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Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead
of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...word-2007.aspx) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? |
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In the Track Changes Options, do you have "Keep Track of Moves"
checked? Did you move a complete sentence or more? Were there any tracked changes in the sentence you moved? On Oct 15, 7:50*pm, JenC wrote: Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...6/10/13/nice-m...) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? |
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On Oct 15, 7:50*pm, JenC wrote:
Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...6/10/13/nice-m...) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? JenC, Since your post makes it clear that you have done some research about this feature I will risk assuming that have it turned on and that you have attempted to move complete sentences so I won't waste your time with questions. Previously when Mr. Danilels asked about this very same feature and behavior he provided no hint whatsover, that he may have it turned on or that he had attempted to move entire sentences. He answered a similiar question with a terse "Of course!" It is perfectly understandable if you find his smug and arrogant techniques offensive. I feel that Micorsoft could have done a better job with with because if the sentence you are trying to move contains unaccepted changes then the move will be marked as an insertion at the new location. If you first accept changess in the sentence you going to move, then the move will be moved accordingly. Not ideal, but that's the way it is. Good luck. |
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When you ASSUME, you make an ASS out of U.
You see, JenC, Cdr. (U.S.N., ret.) Gregory K. Maxey wishes he were still in a position to boss people around (and even though he resigned his "commission" from the MVP program, his webpage is still hosted there), and has limited ability to comprehend the questions that people actually ask, but instead looks for any opportunity to do what he calls "spank" _me_. And why this vendetta? Because, nearly two years ago, he responded to a question on this newsgroup with a rude remark, I "spanked" him by wondering whether rude remarks were appropriate from someone in the positionof MVP, and he demanded that I apologize for calling him out on making a rude remark. Note that he further ASSUMEs that I have never tried the (seriously deficient) "Track Moves" "feature" (actually bug) in Word2007, and moreover (having provided no reference) apparently invented a fictional response supposed to have been made by me. Since Cdr. (Ret.) Maxey seems not to have understood your question, I'll respond even more explicitly, entirely for his benefit. If you have "Track Moves" turned on in the Track Changes Options, then the moved material will appear in green double strikethrough in the old position, and in green double underline in the new position (unless you've changed those parameters). HOWEVER, if you try to Move less than a full sentence; or if you try to Move even a full sentence that already contains tracked changes, you will not get a tracked Move; and if, after you do a tracked Move you decide you don't want the passage moved, you can't Reject the move with the Reject button, and if you change something in a Moved sentence, the change will not be Tracked. On Oct 16, 6:26*am, Greg Maxey wrote: On Oct 15, 7:50*pm, JenC wrote: Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...6/10/13/nice-m....) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? JenC, Since your post makes it clear that you have done some research about this feature I will risk assuming that have it turned on and that you have attempted to move complete sentences so I won't waste your time with questions. Previously when Mr. Danilels asked about this very same feature and behavior he provided no hint whatsover, that he may have it turned on or that he had attempted to move entire sentences. *He answered a similiar question with a terse "Of course!" It is perfectly understandable if you find his smug and arrogant techniques offensive. I feel that Micorsoft could have done a better job with with because if the sentence you are trying to move contains unaccepted changes then the move will be marked as an insertion at the new location. *If you first accept changess in the sentence you going to move, then the move will be moved accordingly. *Not ideal, but that's the way it is. Good luck. |
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My what diatribe. So let's see Mr. Daniels, you now ASSUME to know what I
wish for. While completely immaterial, not only are you ignorant concerning my wishes, you are also ignorant about the host service for my website. Despite what you think you know, the Micorosoft MVP program and MVPS.org are not the same. Considering the ignorance you typically display in this forum, outside your extremely limited range of language expertise, one could conclude that you are simply ignorant. I made no claim that you had never tried Track Moves. Quite the contrary. I said that when you once posted about problems with the same feature you made a terse reply when someone else responded to your post with a question. You seek a reference? Seek no further:: http://groups.google.com/group/micro....public.word.* If you are honest you will not deny that was you when you posted and hid behind the clown's name "grammatim." You took offense then at Ms. Fredborg's rhetorical question. So why do you adopt a manner that you find offensive when you asked your rhetorical questions here? I know why and so do you. It's your unbridled arrogance and smug sense of superiority. Considering JenC's statement and question, your first two questions were simply stupid. "However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature?" Or is it you that has comprehension difficulties? Or did you just skip over that part as is often the case considering your habit of "ASSUMING" that everyone who posts an original question here is a complete imbecile or "newbie?" Happy spankings ;-) Peter T. Daniels wrote: When you ASSUME, you make an ASS out of U. You see, JenC, Cdr. (U.S.N., ret.) Gregory K. Maxey wishes he were still in a position to boss people around (and even though he resigned his "commission" from the MVP program, his webpage is still hosted there), and has limited ability to comprehend the questions that people actually ask, but instead looks for any opportunity to do what he calls "spank" _me_. And why this vendetta? Because, nearly two years ago, he responded to a question on this newsgroup with a rude remark, I "spanked" him by wondering whether rude remarks were appropriate from someone in the positionof MVP, and he demanded that I apologize for calling him out on making a rude remark. Note that he further ASSUMEs that I have never tried the (seriously deficient) "Track Moves" "feature" (actually bug) in Word2007, and moreover (having provided no reference) apparently invented a fictional response supposed to have been made by me. Since Cdr. (Ret.) Maxey seems not to have understood your question, I'll respond even more explicitly, entirely for his benefit. If you have "Track Moves" turned on in the Track Changes Options, then the moved material will appear in green double strikethrough in the old position, and in green double underline in the new position (unless you've changed those parameters). HOWEVER, if you try to Move less than a full sentence; or if you try to Move even a full sentence that already contains tracked changes, you will not get a tracked Move; and if, after you do a tracked Move you decide you don't want the passage moved, you can't Reject the move with the Reject button, and if you change something in a Moved sentence, the change will not be Tracked. On Oct 16, 6:26 am, Greg Maxey wrote: On Oct 15, 7:50 pm, JenC wrote: Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...6/10/13/nice-m...) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? JenC, Since your post makes it clear that you have done some research about this feature I will risk assuming that have it turned on and that you have attempted to move complete sentences so I won't waste your time with questions. Previously when Mr. Danilels asked about this very same feature and behavior he provided no hint whatsover, that he may have it turned on or that he had attempted to move entire sentences. He answered a similiar question with a terse "Of course!" It is perfectly understandable if you find his smug and arrogant techniques offensive. I feel that Micorsoft could have done a better job with with because if the sentence you are trying to move contains unaccepted changes then the move will be marked as an insertion at the new location. If you first accept changess in the sentence you going to move, then the move will be moved accordingly. Not ideal, but that's the way it is. Good luck. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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Now we know exactly how dishonest Cdr. (Ret.) Maxey is.
That is _precisely_ the thread, _initiated by me_, in which I asked a question similar to JenC's, and the "of course not!" replied to someone wondering whether I was using a document that was not in Word2007 format. And I did not choose then for google groups to display my name as grammatim, and I did not choose now for google groups to display my name as Peter T. Daniels. That behavior was not under my control. Treating a moved sentence as an insertion+deletion rather than as a green Move is _precisely_ the behavior that would be seen if "Track Moves" had _not_ been selected (and "Track Moves" is not selected by default). JenC reported that she had _seen a discussion_ of "Move" and thus knew that it existed. She did not indicate that she knew she needed to turn it on to see what would happen. Admit it, Cdr. (Ret.) Maxey, your irrational compulsion to stalk and harass me overcame whatever knowledge you may have had of the "Move" feature, forcing you to post a superfluous (and, in its last paragraph, if anyone bothered to read past the diatribe, redundant) paragraph, just to hear yourself vent -- and all because you won't admit that it was inappropriate to post a rude remark in response to an innocent question. On Oct 16, 12:50*pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: My what diatribe. *So let's see Mr. Daniels, you now ASSUME to know what I wish for. While completely immaterial, not only are you ignorant concerning my wishes, you are also ignorant about the host service for my website. *Despite what you think you know, the Micorosoft MVP program and MVPS.org are not the same. *Considering the ignorance you typically display in this forum, outside your extremely limited range of language expertise, one could conclude that you are simply ignorant. I made no claim that you had never tried Track Moves. *Quite the contrary. I said that when you once posted about problems with the same feature you made a terse reply when someone else responded to your post with a question. You seek a reference? Seek no further::http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... If you are honest you will not deny that was you when you posted and hid behind the clown's name "grammatim." You took offense then at Ms. Fredborg's rhetorical question. *So why do you adopt a manner that you find offensive when you asked your rhetorical questions here? *I know why and so do you. *It's your unbridled arrogance and smug sense of superiority. Considering *JenC's statement and question, your first two questions were simply stupid. "However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature?" Or is it you that has comprehension difficulties? Or did you just skip over that part as is often the case considering your habit of "ASSUMING" that everyone who posts an original question here is a complete imbecile or "newbie?" Happy spankings ;-) Peter T. Daniels wrote: When you ASSUME, you make an ASS out of U. You see, JenC, Cdr. (U.S.N., ret.) Gregory K. Maxey wishes he were still in a position to boss people around (and even though he resigned his "commission" from the MVP program, his webpage is still hosted there), and has limited ability to comprehend the questions that people actually ask, but instead looks for any opportunity to do what he calls "spank" _me_. And why this vendetta? Because, nearly two years ago, he responded to a question on this newsgroup with a rude remark, I "spanked" him by wondering whether rude remarks were appropriate from someone in the positionof MVP, and he demanded that I apologize for calling him out on making a rude remark. Note that he further ASSUMEs that I have never tried the (seriously deficient) "Track Moves" "feature" (actually bug) *in Word2007, and moreover (having provided no reference) apparently invented a fictional response supposed to have been made by me. Since Cdr. (Ret.) Maxey seems not to have understood your question, I'll respond even more explicitly, entirely for his benefit. If you have "Track Moves" turned on in the Track Changes Options, then the moved material will appear in green double strikethrough in the old position, and in green double underline in the new position (unless you've changed those parameters). HOWEVER, if you try to Move less than a full sentence; or if you try to Move even a full sentence that already contains tracked changes, you will not get a tracked Move; and if, after you do a tracked Move you decide you don't want the passage moved, you can't Reject the move with the Reject button, and if you change something in a Moved sentence, the change will not be Tracked. On Oct 16, 6:26 am, Greg Maxey wrote: On Oct 15, 7:50 pm, JenC wrote: Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...6/10/13/nice-m...) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? JenC, Since your post makes it clear that you have done some research about this feature I will risk assuming that have it turned on and that you have attempted to move complete sentences so I won't waste your time with questions. Previously when Mr. Danilels asked about this very same feature and behavior he provided no hint whatsover, that he may have it turned on or that he had attempted to move entire sentences. He answered a similiar question with a terse "Of course!" It is perfectly understandable if you find his smug and arrogant techniques offensive. I feel that Micorsoft could have done a better job with with because if the sentence you are trying to move contains unaccepted changes then the move will be marked as an insertion at the new location. If you first accept changess in the sentence you going to move, then the move will be moved accordingly. Not ideal, but that's the way it is. Good luck. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Oct 15, 7:50*pm, JenC wrote:
Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...6/10/13/nice-m...) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? JenC, I’ll leave Mr. Daniels to foam at the mouth, and try to provide a better answer to your questions: Yes. While the feature does not work as we might intuitively think it should or like we might wish it did, if used in a specific manner you can get a track changes to show a sentence moved rather than deleted and inserted elsewhere. No. The feature has not been removed. Some points for use: 1. The text unit you wish to move must be a complete sentence unit. This can be a single word or heading that Word recognizes as a sentence. 2. The text unit can not contain unaccepted changes (e.g., deletions or insertions). 3. Mr. Daniels is wrong. Moved text can be restored to its former location using the “Reject” button or by right clicking the move balloon and checking “reject” move. 4. Mr. Daniels is wrong again. Changes (e.g., insertions or deletions) made in moved text will be annotated. Since pictures seldom lie, I have posted one illustrating these points, purely for Mr. Daniel’s benefit. See: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Poor_peter.htm If you would like I can send you an actual document showing these examples. |
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Mr. Daniels,
Do you ever check your facts? Here you are foaming at the mouth over what I might or might not know about track moves and you post: "...and if, after you do a tracked Move you decide you don't want the passage moved, you can't Reject the move with the Reject button, and if you change something in a Moved sentence, the change will not be Tracked." You're wrong Mr. Daniels. Continue in your arguments as you like, you are still wrong and as arrogant about it as ever. Cheers. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Now we know exactly how dishonest Cdr. (Ret.) Maxey is. That is _precisely_ the thread, _initiated by me_, in which I asked a question similar to JenC's, and the "of course not!" replied to someone wondering whether I was using a document that was not in Word2007 format. And I did not choose then for google groups to display my name as grammatim, and I did not choose now for google groups to display my name as Peter T. Daniels. That behavior was not under my control. Treating a moved sentence as an insertion+deletion rather than as a green Move is _precisely_ the behavior that would be seen if "Track Moves" had _not_ been selected (and "Track Moves" is not selected by default). JenC reported that she had _seen a discussion_ of "Move" and thus knew that it existed. She did not indicate that she knew she needed to turn it on to see what would happen. Admit it, Cdr. (Ret.) Maxey, your irrational compulsion to stalk and harass me overcame whatever knowledge you may have had of the "Move" feature, forcing you to post a superfluous (and, in its last paragraph, if anyone bothered to read past the diatribe, redundant) paragraph, just to hear yourself vent -- and all because you won't admit that it was inappropriate to post a rude remark in response to an innocent question. On Oct 16, 12:50 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: My what diatribe. So let's see Mr. Daniels, you now ASSUME to know what I wish for. While completely immaterial, not only are you ignorant concerning my wishes, you are also ignorant about the host service for my website. Despite what you think you know, the Micorosoft MVP program and MVPS.org are not the same. Considering the ignorance you typically display in this forum, outside your extremely limited range of language expertise, one could conclude that you are simply ignorant. I made no claim that you had never tried Track Moves. Quite the contrary. I said that when you once posted about problems with the same feature you made a terse reply when someone else responded to your post with a question. You seek a reference? Seek no further::http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... If you are honest you will not deny that was you when you posted and hid behind the clown's name "grammatim." You took offense then at Ms. Fredborg's rhetorical question. So why do you adopt a manner that you find offensive when you asked your rhetorical questions here? I know why and so do you. It's your unbridled arrogance and smug sense of superiority. Considering JenC's statement and question, your first two questions were simply stupid. "However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature?" Or is it you that has comprehension difficulties? Or did you just skip over that part as is often the case considering your habit of "ASSUMING" that everyone who posts an original question here is a complete imbecile or "newbie?" Happy spankings ;-) Peter T. Daniels wrote: When you ASSUME, you make an ASS out of U. You see, JenC, Cdr. (U.S.N., ret.) Gregory K. Maxey wishes he were still in a position to boss people around (and even though he resigned his "commission" from the MVP program, his webpage is still hosted there), and has limited ability to comprehend the questions that people actually ask, but instead looks for any opportunity to do what he calls "spank" _me_. And why this vendetta? Because, nearly two years ago, he responded to a question on this newsgroup with a rude remark, I "spanked" him by wondering whether rude remarks were appropriate from someone in the positionof MVP, and he demanded that I apologize for calling him out on making a rude remark. Note that he further ASSUMEs that I have never tried the (seriously deficient) "Track Moves" "feature" (actually bug) in Word2007, and moreover (having provided no reference) apparently invented a fictional response supposed to have been made by me. Since Cdr. (Ret.) Maxey seems not to have understood your question, I'll respond even more explicitly, entirely for his benefit. If you have "Track Moves" turned on in the Track Changes Options, then the moved material will appear in green double strikethrough in the old position, and in green double underline in the new position (unless you've changed those parameters). HOWEVER, if you try to Move less than a full sentence; or if you try to Move even a full sentence that already contains tracked changes, you will not get a tracked Move; and if, after you do a tracked Move you decide you don't want the passage moved, you can't Reject the move with the Reject button, and if you change something in a Moved sentence, the change will not be Tracked. On Oct 16, 6:26 am, Greg Maxey wrote: On Oct 15, 7:50 pm, JenC wrote: Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...6/10/13/nice-m...) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? JenC, Since your post makes it clear that you have done some research about this feature I will risk assuming that have it turned on and that you have attempted to move complete sentences so I won't waste your time with questions. Previously when Mr. Danilels asked about this very same feature and behavior he provided no hint whatsover, that he may have it turned on or that he had attempted to move entire sentences. He answered a similiar question with a terse "Of course!" It is perfectly understandable if you find his smug and arrogant techniques offensive. I feel that Micorsoft could have done a better job with with because if the sentence you are trying to move contains unaccepted changes then the move will be marked as an insertion at the new location. If you first accept changess in the sentence you going to move, then the move will be moved accordingly. Not ideal, but that's the way it is. Good luck. -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly...who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who have never known neither victory nor defeat." - TR |
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On Oct 16, 3:17*pm, Greg Maxey wrote:
On Oct 15, 7:50*pm, JenC wrote: Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...6/10/13/nice-m....) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? JenC, I’ll leave Mr. Daniels to foam at the mouth, and try to provide a better answer to your questions: Yes. While the feature does not work as we might intuitively think it should or like we might wish it did, if used in a specific manner you can get a track changes to show a sentence moved rather than deleted and inserted elsewhere. No. The feature has not been removed. --the most basic response to the original question being, You need to turn it on within Track Changes Options -- it is not turned on "out of the box" (as I said). Some points for use: 1. The text unit you wish to move must be a complete sentence unit. This can be a single word or heading that Word recognizes as a sentence. --as I said. 2. The text unit can not contain unaccepted changes (e.g., deletions or insertions). --as I said. 3. Mr. Daniels is wrong. Moved text can be restored to its former location using the “Reject” button or by right clicking the move balloon and checking “reject” move. --This has changed since I tried to use "Move" when I initiated the intial thread that Cdr. (Ret.) Maxey so distortingly referenced. Presumably the change was made in one of the periodic Updates. 4. Mr. Daniels is wrong again. Changes (e.g., insertions or deletions) made in moved text will be annotated. --ditto. Moreover, when one tries to Reject a Move with Changes, a box opens asking whether to keep the original text or the changed text in the old location. Since pictures seldom lie, I have posted one illustrating these points, purely for Mr. Daniel’s benefit. See:http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Poor_peter.htm Who is "Mr. Daniel"? If you would like I can send you an actual document showing these examples. |
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Who is "Mr. Daniel"?
Ever village has its idiot. Could it be he? Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Oct 16, 3:17 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Oct 15, 7:50 pm, JenC wrote: Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...6/10/13/nice-m...) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? JenC, I’ll leave Mr. Daniels to foam at the mouth, and try to provide a better answer to your questions: Yes. While the feature does not work as we might intuitively think it should or like we might wish it did, if used in a specific manner you can get a track changes to show a sentence moved rather than deleted and inserted elsewhere. No. The feature has not been removed. --the most basic response to the original question being, You need to turn it on within Track Changes Options -- it is not turned on "out of the box" (as I said). Some points for use: 1. The text unit you wish to move must be a complete sentence unit. This can be a single word or heading that Word recognizes as a sentence. --as I said. 2. The text unit can not contain unaccepted changes (e.g., deletions or insertions). --as I said. 3. Mr. Daniels is wrong. Moved text can be restored to its former location using the “Reject” button or by right clicking the move balloon and checking “reject” move. --This has changed since I tried to use "Move" when I initiated the intial thread that Cdr. (Ret.) Maxey so distortingly referenced. Presumably the change was made in one of the periodic Updates. 4. Mr. Daniels is wrong again. Changes (e.g., insertions or deletions) made in moved text will be annotated. --ditto. Moreover, when one tries to Reject a Move with Changes, a box opens asking whether to keep the original text or the changed text in the old location. Since pictures seldom lie, I have posted one illustrating these points, purely for Mr. Daniel’s benefit. See:http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Poor_peter.htm Who is "Mr. Daniel"? If you would like I can send you an actual document showing these examples. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly...who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who have never known neither victory nor defeat." - TR |
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Tracked changes: show as "moved" instead of inserted/deleted
Who has assumed that they know all? Who has assumed that Microsoft never
fixes problems introduced with new features? Who has assumed that since they once experienced a problem with a feature and learned something about its behavior in the process that they could then pontificate on its workings and shortcomings? In view of the assumptions you have posted here one may conclude that it is U in ASSUME after all. Do you ever check your assumptions posted as facts? Apparently not. Cheers. Peter T. Daniels wrote: When you ASSUME, you make an ASS out of U. You see, JenC, Cdr. (U.S.N., ret.) Gregory K. Maxey wishes he were still in a position to boss people around (and even though he resigned his "commission" from the MVP program, his webpage is still hosted there), and has limited ability to comprehend the questions that people actually ask, but instead looks for any opportunity to do what he calls "spank" _me_. And why this vendetta? Because, nearly two years ago, he responded to a question on this newsgroup with a rude remark, I "spanked" him by wondering whether rude remarks were appropriate from someone in the positionof MVP, and he demanded that I apologize for calling him out on making a rude remark. Note that he further ASSUMEs that I have never tried the (seriously deficient) "Track Moves" "feature" (actually bug) in Word2007, and moreover (having provided no reference) apparently invented a fictional response supposed to have been made by me. Since Cdr. (Ret.) Maxey seems not to have understood your question, I'll respond even more explicitly, entirely for his benefit. If you have "Track Moves" turned on in the Track Changes Options, then the moved material will appear in green double strikethrough in the old position, and in green double underline in the new position (unless you've changed those parameters). HOWEVER, if you try to Move less than a full sentence; or if you try to Move even a full sentence that already contains tracked changes, you will not get a tracked Move; and if, after you do a tracked Move you decide you don't want the passage moved, you can't Reject the move with the Reject button, and if you change something in a Moved sentence, the change will not be Tracked. On Oct 16, 6:26 am, Greg Maxey wrote: On Oct 15, 7:50 pm, JenC wrote: Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...6/10/13/nice-m...) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? JenC, Since your post makes it clear that you have done some research about this feature I will risk assuming that have it turned on and that you have attempted to move complete sentences so I won't waste your time with questions. Previously when Mr. Danilels asked about this very same feature and behavior he provided no hint whatsover, that he may have it turned on or that he had attempted to move entire sentences. He answered a similiar question with a terse "Of course!" It is perfectly understandable if you find his smug and arrogant techniques offensive. I feel that Micorsoft could have done a better job with with because if the sentence you are trying to move contains unaccepted changes then the move will be marked as an insertion at the new location. If you first accept changess in the sentence you going to move, then the move will be moved accordingly. Not ideal, but that's the way it is. Good luck. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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Tracked changes: show as "moved" instead of inserted/deleted
I think I found the solution to this...make sure the option is turned on in
the track changes options. The document I was working on was in compatibility mode, so the option wasn't available. "JenC" wrote: Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...word-2007.aspx) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? |
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JenC,
Good. I am glad it is working for you. Despite the dustups between Mr. Daniels and I, perhaps we all have learned a little something from this post. JenC wrote: I think I found the solution to this...make sure the option is turned on in the track changes options. The document I was working on was in compatibility mode, so the option wasn't available. "JenC" wrote: Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...word-2007.aspx) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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Tracked changes: show as "moved" instead of inserted/deleted
This was, of course, the first thing I mentioned four days ago.
You neglected to mention you weren't dealing with a Word2007 file in Word2007. On Oct 19, 3:21*pm, JenC wrote: I think I found the solution to this...make sure the option is turned on in the track changes options. The document I was working on was in compatibility mode, so the option wasn't available. "JenC" wrote: Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...6/10/13/nice-m....) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature?- |
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Fourteen posts and what have we learned?
1. The "Track Moves" functionality in Microsoft Word 2007 only works under very special circumstances. Some of the conditions under which it does *not* work include: working with documents in compatibility mode; "moving" less than a full sentence (or anything that Word doesn't recognise as a full sentence); "moving" content that already contains tracked changes; "moving" content when the option to "Keep Track of Moves" is not selected. 2. "Moves" can be accepted or rejected just like any other tracked change, and additional edits made within "moved" content are tracked as well. 3. The "Track Moves" functionality in the latest version of Word 2007 isn't perfect and doesn't always work the way one might expect it to. However, it has been improved since it was first introduced, and it will probably continue to be improved over time. 4. Like all of us CDR Gregory K. Maxey, formerly of the USN, makes mistakes, but when he does at least he has the decency to admit that he's made a mistake, atone for his error, and ask forgiveness. 5. Peter T. Daniels is still an arrogant, opinionated, pedantic, pig-headed troll who causes more problems than he solves, researches his responses poorly, refuses to admit when he's wrong, argues off the point in a pitiful attempt to make himself look better, and generally makes this newsgroup an unpleasant place to look for help. 6. In spite of all this, somehow JenC still managed to get an answer to her question without getting caught up in all of the BS created by the aforementioned troll. She showed remarkable patience, wasn't offended by the mistakes others might have made whilst trying to help her, and (as yet) hasn't flamed said troll for being so rude and arrogant in his last post to her. Questions that remain outstanding: 1. Who is 'Mr. Daniel'? (But then who really cares?) 2. What is the name of the village that is apparently still missing its idiot? -- Cheers! Gordon Bentley-Mix (I expect soon to be "Former") Word MVP "JenC" wrote in message ... Is there a way to get Word 2007 to show a moved sentence as "moved", instead of as a deletion and subsequent insertion elsewhere? When I googled this I found an old post from the MS Word team's blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...word-2007.aspx) that seemed to say this was the case. However, when I try it (moving an entire sentence to another position in the same paragraph), it still marks it as an insertion/deletion. Did they remove this feature? |
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Maybe it's due to compatibility. Go to file tab and when it is opened, the first in the list will be Info. You can find the first element under info with the name of "Convert". If you convert your file, new features including track moves (under Track Changes Option) will be enabled. Then you can go to Track Change advanced option and check "track moves" and define your favorite color for that action.
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