) and install it. The existing driver may have gone crazy--try reinstalling the printer driver even if a newer one does not exist. |
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Sorry. Out of ideas. Maybe someone else?
Meginozz wrote: Nope. 1) Didn't work. 2) a) Didn't work b) Deleted lots of useful formatting and didn't work either (the link you gave mentioned "Save as Web Page" rather than "Save as Web Page (Filtered) option, but I only had the former to choose from anyway (am on Word 2003)) 3) Haven't tried this as it's happening on more than one computer and only on this page, so unlikely to be the printer driver and therefore not grounds to convice the guys it should be reinstalled. Have emailed it to myself at home and will see what happens to it on my printer. Spent enough time on this, so if that doesn't produce a better result will give up, and people will just have to be happy with a PDF version, which prints out fine. Thanks for trying Daiya. On Feb 15, 9:48 am, Daiya Mitchell wrote: Huh. No idea. More guesses: 1) you could try deleting and re-creating a fresh section break (perhaps on a copy of the doc): 2) If it's just this document, you could try the corrupt document fixes on a copy of the doc: a) copy the entire thing, *excluding* the last paragraph mark, into a new document. That last paragraph mark holds a lot of information which can get corrupted, and copying the text into a document with a fresh one keeps your formatting, but can fix some glitches. A paragraph mark is a ¶. Click on ¶ on the standard toolbar to show nonprinting characters, including paragraph marks. b) the Save as Webpage and Back as described hehttp://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm 3) Standard practice in such situations would be to check the website of the printer manufacturer for an updated printer *driver* (I left that word out earlier) and install it. The existing driver may have gone crazy--try reinstalling the printer driver even if a newer one does not exist. |
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