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Hello,

I am working on a legal document someone else created. I can't get the 2nd
line in one of their paragraphs to indent like I need it to. the They have
the following sentence:

Tab 0.5 Tab 1.0 Tab 1.5
Tab 6.5
| | |
|
(f) (1) All cash fees payable under
Subsection 2(a) are
due and made payable at the closing, etc., etc.

I need the 2nd line, "due and made payable...", to be indented at Tab 1.5
underneath the 1st line, "All cash fees payable..."
The Paragraph Indentation dialog box shows Left Indent at 0.5" and a Hanging
Indent By 0.5".
For now I've just put a paragraph break after the word "are" at the end of
the first line and that works my indenting problem but the whole document
is full justified and that leaves a big blank space after the "are" and it
makes that word along the right margin uneven.
This is a legal document and has to look just right, can anyone help me out,
please?

Thanks in advance.
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"Studebaker" wrote: I need the 2nd line, "due and made payable...", to be
indented at Tab 1.5 underneath the 1st line, "All cash fees payable..." The
Paragraph Indentation dialog box shows Left Indent at 0.5" and a Hanging
Indent By 0.5".

I suspect there is a tab character in your first line, nonetheless, 0.5" +
0.5" is only 1.0" and not 1.5". If you set the hanging indent to 1", does
that solve your problem?

Steven Craig Miller

Hello,

I am working on a legal document someone else created. I can't get the 2nd
line in one of their paragraphs to indent like I need it to. the They have
the following sentence:

Tab 0.5 Tab 1.0 Tab 1.5
Tab 6.5
| | |
|
(f) (1) All cash fees payable under
Subsection 2(a) are
due and made payable at the closing, etc., etc.

I need the 2nd line, "due and made payable...", to be indented at Tab 1.5
underneath the 1st line, "All cash fees payable..."
The Paragraph Indentation dialog box shows Left Indent at 0.5" and a Hanging
Indent By 0.5".
For now I've just put a paragraph break after the word "are" at the end of
the first line and that works my indenting problem but the whole document
is full justified and that leaves a big blank space after the "are" and it
makes that word along the right margin uneven.
This is a legal document and has to look just right, can anyone help me out,
please?

Thanks in advance.

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Hello,

No, if I try to change the left indent from 0.5" or the hanging indent from
0.5" to anything else it will move the whole thing--the (f) and/or the (1). I
need them to stay stationary and the 2nd line of text to line up with the 1st
line of text.
Ex:
(f) (1) All cash fees payable under Subsections 2(a), 2(b), and 2(d)
above
shall be due and
If you or anyone could help, I would appreciate it!!

Thanks!

"StevenM" wrote:

"Studebaker" wrote: I need the 2nd line, "due and made payable...", to be
indented at Tab 1.5 underneath the 1st line, "All cash fees payable..." The
Paragraph Indentation dialog box shows Left Indent at 0.5" and a Hanging
Indent By 0.5".

I suspect there is a tab character in your first line, nonetheless, 0.5" +
0.5" is only 1.0" and not 1.5". If you set the hanging indent to 1", does
that solve your problem?

Steven Craig Miller

Hello,

I am working on a legal document someone else created. I can't get the 2nd
line in one of their paragraphs to indent like I need it to. the They have
the following sentence:

Tab 0.5 Tab 1.0 Tab 1.5
Tab 6.5
| | |
|
(f) (1) All cash fees payable under
Subsection 2(a) are
due and made payable at the closing, etc., etc.

I need the 2nd line, "due and made payable...", to be indented at Tab 1.5
underneath the 1st line, "All cash fees payable..."
The Paragraph Indentation dialog box shows Left Indent at 0.5" and a Hanging
Indent By 0.5".
For now I've just put a paragraph break after the word "are" at the end of
the first line and that works my indenting problem but the whole document
is full justified and that leaves a big blank space after the "are" and it
makes that word along the right margin uneven.
This is a legal document and has to look just right, can anyone help me out,
please?

Thanks in advance.

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Studebaker,

If you toggle the Pilcrow (the Paragraph symbol -- it looks like a P but
facing the opposite direction) so to reveal the invisible codes, what do you
see before and after "(f)"? (A tab character should look like an arrow -)

See: http://word.mvps.org/FAQS/Formatting/NonPrintChars.htm
The "Show/Hide" icon is a Pilcrow or Paragraph mark.

So, do you have:

(f) - (1) - All cash fees payable under ...

And then you want the next line to line up under the "A" of "All cash ..",
yes?

I got it to work with Indent 0.5" & Hanging Indent 1"

You wrote: if I try to change the left indent from 0.5" or the hanging
indent from 0.5" to anything else it will move the whole thing--the (f)
and/or the (1).

Why would changing the "hanging indent" change anything on the first line?
That does not make any sense. Unless the line before the line with (f) does
not end with a paragraph mark. So, again toggle on the Pilcrow (Paragraph
Mark), does the line before the line with "(f) - (1) - All cash ..." end
with a Paragraph mark?

Steven Craig Miller

"Studebaker" wrote:

Hello,

No, if I try to change the left indent from 0.5" or the hanging indent from
0.5" to anything else it will move the whole thing--the (f) and/or the (1). I
need them to stay stationary and the 2nd line of text to line up with the 1st
line of text.
Ex:
(f) (1) All cash fees payable under Subsections 2(a), 2(b), and 2(d)
above
shall be due and
If you or anyone could help, I would appreciate it!!

Thanks!

"StevenM" wrote:

"Studebaker" wrote: I need the 2nd line, "due and made payable...", to be
indented at Tab 1.5 underneath the 1st line, "All cash fees payable..." The
Paragraph Indentation dialog box shows Left Indent at 0.5" and a Hanging
Indent By 0.5".

I suspect there is a tab character in your first line, nonetheless, 0.5" +
0.5" is only 1.0" and not 1.5". If you set the hanging indent to 1", does
that solve your problem?

Steven Craig Miller

Hello,

I am working on a legal document someone else created. I can't get the 2nd
line in one of their paragraphs to indent like I need it to. the They have
the following sentence:

Tab 0.5 Tab 1.0 Tab 1.5
Tab 6.5
| | |
|
(f) (1) All cash fees payable under
Subsection 2(a) are
due and made payable at the closing, etc., etc.

I need the 2nd line, "due and made payable...", to be indented at Tab 1.5
underneath the 1st line, "All cash fees payable..."
The Paragraph Indentation dialog box shows Left Indent at 0.5" and a Hanging
Indent By 0.5".
For now I've just put a paragraph break after the word "are" at the end of
the first line and that works my indenting problem but the whole document
is full justified and that leaves a big blank space after the "are" and it
makes that word along the right margin uneven.
This is a legal document and has to look just right, can anyone help me out,
please?

Thanks in advance.

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Changing the hanging indent would change the first line because it (by
default) sets a tab stop at the position of the hanging indent, which then
overrides the built-in tab stops to the left of it. It will be necessary to
explicitly set a tab stop at 1" in order to make this work.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"StevenM" stevencraigmiller(at)comcast(dot)net wrote in message
...
Studebaker,

If you toggle the Pilcrow (the Paragraph symbol -- it looks like a P but
facing the opposite direction) so to reveal the invisible codes, what do
you
see before and after "(f)"? (A tab character should look like an arrow -)

See: http://word.mvps.org/FAQS/Formatting/NonPrintChars.htm
The "Show/Hide" icon is a Pilcrow or Paragraph mark.

So, do you have:

(f) - (1) - All cash fees payable under ...

And then you want the next line to line up under the "A" of "All cash ..",
yes?

I got it to work with Indent 0.5" & Hanging Indent 1"

You wrote: if I try to change the left indent from 0.5" or the hanging
indent from 0.5" to anything else it will move the whole thing--the (f)
and/or the (1).

Why would changing the "hanging indent" change anything on the first line?
That does not make any sense. Unless the line before the line with (f)
does
not end with a paragraph mark. So, again toggle on the Pilcrow (Paragraph
Mark), does the line before the line with "(f) - (1) - All cash ..." end
with a Paragraph mark?

Steven Craig Miller

"Studebaker" wrote:

Hello,

No, if I try to change the left indent from 0.5" or the hanging indent
from
0.5" to anything else it will move the whole thing--the (f) and/or the
(1). I
need them to stay stationary and the 2nd line of text to line up with the
1st
line of text.
Ex:
(f) (1) All cash fees payable under Subsections 2(a), 2(b), and
2(d)
above
shall be due and
If you or anyone could help, I would appreciate it!!

Thanks!

"StevenM" wrote:

"Studebaker" wrote: I need the 2nd line, "due and made payable...",
to be
indented at Tab 1.5 underneath the 1st line, "All cash fees payable..."
The
Paragraph Indentation dialog box shows Left Indent at 0.5" and a
Hanging
Indent By 0.5".

I suspect there is a tab character in your first line, nonetheless,
0.5" +
0.5" is only 1.0" and not 1.5". If you set the hanging indent to 1",
does
that solve your problem?

Steven Craig Miller

Hello,

I am working on a legal document someone else created. I can't get
the 2nd
line in one of their paragraphs to indent like I need it to. the They
have
the following sentence:

Tab 0.5 Tab 1.0 Tab 1.5
Tab 6.5
| | |
|
(f) (1) All cash fees payable under
Subsection 2(a) are
due and made payable at the closing, etc.,
etc.

I need the 2nd line, "due and made payable...", to be indented at Tab
1.5
underneath the 1st line, "All cash fees payable..."
The Paragraph Indentation dialog box shows Left Indent at 0.5" and a
Hanging
Indent By 0.5".
For now I've just put a paragraph break after the word "are" at the
end of
the first line and that works my indenting problem but the whole
document
is full justified and that leaves a big blank space after the "are"
and it
makes that word along the right margin uneven.
This is a legal document and has to look just right, can anyone help
me out,
please?

Thanks in advance.





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I have been using a tabstop at both 0.5" and 1" to attempt to replicate
Studebaker's situation, and my text was formatting as needed. But you're
right, the fist tab is not needed, only one at 1".

Steven Craig Miller

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Changing the hanging indent would change the first line because it (by
default) sets a tab stop at the position of the hanging indent, which then
overrides the built-in tab stops to the left of it. It will be necessary to
explicitly set a tab stop at 1" in order to make this work.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"StevenM" stevencraigmiller(at)comcast(dot)net wrote in message
...
Studebaker,

If you toggle the Pilcrow (the Paragraph symbol -- it looks like a P but
facing the opposite direction) so to reveal the invisible codes, what do
you
see before and after "(f)"? (A tab character should look like an arrow -)

See: http://word.mvps.org/FAQS/Formatting/NonPrintChars.htm
The "Show/Hide" icon is a Pilcrow or Paragraph mark.

So, do you have:

(f) - (1) - All cash fees payable under ...

And then you want the next line to line up under the "A" of "All cash ..",
yes?

I got it to work with Indent 0.5" & Hanging Indent 1"

You wrote: if I try to change the left indent from 0.5" or the hanging
indent from 0.5" to anything else it will move the whole thing--the (f)
and/or the (1).

Why would changing the "hanging indent" change anything on the first line?
That does not make any sense. Unless the line before the line with (f)
does
not end with a paragraph mark. So, again toggle on the Pilcrow (Paragraph
Mark), does the line before the line with "(f) - (1) - All cash ..." end
with a Paragraph mark?

Steven Craig Miller

"Studebaker" wrote:

Hello,

No, if I try to change the left indent from 0.5" or the hanging indent
from
0.5" to anything else it will move the whole thing--the (f) and/or the
(1). I
need them to stay stationary and the 2nd line of text to line up with the
1st
line of text.
Ex:
(f) (1) All cash fees payable under Subsections 2(a), 2(b), and
2(d)
above
shall be due and
If you or anyone could help, I would appreciate it!!

Thanks!

"StevenM" wrote:

"Studebaker" wrote: I need the 2nd line, "due and made payable...",
to be
indented at Tab 1.5 underneath the 1st line, "All cash fees payable..."
The
Paragraph Indentation dialog box shows Left Indent at 0.5" and a
Hanging
Indent By 0.5".

I suspect there is a tab character in your first line, nonetheless,
0.5" +
0.5" is only 1.0" and not 1.5". If you set the hanging indent to 1",
does
that solve your problem?

Steven Craig Miller

Hello,

I am working on a legal document someone else created. I can't get
the 2nd
line in one of their paragraphs to indent like I need it to. the They
have
the following sentence:

Tab 0.5 Tab 1.0 Tab 1.5
Tab 6.5
| | |
|
(f) (1) All cash fees payable under
Subsection 2(a) are
due and made payable at the closing, etc.,
etc.

I need the 2nd line, "due and made payable...", to be indented at Tab
1.5
underneath the 1st line, "All cash fees payable..."
The Paragraph Indentation dialog box shows Left Indent at 0.5" and a
Hanging
Indent By 0.5".
For now I've just put a paragraph break after the word "are" at the
end of
the first line and that works my indenting problem but the whole
document
is full justified and that leaves a big blank space after the "are"
and it
makes that word along the right margin uneven.
This is a legal document and has to look just right, can anyone help
me out,
please?

Thanks in advance.




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