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Word 2007 brings the possibility of making a bibliography, but it contains
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Sorry, the Citation Manager is limited and will not work for all
situations. It can only be customized by digging into the code and at present there seems to be no documentation on how to customize the code, so that's not very feasible. I believe you have to know something called XSLT, which may be part of XML, although I am not entirely sure. Ariel wrote: Word 2007 brings the possibility of making a bibliography, but it contains fixed bibliography styles. How can I make one of my own? |
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I'm not certain - so please don't quote me - but I suspect that the
bibliography styles are built in to Word and not even customisable through XML. -- Enjoy, Tony Jollans Microsoft Word MVP "Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message ... Sorry, the Citation Manager is limited and will not work for all situations. It can only be customized by digging into the code and at present there seems to be no documentation on how to customize the code, so that's not very feasible. I believe you have to know something called XSLT, which may be part of XML, although I am not entirely sure. Ariel wrote: Word 2007 brings the possibility of making a bibliography, but it contains fixed bibliography styles. How can I make one of my own? |
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They ARE customizable. However, for reasons unknown to me, the wise people at
Microsoft decided to make custimization unimaginably difficult. If you are bold enough to try, all unintelligable data is in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography -SHaroz "Tony Jollans" wrote: I'm not certain - so please don't quote me - but I suspect that the bibliography styles are built in to Word and not even customisable through XML. -- Enjoy, Tony Jollans Microsoft Word MVP "Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message ... Sorry, the Citation Manager is limited and will not work for all situations. It can only be customized by digging into the code and at present there seems to be no documentation on how to customize the code, so that's not very feasible. I believe you have to know something called XSLT, which may be part of XML, although I am not entirely sure. Ariel wrote: Word 2007 brings the possibility of making a bibliography, but it contains fixed bibliography styles. How can I make one of my own? |
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Can you advice me what I should do to change (52) to [52]?
"SHaroz" wrote: They ARE customizable. However, for reasons unknown to me, the wise people at Microsoft decided to make custimization unimaginably difficult. If you are bold enough to try, all unintelligable data is in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography -SHaroz "Tony Jollans" wrote: I'm not certain - so please don't quote me - but I suspect that the bibliography styles are built in to Word and not even customisable through XML. -- Enjoy, Tony Jollans Microsoft Word MVP "Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message ... Sorry, the Citation Manager is limited and will not work for all situations. It can only be customized by digging into the code and at present there seems to be no documentation on how to customize the code, so that's not very feasible. I believe you have to know something called XSLT, which may be part of XML, although I am not entirely sure. Ariel wrote: Word 2007 brings the possibility of making a bibliography, but it contains fixed bibliography styles. How can I make one of my own? |
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Hello Chemie,
Changing the braces is often easily done, it's just a matter of changing a few lines of xslt. So if you can tell me the style name, I can probably tell you what to change. Yves -- For more Word 2007 Bibliography info, check out http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography On Jun 6, 9:37*am, Chemie wrote: Can you advice me what I should do to change (52) to [52]? "SHaroz" wrote: They ARE customizable. However, for reasons unknown to me, the wise people at Microsoft decided to make custimization unimaginably difficult. If you are bold enough to try, all unintelligable data is in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography -SHaroz "Tony Jollans" wrote: I'm not certain - so please don't quote me - but I suspect that the bibliographystyles are built in to Word and not even customisable through XML. -- Enjoy, Tony Jollans Microsoft Word MVP "Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message ... Sorry, the Citation Manager is limited and will not work for all situations. It can only be customized by digging into the code and at present there seems to be no documentation on how *to customize the code, so that's not very feasible. I believe you have to know something called XSLT, which may be part of XML, although I am not entirely sure. Ariel wrote: Word 2007 brings the possibility of making abibliography, but it contains fixedbibliographystyles. How can I make one of my own?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Hello Yves
Could you make the chicago style to a numbered style and i would like to make it into [] instead of () Thanks "p0" wrote: Hello Chemie, Changing the braces is often easily done, it's just a matter of changing a few lines of xslt. So if you can tell me the style name, I can probably tell you what to change. Yves -- For more Word 2007 Bibliography info, check out http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography On Jun 6, 9:37 am, Chemie wrote: Can you advice me what I should do to change (52) to [52]? "SHaroz" wrote: They ARE customizable. However, for reasons unknown to me, the wise people at Microsoft decided to make custimization unimaginably difficult. If you are bold enough to try, all unintelligable data is in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography -SHaroz "Tony Jollans" wrote: I'm not certain - so please don't quote me - but I suspect that the bibliographystyles are built in to Word and not even customisable through XML. -- Enjoy, Tony Jollans Microsoft Word MVP "Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message ... Sorry, the Citation Manager is limited and will not work for all situations. It can only be customized by digging into the code and at present there seems to be no documentation on how to customize the code, so that's not very feasible. I believe you have to know something called XSLT, which may be part of XML, although I am not entirely sure. Ariel wrote: Word 2007 brings the possibility of making abibliography, but it contains fixedbibliographystyles. How can I make one of my own?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On 18 Jun, 15:58, Nandha wrote:
Hello Yves Could you make the chicago style to a numbered style and i would like to make it into [] instead of () Thanks "p0" wrote: Dear Nandha, In the Chicago reference style, the elements in the bibliography are ordered in a certain way (alphabetically by main contributor). So if you want the in-text citations to be numbered, you would have to communicate the place of an entry from the bibliography to the citation. To my knowledge this is not possible in Word 2007. I posted some notes as to why at http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...ThreadId=28347 (5th post). If you want to use numbers in-text, your only option is to 'sort' your bibliography at the end of your text in the order the citation elements appear in the text. Is that ok with you? If not, I'm afraid I can't help you. If it is, let me know and I'll post the changes. Also tell me if, in your bibliography at the bottom, the text should be aligned differently from the number (hanging) or not. I mean (hoping this gets formatted correctly): [1] xyz abc (with abc being under xyz) or [1] xyz abc (with abc being under the number) BR, Yves |
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Dear Yves, i think sorting is better than nothing, and my option would go to
the first one [1] xyz abc (with abc being under xyz) so this means that i cannot put numbers in the citation ( i have to do it manually )?, because in the chicago style, it will put (names, years) instead of (index number) basically for citation i would like to use the numbered ISO, but for the bibliography i would like to use the chicago style with number, but any of that improvement is fine by me. Because i already got the answer, no matter what we will have to edit it manually in the end. Thank you Yves PS : I gave up writing my thesis using LATEX because of time limit (don't have much time to make a template), so i will use WYSIWYG like word instead, but i am beginning to like word cause you can work with script using visual studio, also. "p0" wrote: On 18 Jun, 15:58, Nandha wrote: Hello Yves Could you make the chicago style to a numbered style and i would like to make it into [] instead of () Thanks "p0" wrote: Dear Nandha, In the Chicago reference style, the elements in the bibliography are ordered in a certain way (alphabetically by main contributor). So if you want the in-text citations to be numbered, you would have to communicate the place of an entry from the bibliography to the citation. To my knowledge this is not possible in Word 2007. I posted some notes as to why at http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...ThreadId=28347 (5th post). If you want to use numbers in-text, your only option is to 'sort' your bibliography at the end of your text in the order the citation elements appear in the text. Is that ok with you? If not, I'm afraid I can't help you. If it is, let me know and I'll post the changes. Also tell me if, in your bibliography at the bottom, the text should be aligned differently from the number (hanging) or not. I mean (hoping this gets formatted correctly): [1] xyz abc (with abc being under xyz) or [1] xyz abc (with abc being under the number) BR, Yves |
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On 19 jun, 09:56, Nandha wrote:
Dear Yves, i think sorting is better than nothing, and my option would go to the first one [1] xyz * * *abc (with abc being under xyz) so this means that i cannot put numbers in thecitation( i have to do it manually )?, because in the chicago style, it will put (names, years) instead of (index number) basically forcitationi would like to use the numbered ISO, but for thebibliographyi would like to use the chicago style with number, but any of that improvement is fine by me. Because i already got the answer, no matter what we will have to edit it manually in the end. Thank you Yves PS : I gave up writing my thesis using LATEX because of time limit (don't have much time to make a template), so i will use WYSIWYG like word instead, but i am beginning to like word cause you can work with script using visual studio, also. Dear Nandha, If you check the numbered ISO style (ISO 690 - Numerical Reference) you will see that the entries in the bibliography at the bottom are not sorted by name but rather by their position as in-text citation. This is the only way you can use numbers as references in Word 2007. http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eleaseId=14597 will do partially what you want. By removing the sorting rule (as explained on the release notes) you will have your bibliography in order. So if you then convert both your bibliography and your in-text citations to static text, you will just have to do a find, replace operation to change every [x] into an [y]. LaTeX also has WYSIWYG-editors, for example LEd (http:// www.latexeditor.org/). It is just that some projects stubbornly refuse to build them in reasoning that you do not need them to verify the layout. BR, Yves |
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A million thanks to you Yves.
It was released 2 days ago, i didn't relize it. It is actually perfect, i was mistaken to understand your words at that time. I realized that what i want is just like this, the number to apear in order and the bibliography apear as its appearance in the document. Once again thank you sooo much PS : i tried to understand the XSL file, bleeeh its not easy isn't it, too complex "p0" wrote: On 19 jun, 09:56, Nandha wrote: Dear Yves, i think sorting is better than nothing, and my option would go to the first one [1] xyz abc (with abc being under xyz) so this means that i cannot put numbers in thecitation( i have to do it manually )?, because in the chicago style, it will put (names, years) instead of (index number) basically forcitationi would like to use the numbered ISO, but for thebibliographyi would like to use the chicago style with number, but any of that improvement is fine by me. Because i already got the answer, no matter what we will have to edit it manually in the end. Thank you Yves PS : I gave up writing my thesis using LATEX because of time limit (don't have much time to make a template), so i will use WYSIWYG like word instead, but i am beginning to like word cause you can work with script using visual studio, also. Dear Nandha, If you check the numbered ISO style (ISO 690 - Numerical Reference) you will see that the entries in the bibliography at the bottom are not sorted by name but rather by their position as in-text citation. This is the only way you can use numbers as references in Word 2007. http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eleaseId=14597 will do partially what you want. By removing the sorting rule (as explained on the release notes) you will have your bibliography in order. So if you then convert both your bibliography and your in-text citations to static text, you will just have to do a find, replace operation to change every [x] into an [y]. LaTeX also has WYSIWYG-editors, for example LEd (http:// www.latexeditor.org/). It is just that some projects stubbornly refuse to build them in reasoning that you do not need them to verify the layout. BR, Yves |
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p0,
I wonder if you can help me? I would like to change the brackets from (1) to [1] in the ISO numerical reference style, with the text aligned with 'abc' under 'xyz' in your example. I'd be really grateful if you could tell me how to do this. Many many thanks in advance. |
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On 2 jul, 17:13, James wrote:
p0, I wonder if you can help me? *I would like to change the brackets from (1) to [1] in the ISO numerical reference style, with the text aligned with 'abc' under 'xyz' in your example. I'd be really grateful if you could tell me how to do this. Many many thanks in advance. James, Check out http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eleaseId=15028 . I think that will do what you want. BR, Yves |
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Hi Yves,
To expand a little on the former posts, I would like to use the IEEE style, but instead of using standard numbering ( [1], [2]...) I would like to insert the 'tag' between the brackets. For instance: [5] R. Hauffe, et al., "Methods for Passive Fiber Chip Coupling of Integrated Optical Devices," IEEE Transactions on Advanced Packaging, vol. 24, no. 4, pp. 450-455, Nov. 2001. would become [Hau01] R. Hauffe, et al., "Methods for Passive Fiber Chip Coupling of Integrated Optical Devices," IEEE Transactions on Advanced Packaging, vol. 24, no. 4, pp. 450-455, Nov. 2001. And of course I would like the inline citations to be the same. Any ideas on how to do this? |
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On 9 jul, 10:46, Marc Trumpi
wrote: Hi Yves, To expand a little on the former posts, I would like to use the IEEE style, but instead of using standard numbering ( [1], [2]...) I would like to insert the 'tag' between the brackets. For instance: [5] * * R. Hauffe, et al., "Methods for Passive Fiber Chip Coupling of Integrated Optical Devices," IEEE Transactions on Advanced Packaging, vol.. 24, no. 4, pp. 450-455, Nov. 2001. would become [Hau01] R. Hauffe, et al., "Methods for Passive Fiber Chip Coupling of Integrated Optical Devices," IEEE Transactions on Advanced Packaging, vol.. 24, no. 4, pp. 450-455, Nov. 2001. And of course I would like the inline citations to be the same. Any ideas on how to do this? Hi Marc, It comes down to replacing b:RefOrder with b:Tag in all but one place in the stylesheet. I posted a version at http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eleaseId=15183 Don't forget to read the remarks section at that page on how to change the sorting order. HTH Yves |
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Wow, thanks a lot. It works exactly like I was hoping.
"p0" wrote: On 9 jul, 10:46, Marc Trumpi wrote: Hi Yves, To expand a little on the former posts, I would like to use the IEEE style, but instead of using standard numbering ( [1], [2]...) I would like to insert the 'tag' between the brackets. For instance: [5] R. Hauffe, et al., "Methods for Passive Fiber Chip Coupling of Integrated Optical Devices," IEEE Transactions on Advanced Packaging, vol.. 24, no. 4, pp. 450-455, Nov. 2001. would become [Hau01] R. Hauffe, et al., "Methods for Passive Fiber Chip Coupling of Integrated Optical Devices," IEEE Transactions on Advanced Packaging, vol.. 24, no. 4, pp. 450-455, Nov. 2001. And of course I would like the inline citations to be the same. Any ideas on how to do this? Hi Marc, It comes down to replacing b:RefOrder with b:Tag in all but one place in the stylesheet. I posted a version at http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eleaseId=15183 Don't forget to read the remarks section at that page on how to change the sorting order. HTH Yves |
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Hi to all,
I've been reading all the info gathered here and it all seems pretty interesting. I was also looking for a way to change (1) to this [1]; the solutions that are here are really nice. I would like to know if the following is possible: When I insert the bibliography list, the space between the [1] and the text is too small; i would like to know if this space can be modified. I've tried to do so with XLS releases here but the list is always managed as a table, so the TAB Key won't do the work, and neither SPACE. The format i'm looking for is this [1] xyz abc The space between the [1] and xyz should be the same as a TAB Key. Thank you all in advance. SaulG "Marc Trumpi" wrote: Wow, thanks a lot. It works exactly like I was hoping. "p0" wrote: On 9 jul, 10:46, Marc Trumpi wrote: Hi Yves, To expand a little on the former posts, I would like to use the IEEE style, but instead of using standard numbering ( [1], [2]...) I would like to insert the 'tag' between the brackets. For instance: [5] R. Hauffe, et al., "Methods for Passive Fiber Chip Coupling of Integrated Optical Devices," IEEE Transactions on Advanced Packaging, vol.. 24, no. 4, pp. 450-455, Nov. 2001. would become [Hau01] R. Hauffe, et al., "Methods for Passive Fiber Chip Coupling of Integrated Optical Devices," IEEE Transactions on Advanced Packaging, vol.. 24, no. 4, pp. 450-455, Nov. 2001. And of course I would like the inline citations to be the same. Any ideas on how to do this? Hi Marc, It comes down to replacing b:RefOrder with b:Tag in all but one place in the stylesheet. I posted a version at http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eleaseId=15183 Don't forget to read the remarks section at that page on how to change the sorting order. HTH Yves |
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On 5 aug, 03:07, SaulG wrote:
Hi to all, I've been reading all the info gathered here and it all seems pretty interesting. I was also looking for a way to change (1) to this [1]; the solutions that are here are really nice. I would like to know if the following is possible: When I insert thebibliographylist, the space between the [1] and the text is too small; i would like to know if this space can be modified. I've tried to do so with XLS releases here but the list is always managed as a table, so the TAB Key won't do the work, and neither SPACE. The format i'm looking for is this [1] * * xyz * * * * *abc The space between the [1] and xyz should be the same as a TAB Key. Thank you all in advance. SaulG Hi, The easiest way, without having to dig into the XSLT, is to just change the indentation of all the cells in a column to whatever you want. For example, if you were to select the column with numbers (first column), you then have to click the arrow at the bottom of the paragraph ribbon on the home tab. In the window that pops up, you can then set 'Right' under indentation to something like '0,2 cm'. That will change the white space between the numbers and the text. HTH, Yves -- http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography |
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Yves:
Thank you very much!!! for you help, that was exactly what I was looking for!!! Also thank you for the styles published here. SaulG "p0" wrote: On 5 aug, 03:07, SaulG wrote: Hi to all, I've been reading all the info gathered here and it all seems pretty interesting. I was also looking for a way to change (1) to this [1]; the solutions that are here are really nice. I would like to know if the following is possible: When I insert thebibliographylist, the space between the [1] and the text is too small; i would like to know if this space can be modified. I've tried to do so with XLS releases here but the list is always managed as a table, so the TAB Key won't do the work, and neither SPACE. The format i'm looking for is this [1] xyz abc The space between the [1] and xyz should be the same as a TAB Key. Thank you all in advance. SaulG Hi, The easiest way, without having to dig into the XSLT, is to just change the indentation of all the cells in a column to whatever you want. For example, if you were to select the column with numbers (first column), you then have to click the arrow at the bottom of the paragraph ribbon on the home tab. In the window that pops up, you can then set 'Right' under indentation to something like '0,2 cm'. That will change the white space between the numbers and the text. HTH, Yves -- http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography |
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Hi,
All the information on the styles you published are really interesting, but I haven't been able to find a solution to my problem. I was wondering if it is possible when you cite different sources at the same time to have all of them included in a single bracket: instead of having (1)(5)(12) to have (1,5,12)? Thank you in advance, Adam "p0" wrote: On 5 aug, 03:07, SaulG wrote: Hi to all, I've been reading all the info gathered here and it all seems pretty interesting. I was also looking for a way to change (1) to this [1]; the solutions that are here are really nice. I would like to know if the following is possible: When I insert thebibliographylist, the space between the [1] and the text is too small; i would like to know if this space can be modified. I've tried to do so with XLS releases here but the list is always managed as a table, so the TAB Key won't do the work, and neither SPACE. The format i'm looking for is this [1] xyz abc The space between the [1] and xyz should be the same as a TAB Key. Thank you all in advance. SaulG Hi, The easiest way, without having to dig into the XSLT, is to just change the indentation of all the cells in a column to whatever you want. For example, if you were to select the column with numbers (first column), you then have to click the arrow at the bottom of the paragraph ribbon on the home tab. In the window that pops up, you can then set 'Right' under indentation to something like '0,2 cm'. That will change the white space between the numbers and the text. HTH, Yves -- http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography |
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Hi Adam,
This can be done by means of the \m switch (http:// office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA102157071033.aspx). Place your mouse on a citation, right click and select "Edit field...". You will be presented with a window in which you can add the extra sources by means of there tags. Something like "CITATION XYZ05 \l 1033" will be already filled in. All you have to do, is change it into "CITATION XYZ05 \m ABC06 \m KLM07 \l 1033". Yves On 25 aug, 15:14, Adam wrote: Hi, All the information on the styles you published are really interesting, but I haven't been able to find a solution to my problem. *I was wondering if it is possible when you cite different sources at the same time to have all of them included in a single bracket: instead of having (1)(5)(12) to have (1,5,12)? Thank you in advance, Adam "p0" wrote: On 5 aug, 03:07, SaulG wrote: Hi to all, I've been reading all the info gathered here and it all seems pretty interesting. I was also looking for a way to change (1) to this [1]; the solutions that are here are really nice. I would like to know if the following is possible: When I insert thebibliographylist, the space between the [1] and the text is too small; i would like to know if this space can be modified. I've tried to do so with XLS releases here but the list is always managed as a table, so the TAB Key won't do the work, and neither SPACE. The format i'm looking for is this [1] * * xyz * * * * *abc The space between the [1] and xyz should be the same as a TAB Key. Thank you all in advance. SaulG Hi, The easiest way, without having to dig into the XSLT, is to just change the indentation of all the cells in a column to whatever you want. For example, if you were to select the column with numbers (first column), you then have to click the arrow at the bottom of the paragraph ribbon on the home tab. In the window that pops up, you can then set 'Right' under indentation to something like '0,2 cm'. That will change the white space between the numbers and the text. HTH, Yves -- http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven - |
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Thank you so much, it will make my report clearer!
"p0" wrote: Hi Adam, This can be done by means of the \m switch (http:// office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA102157071033.aspx). Place your mouse on a citation, right click and select "Edit field...". You will be presented with a window in which you can add the extra sources by means of there tags. Something like "CITATION XYZ05 \l 1033" will be already filled in. All you have to do, is change it into "CITATION XYZ05 \m ABC06 \m KLM07 \l 1033". Yves On 25 aug, 15:14, Adam wrote: Hi, All the information on the styles you published are really interesting, but I haven't been able to find a solution to my problem. I was wondering if it is possible when you cite different sources at the same time to have all of them included in a single bracket: instead of having (1)(5)(12) to have (1,5,12)? Thank you in advance, Adam "p0" wrote: On 5 aug, 03:07, SaulG wrote: Hi to all, I've been reading all the info gathered here and it all seems pretty interesting. I was also looking for a way to change (1) to this [1]; the solutions that are here are really nice. I would like to know if the following is possible: When I insert thebibliographylist, the space between the [1] and the text is too small; i would like to know if this space can be modified. I've tried to do so with XLS releases here but the list is always managed as a table, so the TAB Key won't do the work, and neither SPACE. The format i'm looking for is this [1] xyz abc The space between the [1] and xyz should be the same as a TAB Key. Thank you all in advance. SaulG Hi, The easiest way, without having to dig into the XSLT, is to just change the indentation of all the cells in a column to whatever you want. For example, if you were to select the column with numbers (first column), you then have to click the arrow at the bottom of the paragraph ribbon on the home tab. In the window that pops up, you can then set 'Right' under indentation to something like '0,2 cm'. That will change the white space between the numbers and the text. HTH, Yves -- http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven - |
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Yves -- this is great help, thank you. The () -- [] requirement is common in
my experience in technical academic research. I'm really surprised that square brackets was not the default or a switch allowed this transformation, but I expect Word ran with whatever was the official standard. It is not de facto common practice though. I really hope your help is made more prominent in due course, e.g. in the on-line help for Word, because it took quite a while to find it in here! "p0" wrote: On 9 jul, 10:46, Marc Trumpi wrote: Hi Yves, To expand a little on the former posts, I would like to use the IEEE style, but instead of using standard numbering ( [1], [2]...) I would like to insert the 'tag' between the brackets. For instance: [5] R. Hauffe, et al., "Methods for Passive Fiber Chip Coupling of Integrated Optical Devices," IEEE Transactions on Advanced Packaging, vol.. 24, no. 4, pp. 450-455, Nov. 2001. would become [Hau01] R. Hauffe, et al., "Methods for Passive Fiber Chip Coupling of Integrated Optical Devices," IEEE Transactions on Advanced Packaging, vol.. 24, no. 4, pp. 450-455, Nov. 2001. And of course I would like the inline citations to be the same. Any ideas on how to do this? Hi Marc, It comes down to replacing b:RefOrder with b:Tag in all but one place in the stylesheet. I posted a version at http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eleaseId=15183 Don't forget to read the remarks section at that page on how to change the sorting order. HTH Yves |
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Hello, I have been reading this string of posts and I think that maybe
someone here might be able to help me. I need to alter the APA style to the LSA style. They are pretty much the same except Word 2007 keeps truncating some author's first names, and putting parentheses aroung the date. I am pretty sure there is a limit on the string length for the author's name that might be increased but I have no idea where to look for it. I have no clue how to fix the parentheses issue. "dswtan" wrote: Yves -- this is great help, thank you. The () -- [] requirement is common in my experience in technical academic research. I'm really surprised that square brackets was not the default or a switch allowed this transformation, but I expect Word ran with whatever was the official standard. It is not de facto common practice though. I really hope your help is made more prominent in due course, e.g. in the on-line help for Word, because it took quite a while to find it in here! "p0" wrote: On 9 jul, 10:46, Marc Trumpi wrote: Hi Yves, To expand a little on the former posts, I would like to use the IEEE style, but instead of using standard numbering ( [1], [2]...) I would like to insert the 'tag' between the brackets. For instance: [5] R. Hauffe, et al., "Methods for Passive Fiber Chip Coupling of Integrated Optical Devices," IEEE Transactions on Advanced Packaging, vol.. 24, no. 4, pp. 450-455, Nov. 2001. would become [Hau01] R. Hauffe, et al., "Methods for Passive Fiber Chip Coupling of Integrated Optical Devices," IEEE Transactions on Advanced Packaging, vol.. 24, no. 4, pp. 450-455, Nov. 2001. And of course I would like the inline citations to be the same. Any ideas on how to do this? Hi Marc, It comes down to replacing b:RefOrder with b:Tag in all but one place in the stylesheet. I posted a version at http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eleaseId=15183 Don't forget to read the remarks section at that page on how to change the sorting order. HTH Yves |
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On 4 sep, 05:06, Chrog wrote:
Hello, I have been reading this string of posts and I think that maybe someone here might be able to help me. *I need to alter the APA style to the LSA style. *They are pretty much the same except Word 2007 keeps truncating some author's first names, and putting parentheses aroung the date. I am pretty sure there is a limit on the string length for the author's name that might be increased but I have no idea where to look for it. *I have no clue how to fix the parentheses issue. * Before toying around with the APA.xsl I suggest you make a copy of it and call it LSA.xsl. Put the copy in the same directory as APA.xsl. Open up your new created LSA.xsl and look for a piece of xml looking like this: xsl:when test="b:OfficeStyleKey" xsl:textAPA/xsl:text /xsl:when Change it into: xsl:when test="b:StyleName" xsl:textLSA/xsl:text /xsl:when Save the entire thing. Now when you start up Word, there will be an LSA entry in the style list to pick from. Starting from here, you should only play around with LSA.xsl and NOT with APA.xsl. The parentheses around the year are put there during the declaration of the "enclosedYearDot" variable by the following code (located around line 5039): xsl:variable name="enclosedYearDot" xsl:if test="string-length($year)0" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen"/ xsl:value-of select="$year"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Dot"/ /xsl:if /xsl:variable By removing the calls to templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen and templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose you will remove the brackets. So you would get: xsl:variable name="enclosedYearDot" xsl:if test="string-length($year)0" !--xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen"/-- xsl:value-of select="$year"/ !--xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose"/-- xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Dot"/ /xsl:if /xsl:variable Note that right under the declaration of enclosedYearDot, enclosedDateDot and enclosedDateEmptyDot are declared. They put 'entire' dates between brackets. So you also might want to change those if you don't want brackets around any date. The name of one of the main contributors to a work is formatted as follows: xsl:template name="formatMainAuthor" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FML"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FM"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_ML"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FL"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:template with the following definitions (which you can't change directly): templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FML = %L, %f %m templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FM = %f %m templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_ML = %L, %m templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FL = %L, %f where lower case characters stands for initials and upper case characters for the full name part. So if you don't want any of the main authors names abbreviated, you could change the routine into: xsl:template name="formatMainAuthor" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:value-of select="'%L, %F %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:value-of select="'%F %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:value-of select="'%L, %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:value-of select="'%L, %F'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:template Once again, note that there is also a formatting routine for secondary authors right beneath it (formatSecondaryName) which you might want to change as well to your preferred format. Yves |
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Thanks this did the trick; it is working great!!!! One other quesiton that
you might be able to help with. When there are two authors for some source the second is always listed as LAST, FIRST but I want it the other way around. For example: Smith, John and Jane Doe. 2020. etc. not Smith, John and Doe, Jane. 2020. etc. I tried to make some adjustments in the (formatSecondaryName) part of the code but nothing changed. Any advice? "p0" wrote: On 4 sep, 05:06, Chrog wrote: Hello, I have been reading this string of posts and I think that maybe someone here might be able to help me. I need to alter the APA style to the LSA style. They are pretty much the same except Word 2007 keeps truncating some author's first names, and putting parentheses aroung the date. I am pretty sure there is a limit on the string length for the author's name that might be increased but I have no idea where to look for it. I have no clue how to fix the parentheses issue. Before toying around with the APA.xsl I suggest you make a copy of it and call it LSA.xsl. Put the copy in the same directory as APA.xsl. Open up your new created LSA.xsl and look for a piece of xml looking like this: xsl:when test="b:OfficeStyleKey" xsl:textAPA/xsl:text /xsl:when Change it into: xsl:when test="b:StyleName" xsl:textLSA/xsl:text /xsl:when Save the entire thing. Now when you start up Word, there will be an LSA entry in the style list to pick from. Starting from here, you should only play around with LSA.xsl and NOT with APA.xsl. The parentheses around the year are put there during the declaration of the "enclosedYearDot" variable by the following code (located around line 5039): xsl:variable name="enclosedYearDot" xsl:if test="string-length($year)0" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen"/ xsl:value-of select="$year"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Dot"/ /xsl:if /xsl:variable By removing the calls to templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen and templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose you will remove the brackets. So you would get: xsl:variable name="enclosedYearDot" xsl:if test="string-length($year)0" !--xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen"/-- xsl:value-of select="$year"/ !--xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose"/-- xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Dot"/ /xsl:if /xsl:variable Note that right under the declaration of enclosedYearDot, enclosedDateDot and enclosedDateEmptyDot are declared. They put 'entire' dates between brackets. So you also might want to change those if you don't want brackets around any date. The name of one of the main contributors to a work is formatted as follows: xsl:template name="formatMainAuthor" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FML"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FM"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_ML"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FL"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:template with the following definitions (which you can't change directly): templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FML = %L, %f %m templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FM = %f %m templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_ML = %L, %m templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FL = %L, %f where lower case characters stands for initials and upper case characters for the full name part. So if you don't want any of the main authors names abbreviated, you could change the routine into: xsl:template name="formatMainAuthor" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:value-of select="'%L, %F %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:value-of select="'%F %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:value-of select="'%L, %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:value-of select="'%L, %F'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:template Once again, note that there is also a formatting routine for secondary authors right beneath it (formatSecondaryName) which you might want to change as well to your preferred format. Yves |
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formatSecondaryName is for a possible second group of contributors to
a work (for example in book sections) not for the second (or further) person of the main contributors. I suggest adding a template "formatMainAuthorAfterFirst" to the stylesheet. As the name suggests, it describes how to format the main author after the first person. Since you want first name followed by last name, the template would look something like this: xsl:template name="formatMainAuthorAfterFirst" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:value-of select="'%F %M %L'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:value-of select="'%F %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:value-of select="'%M %L'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:value-of select="'%F %L'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:template Currently, a set of main authors is formatted using the following code: xsl:template name="formatPersonsAuthor" xsl:if test="string-length(b:Corporate)=0" xsl:for-each select="b:NameList/b:Person" xsl:if test="position() = 1" xsl:call-template name="formatMainAuthor"/ /xsl:if xsl:if test="6 = position() and position() != 1" xsl:call-template name="formatMainAuthor"/ /xsl:if xsl:call-template name="formatPersonSeperatorMain"/ /xsl:for-each /xsl:if xsl:if test="string-length(b:Corporate)0" xsl:value-of select="b:Corporate"/ /xsl:if /xsl:template Here you can see that Microsoft already thought of people who want their second person displayed differently from their first. The second 'if' statement (xsl:if test="6 = position() and position() != 1") indicates how the persons 2 to 6 should be handled. In the above code, they should be handled just like the first person. So here you can call your newly defined template instead of the old one. Hence you would change the code from: xsl:if test="6 = position() and position() != 1" xsl:call-template name="formatMainAuthor"/ /xsl:if into: xsl:if test="6 = position() and position() != 1" xsl:call-template name="formatMainAuthorAfterFirst"/ /xsl:if Regards, Yves On 4 sep, 19:49, chrog wrote: Thanks this did the trick; it is working great!!!! *One other quesiton that you might be able to help with. *When there are two authors for some source the second is always listed as LAST, FIRST but I want it the other way around. For example: Smith, John and Jane Doe. 2020. *etc. * not Smith, John and Doe, Jane. 2020. etc. I tried to make some adjustments in the (formatSecondaryName) part of the code but nothing changed. *Any advice? "p0" wrote: On 4 sep, 05:06, Chrog wrote: Hello, I have been reading this string of posts and I think that maybe someone here might be able to help me. *I need to alter the APA style to the LSA style. *They are pretty much the same except Word 2007 keeps truncating some author's first names, and putting parentheses aroung the date. I am pretty sure there is a limit on the string length for the author's name that might be increased but I have no idea where to look for it. *I have no clue how to fix the parentheses issue. * Before toying around with the APA.xsl I suggest you make a copy of it and call it LSA.xsl. Put the copy in the same directory as APA.xsl. Open up your new created LSA.xsl and look for a piece of xml looking like this: * xsl:when test="b:OfficeStyleKey" * * xsl:textAPA/xsl:text * /xsl:when Change it into: * xsl:when test="b:StyleName" * * xsl:textLSA/xsl:text * /xsl:when Save the entire thing. Now when you start up Word, there will be an LSA entry in the style list to pick from. Starting from here, you should only play around with LSA.xsl and NOT with APA.xsl. The parentheses around the year are put there during the declaration of the "enclosedYearDot" variable by the following code (located around line 5039): * xsl:variable name="enclosedYearDot" * * xsl:if test="string-length($year)0" * * * xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen"/ * * * xsl:value-of select="$year"/ * * * xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose"/ * * * xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Dot"/ * * /xsl:if * /xsl:variable By removing the calls to templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen and templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose you will remove the brackets. So you would get: * xsl:variable name="enclosedYearDot" * * xsl:if test="string-length($year)0" * * * !--xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen"/-- * * * xsl:value-of select="$year"/ * * * !--xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose"/-- * * * xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Dot"/ * * /xsl:if * /xsl:variable Note that right under the declaration of enclosedYearDot, enclosedDateDot and enclosedDateEmptyDot are declared. They put 'entire' dates between brackets. So you also might want to change those if you don't want brackets around any date. The name of one of the main contributors to a work is formatted as follows: * xsl:template name="formatMainAuthor" * * xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" * * * xsl:with-param name="FML" * * * * xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FML"/ * * * /xsl:with-param * * * xsl:with-param name="FM" * * * * xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FM"/ * * * /xsl:with-param * * * xsl:with-param name="ML" * * * * xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_ML"/ * * * /xsl:with-param * * * xsl:with-param name="FL" * * * * xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FL"/ * * * /xsl:with-param * * * xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param * * * xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param * * /xsl:call-template * /xsl:template with the following definitions (which you can't change directly): * * templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FML = %L, %f %m * * templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FM = %f %m * * templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_ML = %L, %m * * templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FL = %L, %f where lower case characters stands for initials and upper case characters for the full name part. So if you don't want any of the main authors names abbreviated, you could change the routine into: * xsl:template name="formatMainAuthor" * * xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" * * * xsl:with-param name="FML" * * * * xsl:value-of select="'%L, %F %M'"/ * * * /xsl:with-param * * * xsl:with-param name="FM" * * * * xsl:value-of select="'%F %M'"/ * * * /xsl:with-param * * * xsl:with-param name="ML" * * * * xsl:value-of select="'%L, %M'"/ * * * /xsl:with-param * * * xsl:with-param name="FL" * * * * xsl:value-of select="'%L, %F'"/ * * * /xsl:with-param * * * xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param * * * xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param * * /xsl:call-template * /xsl:template Once again, note that there is also a formatting routine for secondary authors right beneath it (formatSecondaryName) which you might want to change as well to your preferred format. Yves |
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Thank you very much for your help! It works perfectly.
"p0" wrote: formatSecondaryName is for a possible second group of contributors to a work (for example in book sections) not for the second (or further) person of the main contributors. I suggest adding a template "formatMainAuthorAfterFirst" to the stylesheet. As the name suggests, it describes how to format the main author after the first person. Since you want first name followed by last name, the template would look something like this: xsl:template name="formatMainAuthorAfterFirst" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:value-of select="'%F %M %L'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:value-of select="'%F %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:value-of select="'%M %L'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:value-of select="'%F %L'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:template Currently, a set of main authors is formatted using the following code: xsl:template name="formatPersonsAuthor" xsl:if test="string-length(b:Corporate)=0" xsl:for-each select="b:NameList/b:Person" xsl:if test="position() = 1" xsl:call-template name="formatMainAuthor"/ /xsl:if xsl:if test="6 = position() and position() != 1" xsl:call-template name="formatMainAuthor"/ /xsl:if xsl:call-template name="formatPersonSeperatorMain"/ /xsl:for-each /xsl:if xsl:if test="string-length(b:Corporate)0" xsl:value-of select="b:Corporate"/ /xsl:if /xsl:template Here you can see that Microsoft already thought of people who want their second person displayed differently from their first. The second 'if' statement (xsl:if test="6 = position() and position() != 1") indicates how the persons 2 to 6 should be handled. In the above code, they should be handled just like the first person. So here you can call your newly defined template instead of the old one. Hence you would change the code from: xsl:if test="6 = position() and position() != 1" xsl:call-template name="formatMainAuthor"/ /xsl:if into: xsl:if test="6 = position() and position() != 1" xsl:call-template name="formatMainAuthorAfterFirst"/ /xsl:if Regards, Yves On 4 sep, 19:49, chrog wrote: Thanks this did the trick; it is working great!!!! One other quesiton that you might be able to help with. When there are two authors for some source the second is always listed as LAST, FIRST but I want it the other way around. For example: Smith, John and Jane Doe. 2020. etc. not Smith, John and Doe, Jane. 2020. etc. I tried to make some adjustments in the (formatSecondaryName) part of the code but nothing changed. Any advice? "p0" wrote: On 4 sep, 05:06, Chrog wrote: Hello, I have been reading this string of posts and I think that maybe someone here might be able to help me. I need to alter the APA style to the LSA style. They are pretty much the same except Word 2007 keeps truncating some author's first names, and putting parentheses aroung the date. I am pretty sure there is a limit on the string length for the author's name that might be increased but I have no idea where to look for it. I have no clue how to fix the parentheses issue. Before toying around with the APA.xsl I suggest you make a copy of it and call it LSA.xsl. Put the copy in the same directory as APA.xsl. Open up your new created LSA.xsl and look for a piece of xml looking like this: xsl:when test="b:OfficeStyleKey" xsl:textAPA/xsl:text /xsl:when Change it into: xsl:when test="b:StyleName" xsl:textLSA/xsl:text /xsl:when Save the entire thing. Now when you start up Word, there will be an LSA entry in the style list to pick from. Starting from here, you should only play around with LSA.xsl and NOT with APA.xsl. The parentheses around the year are put there during the declaration of the "enclosedYearDot" variable by the following code (located around line 5039): xsl:variable name="enclosedYearDot" xsl:if test="string-length($year)0" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen"/ xsl:value-of select="$year"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Dot"/ /xsl:if /xsl:variable By removing the calls to templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen and templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose you will remove the brackets. So you would get: xsl:variable name="enclosedYearDot" xsl:if test="string-length($year)0" !--xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen"/-- xsl:value-of select="$year"/ !--xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose"/-- xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Dot"/ /xsl:if /xsl:variable Note that right under the declaration of enclosedYearDot, enclosedDateDot and enclosedDateEmptyDot are declared. They put 'entire' dates between brackets. So you also might want to change those if you don't want brackets around any date. The name of one of the main contributors to a work is formatted as follows: xsl:template name="formatMainAuthor" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FML"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FM"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_ML"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FL"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:template with the following definitions (which you can't change directly): templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FML = %L, %f %m templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FM = %f %m templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_ML = %L, %m templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FL = %L, %f where lower case characters stands for initials and upper case characters for the full name part. So if you don't want any of the main authors names abbreviated, you could change the routine into: xsl:template name="formatMainAuthor" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:value-of select="'%L, %F %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:value-of select="'%F %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:value-of select="'%L, %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:value-of select="'%L, %F'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:template Once again, note that there is also a formatting routine for secondary authors right beneath it (formatSecondaryName) which you might want to change as well to your preferred format. Yves |
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Hi Yves,
Thanks for your awesome code! I was just wondering...when I hit the 'insert citation' button, all my references in the main text are reference [1] even though they are sorted and numbered correctly in the actual bibliography at the end. Any help would be appreciated. THANKS! S "Nandha" wrote: A million thanks to you Yves. It was released 2 days ago, i didn't relize it. It is actually perfect, i was mistaken to understand your words at that time. I realized that what i want is just like this, the number to apear in order and the bibliography apear as its appearance in the document. Once again thank you sooo much PS : i tried to understand the XSL file, bleeeh its not easy isn't it, too complex "p0" wrote: On 19 jun, 09:56, Nandha wrote: Dear Yves, i think sorting is better than nothing, and my option would go to the first one [1] xyz abc (with abc being under xyz) so this means that i cannot put numbers in thecitation( i have to do it manually )?, because in the chicago style, it will put (names, years) instead of (index number) basically forcitationi would like to use the numbered ISO, but for thebibliographyi would like to use the chicago style with number, but any of that improvement is fine by me. Because i already got the answer, no matter what we will have to edit it manually in the end. Thank you Yves PS : I gave up writing my thesis using LATEX because of time limit (don't have much time to make a template), so i will use WYSIWYG like word instead, but i am beginning to like word cause you can work with script using visual studio, also. Dear Nandha, If you check the numbered ISO style (ISO 690 - Numerical Reference) you will see that the entries in the bibliography at the bottom are not sorted by name but rather by their position as in-text citation. This is the only way you can use numbers as references in Word 2007. http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eleaseId=14597 will do partially what you want. By removing the sorting rule (as explained on the release notes) you will have your bibliography in order. So if you then convert both your bibliography and your in-text citations to static text, you will just have to do a find, replace operation to change every [x] into an [y]. LaTeX also has WYSIWYG-editors, for example LEd (http:// www.latexeditor.org/). It is just that some projects stubbornly refuse to build them in reasoning that you do not need them to verify the layout. BR, Yves |
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Hi S,
By the sound of it, I'm guessing the in-text citation fields are not updated. Once you finished your text, go to the bibliography style selection dropdown box and select the style you want again. That way, all CITATION and BIBLIOGRAPHY fields in your text will be updated. Yves On 9 sep, 22:46, S wrote: Hi Yves, Thanks for your awesome code! I was just wondering...when I hit the 'insertcitation' button, all my references in the main text are reference [1] even though they are sorted and numbered correctly in the actualbibliographyat the end. Any help would be appreciated. THANKS! S "Nandha" wrote: A million thanks to you Yves. It was released 2 days ago, i didn't relize it. It is actually perfect, i was mistaken to understand your words at that time. I realized that what i want is just like this, the number to apear in order and thebibliography apear as its appearance in the document. Once again thank you sooo much PS : i tried to understand the XSL file, bleeeh its not easy isn't it, too complex "p0" wrote: On 19 jun, 09:56, Nandha wrote: Dear Yves, i think sorting is better than nothing, and my option would go to the first one [1] xyz * * *abc (with abc being under xyz) so this means that i cannot put numbers in thecitation( i have to do it manually )?, because in the chicago style, it will put (names, years) instead of (index number) basically forcitationi would like to use the numbered ISO, but for thebibliographyi would like to use the chicago style with number, but any of that improvement is fine by me. Because i already got the answer, no matter what we will have to edit it manually in the end. Thank you Yves PS : I gave up writing my thesis using LATEX because of time limit (don't have much time to make a template), so i will use WYSIWYG like word instead, but i am beginning to like word cause you can work with script using visual studio, also. Dear Nandha, If you check the numbered ISO style (ISO 690 - Numerical Reference) you will see that the entries in thebibliographyat the bottom are not sorted by name but rather by their position as in-textcitation. This is the only way you can use numbers as references in Word 2007. http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eases.aspx?Rel.... will do partially what you want. By removing the sorting rule (as explained on the release notes) you will have yourbibliographyin order. So if you then convert both yourbibliographyand your in-text citations to static text, you will just have to do a find, replace operation to change every [x] into an [y]. LaTeX also has WYSIWYG-editors, for example LEd (http:// www.latexeditor.org/). It is just that some projects stubbornly refuse to build them in reasoning that you do not need them to verify the layout. BR, Yves |
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I continue to have more questions on organizing a new biliographic style in
Word. These posts have answered every question so far, but I am not sure if it good etiquette to keep asking more questions here. (If it isn't I am sorry). 1) I need to change the title of the automatic bibliography from Bibliography to References. 2) I need to get rid of all the italics on the Titles and volume numbers. (actually everywhere) 3) Journal volumes should never be place inside parentheses 4) The informaiton about a book chapter needs to be reversed. That is in stead of Smith, John. 2008. Good Bibliographies. In Jane Doe (Ed.) Academic Scholarship. etc. I need Smith, John. 2008. Good Bibliographies. Academic Scholarship, ed. by Jane Doe.etc. Thanks for any responses and help. "p0" wrote: formatSecondaryName is for a possible second group of contributors to a work (for example in book sections) not for the second (or further) person of the main contributors. I suggest adding a template "formatMainAuthorAfterFirst" to the stylesheet. As the name suggests, it describes how to format the main author after the first person. Since you want first name followed by last name, the template would look something like this: xsl:template name="formatMainAuthorAfterFirst" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:value-of select="'%F %M %L'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:value-of select="'%F %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:value-of select="'%M %L'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:value-of select="'%F %L'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:template Currently, a set of main authors is formatted using the following code: xsl:template name="formatPersonsAuthor" xsl:if test="string-length(b:Corporate)=0" xsl:for-each select="b:NameList/b:Person" xsl:if test="position() = 1" xsl:call-template name="formatMainAuthor"/ /xsl:if xsl:if test="6 = position() and position() != 1" xsl:call-template name="formatMainAuthor"/ /xsl:if xsl:call-template name="formatPersonSeperatorMain"/ /xsl:for-each /xsl:if xsl:if test="string-length(b:Corporate)0" xsl:value-of select="b:Corporate"/ /xsl:if /xsl:template Here you can see that Microsoft already thought of people who want their second person displayed differently from their first. The second 'if' statement (xsl:if test="6 = position() and position() != 1") indicates how the persons 2 to 6 should be handled. In the above code, they should be handled just like the first person. So here you can call your newly defined template instead of the old one. Hence you would change the code from: xsl:if test="6 = position() and position() != 1" xsl:call-template name="formatMainAuthor"/ /xsl:if into: xsl:if test="6 = position() and position() != 1" xsl:call-template name="formatMainAuthorAfterFirst"/ /xsl:if Regards, Yves On 4 sep, 19:49, chrog wrote: Thanks this did the trick; it is working great!!!! One other quesiton that you might be able to help with. When there are two authors for some source the second is always listed as LAST, FIRST but I want it the other way around. For example: Smith, John and Jane Doe. 2020. etc. not Smith, John and Doe, Jane. 2020. etc. I tried to make some adjustments in the (formatSecondaryName) part of the code but nothing changed. Any advice? "p0" wrote: On 4 sep, 05:06, Chrog wrote: Hello, I have been reading this string of posts and I think that maybe someone here might be able to help me. I need to alter the APA style to the LSA style. They are pretty much the same except Word 2007 keeps truncating some author's first names, and putting parentheses aroung the date. I am pretty sure there is a limit on the string length for the author's name that might be increased but I have no idea where to look for it. I have no clue how to fix the parentheses issue. Before toying around with the APA.xsl I suggest you make a copy of it and call it LSA.xsl. Put the copy in the same directory as APA.xsl. Open up your new created LSA.xsl and look for a piece of xml looking like this: xsl:when test="b:OfficeStyleKey" xsl:textAPA/xsl:text /xsl:when Change it into: xsl:when test="b:StyleName" xsl:textLSA/xsl:text /xsl:when Save the entire thing. Now when you start up Word, there will be an LSA entry in the style list to pick from. Starting from here, you should only play around with LSA.xsl and NOT with APA.xsl. The parentheses around the year are put there during the declaration of the "enclosedYearDot" variable by the following code (located around line 5039): xsl:variable name="enclosedYearDot" xsl:if test="string-length($year)0" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen"/ xsl:value-of select="$year"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Dot"/ /xsl:if /xsl:variable By removing the calls to templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen and templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose you will remove the brackets. So you would get: xsl:variable name="enclosedYearDot" xsl:if test="string-length($year)0" !--xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralOpen"/-- xsl:value-of select="$year"/ !--xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_GeneralClose"/-- xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Dot"/ /xsl:if /xsl:variable Note that right under the declaration of enclosedYearDot, enclosedDateDot and enclosedDateEmptyDot are declared. They put 'entire' dates between brackets. So you also might want to change those if you don't want brackets around any date. The name of one of the main contributors to a work is formatted as follows: xsl:template name="formatMainAuthor" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FML"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FM"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_ML"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FL"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:template with the following definitions (which you can't change directly): templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FML = %L, %f %m templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FM = %f %m templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_ML = %L, %m templ_prop_APA_MainAuthors_FL = %L, %f where lower case characters stands for initials and upper case characters for the full name part. So if you don't want any of the main authors names abbreviated, you could change the routine into: xsl:template name="formatMainAuthor" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:value-of select="'%L, %F %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:value-of select="'%F %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:value-of select="'%L, %M'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:value-of select="'%L, %F'"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"yes/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:template Once again, note that there is also a formatting routine for secondary authors right beneath it (formatSecondaryName) which you might want to change as well to your preferred format. Yves |
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On 10 sep, 19:46, chrog wrote:
I continue to have more questions on organizing a new biliographic style in Word. *These posts have answered every question so far, but I am not sure if it good etiquette to keep asking more questions here. *(If it isn't I am sorry). Public forums are a better place to get your questions answered than private communication. Besides, others get to comment on or extend the solutions you got or might even benefit from them. So this is a good place. 1) I need to change the title of the automatic bibliography from Bibliography to References. * You can't. It is a built-in gallery. But that's not a problem, beneath the built-in galeries ('Bibliography' and 'Works Cited') there is a menu-item called 'Insert Bibliography'. This will insert a bibliography without any title. Then above your bibliography, you can put 'References' or whatever you want. 2) *I need to get rid of all the italics on the Titles and volume numbers. (actually everywhere) All italic information is set by the template called ApplyItalicTitleNS. The function has two outcomes depending on a fixed variable indicating if it should use italics or not. If it is not allowed to use italics, it still formats title by adding opening and closing stuff like quotation marks. If you are certain that you don't want anything italic in your stylesheet and you don't want the alternative formatting, you can just erase the functionality of that template by replacing it with: xsl:template name="ApplyItalicTitleNS" xslaram name="data" / xsl:copy-of select="msxsl:node-set($data)" / /xsl:template If you do want the alternative formatting, you might try changing: xsl:variable name="prop_NoItalics" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_NoItalics"/ /xsl:variable into: xsl:variable name="prop_NoItalics" xsl:value-of select="'no'"/ /xsl:variable This might give a strange effect on volumes though. If that is still not what you want, you will have to go over every call to the ApplyItalicTitleNS template and decide if you should make the call or not. A lot more editing work, but still doable. 3) Journal volumes should never be place inside parentheses They never are for journals. If you are still working from the APA style, volume numbers of journals should be in italic (or just plain after your previous question), not in brackets. Are you talking about issue numbers for journals (and periodicals)? Or are you talking about book sections where the volume number is between brackets together with a lot of other information? And in case of the latter, does that information has to remain inside the brackets or not? 4) The informaiton about a book chapter needs to be reversed. *That is in stead of Smith, John. 2008. *Good Bibliographies. In Jane Doe (Ed.) Academic Scholarship. *etc. I need Smith, John. 2008. Good Bibliographies. *Academic Scholarship, ed. by Jane Doe.etc. Could you elaborate on the etc? Currently (apart from some punctuation differences) it's actually: Smith, John. 2008. Good Bibliographies. In Jane Doe (Ed.) Academic Scholarship (Translator, edition, volume, pages). City, State, Country, Publisher Do you want the translator, edition, volume, pages information still with the title (logically), or do you want it somewhere else as well? So it could be Smith, John. 2008. Good Bibliographies. Academic Scholarship, ed. by Jane Doe. (Translator, edition, volume, pages). City, State, Country, Publisher but also Smith, John. 2008. Good Bibliographies. Academic Scholarship (Translator, edition, volume, pages), ed. by Jane Doe. City, State, Country, Publisher The latter being a lot less complex to achieve though they both can be created. It might be easier if you could point me to an online manual containing a description of the style you try to achieve. Thanks for any responses and help. On a side note, if you start making fundamental changes, you should consider writing a style from scratch rather than trying to patch up existing material. Yves |
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Hi,
I have a problem with ISO 690 in Word 2007. It references 'JournalArticle' and 'ConferenceProceedings' with Title, Year and not with Author, Year as is the case with Boks, all other . So instead of (Rogers, 2005) it displays (Towards Movement Friendly Computing in an Office Environment, 2005). Does anyone know how to change the XSL code. Thanks Natasa |
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The bibliography tool is sadly broken. Despite what "p0" = Yves will
tell you, it was released before it was ready to be used, and there is little hope of fixing it if you are not a master of XML programming. And it has been stated here that the engineers who worked on it are no longer at Microsoft, so it's not likely to be fixed. On Sep 24, 7:29*am, Nat wrote: Hi, I have a problem with ISO 690 in Word 2007. It references 'JournalArticle' * and 'ConferenceProceedings' with Title, Year and not with Author, Year as is the case with Boks, all other . * So instead of (Rogers, 2005) it displays (Towards Movement Friendly Computing in an Office Environment, 2005). Does anyone know how to change the XSL code. Thanks Natasa * |
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On 24 sep, 13:29, Nat wrote:
Hi, I have a problem with ISO 690 in Word 2007. It references 'JournalArticle' * and 'ConferenceProceedings' with Title, Year and not with Author, Year as is the case with Boks, all other . * So instead of (Rogers, 2005) it displays (Towards Movement Friendly Computing in an Office Environment, 2005). Does anyone know how to change the XSL code. Thanks Natasa * Hello Natasa, I suggest you make a copy of "ISO690.xsl" and name it "ISO690Alt.xsl" or something before starting to mess around with it. In the new file, look for: xsl:when test="b:OfficeStyleKey" xsl:textISO690FED/xsl:text /xsl:when and replace it by: xsl:when test="b:StyleName" xsl:textISO 690 - First Name Alternative/xsl:text /xsl:when If you save this style, and start Word 2007, a new style called "ISO 690 - First Name Alternative" will now be available. First, I'll show you how to change the citation. Around line 3657, you have a piece code looking like this: xsl:when test="(msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/ b:Source/b:SourceType = 'JournalArticle' or msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/b:Source/ b:SourceType = 'ConferenceProceedings') and string-length(msxsl:node- set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/b:Source/b:Title) 0" xsl:value-of select="msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/ b:Citation/b:Source/b:Title" / /xsl:when This code actually says that if your source is a conference proceeding or a journal article, it should display the title. If you would check the code below, you would see that otherwise the main contributors are displayed. As you don't want to display the title, remove the above code. Now your citations for conference proceedings and journal articles look like those for books. Of course, your bibliography is still sorted by means of the title for conference proceedings and journal articles. So you might want to change that as well. Elements are sorted based on the value generated for the SortingString element. b:SortingString xsl:if test = "(b:SourceType = 'JournalArticle' or b:SourceType = 'ConferenceProceedings') and string-length(b:Title) 0" xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:value-of select="b:Title"/ /xsl:if xsl:variable name = "author0" xsl:for-each select="./b:Author/*[local-name()= $MostImportantAuthorLocalName]" xsl:call-template name="formatPersons" xsl:with-param name = "forceMain" select = "'yes'" / /xsl:call-template /xsl:for-each /xsl:variable xsl:variable name = "author" xsl:choose xsl:when test="string-length(./b:Author/*[local-name()= $MostImportantAuthorLocalName]/b:Corporate) 0" xsl:value-of select="./b:Author/*[local-name()= $MostImportantAuthorLocalName]/b:Corporate"/ /xsl:when xsl:when test="string-length($author0) 0" xsl:value-of select="$author0"/ /xsl:when /xsl:choose /xsl:variable xsl:if test="string-length($author) 0" xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:value-of select="$author"/ /xsl:if xsl:if test="string-length(b:Title) 0 and not (b:SourceType = 'JournalArticle' or b:SourceType = ConferenceProceedings')" xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:value-of select="b:Title"/ /xsl:if /b:SortingString It looks like a lot of code, but it is pretty easy to grasp. There are basically three IF clauses: 1)if its a journal article or conference proceedings and there is a title, add the title 2)if there are authors, add the authors 3)if its not a journal article or conference proceedings and there is a title, add the title So you want this changed into something looking like: b:SortingString xsl:variable name = "author0" xsl:for-each select="./b:Author/*[local-name()= $MostImportantAuthorLocalName]" xsl:call-template name="formatPersons" xsl:with-param name = "forceMain" select = "'yes'" / /xsl:call-template /xsl:for-each /xsl:variable xsl:variable name = "author" xsl:choose xsl:when test="string-length(./b:Author/*[local-name()= $MostImportantAuthorLocalName]/b:Corporate) 0" xsl:value-of select="./b:Author/*[local-name()= $MostImportantAuthorLocalName]/b:Corporate"/ /xsl:when xsl:when test="string-length($author0) 0" xsl:value-of select="$author0"/ /xsl:when /xsl:choose /xsl:variable xsl:if test="string-length($author) 0" xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:value-of select="$author"/ /xsl:if xsl:if test="string-length(b:Title) 0" xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:value-of select="b:Title"/ /xsl:if /b:SortingString So now that the order of the bibliography is fixed, one thing is left to do: displaying the journal articles and conference proceedings in such a way that the authors are displayed before the title. In the code there is a section looking like this (it's easily identifiable as it is just above the single b in the entire code: xsl:if test="b:SourceType='ConferenceProceedings' or b:SourceType='JournalArticle'" xsl:call-template name = "ApplyItalicTitleNS" xsl:with-param name = "data" xsl:choose xsl:when test="(/b:Bibliography/b:Source[position()= $prevBook]/b:SourceType = 'JournalArticle' or /b:Bibliography/b:Source[position()=$prevBook]/b:SourceType = 'ConferenceProceedings') and /b:Bibliography/b:Source[position()= $prevBook]/b:Title = b:Title" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_ISO690_SameAuthor"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Dot"/ /xsl:when xsl:when test="b:SourceType = 'JournalArticle' or b:SourceType = 'ConferenceProceedings'" xsl:copy-of select ='$TitleOfMonographParts'/ /xsl:when /xsl:choose /xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:if Removing the above code will remove the title for journal articles and conference proceedings from the beginning. Actually, it removes them completely from the bibliography. So now we have to add them again else where. Now if you scroll until the end of the 'b'tag (denoted by /b) you will see that a choose construction is given handling all the source types. So here you would want to display the title again and change xsl:when test="b:SourceType='JournalArticle'" into xsl:when test="b:SourceType='JournalArticle'" i xsl:copy-of select ='$TitleOfMonographParts'/ /i And xsl:when test="b:SourceType='ArticleInAPeriodical'" into xsl:when test="b:SourceType='ArticleInAPeriodical'" i xsl:copy-of select ='$TitleOfMonographParts'/ /i I added the 'i' tags so that the titles are displayed in italic, if that is not what you want, you can just remove them. I compiled all the changes described in this post into an xsl file which you can find at http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eleaseId=17634 HTH, Yves |
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Hey guys,
i need a special type of bibliography style, called "William Giles Campbell's: Form and Style: Thesis, Reports, Term Papers". I found that the built in MLA Style fits in the bibliography, but for the footnote citations i need the following format: Jacob Brownowski, The Ascent of Man -underlined, (Boston: Little, Brown, 1973). If someone can help me it would be great! Thanks! |
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Usually a typed underline is a makeshift replacement for italics: can
you check with whoever is requiring this style whether you can substitute italics? On Oct 23, 3:40*am, Jan wrote: Hey guys, i need a special type of bibliography style, called "William Giles Campbell's: Form and Style: Thesis, Reports, Term Papers". I found that the built in MLA Style fits in the bibliography, but for the footnote citations i need the following format: Jacob Brownowski, The Ascent of Man -underlined, (Boston: Little, Brown, 1973). If someone can help me it would be great! Thanks! |
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MLA in-text citations consist out of authors only (e.g.: (Doe and Doe)
and (Beethoven)). So what he asks for is not just switching from italics to underline, but rather a rewrite of the entire in-text/ footnote citation (not bibliography) formatting routine. Although this is possible, it requires a lot of work. So much work in fact that I doubt anyone will be able to help him. Yves -- http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography On 23 okt, 13:57, grammatim wrote: Usually a typed underline is a makeshift replacement for italics: can you check with whoever is requiring this style whether you can substitute italics? On Oct 23, 3:40*am, Jan wrote: Hey guys, i need a special type of bibliography style, called "William Giles Campbell's: Form and Style: Thesis, Reports, Term Papers". I found that the built in MLA Style fits in the bibliography, but for the footnote citations i need the following format: Jacob Brownowski, The Ascent of Man -underlined, (Boston: Little, Brown, 1973). If someone can help me it would be great! Thanks! |
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Footnotes like that, with full bibliographical information, are
normally only done when no bibliography (reference list) is provided at all. Otherwise, the redundancy is immense. On Oct 23, 9:17*am, p0 wrote: MLA in-text citations consist out of authors only (e.g.: (Doe and Doe) and (Beethoven)). So what he asks for is not just switching from italics to underline, but rather a rewrite of the entire in-text/ footnote citation (not bibliography) formatting routine. Although this is possible, it requires a lot of work. So much work in fact that I doubt anyone will be able to help him. Yves --http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography On 23 okt, 13:57, grammatim wrote: Usually a typed underline is a makeshift replacement for italics: can you check with whoever is requiring this style whether you can substitute italics? On Oct 23, 3:40*am, Jan wrote: Hey guys, i need a special type of bibliography style, called "William Giles Campbell's: Form and Style: Thesis, Reports, Term Papers". I found that the built in MLA Style fits in the bibliography, but for the footnote citations i need the following format: Jacob Brownowski, The Ascent of Man -underlined, (Boston: Little, Brown, 1973). If someone can help me it would be great! Thanks!- |
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How can I make a custom bibliography style?
It depends on the style. A lot of legal styles want both, full in-text
citation (through footnotes) and a bibliographic list. I guess it makes it easier for people wanting to look stuff up. You are right on it being redundant. But you have to admit that most bibliographic styles are not really an example of smart thinking or the result of bright minds at work. Compared to author-date styles, this "William Giles Campbell" style is more redundant but also more intelligent. It is not uncommon for someone to write multiple articles (conferences, journals, book sections) a year. The described system makes it easy for the reader to know what is being cited. In an ordinary author-date system, is not only the formatting harder (you need to display more or less authors, add a suffix to the year, ...), its result is also meaningless for most people reading the work. They have no idea who "Doe" is, and even if they do, how should they know what "Doe" wrote sometime during 2008. A reference number pointing to the bibliography at the end would be just as clear and a lot less redundant. It also wouldn't require some complex formatting scheme. If you really wanted a scheme similar to author-date which would be useful for ordinary people, then at least the title should be somehow included as it tells more about the work being cited than the name of the author does. Yves On 23 okt, 16:18, grammatim wrote: Footnotes like that, with full bibliographical information, are normally only done when nobibliography(reference list) is provided at all. Otherwise, the redundancy is immense. On Oct 23, 9:17*am, p0 wrote: MLAin-text citations consist out of authors only (e.g.: (Doe and Doe) and (Beethoven)). So what he asks for is not just switching from italics to underline, but rather a rewrite of the entire in-text/ footnotecitation(notbibliography) formatting routine. Although this is possible, it requires a lot of work. So much work in fact that I doubt anyone will be able to help him. Yves --http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography On 23 okt, 13:57, grammatim wrote: Usually a typed underline is a makeshift replacement for italics: can you check with whoever is requiring this style whether you can substitute italics? On Oct 23, 3:40*am, Jan wrote: Hey guys, i need a special type ofbibliographystyle, called "William Giles Campbell's: Form and Style: Thesis, Reports, Term Papers". I found that the built inMLAStyle fits in thebibliography, but for the footnote citations i need the following format: Jacob Brownowski, The Ascent of Man -underlined, (Boston: Little, Brown, 1973). If someone can help me it would be great! Thanks! |
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