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I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers
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Is your text direction set to: right-to-left?
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. . |
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Paragraph by paragraph; Text Direction (the button on the Home tab)
can't be included in a paragraph style. If there's a way to set Text Direction for a section, I didn't find it in Page Setup. On Nov 1, 12:50*am, Guy Lydig wrote: Is your text direction set to: right-to-left? "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. |
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Mr. Daniels,
I don't have "support for ... languages" enabled so I didn't test. However this might help you: Change paragraph direction The feature or some of the options described in this Help topic are only available if support for right-to-left (right-to-left: Refers to keyboard settings, document views, user interface objects, and the direction in which text is displayed. Arabic and Hebrew are right-to-left languages.) languages is enabled through Microsoft Office Language Settings. 1.. Place the insertion point in the paragraph that you want to change, or select several paragraphs. 2.. Do one of the following: a.. To have text begin from the left, click Left-to-Right on the Formatting toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT and then SHIFT+F10.). a.. To have text begin from the right, click Right-to-Left on the Formatting toolbar. When you change the paragraph direction, Microsoft Word leaves justified and centered text as it is. In the case of left-aligned or right-aligned text, Word flips the alignment to its opposite. For example, if you have a left-to-right paragraph that is right aligned, such as the date at the top of a letter, clicking Right-to-Left results in a right-to-left paragraph that is left aligned. That being said, and ICBW, based on what appears to be avialabe programatically, Line Numbers can only be positioned in the left margin: Sub ScratchMaco() With ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.LineNumbering .Active = True .CountBy = 5 'DistanceFromText: Returns or sets the distance (in points) between the right edge _ 'of line numbers and the left edge of the document text. Read/write Single. .DistanceFromText = 5 End With End Sub As you should see, DistanceFromText is based on "the left edge of the document text." A negative value creates and error. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Paragraph by paragraph; Text Direction (the button on the Home tab) can't be included in a paragraph style. If there's a way to set Text Direction for a section, I didn't find it in Page Setup. On Nov 1, 12:50 am, Guy Lydig wrote: Is your text direction set to: right-to-left? "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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What did you include there that I didn't already describe? Text
direction is set paragraph by paragraph, and cannot be assigned to a paragraph style, and apparently cannot be assigned section by section, either; and line numbers apparently cannot be placed in the right margin, even with right-to-left text. And something has gone very wrong at the end of your message. On Nov 1, 10:48*am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, I don't have "support for ... languages" enabled so I didn't test. *However this might help you: * * * Change paragraph direction * * * The feature or some of the options described in this Help topic are only available if support for right-to-left (right-to-left: Refers to keyboard settings, document views, user interface objects, and the direction in which text is displayed. Arabic and Hebrew are right-to-left languages..) languages is enabled through Microsoft Office Language Settings. * * * * 1.. Place the insertion point in the paragraph that you want to change, or select several paragraphs. * * * * 2.. Do one of the following: * * * * * a.. To have text begin from the left, click Left-to-Right *on the Formatting toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT and then SHIFT+F10.). * * * * * a.. To have text begin from the right, click Right-to-Left on the Formatting toolbar. * * * When you change the paragraph direction, Microsoft Word leaves justified and centered text as it is. In the case of left-aligned or right-aligned text, Word flips the alignment to its opposite. For example, if you have a left-to-right paragraph that is right aligned, such as the date at the top of a letter, clicking Right-to-Left *results in a right-to-left paragraph that is left aligned. That being said, and ICBW, based on what appears to be avialabe programatically, Line Numbers can only be positioned in the left margin: Sub ScratchMaco() With ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.LineNumbering * .Active = True * .CountBy = 5 * 'DistanceFromText: Returns or sets the distance (in points) between the right edge _ * 'of line numbers and the left edge of the document text. Read/write Single. * .DistanceFromText = 5 End With End Sub As you should see, DistanceFromText is based on "the left edge of the document text." *A negative value creates and error. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Paragraph by paragraph; Text Direction (the button on the Home tab) can't be included in a paragraph style. If there's a way to set Text Direction for a section, I didn't find it in Page Setup. On Nov 1, 12:50 am, Guy Lydig wrote: Is your text direction set to: right-to-left? "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. begin 666 default.aspx?AssetID=ZA060445861033 *2DQ,3/CX M^&6/W;6UM2(B(M7@]5J$U,;&QIJ:FBM1G3EJM/\"E2ID%KO#9BN6J2V\W- MS6QL;-C8V$ETPS)7I-'=\V1W\;3[W;]82GZ#X^/F"+W"9+E5M;6]/@]\'! MP2M5KG5U=41$1#0T-,?7]#HZ.G!P-/] `````````````````````````` M`````````````````````````````````"'Y! ``````+ `````5`!0```9V MP(!P2"P:`X"DLE"IO0YC-*!4RKT"L6YD0F-R_3R,5:*4./KC*"&! 8`E2R M1*H`065NP$0)$\+!Q-W`!D:"7Y^`!\B&!V$"@80B4D.%Q82A$J422 I)9I)G$D4%:%]J$LIUA)6JU*K[!67K.QM;:T1[M%00`[ ` end- |
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Mr. Daniels,
Are you off your medications today? After a few days of nearly perfectly delivered posts and replies, each devoid of your characteristic arrogance, I thought that perhaps you had made the turn and would start behaving. Now this. You are the one that asked the question he "Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)?" If you already knew that the answer was no, as I tried to confirm with the VBA demonstration, then why did you ask? Peter T. Daniels wrote: What did you include there that I didn't already describe? Text direction is set paragraph by paragraph, and cannot be assigned to a paragraph style, and apparently cannot be assigned section by section, either; and line numbers apparently cannot be placed in the right margin, even with right-to-left text. And something has gone very wrong at the end of your message. On Nov 1, 10:48 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, I don't have "support for ... languages" enabled so I didn't test. However this might help you: Change paragraph direction The feature or some of the options described in this Help topic are only available if support for right-to-left (right-to-left: Refers to keyboard settings, document views, user interface objects, and the direction in which text is displayed. Arabic and Hebrew are right-to-left languages.) languages is enabled through Microsoft Office Language Settings. 1.. Place the insertion point in the paragraph that you want to change, or select several paragraphs. 2.. Do one of the following: a.. To have text begin from the left, click Left-to-Right on the Formatting toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT and then SHIFT+F10.). a.. To have text begin from the right, click Right-to-Left on the Formatting toolbar. When you change the paragraph direction, Microsoft Word leaves justified and centered text as it is. In the case of left-aligned or right-aligned text, Word flips the alignment to its opposite. For example, if you have a left-to-right paragraph that is right aligned, such as the date at the top of a letter, clicking Right-to-Left results in a right-to-left paragraph that is left aligned. That being said, and ICBW, based on what appears to be avialabe programatically, Line Numbers can only be positioned in the left margin: Sub ScratchMaco() With ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.LineNumbering .Active = True .CountBy = 5 'DistanceFromText: Returns or sets the distance (in points) between the right edge _ 'of line numbers and the left edge of the document text. Read/write Single. .DistanceFromText = 5 End With End Sub As you should see, DistanceFromText is based on "the left edge of the document text." A negative value creates and error. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Paragraph by paragraph; Text Direction (the button on the Home tab) can't be included in a paragraph style. If there's a way to set Text Direction for a section, I didn't find it in Page Setup. On Nov 1, 12:50 am, Guy Lydig wrote: Is your text direction set to: right-to-left? "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. begin 666 default.aspx?AssetID=ZA060445861033 *2DQ,3/CX M^&6/W;6UM2(B(M7@]5J$U,;&QIJ:FBM1G3EJM/\"E2ID%KO#9BN6J2V\W- MS6QL;-C8V$ETPS)7I-'=\V1W\;3[W;]82GZ#X^/F"+W"9+E5M;6]/@]\'! MP2M5KG5U=41$1#0T-,?7]#HZ.G!P-/] `````````````````````````` M`````````````````````````````````"'Y! ``````+ `````5`!0```9V MP(!P2"P:`X"DLE"IO0YC-*!4RKT"L6YD0F-R_3R,5:*4./KC*"&! 8`E2R M1*H`065NP$0)$\+!Q-W`!D:"7Y^`!\B&!V$"@80B4D.%Q82A$J422 I)9I)G$D4%:%]J$LIUA)6JU*K[!67K.QM;:T1[M%00`[ ` end- -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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"Mister" Maxey,
If you have not discovered by now that your fake "politeness" using "Mr." and "Ms.," where _every other poster to every newsgroup_ uses people's first names or their pseudonyms, is the surest way to set up a regime of distrust, let this so inform you. I asked if there is a way to get line numbers in the right margin, i.e. the starts of lines, of a section of right-to-left text. You state that you have no right-to-left capabilities installed on your system, and you state that you know nothing about right-to-left text. [[I know from your favored epithet "Gedorkian" used to refer to any writing other than the plain English alphabet that you are contemptuous of other cultures, and it may even be that during your naval service, however ineffectual, during the Gulf War, you may have assimilated the contemptuous attitude of your then-superiors toward all things Arab. But that's your problem, not to be transferred to someone who happens to be concerned with the Arabic language.]] Yet you provide a demonstration of what everyone already knows, viz., that line numbers cannot be placed in the right margin of a left-to- right section. And you do it in a way that expects someone to work through your code to try to figure out what it is doing; even though you provide the explanation at the bottom that you get an error when you enter a negative value. What need was there to "show your work" as opposed to either simply reporting that there is no way to do it, or better, since you don't know anything about the problem, to say nothing at all? I understand that you posted in this thread solely with the purpose of "baiting" me, and I regret to say, you succeeded; but since after your standard regime of insults you incorporated a display of your attempt, however much it failed, to find a solution, I chose not to ignore it and to allow you the satisfaction, this time, of having successfully baited me. NB I have made no changes in my way of responding to queries, whether as a result of your constant nagging or of anything else. On Nov 1, 3:04*pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, Are you off your medications today? *After a few days of nearly perfectly delivered posts and replies, each devoid of your characteristic arrogance, I thought that perhaps you had made the turn and would start behaving. *Now this. You are the one that asked the question he "Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)?" If you already knew that the answer was no, as I tried to confirm with the VBA demonstration, then why did you ask? Peter T. Daniels wrote: What did you include there that I didn't already describe? Text direction is set paragraph by paragraph, and cannot be assigned to a paragraph style, and apparently cannot be assigned section by section, either; and line numbers apparently cannot be placed in the right margin, even with right-to-left text. And something has gone very wrong at the end of your message. On Nov 1, 10:48 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, I don't have "support for ... languages" enabled so I didn't test. However this might help you: Change paragraph direction The feature or some of the options described in this Help topic are only available if support for right-to-left (right-to-left: Refers to keyboard settings, document views, user interface objects, and the direction in which text is displayed. Arabic and Hebrew are right-to-left languages.) languages is enabled through Microsoft Office Language Settings. 1.. Place the insertion point in the paragraph that you want to change, or select several paragraphs. 2.. Do one of the following: a.. To have text begin from the left, click Left-to-Right on the Formatting toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT and then SHIFT+F10.). a.. To have text begin from the right, click Right-to-Left on the Formatting toolbar. When you change the paragraph direction, Microsoft Word leaves justified and centered text as it is. In the case of left-aligned or right-aligned text, Word flips the alignment to its opposite. For example, if you have a left-to-right paragraph that is right aligned, such as the date at the top of a letter, clicking Right-to-Left results in a right-to-left paragraph that is left aligned. That being said, and ICBW, based on what appears to be avialabe programatically, Line Numbers can only be positioned in the left margin: Sub ScratchMaco() With ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.LineNumbering .Active = True .CountBy = 5 'DistanceFromText: Returns or sets the distance (in points) between the right edge _ 'of line numbers and the left edge of the document text. Read/write Single. .DistanceFromText = 5 End With End Sub As you should see, DistanceFromText is based on "the left edge of the document text." A negative value creates and error. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Paragraph by paragraph; Text Direction (the button on the Home tab) can't be included in a paragraph style. If there's a way to set Text Direction for a section, I didn't find it in Page Setup. On Nov 1, 12:50 am, Guy Lydig wrote: Is your text direction set to: right-to-left? "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. begin 666 default.aspx?AssetID=ZA060445861033 *2DQ,3/CX M^&6/W;6UM2(B(M7@]5J$U,;&QIJ:FBM1G3EJM/\"E2ID%KO#9BN6J2V\W- MS6QL;-C8V$ETPS)7I-'=\V1W\;3[W;]82GZ#X^/F"+W"9+E5M;6]/@]\'! MP2M5KG5U=41$1#0T-,?7]#HZ.G!P-/] `````````````````````````` M`````````````````````````````````"'Y! ``````+ `````5`!0```9V MP(!P2"P:`X"DLE"IO0YC-*!4RKT"L6YD0F-R_3R,5:*4./KC*"&! 8`E2R M1*H`065NP$0)$\+!Q-W`!D:"7Y^`!\B&!V$"@80B4D.%Q82A$J422 I)9I)G$D4%:%]J$LIUA)6JU*K[!67K.QM;:T1[M%00`[ ` end- -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Mr. Daniels,
I call you Mr.because I prefer it over Peter and unlike you, I don't wish to stoop to addressing you with childish manipulations of other formal titles. Here again you assume to know what others think. The only thing that I am contemptuous of is your arrogance and manner. For someone with such honed and self-proclaimed skills of reading for content vice context and knowing what other people really mean, you certainly missed the mark this time. Despite your twisted belief that I have tried to bait you, I actually tried to help or at the very least answer your basic question. Very, very stupid of me. Yes. In response to Guy's reply: Is your text direction set to: right-to-left? You replied: Paragraph by paragraph; Text Direction (the button on the Home tab) can't be included in a paragraph style. If there's a way to set Text Direction for a section, I didn't find it in Page Setup. You claim now that the answer to your basic quesiton is something already known to everyone, at that point there was no indication that your original question "Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)?" had been answered and you didn't answer Guy's yes or no question with yes or no. Perhaps you did answer it your own way, but not knowing one way or the other, I saw no harm in posting what I had learned about the process regardless if you were already aware of it or not. As for the code and the example. Note the "ICBW." Knowing that I was addressing a master of languages, I went out on limb, and thought you would discern that meant "I could be wrong." When someone "could be wrong" they avoid definative answers like yes or no. Think of it like this: Daniels, I can't say yes or no definatively, but a far as I know line numbering can't be displayed in the right margin regardless of text direction. Like you, I can't find anyway to do it with the UI. I tried doing it programatically using VBA with the following code: Sub ScratchMaco() With ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.LineNumbering .Active = True .CountBy = 5 .DistanceFromText = -600 End With End Sub As you can see there is a property ".DistanceFromText" This property returns or sets the distance (in points) between the right edge of line numbers and the left edge of the document text. If you use a negative number (i.e., attempt to force the numbers into the right margin) an error is generated. There is no gun pointed at your head and I don't "expect" you to do anything, however, AFAIK the code supports the that the answer to your question is "No." I am sorry to learn that I was mistaken concering changes in your posting style. Peter T. Daniels wrote: "Mister" Maxey, If you have not discovered by now that your fake "politeness" using "Mr." and "Ms.," where _every other poster to every newsgroup_ uses people's first names or their pseudonyms, is the surest way to set up a regime of distrust, let this so inform you. I asked if there is a way to get line numbers in the right margin, i.e. the starts of lines, of a section of right-to-left text. You state that you have no right-to-left capabilities installed on your system, and you state that you know nothing about right-to-left text. [[I know from your favored epithet "Gedorkian" used to refer to any writing other than the plain English alphabet that you are contemptuous of other cultures, and it may even be that during your naval service, however ineffectual, during the Gulf War, you may have assimilated the contemptuous attitude of your then-superiors toward all things Arab. But that's your problem, not to be transferred to someone who happens to be concerned with the Arabic language.]] Yet you provide a demonstration of what everyone already knows, viz., that line numbers cannot be placed in the right margin of a left-to- right section. And you do it in a way that expects someone to work through your code to try to figure out what it is doing; even though you provide the explanation at the bottom that you get an error when you enter a negative value. What need was there to "show your work" as opposed to either simply reporting that there is no way to do it, or better, since you don't know anything about the problem, to say nothing at all? I understand that you posted in this thread solely with the purpose of "baiting" me, and I regret to say, you succeeded; but since after your standard regime of insults you incorporated a display of your attempt, however much it failed, to find a solution, I chose not to ignore it and to allow you the satisfaction, this time, of having successfully baited me. NB I have made no changes in my way of responding to queries, whether as a result of your constant nagging or of anything else. On Nov 1, 3:04 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, Are you off your medications today? After a few days of nearly perfectly delivered posts and replies, each devoid of your characteristic arrogance, I thought that perhaps you had made the turn and would start behaving. Now this. You are the one that asked the question he "Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)?" If you already knew that the answer was no, as I tried to confirm with the VBA demonstration, then why did you ask? Peter T. Daniels wrote: What did you include there that I didn't already describe? Text direction is set paragraph by paragraph, and cannot be assigned to a paragraph style, and apparently cannot be assigned section by section, either; and line numbers apparently cannot be placed in the right margin, even with right-to-left text. And something has gone very wrong at the end of your message. On Nov 1, 10:48 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, I don't have "support for ... languages" enabled so I didn't test. However this might help you: Change paragraph direction The feature or some of the options described in this Help topic are only available if support for right-to-left (right-to-left: Refers to keyboard settings, document views, user interface objects, and the direction in which text is displayed. Arabic and Hebrew are right-to-left languages.) languages is enabled through Microsoft Office Language Settings. 1.. Place the insertion point in the paragraph that you want to change, or select several paragraphs. 2.. Do one of the following: a.. To have text begin from the left, click Left-to-Right on the Formatting toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT and then SHIFT+F10.). a.. To have text begin from the right, click Right-to-Left on the Formatting toolbar. When you change the paragraph direction, Microsoft Word leaves justified and centered text as it is. In the case of left-aligned or right-aligned text, Word flips the alignment to its opposite. For example, if you have a left-to-right paragraph that is right aligned, such as the date at the top of a letter, clicking Right-to-Left results in a right-to-left paragraph that is left aligned. That being said, and ICBW, based on what appears to be avialabe programatically, Line Numbers can only be positioned in the left margin: Sub ScratchMaco() With ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.LineNumbering .Active = True .CountBy = 5 'DistanceFromText: Returns or sets the distance (in points) between the right edge _ 'of line numbers and the left edge of the document text. Read/write Single. .DistanceFromText = 5 End With End Sub As you should see, DistanceFromText is based on "the left edge of the document text." A negative value creates and error. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Paragraph by paragraph; Text Direction (the button on the Home tab) can't be included in a paragraph style. If there's a way to set Text Direction for a section, I didn't find it in Page Setup. On Nov 1, 12:50 am, Guy Lydig wrote: Is your text direction set to: right-to-left? "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. begin 666 default.aspx?AssetID=ZA060445861033 *2DQ,3/CX M^&6/W;6UM2(B(M7@]5J$U,;&QIJ:FBM1G3EJM/\"E2ID%KO#9BN6J2V\W- MS6QL;-C8V$ETPS)7I-'=\V1W\;3[W;]82GZ#X^/F"+W"9+E5M;6]/@]\'! MP2M5KG5U=41$1#0T-,?7]#HZ.G!P-/] `````````````````````````` M`````````````````````````````````"'Y! ``````+ `````5`!0```9V MP(!P2"P:`X"DLE"IO0YC-*!4RKT"L6YD0F-R_3R,5:*4./KC*"&! 8`E2R M1*H`065NP$0)$\+!Q-W`!D:"7Y^`!\B&!V$"@80B4D.%Q82A$J422 I)9I)G$D4%:%]J$LIUA)6JU*K[!67K.QM;:T1[M%00`[ ` end- -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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On Nov 1, 5:32*pm, "Greg Maxey"
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On Nov 1, 5:32*pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote: Mr. Daniels, In response to Guy's reply: *Is your text direction set to: right-to-left? You replied: *Paragraph by paragraph; Text Direction (the button on the Home tab) can't be included in a paragraph style. *If there's a way to set Text Direction for a section, I didn't find it in Page Setup. You claim now that the answer to your basic quesiton is something already known to everyone, at that point there was no indication that your original question "Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)?" had been answered and you didn't answer Guy's yes or no question with yes or no. *Perhaps you did answer it your own way, but not knowing one way or the other, I saw no harm in posting what I had learned about the process regardless if you were already aware of it or not. Perhaps you should start following your own advice. (Remember the saying about the beam in your own eye?) You do not have any right-to- left language enabled on your computer; therefore you have no way of knowing anything at all about how Word handles right-to-left scripts; in particular, you are not familiar with the button that appears in the Paragraph group of the Home tab that controls paragraph direction. If you were familiar with that tool. then you would have understood my response to Guy (why, by the way, is he not "Mr. Lydig" to you?), regarding paragraph-by-paragraph direction-setting. As for the code and the example. *Note the "ICBW." *Knowing that I was addressing a master of languages, I went out on limb, and thought you would discern that meant "I could be wrong." *When someone "could be wrong" they avoid definative answers like yes or no. *Think of it like this: Daniels, I can't say yes or no definatively, but a far as I know line numbering can't be displayed in the right margin regardless of text direction. *Like you, I can't find anyway to do it with the UI. *I tried doing it programatically using VBA with the following code: Sub ScratchMaco() With ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.LineNumbering * .Active = True * .CountBy = 5 * .DistanceFromText = -600 End With End Sub As you can see there is a property ".DistanceFromText" *This property returns or sets the distance (in points) between the right edge of line numbers and the left edge of the document text. If you use a negative number (i.e., attempt to force the numbers into the right margin) an error is generated. *There is no gun pointed at your head and I don't "expect" you to do anything, however, AFAIK the code supports the that the answer to your question is "No." Very cute. However, since you know nothing about right-to-left scripts, you may well be unfamiliar with whatever coding might be involved in moving the line numbering; more likely, if someone can explain how to set a Section to right-to-left, then the line numbers would automatically appear on the right. Here's a datum that might prove to be food for thought. When I printed out my two pages of Arabic, the line numbers (which on screen appeared in the left margin, i.e. at the ends of the lines they referred to) appear _within the text_, overprinted about 1/2" in from the _right_ margin. I am sorry to learn that I was mistaken concering changes in your posting style. Peter T. Daniels wrote: "Mister" Maxey, If you have not discovered by now that your fake "politeness" using "Mr." and "Ms.," where _every other poster to every newsgroup_ uses people's first names or their pseudonyms, is the surest way to set up a regime of distrust, let this so inform you. I asked if there is a way to get line numbers in the right margin, i.e. the starts of lines, of a section of right-to-left text. You state that you have no right-to-left capabilities installed on your system, and you state that you know nothing about right-to-left text. [[I know from your favored epithet "Gedorkian" used to refer to any writing other than the plain English alphabet that you are contemptuous of other cultures, and it may even be that during your naval service, however ineffectual, during the Gulf War, you may have assimilated the contemptuous attitude of your then-superiors toward all things Arab. But that's your problem, not to be transferred to someone who happens to be concerned with the Arabic language.]] Yet you provide a demonstration of what everyone already knows, viz., that line numbers cannot be placed in the right margin of a left-to- right section. And you do it in a way that expects someone to work through your code to try to figure out what it is doing; even though you provide the explanation at the bottom that you get an error when you enter a negative value. What need was there to "show your work" as opposed to either simply reporting that there is no way to do it, or better, since you don't know anything about the problem, to say nothing at all? I understand that you posted in this thread solely with the purpose of "baiting" me, and I regret to say, you succeeded; but since after your standard regime of insults you incorporated a display of your attempt, however much it failed, to find a solution, I chose not to ignore it and to allow you the satisfaction, this time, of having successfully baited me. NB I have made no changes in my way of responding to queries, whether as a result of your constant nagging or of anything else. On Nov 1, 3:04 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, Are you off your medications today? After a few days of nearly perfectly delivered posts and replies, each devoid of your characteristic arrogance, I thought that perhaps you had made the turn and would start behaving. Now this. You are the one that asked the question he "Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)?" If you already knew that the answer was no, as I tried to confirm with the VBA demonstration, then why did you ask? Peter T. Daniels wrote: What did you include there that I didn't already describe? Text direction is set paragraph by paragraph, and cannot be assigned to a paragraph style, and apparently cannot be assigned section by section, either; and line numbers apparently cannot be placed in the right margin, even with right-to-left text. And something has gone very wrong at the end of your message. On Nov 1, 10:48 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, I don't have "support for ... languages" enabled so I didn't test. However this might help you: Change paragraph direction The feature or some of the options described in this Help topic are only available if support for right-to-left (right-to-left: Refers to keyboard settings, document views, user interface objects, and the direction in which text is displayed. Arabic and Hebrew are right-to-left languages.) languages is enabled through Microsoft Office Language Settings. 1.. Place the insertion point in the paragraph that you want to change, or select several paragraphs. 2.. Do one of the following: a.. To have text begin from the left, click Left-to-Right on the Formatting toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT and then SHIFT+F10.). a.. To have text begin from the right, click Right-to-Left on the Formatting toolbar. When you change the paragraph direction, Microsoft Word leaves justified and centered text as it is. In the case of left-aligned or right-aligned text, Word flips the alignment to its opposite. For example, if you have a left-to-right paragraph that is right aligned, such as the date at the top of a letter, clicking Right-to-Left results in a right-to-left paragraph that is left aligned. That being said, and ICBW, based on what appears to be avialabe programatically, Line Numbers can only be positioned in the left margin: Sub ScratchMaco() With ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.LineNumbering .Active = True .CountBy = 5 'DistanceFromText: Returns or sets the distance (in points) between the right edge _ 'of line numbers and the left edge of the document text. Read/write Single. .DistanceFromText = 5 End With End Sub As you should see, DistanceFromText is based on "the left edge of the document text." A negative value creates and error. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Paragraph by paragraph; Text Direction (the button on the Home tab) can't be included in a paragraph style. If there's a way to set Text Direction for a section, I didn't find it in Page Setup. On Nov 1, 12:50 am, Guy Lydig wrote: Is your text direction set to: right-to-left? "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. begin 666 default.aspx?AssetID=ZA060445861033 *2DQ,3/CX M^&6/W;6UM2(B(M7@]5J$U,;&QIJ:FBM1G3EJM/\"E2ID%KO#9BN6J2V\W- MS6QL;-C8V$ETPS)7I-'=\V1W\;3[W;]82GZ#X^/F"+W"9+E5M;6]/@]\'! MP2M5KG5U=41$1#0T-,?7]#HZ.G!P-/] `````````````````````````` M`````````````````````````````````"'Y! ``````+ `````5`!0```9V MP(!P2"P:`X"DLE"IO0YC-*!4RKT"L6YD0F-R_3R,5:*4./KC*"&! 8`E2R M1*H`065NP$0)$\+!Q-W`!D:"7Y^`!\B&!V$"@80B4D.%Q82A$J422 I)9I)G$D4%:%]J$LIUA)6JU*K[!67K.QM;:T1[M%00`[ ` end- -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.- -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.- |
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Mr. Daniels,
What is your point? I neither know nor care what ever other user of Usenet prefers to call you. Should all the other lemmings migrate over the cliff and into the sea would you follow or be at odds with? Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Nov 1, 5:32 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, I call you Mr.because I prefer it over Peter And you have never noticed that your "preference" is at odds with every other user of Usenet? -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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Mr. Daniels,
Spin this how you like. I freely admit complete ignorance of right to left scripts plus any and all Word tools assoicated with their use. While I didn't explain that or confess it up front here in elementary language that a moron would understand; I am aware; as are you, that I have confessed it to you previously in our discussion a few weeks ago on transposing characters. I concede the point again. Absent of all malice, it was still a mistake and very, very stupid of me to mention anything about it. So, unless you just like to see yourself rant, there is no need for you to go on and on about it here. Uncle! The reason I refer to Guy (vice Mr. Lydig) is because he isn't a character that I would avoid conversing with on a first name basis. He isn't offensive in the least and he hasn't hurled unprovoked insults at me or others in this group or defended those who have. My only interest in your question was displaying line numbers in the right vice left margin. I would have the same interest if someone else had asked and if the post was completely unrelated to right to left scripts. Unfortunately it was you that asked and you dogged attempts at continuing a fight has only provoke me to look harder for a solution. As for setting right to left on a specific section you might try: Sub ScratchMacro() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub According to the help available it sets the direction of the first section in the active document to right-to-left. In the document that I am working with this has no affect on the text itself, but it does move the line numbers to the right margin. Cheers. Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Nov 1, 5:32 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, In response to Guy's reply: Is your text direction set to: right-to-left? You replied: Paragraph by paragraph; Text Direction (the button on the Home tab) can't be included in a paragraph style. If there's a way to set Text Direction for a section, I didn't find it in Page Setup. You claim now that the answer to your basic quesiton is something already known to everyone, at that point there was no indication that your original question "Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)?" had been answered and you didn't answer Guy's yes or no question with yes or no. Perhaps you did answer it your own way, but not knowing one way or the other, I saw no harm in posting what I had learned about the process regardless if you were already aware of it or not. Perhaps you should start following your own advice. (Remember the saying about the beam in your own eye?) You do not have any right-to- left language enabled on your computer; therefore you have no way of knowing anything at all about how Word handles right-to-left scripts; in particular, you are not familiar with the button that appears in the Paragraph group of the Home tab that controls paragraph direction. If you were familiar with that tool. then you would have understood my response to Guy (why, by the way, is he not "Mr. Lydig" to you?), regarding paragraph-by-paragraph direction-setting. As for the code and the example. Note the "ICBW." Knowing that I was addressing a master of languages, I went out on limb, and thought you would discern that meant "I could be wrong." When someone "could be wrong" they avoid definative answers like yes or no. Think of it like this: Daniels, I can't say yes or no definatively, but a far as I know line numbering can't be displayed in the right margin regardless of text direction. Like you, I can't find anyway to do it with the UI. I tried doing it programatically using VBA with the following code: Sub ScratchMaco() With ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.LineNumbering .Active = True .CountBy = 5 .DistanceFromText = -600 End With End Sub As you can see there is a property ".DistanceFromText" This property returns or sets the distance (in points) between the right edge of line numbers and the left edge of the document text. If you use a negative number (i.e., attempt to force the numbers into the right margin) an error is generated. There is no gun pointed at your head and I don't "expect" you to do anything, however, AFAIK the code supports the that the answer to your question is "No." Very cute. However, since you know nothing about right-to-left scripts, you may well be unfamiliar with whatever coding might be involved in moving the line numbering; more likely, if someone can explain how to set a Section to right-to-left, then the line numbers would automatically appear on the right. Here's a datum that might prove to be food for thought. When I printed out my two pages of Arabic, the line numbers (which on screen appeared in the left margin, i.e. at the ends of the lines they referred to) appear _within the text_, overprinted about 1/2" in from the _right_ margin. I am sorry to learn that I was mistaken concering changes in your posting style. Peter T. Daniels wrote: "Mister" Maxey, If you have not discovered by now that your fake "politeness" using "Mr." and "Ms.," where _every other poster to every newsgroup_ uses people's first names or their pseudonyms, is the surest way to set up a regime of distrust, let this so inform you. I asked if there is a way to get line numbers in the right margin, i.e. the starts of lines, of a section of right-to-left text. You state that you have no right-to-left capabilities installed on your system, and you state that you know nothing about right-to-left text. [[I know from your favored epithet "Gedorkian" used to refer to any writing other than the plain English alphabet that you are contemptuous of other cultures, and it may even be that during your naval service, however ineffectual, during the Gulf War, you may have assimilated the contemptuous attitude of your then-superiors toward all things Arab. But that's your problem, not to be transferred to someone who happens to be concerned with the Arabic language.]] Yet you provide a demonstration of what everyone already knows, viz., that line numbers cannot be placed in the right margin of a left-to- right section. And you do it in a way that expects someone to work through your code to try to figure out what it is doing; even though you provide the explanation at the bottom that you get an error when you enter a negative value. What need was there to "show your work" as opposed to either simply reporting that there is no way to do it, or better, since you don't know anything about the problem, to say nothing at all? I understand that you posted in this thread solely with the purpose of "baiting" me, and I regret to say, you succeeded; but since after your standard regime of insults you incorporated a display of your attempt, however much it failed, to find a solution, I chose not to ignore it and to allow you the satisfaction, this time, of having successfully baited me. NB I have made no changes in my way of responding to queries, whether as a result of your constant nagging or of anything else. On Nov 1, 3:04 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, Are you off your medications today? After a few days of nearly perfectly delivered posts and replies, each devoid of your characteristic arrogance, I thought that perhaps you had made the turn and would start behaving. Now this. You are the one that asked the question he "Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)?" If you already knew that the answer was no, as I tried to confirm with the VBA demonstration, then why did you ask? Peter T. Daniels wrote: What did you include there that I didn't already describe? Text direction is set paragraph by paragraph, and cannot be assigned to a paragraph style, and apparently cannot be assigned section by section, either; and line numbers apparently cannot be placed in the right margin, even with right-to-left text. And something has gone very wrong at the end of your message. On Nov 1, 10:48 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, I don't have "support for ... languages" enabled so I didn't test. However this might help you: Change paragraph direction The feature or some of the options described in this Help topic are only available if support for right-to-left (right-to-left: Refers to keyboard settings, document views, user interface objects, and the direction in which text is displayed. Arabic and Hebrew are right-to-left languages.) languages is enabled through Microsoft Office Language Settings. 1.. Place the insertion point in the paragraph that you want to change, or select several paragraphs. 2.. Do one of the following: a.. To have text begin from the left, click Left-to-Right on the Formatting toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT and then SHIFT+F10.). a.. To have text begin from the right, click Right-to-Left on the Formatting toolbar. When you change the paragraph direction, Microsoft Word leaves justified and centered text as it is. In the case of left-aligned or right-aligned text, Word flips the alignment to its opposite. For example, if you have a left-to-right paragraph that is right aligned, such as the date at the top of a letter, clicking Right-to-Left results in a right-to-left paragraph that is left aligned. That being said, and ICBW, based on what appears to be avialabe programatically, Line Numbers can only be positioned in the left margin: Sub ScratchMaco() With ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.LineNumbering .Active = True .CountBy = 5 'DistanceFromText: Returns or sets the distance (in points) between the right edge _ 'of line numbers and the left edge of the document text. Read/write Single. .DistanceFromText = 5 End With End Sub As you should see, DistanceFromText is based on "the left edge of the document text." A negative value creates and error. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Paragraph by paragraph; Text Direction (the button on the Home tab) can't be included in a paragraph style. If there's a way to set Text Direction for a section, I didn't find it in Page Setup. On Nov 1, 12:50 am, Guy Lydig wrote: Is your text direction set to: right-to-left? "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. begin 666 default.aspx?AssetID=ZA060445861033 *2DQ,3/CX M^&6/W;6UM2(B(M7@]5J$U,;&QIJ:FBM1G3EJM/\"E2ID%KO#9BN6J2V\W- MS6QL;-C8V$ETPS)7I-'=\V1W\;3[W;]82GZ#X^/F"+W"9+E5M;6]/@]\'! MP2M5KG5U=41$1#0T-,?7]#HZ.G!P-/] `````````````````````````` M`````````````````````````````````"'Y! ``````+ `````5`!0```9V MP(!P2"P:`X"DLE"IO0YC-*!4RKT"L6YD0F-R_3R,5:*4./KC*"&! 8`E2R M1*H`065NP$0)$\+!Q-W`!D:"7Y^`!\B&!V$"@80B4D.%Q82A$J422 I)9I)G$D4%:%]J$LIUA)6JU*K[!67K.QM;:T1[M%00`[ ` end- -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.- -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.- -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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Yes.
If you have an appropriate language enabled (e.g., Arabic (Iraq)) then you can use a macro to set specific section direction. For example the following macro will display line numbers in the right margin in secton 1. Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub Note: If you do not have an appropriate language enabled (I defer to Mr. Daniels' expertise on what other languages may or may not be appropriate) or subsequently disable the language then this setting will suppress the display of line numbering. To restore them you would need to set the direction back to left to right using: Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionLtr End Sub Peter T. Daniels wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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Mr. Daniels,
Yet you provide a demonstration of what everyone already knows, viz., that line numbers cannot be placed in the right margin of a left-to- right section. Wrong again! Line numbers "can" be placed in the right margin of a left-to- right section. What everyone else reading this tortured thread now knows is that while you were ranting and snapping at the hand trying to assist you, a solution was found. So for you I guess it is back under the bridge for another supper on crow sandwich Peter T. Daniels wrote: "Mister" Maxey, If you have not discovered by now that your fake "politeness" using "Mr." and "Ms.," where _every other poster to every newsgroup_ uses people's first names or their pseudonyms, is the surest way to set up a regime of distrust, let this so inform you. I asked if there is a way to get line numbers in the right margin, i.e. the starts of lines, of a section of right-to-left text. You state that you have no right-to-left capabilities installed on your system, and you state that you know nothing about right-to-left text. [[I know from your favored epithet "Gedorkian" used to refer to any writing other than the plain English alphabet that you are contemptuous of other cultures, and it may even be that during your naval service, however ineffectual, during the Gulf War, you may have assimilated the contemptuous attitude of your then-superiors toward all things Arab. But that's your problem, not to be transferred to someone who happens to be concerned with the Arabic language.]] Yet you provide a demonstration of what everyone already knows, viz., that line numbers cannot be placed in the right margin of a left-to- right section. And you do it in a way that expects someone to work through your code to try to figure out what it is doing; even though you provide the explanation at the bottom that you get an error when you enter a negative value. What need was there to "show your work" as opposed to either simply reporting that there is no way to do it, or better, since you don't know anything about the problem, to say nothing at all? I understand that you posted in this thread solely with the purpose of "baiting" me, and I regret to say, you succeeded; but since after your standard regime of insults you incorporated a display of your attempt, however much it failed, to find a solution, I chose not to ignore it and to allow you the satisfaction, this time, of having successfully baited me. NB I have made no changes in my way of responding to queries, whether as a result of your constant nagging or of anything else. On Nov 1, 3:04 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, Are you off your medications today? After a few days of nearly perfectly delivered posts and replies, each devoid of your characteristic arrogance, I thought that perhaps you had made the turn and would start behaving. Now this. You are the one that asked the question he "Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)?" If you already knew that the answer was no, as I tried to confirm with the VBA demonstration, then why did you ask? Peter T. Daniels wrote: What did you include there that I didn't already describe? Text direction is set paragraph by paragraph, and cannot be assigned to a paragraph style, and apparently cannot be assigned section by section, either; and line numbers apparently cannot be placed in the right margin, even with right-to-left text. And something has gone very wrong at the end of your message. On Nov 1, 10:48 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, I don't have "support for ... languages" enabled so I didn't test. However this might help you: Change paragraph direction The feature or some of the options described in this Help topic are only available if support for right-to-left (right-to-left: Refers to keyboard settings, document views, user interface objects, and the direction in which text is displayed. Arabic and Hebrew are right-to-left languages.) languages is enabled through Microsoft Office Language Settings. 1.. Place the insertion point in the paragraph that you want to change, or select several paragraphs. 2.. Do one of the following: a.. To have text begin from the left, click Left-to-Right on the Formatting toolbar (toolbar: A bar with buttons and options that you use to carry out commands. To display a toolbar, press ALT and then SHIFT+F10.). a.. To have text begin from the right, click Right-to-Left on the Formatting toolbar. When you change the paragraph direction, Microsoft Word leaves justified and centered text as it is. In the case of left-aligned or right-aligned text, Word flips the alignment to its opposite. For example, if you have a left-to-right paragraph that is right aligned, such as the date at the top of a letter, clicking Right-to-Left results in a right-to-left paragraph that is left aligned. That being said, and ICBW, based on what appears to be avialabe programatically, Line Numbers can only be positioned in the left margin: Sub ScratchMaco() With ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.LineNumbering .Active = True .CountBy = 5 'DistanceFromText: Returns or sets the distance (in points) between the right edge _ 'of line numbers and the left edge of the document text. Read/write Single. .DistanceFromText = 5 End With End Sub As you should see, DistanceFromText is based on "the left edge of the document text." A negative value creates and error. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Paragraph by paragraph; Text Direction (the button on the Home tab) can't be included in a paragraph style. If there's a way to set Text Direction for a section, I didn't find it in Page Setup. On Nov 1, 12:50 am, Guy Lydig wrote: Is your text direction set to: right-to-left? "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. begin 666 default.aspx?AssetID=ZA060445861033 *2DQ,3/CX M^&6/W;6UM2(B(M7@]5J$U,;&QIJ:FBM1G3EJM/\"E2ID%KO#9BN6J2V\W- MS6QL;-C8V$ETPS)7I-'=\V1W\;3[W;]82GZ#X^/F"+W"9+E5M;6]/@]\'! 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On Nov 1, 6:33*pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote: Mr. *Daniels, What is your point? *I neither know nor care what ever other user of Usenet prefers to call you. "Neither no nor care" what other people do is the very definition of sociopath. It has nothing to do with what people call _me_ specifically. It has to do with the way people address each other in this medium throughout the world. Should all the other lemmings migrate over the cliff and into the sea would you follow or be at odds with? If I were a lemming, and if that behavior were actually what lemmings do (it isn't), then it would be in my nature to do so as well. Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Nov 1, 5:32 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, I call you Mr.because I prefer it over Peter And you have never noticed that your "preference" is at odds with every other user of Usenet? -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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Stone the crows (are there any left)! He is back.
Back to show once again that when he really has not point and when he learns that he is wrong on the central point (that he is a dilettante and an arrogant one at that) he will find another sore to pick. "Should" Mr. Daniels. Not "when." Yes it is a myth. Cheers. Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Nov 1, 6:33 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, What is your point? I neither know nor care what ever other user of Usenet prefers to call you. "Neither no nor care" what other people do is the very definition of sociopath. It has nothing to do with what people call _me_ specifically. It has to do with the way people address each other in this medium throughout the world. Should all the other lemmings migrate over the cliff and into the sea would you follow or be at odds with? If I were a lemming, and if that behavior were actually what lemmings do (it isn't), then it would be in my nature to do so as well. Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Nov 1, 5:32 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, I call you Mr.because I prefer it over Peter And you have never noticed that your "preference" is at odds with every other user of Usenet? -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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As usual, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
The existence of a "SectionDirection" command within PageSetup prompted me to look more closely for the option. In order to make a section read right-to-left, go to Page Setup Layout second dropdown at the top. No macro needed. However, though line numbers are checked, they do not display. (In fact, they blinked off when I Ok'd the Page Setup Layout change, though the Line Numbers box was still checked.) So it appears _still_ to be impossible to get line numbers in the right margin with right-to- left text. On Nov 1, 7:55*pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Yes. If you have an appropriate language enabled (e.g., Arabic (Iraq)) then you can use a macro to set specific section direction. *For example the following macro will display line numbers in the right margin in secton 1.. Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub Note: *If you do not have an appropriate language enabled (I defer to Mr. |
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BTW,
Being unlike you, who is constantly groussing about selective advanced Word features that you don't understand or that you don't wish to pursue yourself, I enabled an Arabic language. After doing so the the Page Setup dialog that appears when you click the "dialog box launcher" in the bottom right corner of the Page Setup group or when you click "Line NumbersLine Numbering Options..." plainly shows a Section direction field with choices Right-to-left and Left-to-right. If it had been a snake it would have bitten you. Must something blinding about blind arrogance after all. Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Nov 1, 6:33 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, What is your point? I neither know nor care what ever other user of Usenet prefers to call you. "Neither no nor care" what other people do is the very definition of sociopath. It has nothing to do with what people call _me_ specifically. It has to do with the way people address each other in this medium throughout the world. Should all the other lemmings migrate over the cliff and into the sea would you follow or be at odds with? If I were a lemming, and if that behavior were actually what lemmings do (it isn't), then it would be in my nature to do so as well. Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Nov 1, 5:32 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, I call you Mr.because I prefer it over Peter And you have never noticed that your "preference" is at odds with every other user of Usenet? -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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Mr. Daniels,
You were the one that posted here claiming it didn't exist. Where you blinded by arrogance? I looked before enabling an Arabic language. Hopefully my self admitted ignorance of the world's languages wiil excuse the oversight. Would you like for me to post a picture for the whole world to see or send you an example? Peter T. Daniels wrote: As usual, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail The existence of a "SectionDirection" command within PageSetup prompted me to look more closely for the option. In order to make a section read right-to-left, go to Page Setup Layout second dropdown at the top. No macro needed. However, though line numbers are checked, they do not display. (In fact, they blinked off when I Ok'd the Page Setup Layout change, though the Line Numbers box was still checked.) So it appears _still_ to be impossible to get line numbers in the right margin with right-to- left text. On Nov 1, 7:55 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Yes. If you have an appropriate language enabled (e.g., Arabic (Iraq)) then you can use a macro to set specific section direction. For example the following macro will display line numbers in the right margin in secton 1. Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub Note: If you do not have an appropriate language enabled (I defer to Mr. Daniels' expertise on what other languages may or may not be appropriate) or subsequently disable the language then this setting will suppress the display of line numbering. To restore them you would need to set the direction back to left to right using: Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionLtr End Sub Peter T. Daniels wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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Ask no quarter, give none.
For a picture of the impossible see: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Daniels'_ Folly.png For the document pictured see: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Mr_Daniels'_Arrogant_Folly.zip Peter T. Daniels wrote: As usual, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail The existence of a "SectionDirection" command within PageSetup prompted me to look more closely for the option. In order to make a section read right-to-left, go to Page Setup Layout second dropdown at the top. No macro needed. However, though line numbers are checked, they do not display. (In fact, they blinked off when I Ok'd the Page Setup Layout change, though the Line Numbers box was still checked.) So it appears _still_ to be impossible to get line numbers in the right margin with right-to- left text. On Nov 1, 7:55 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Yes. If you have an appropriate language enabled (e.g., Arabic (Iraq)) then you can use a macro to set specific section direction. For example the following macro will display line numbers in the right margin in secton 1. Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub Note: If you do not have an appropriate language enabled (I defer to Mr. Daniels' expertise on what other languages may or may not be appropriate) or subsequently disable the language then this setting will suppress the display of line numbering. To restore them you would need to set the direction back to left to right using: Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionLtr End Sub Peter T. Daniels wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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Ask no quarter, give none.
For a picture of the impossible see: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Daniels'_Folly.png For the document pictured see: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Mr_Daniels'_Arrogant_Folly.zip Peter T. Daniels wrote: As usual, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail The existence of a "SectionDirection" command within PageSetup prompted me to look more closely for the option. In order to make a section read right-to-left, go to Page Setup Layout second dropdown at the top. No macro needed. However, though line numbers are checked, they do not display. (In fact, they blinked off when I Ok'd the Page Setup Layout change, though the Line Numbers box was still checked.) So it appears _still_ to be impossible to get line numbers in the right margin with right-to- left text. On Nov 1, 7:55 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Yes. If you have an appropriate language enabled (e.g., Arabic (Iraq)) then you can use a macro to set specific section direction. For example the following macro will display line numbers in the right margin in secton 1. Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub Note: If you do not have an appropriate language enabled (I defer to Mr. Daniels' expertise on what other languages may or may not be appropriate) or subsequently disable the language then this setting will suppress the display of line numbering. To restore them you would need to set the direction back to left to right using: Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionLtr End Sub Peter T. Daniels wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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In the middle of the night, Sociopath Maxey began whining to the
newsgroup that I wasn't acknowledging his messages, so he emailed me a document that does indeed contain Arabic text, in a right-to-left section (apparently he failed to read the posting to which he appended this response), that does indeed contain line numbering in the right margin. Extending the sample text to more than 4 lines, I found that it also works with counting every fifth line. This does not explain, however, why the line numbering does not appear on screen at all in my actual file within a right-to-left section containing actual Arabic text, or why when the page is printed, the line numbers do appear -- printed over the text -- inset from the right margin. I experimented with each of these parameters: changing the font from TNR to the one I was using ("Arabic Typesetting"); line numbering in This section only; Next page section break instead of Continuous; narrowing the margins to match those in my document. In each case, line numbering appears properly in Greg's document and not in my document. His document includes the macro for changing section direction, but the macro does not appear to contain a line number command. On Nov 2, 1:05*am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, You were the one that posted here claiming it didn't exist. *Where you blinded by arrogance? I looked before enabling an Arabic language. *Hopefully my self admitted ignorance of the world's languages wiil excuse the oversight. Would you like for me to post a picture for the whole world to see or send you an example? Peter T. Daniels wrote: As usual, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail The existence of a "SectionDirection" command within PageSetup prompted me to look more closely for the option. In order to make a section read right-to-left, go to Page Setup Layout second dropdown at the top. No macro needed. However, though line numbers are checked, they do not display. (In fact, they blinked off when I Ok'd the Page Setup Layout change, though the Line Numbers box was still checked.) So it appears _still_ to be impossible to get line numbers in the right margin with right-to- left text. On Nov 1, 7:55 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Yes. If you have an appropriate language enabled (e.g., Arabic (Iraq)) then you can use a macro to set specific section direction. For example the following macro will display line numbers in the right margin in secton 1. Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub Note: If you do not have an appropriate language enabled (I defer to Mr. Daniels' expertise on what other languages may or may not be appropriate) or subsequently disable the language then this setting will suppress the display of line numbering. To restore them you would need to set the direction back to left to right using: Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionLtr End Sub Peter T. Daniels wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.- |
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Mr. Daniels,
Lacking your skills in reading for content vice context and not knowing what people really mean by what is unsaid, is all this gibberish an admission that what you declared as impossible last night you now realize is possible today? A hammer for setting linenumbering programmatically was handed to you in my first response to this tortured thread. Being something over your head and unworthy of your attention you chose to treat it with scorn rather than as a useful tool. Now you grouse about its absence in the Mr. Daniels' Arrogant Folly document. Which is it Mr. Daniels? We both know that with the discovery of the Section direction option in PageLayout (You know the option that you couldn't find. That had it been a snake it would have bitten you) that a macro isn't required. Still, to temper your fresh round of grumbling here it is: Sub DanielsWantsAHammer() With ActiveDocument With .Sections(1) 'This is the left to right Mr Daniels' Arrogant Folly text With .PageSetup .SectionDirection = wdSectionDirectionLtr With .LineNumbering .Active = True .StartingNumber = 1 'or whatever .CountBy = 1 'or whatever .RestartMode = wdRestartSection 'or whatever .DistanceFromText = 12 'or whatever End With End With End With With .Sections(2) 'This is the Arabic text With .PageSetup .SectionDirection = wdSectionDirectionRtl With .LineNumbering .Active = True .StartingNumber = 1 'or whatever .CountBy = 1 'or whatever .RestartMode = wdRestartSection 'or whatever .DistanceFromText = 12 'or whatever End With End With End With End With End Sub If you can curb your arrogance and rants long enough to send me your troublesome file, I would be delighted to try to find a solution for you. NB that that I said "try." You being a dilletante and all there is no telling what sort of disaster you have created. How was it that you put it? Oh yes. That's your problem, not to be transferred to others who happen to have more skill working with Word. Cheers. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... In the middle of the night, Sociopath Maxey began whining to the newsgroup that I wasn't acknowledging his messages, so he emailed me a document that does indeed contain Arabic text, in a right-to-left section (apparently he failed to read the posting to which he appended this response), that does indeed contain line numbering in the right margin. Extending the sample text to more than 4 lines, I found that it also works with counting every fifth line. This does not explain, however, why the line numbering does not appear on screen at all in my actual file within a right-to-left section containing actual Arabic text, or why when the page is printed, the line numbers do appear -- printed over the text -- inset from the right margin. I experimented with each of these parameters: changing the font from TNR to the one I was using ("Arabic Typesetting"); line numbering in This section only; Next page section break instead of Continuous; narrowing the margins to match those in my document. In each case, line numbering appears properly in Greg's document and not in my document. His document includes the macro for changing section direction, but the macro does not appear to contain a line number command. On Nov 2, 1:05 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, You were the one that posted here claiming it didn't exist. Where you blinded by arrogance? I looked before enabling an Arabic language. Hopefully my self admitted ignorance of the world's languages wiil excuse the oversight. Would you like for me to post a picture for the whole world to see or send you an example? Peter T. Daniels wrote: As usual, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail The existence of a "SectionDirection" command within PageSetup prompted me to look more closely for the option. In order to make a section read right-to-left, go to Page Setup Layout second dropdown at the top. No macro needed. However, though line numbers are checked, they do not display. (In fact, they blinked off when I Ok'd the Page Setup Layout change, though the Line Numbers box was still checked.) So it appears _still_ to be impossible to get line numbers in the right margin with right-to- left text. On Nov 1, 7:55 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Yes. If you have an appropriate language enabled (e.g., Arabic (Iraq)) then you can use a macro to set specific section direction. For example the following macro will display line numbers in the right margin in secton 1. Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub Note: If you do not have an appropriate language enabled (I defer to Mr. Daniels' expertise on what other languages may or may not be appropriate) or subsequently disable the language then this setting will suppress the display of line numbering. To restore them you would need to set the direction back to left to right using: Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionLtr End Sub Peter T. Daniels wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.- |
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On Nov 2, 12:23*pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote: Mr. Daniels, Lacking your skills in reading for content vice context and not knowing what people really mean by what is unsaid, is all this gibberish an admission that what you declared as impossible last night you now realize is possible today? A hammer for setting linenumbering programmatically was handed to you in my I saw a hammer for setting Section right-to-left, but not a hammer for setting line numbering. I also do not see such a hammer in the macro included in the .docm in question. An explanation of why a command included in a macro might work while the same command accessed via the GUI might not would be most interesting. first response to this tortured thread. *Being something over your head and unworthy of your attention you chose to treat it with scorn rather than as a useful tool. *Now you grouse about its absence in the Mr. Daniels' Arrogant Folly document. *Which is it Mr. Daniels? *We both know that with the discovery of the Section direction option in PageLayout (You know the option that you couldn't find. *That had it been a snake it would have bitten you) that a macro isn't required. *Still, to temper your fresh round of grumbling here it is: Sub DanielsWantsAHammer() With ActiveDocument * With .Sections(1) *'This is the left to right Mr Daniels' Arrogant Folly text * * With .PageSetup * * * .SectionDirection = wdSectionDirectionLtr * * * With .LineNumbering * * * * .Active = True * * * * .StartingNumber = 1 'or whatever * * * * .CountBy = 1 'or whatever * * * * .RestartMode = wdRestartSection 'or whatever * * * * .DistanceFromText = 12 'or whatever * * * End With * * End With * End With * With .Sections(2) 'This is the Arabic text * * With .PageSetup * * * .SectionDirection = wdSectionDirectionRtl * * * With .LineNumbering * * * * .Active = True * * * * .StartingNumber = 1 'or whatever * * * * .CountBy = 1 'or whatever * * * * .RestartMode = wdRestartSection 'or whatever * * * * .DistanceFromText = 12 'or whatever * * * End With * * End With * End With End With End Sub If you can curb your arrogance and rants long enough to send me your troublesome file, I would be delighted to try to find a solution for you. NB that that I said "try." *You being a dilletante and all there is no telling what sort of disaster you have created. *How was it that you put it? Oh yes. *That's your problem, not to be transferred to others who happen to have more skill working with Word. Cheers. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... In the middle of the night, Sociopath Maxey began whining to the newsgroup that I wasn't acknowledging his messages, so he emailed me a document that does indeed contain Arabic text, in a right-to-left section (apparently he failed to read the posting to which he appended this response), that does indeed contain line numbering in the right margin. Extending the sample text to more than 4 lines, I found that it also works with counting every fifth line. This does not explain, however, why the line numbering does not appear on screen at all in my actual file within a right-to-left section containing actual Arabic text, or why when the page is printed, the line numbers do appear -- printed over the text -- inset from the right margin. I experimented with each of these parameters: changing the font from TNR to the one I was using ("Arabic Typesetting"); line numbering in This section only; Next page section break instead of Continuous; narrowing the margins to match those in my document. In each case, line numbering appears properly in Greg's document and not in my document. His document includes the macro for changing section direction, but the macro does not appear to contain a line number command. On Nov 2, 1:05 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, You were the one that posted here claiming it didn't exist. Where you blinded by arrogance? I looked before enabling an Arabic language. Hopefully my self admitted ignorance of the world's languages wiil excuse the oversight. Would you like for me to post a picture for the whole world to see or send you an example? Peter T. Daniels wrote: As usual, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail The existence of a "SectionDirection" command within PageSetup prompted me to look more closely for the option. In order to make a section read right-to-left, go to Page Setup Layout second dropdown at the top. No macro needed. However, though line numbers are checked, they do not display. (In fact, they blinked off when I Ok'd the Page Setup Layout change, though the Line Numbers box was still checked.) So it appears _still_ to be impossible to get line numbers in the right margin with right-to- left text. On Nov 1, 7:55 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Yes. If you have an appropriate language enabled (e.g., Arabic (Iraq)) then you can use a macro to set specific section direction. For example the following macro will display line numbers in the right margin in secton 1. Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub Note: If you do not have an appropriate language enabled (I defer to Mr. Daniels' expertise on what other languages may or may not be appropriate) or subsequently disable the language then this setting will suppress the display of line numbering. To restore them you would need to set the direction back to left to right using: Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionLtr End Sub Peter T. Daniels wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.-- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Greg discovered (by copying it section by section without the section
breaks or final paragraph mark) that my document was just a little bit corrupt. Everything now works just as expected. On Nov 2, 1:06*pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Nov 2, 12:23*pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, Lacking your skills in reading for content vice context and not knowing what people really mean by what is unsaid, is all this gibberish an admission that what you declared as impossible last night you now realize is possible today? A hammer for setting linenumbering programmatically was handed to you in my I saw a hammer for setting Section right-to-left, but not a hammer for setting line numbering. I also do not see such a hammer in the macro included in the .docm in question. An explanation of why a command included in a macro might work while the same command accessed via the GUI might not would be most interesting. first response to this tortured thread. *Being something over your head and unworthy of your attention you chose to treat it with scorn rather than as a useful tool. *Now you grouse about its absence in the Mr. Daniels' Arrogant Folly document. *Which is it Mr. Daniels? *We both know that with the discovery of the Section direction option in PageLayout (You know the option that you couldn't find. *That had it been a snake it would have bitten you) that a macro isn't required. *Still, to temper your fresh round of grumbling here it is: Sub DanielsWantsAHammer() With ActiveDocument * With .Sections(1) *'This is the left to right Mr Daniels' Arrogant Folly text * * With .PageSetup * * * .SectionDirection = wdSectionDirectionLtr * * * With .LineNumbering * * * * .Active = True * * * * .StartingNumber = 1 'or whatever * * * * .CountBy = 1 'or whatever * * * * .RestartMode = wdRestartSection 'or whatever * * * * .DistanceFromText = 12 'or whatever * * * End With * * End With * End With * With .Sections(2) 'This is the Arabic text * * With .PageSetup * * * .SectionDirection = wdSectionDirectionRtl * * * With .LineNumbering * * * * .Active = True * * * * .StartingNumber = 1 'or whatever * * * * .CountBy = 1 'or whatever * * * * .RestartMode = wdRestartSection 'or whatever * * * * .DistanceFromText = 12 'or whatever * * * End With * * End With * End With End With End Sub If you can curb your arrogance and rants long enough to send me your troublesome file, I would be delighted to try to find a solution for you. NB that that I said "try." *You being a dilletante and all there is no telling what sort of disaster you have created. *How was it that you put it? Oh yes. *That's your problem, not to be transferred to others who happen to have more skill working with Word. Cheers. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... In the middle of the night, Sociopath Maxey began whining to the newsgroup that I wasn't acknowledging his messages, so he emailed me a document that does indeed contain Arabic text, in a right-to-left section (apparently he failed to read the posting to which he appended this response), that does indeed contain line numbering in the right margin. Extending the sample text to more than 4 lines, I found that it also works with counting every fifth line. This does not explain, however, why the line numbering does not appear on screen at all in my actual file within a right-to-left section containing actual Arabic text, or why when the page is printed, the line numbers do appear -- printed over the text -- inset from the right margin. I experimented with each of these parameters: changing the font from TNR to the one I was using ("Arabic Typesetting"); line numbering in This section only; Next page section break instead of Continuous; narrowing the margins to match those in my document. In each case, line numbering appears properly in Greg's document and not in my document. His document includes the macro for changing section direction, but the macro does not appear to contain a line number command. On Nov 2, 1:05 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, You were the one that posted here claiming it didn't exist. Where you blinded by arrogance? I looked before enabling an Arabic language. Hopefully my self admitted ignorance of the world's languages wiil excuse the oversight. Would you like for me to post a picture for the whole world to see or send you an example? Peter T. Daniels wrote: As usual, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail The existence of a "SectionDirection" command within PageSetup prompted me to look more closely for the option. In order to make a section read right-to-left, go to Page Setup Layout second dropdown at the top. No macro needed. However, though line numbers are checked, they do not display. (In fact, they blinked off when I Ok'd the Page Setup Layout change, though the Line Numbers box was still checked.) So it appears _still_ to be impossible to get line numbers in the right margin with right-to- left text. On Nov 1, 7:55 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Yes. If you have an appropriate language enabled (e.g., Arabic (Iraq)) then you can use a macro to set specific section direction. For example the following macro will display line numbers in the right margin in secton 1. Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub Note: If you do not have an appropriate language enabled (I defer to Mr. Daniels' expertise on what other languages may or may not be appropriate) or subsequently disable the language then this setting will suppress the display of line numbering. To restore them you would need to set the direction back to left to right using: Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionLtr End Sub Peter T. Daniels wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.-- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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What a guy that Greg Maxey is! After all the abuse you've heaped on him over
the months and years, he still has the kindness in his heart to find a solution to your problem. Do I hear a thank you? (A little bit corrupt? Is that like a little bit pregnant? g) -- Cheers! Gordon Bentley-Mix Word MVP "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... Greg discovered (by copying it section by section without the section breaks or final paragraph mark) that my document was just a little bit corrupt. Everything now works just as expected. On Nov 2, 1:06 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Nov 2, 12:23 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, Lacking your skills in reading for content vice context and not knowing what people really mean by what is unsaid, is all this gibberish an admission that what you declared as impossible last night you now realize is possible today? A hammer for setting linenumbering programmatically was handed to you in my I saw a hammer for setting Section right-to-left, but not a hammer for setting line numbering. I also do not see such a hammer in the macro included in the .docm in question. An explanation of why a command included in a macro might work while the same command accessed via the GUI might not would be most interesting. first response to this tortured thread. Being something over your head and unworthy of your attention you chose to treat it with scorn rather than as a useful tool. Now you grouse about its absence in the Mr. Daniels' Arrogant Folly document. Which is it Mr. Daniels? We both know that with the discovery of the Section direction option in PageLayout (You know the option that you couldn't find. That had it been a snake it would have bitten you) that a macro isn't required. Still, to temper your fresh round of grumbling here it is: Sub DanielsWantsAHammer() With ActiveDocument With .Sections(1) 'This is the left to right Mr Daniels' Arrogant Folly text With .PageSetup .SectionDirection = wdSectionDirectionLtr With .LineNumbering .Active = True .StartingNumber = 1 'or whatever .CountBy = 1 'or whatever .RestartMode = wdRestartSection 'or whatever .DistanceFromText = 12 'or whatever End With End With End With With .Sections(2) 'This is the Arabic text With .PageSetup .SectionDirection = wdSectionDirectionRtl With .LineNumbering .Active = True .StartingNumber = 1 'or whatever .CountBy = 1 'or whatever .RestartMode = wdRestartSection 'or whatever .DistanceFromText = 12 'or whatever End With End With End With End With End Sub If you can curb your arrogance and rants long enough to send me your troublesome file, I would be delighted to try to find a solution for you. NB that that I said "try." You being a dilletante and all there is no telling what sort of disaster you have created. How was it that you put it? Oh yes. That's your problem, not to be transferred to others who happen to have more skill working with Word. Cheers. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... In the middle of the night, Sociopath Maxey began whining to the newsgroup that I wasn't acknowledging his messages, so he emailed me a document that does indeed contain Arabic text, in a right-to-left section (apparently he failed to read the posting to which he appended this response), that does indeed contain line numbering in the right margin. Extending the sample text to more than 4 lines, I found that it also works with counting every fifth line. This does not explain, however, why the line numbering does not appear on screen at all in my actual file within a right-to-left section containing actual Arabic text, or why when the page is printed, the line numbers do appear -- printed over the text -- inset from the right margin. I experimented with each of these parameters: changing the font from TNR to the one I was using ("Arabic Typesetting"); line numbering in This section only; Next page section break instead of Continuous; narrowing the margins to match those in my document. In each case, line numbering appears properly in Greg's document and not in my document. His document includes the macro for changing section direction, but the macro does not appear to contain a line number command. On Nov 2, 1:05 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, You were the one that posted here claiming it didn't exist. Where you blinded by arrogance? I looked before enabling an Arabic language. Hopefully my self admitted ignorance of the world's languages wiil excuse the oversight. Would you like for me to post a picture for the whole world to see or send you an example? Peter T. Daniels wrote: As usual, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail The existence of a "SectionDirection" command within PageSetup prompted me to look more closely for the option. In order to make a section read right-to-left, go to Page Setup Layout second dropdown at the top. No macro needed. However, though line numbers are checked, they do not display. (In fact, they blinked off when I Ok'd the Page Setup Layout change, though the Line Numbers box was still checked.) So it appears _still_ to be impossible to get line numbers in the right margin with right-to- left text. On Nov 1, 7:55 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Yes. If you have an appropriate language enabled (e.g., Arabic (Iraq)) then you can use a macro to set specific section direction. For example the following macro will display line numbers in the right margin in secton 1. Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub Note: If you do not have an appropriate language enabled (I defer to Mr. Daniels' expertise on what other languages may or may not be appropriate) or subsequently disable the language then this setting will suppress the display of line numbering. To restore them you would need to set the direction back to left to right using: Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionLtr End Sub Peter T. Daniels wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.-- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Why would I thank _you_ for what he did?
On Nov 3, 2:18*am, "Gordon Bentley-Mix" wrote: What a guy that Greg Maxey is! After all the abuse you've heaped on him over the months and years, he still has the kindness in his heart to find a solution to your problem. Do I hear a thank you? (A little bit corrupt? Is that like a little bit pregnant? g) -- Cheers! Gordon Bentley-Mix Word MVP "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... Greg discovered (by copying it section by section without the section breaks or final paragraph mark) that my document was just a little bit corrupt. Everything now works just as expected. On Nov 2, 1:06 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Nov 2, 12:23 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, Lacking your skills in reading for content vice context and not knowing what people really mean by what is unsaid, is all this gibberish an admission that what you declared as impossible last night you now realize is possible today? A hammer for setting linenumbering programmatically was handed to you in my I saw a hammer for setting Section right-to-left, but not a hammer for setting line numbering. I also do not see such a hammer in the macro included in the .docm in question. An explanation of why a command included in a macro might work while the same command accessed via the GUI might not would be most interesting. first response to this tortured thread. *Being something over your head and unworthy of your attention you chose to treat it with scorn rather than as a useful tool. *Now you grouse about its absence in the Mr. Daniels' Arrogant Folly document. *Which is it Mr. Daniels? *We both know that with the discovery of the Section direction option in PageLayout (You know the option that you couldn't find. *That had it been a snake it would have bitten you) that a macro isn't required. *Still, to temper your fresh round of grumbling here it is: Sub DanielsWantsAHammer() With ActiveDocument * With .Sections(1) *'This is the left to right Mr Daniels' Arrogant Folly text * * With .PageSetup * * * .SectionDirection = wdSectionDirectionLtr * * * With .LineNumbering * * * * .Active = True * * * * .StartingNumber = 1 'or whatever * * * * .CountBy = 1 'or whatever * * * * .RestartMode = wdRestartSection 'or whatever * * * * .DistanceFromText = 12 'or whatever * * * End With * * End With * End With * With .Sections(2) 'This is the Arabic text * * With .PageSetup * * * .SectionDirection = wdSectionDirectionRtl * * * With .LineNumbering * * * * .Active = True * * * * .StartingNumber = 1 'or whatever * * * * .CountBy = 1 'or whatever * * * * .RestartMode = wdRestartSection 'or whatever * * * * .DistanceFromText = 12 'or whatever * * * End With * * End With * End With End With End Sub If you can curb your arrogance and rants long enough to send me your troublesome file, I would be delighted to try to find a solution for you. NB that that I said "try." *You being a dilletante and all there is no telling what sort of disaster you have created. *How was it that you put it? Oh yes. *That's your problem, not to be transferred to others who happen to have more skill working with Word. Cheers. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... In the middle of the night, Sociopath Maxey began whining to the newsgroup that I wasn't acknowledging his messages, so he emailed me a document that does indeed contain Arabic text, in a right-to-left section (apparently he failed to read the posting to which he appended this response), that does indeed contain line numbering in the right margin. Extending the sample text to more than 4 lines, I found that it also works with counting every fifth line. This does not explain, however, why the line numbering does not appear on screen at all in my actual file within a right-to-left section containing actual Arabic text, or why when the page is printed, the line numbers do appear -- printed over the text -- inset from the right margin. I experimented with each of these parameters: changing the font from TNR to the one I was using ("Arabic Typesetting"); line numbering in This section only; Next page section break instead of Continuous; narrowing the margins to match those in my document. In each case, line numbering appears properly in Greg's document and not in my document. His document includes the macro for changing section direction, but the macro does not appear to contain a line number command. On Nov 2, 1:05 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, You were the one that posted here claiming it didn't exist. Where you blinded by arrogance? I looked before enabling an Arabic language. Hopefully my self admitted ignorance of the world's languages wiil excuse the oversight. Would you like for me to post a picture for the whole world to see or send you an example? Peter T. Daniels wrote: As usual, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail The existence of a "SectionDirection" command within PageSetup prompted me to look more closely for the option. In order to make a section read right-to-left, go to Page Setup Layout second dropdown at the top. No macro needed. However, though line numbers are checked, they do not display. (In fact, they blinked off when I Ok'd the Page Setup Layout change, though the Line Numbers box was still checked.) So it appears _still_ to be impossible to get line numbers in the right margin with right-to- left text. On Nov 1, 7:55 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Yes. If you have an appropriate language enabled (e.g., Arabic (Iraq)) then you can use a macro to set specific section direction. For example the following macro will display line numbers in the right margin in secton 1. Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub Note: If you do not have an appropriate language enabled (I defer to Mr. Daniels' expertise on what other languages may or may not be appropriate) or subsequently disable the language then this setting will suppress the display of line numbering. To restore them you would need to set the direction back to left to right using: Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionLtr End Sub Peter T. Daniels wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.-- |
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Plonker...
-- Cheers! Gordon Bentley-Mix Word MVP "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... Why would I thank _you_ for what he did? On Nov 3, 2:18 am, "Gordon Bentley-Mix" wrote: What a guy that Greg Maxey is! After all the abuse you've heaped on him over the months and years, he still has the kindness in his heart to find a solution to your problem. Do I hear a thank you? (A little bit corrupt? Is that like a little bit pregnant? g) -- Cheers! Gordon Bentley-Mix Word MVP "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... Greg discovered (by copying it section by section without the section breaks or final paragraph mark) that my document was just a little bit corrupt. Everything now works just as expected. On Nov 2, 1:06 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Nov 2, 12:23 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, Lacking your skills in reading for content vice context and not knowing what people really mean by what is unsaid, is all this gibberish an admission that what you declared as impossible last night you now realize is possible today? A hammer for setting linenumbering programmatically was handed to you in my I saw a hammer for setting Section right-to-left, but not a hammer for setting line numbering. I also do not see such a hammer in the macro included in the .docm in question. An explanation of why a command included in a macro might work while the same command accessed via the GUI might not would be most interesting. first response to this tortured thread. Being something over your head and unworthy of your attention you chose to treat it with scorn rather than as a useful tool. Now you grouse about its absence in the Mr. Daniels' Arrogant Folly document. Which is it Mr. Daniels? We both know that with the discovery of the Section direction option in PageLayout (You know the option that you couldn't find. That had it been a snake it would have bitten you) that a macro isn't required. Still, to temper your fresh round of grumbling here it is: Sub DanielsWantsAHammer() With ActiveDocument With .Sections(1) 'This is the left to right Mr Daniels' Arrogant Folly text With .PageSetup .SectionDirection = wdSectionDirectionLtr With .LineNumbering .Active = True .StartingNumber = 1 'or whatever .CountBy = 1 'or whatever .RestartMode = wdRestartSection 'or whatever .DistanceFromText = 12 'or whatever End With End With End With With .Sections(2) 'This is the Arabic text With .PageSetup .SectionDirection = wdSectionDirectionRtl With .LineNumbering .Active = True .StartingNumber = 1 'or whatever .CountBy = 1 'or whatever .RestartMode = wdRestartSection 'or whatever .DistanceFromText = 12 'or whatever End With End With End With End With End Sub If you can curb your arrogance and rants long enough to send me your troublesome file, I would be delighted to try to find a solution for you. NB that that I said "try." You being a dilletante and all there is no telling what sort of disaster you have created. How was it that you put it? Oh yes. That's your problem, not to be transferred to others who happen to have more skill working with Word. Cheers. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... In the middle of the night, Sociopath Maxey began whining to the newsgroup that I wasn't acknowledging his messages, so he emailed me a document that does indeed contain Arabic text, in a right-to-left section (apparently he failed to read the posting to which he appended this response), that does indeed contain line numbering in the right margin. Extending the sample text to more than 4 lines, I found that it also works with counting every fifth line. This does not explain, however, why the line numbering does not appear on screen at all in my actual file within a right-to-left section containing actual Arabic text, or why when the page is printed, the line numbers do appear -- printed over the text -- inset from the right margin. I experimented with each of these parameters: changing the font from TNR to the one I was using ("Arabic Typesetting"); line numbering in This section only; Next page section break instead of Continuous; narrowing the margins to match those in my document. In each case, line numbering appears properly in Greg's document and not in my document. His document includes the macro for changing section direction, but the macro does not appear to contain a line number command. On Nov 2, 1:05 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Mr. Daniels, You were the one that posted here claiming it didn't exist. Where you blinded by arrogance? I looked before enabling an Arabic language. Hopefully my self admitted ignorance of the world's languages wiil excuse the oversight. Would you like for me to post a picture for the whole world to see or send you an example? Peter T. Daniels wrote: As usual, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail The existence of a "SectionDirection" command within PageSetup prompted me to look more closely for the option. In order to make a section read right-to-left, go to Page Setup Layout second dropdown at the top. No macro needed. However, though line numbers are checked, they do not display. (In fact, they blinked off when I Ok'd the Page Setup Layout change, though the Line Numbers box was still checked.) So it appears _still_ to be impossible to get line numbers in the right margin with right-to- left text. On Nov 1, 7:55 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Yes. If you have an appropriate language enabled (e.g., Arabic (Iraq)) then you can use a macro to set specific section direction. For example the following macro will display line numbers in the right margin in secton 1. Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionRtl End Sub Note: If you do not have an appropriate language enabled (I defer to Mr. Daniels' expertise on what other languages may or may not be appropriate) or subsequently disable the language then this setting will suppress the display of line numbering. To restore them you would need to set the direction back to left to right using: Sub ScratchMaco() ActiveDocument.Sections(1).PageSetup.SectionDirect ion = wdSectionDirectionLtr End Sub Peter T. Daniels wrote: I'm typing a page of Arabic. Is there any way to get the line numbers to appear in the right margin (i.e., at the beginnings of the lines)? Setting "mirror margins" doesn't do it. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.-- |
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