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Old February 8th 08, 01:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
grammatim[_2_]
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Default Cursor doesn't "push" text forward

But then it would take lots of clicking to do what it does. It would
be better if it appeared only when I wanted it to. (Such as, not after
a Drag'n'Drop!)

On Feb 8, 12:00*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
FWIW, if the Paste Options button annoys you, you can disable it on the Edit
tab of Tools | Options.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
It only overrides if you replace one paragraph mark with another
paragraph mark. You might get stuff with the old formatting plopped
into the middle of the text you're pasting it into, but you fix that
either by keeping it selected and clicking on the style name, or with
that annoying button that appears whenever you paste something, which
has an option for taking on the formatting of the new context.

On Feb 7, 8:40 pm, Jimmy wrote:



Thanks for the reponse. I can't say I agree with you about Suzanne's
"precise" solution. I do a lot of copy and pasting of text into Word
documents. As soon as you paste text, it over-rides the special/hanging
and
everything goes back to the left margin, so I'm back to square one. I am
obviously not a student of Word, but it seems to have too many complicated
ways to do things that I think should be easier. If I was submitting
anything
I created using Word to an editor or typesetter, I would learn how to use
it
properly, but I'm far from that stage. I'm finished with this discussion..
Thanks everybody. Jimmy


"grammatim" wrote:
Suzanne diagnosed your solution precisely.


Go to Format | Paragraph | Indentation | Special | Hanging.


You can set this "hanging indent" in one of your styles, or it will be
followed in each successive paragraph until you select Normal style
again.


(Speaking as an editor and typesetter, it is a real nightmare when an
author tries to "format" paragraphs with spaces or tabs.)


On Feb 7, 5:04 pm, Jimmy wrote:
Dear Suzanne, thank you for your response. After a little more
experimenting
I think I was incorrect in stating that hitting the "enter" key before
the
"wrap" didn't allow me to "push" the next line. I know there is a
reason why
you can't push a wrapped line with the spacebar but I can't figure
what it
is. What difference does it make?! I used Herb's suggestion of
Ctrl+Sh+8 and
I could then see the space bar "dots" trail off into infinity and
beyond.
(Where do they go?!) Anyway, I may turn auto format back on and
experiment
with the margin and indent thing some more. I turned it off because
changing
numbers and doing other things was a big hassle and I don't use Word
enough
to remember the steps. I number my paragraphs 1.2.3....etc. All I am
trying
to do is make the lines past the first line be at about the same
indent as
the first line. It sounds easy (and maybe it is) but I can't seem to
figure
it out. I know. I know. Get "Word for Dummies". I'll tell you this
much, I'll
be using Herb's Ctrl+Sh+spacebar over-ride with reckless abandon.
What's not
to like? I can move my text where I want and it prints fine. Thanks
again.
Jimmy.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
You should be able to "push" the line with spaces after a paragraph
break
(or line break), but you can't do it after a normal line wrap
because the
spaces pile up at the end of the previous line. If you display
nonprinting
characters, you'll see how this works. There is a Compatibility
Option that
can change this ("Wrap trailing spaces to next line"), but I don't
really
advise using that. Instead, depending on what you are trying to do,
use a
hanging indent or some other spacing option.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"Jimmy" wrote in message
...
Dear Herb, thanks for the prompt reply. It is not an overtype
issue, which
I
have dealt with in the past. The text in front of the cursor is
not
getting
deleted. My issue is happening in a Word doc. I have Auto-format
turned
off.
I'll type an example:


1. This is a sample of what happens when I try to "push"
the word "the" forward in this sentence.


In the example above, if I were to type the first line until the
right
margin moved the text to the next line, or just pushed the "Enter"
key
after
"push" and then placed the blinking bar in front of the second
line
starting
word (the), the space bar would not advance the text forward. If I
placed
the
blinking cursor between the letters t and h in the word "the", I
could
then
push the h and all of the following text forward. Why can't I push
starting
at the beginning of the line? This is not a "corrupted" issue. It
has
bugged
me in Office XP and Office 2003 also. Why doesn't the space bar
work from
any
location?!?! Can I fix this? Thanks. Jimmy.


"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:


What happens when you press the space bar or type other text?
Does
existing
text in front of the cursor get deleted?


If so... then you're in Overtype mode. Press the Insert key to
toggle
Overtype off. There should be an indicator at the bottom of the
Word
window
in the status bar. You can also toggle Overtype on/off by
clicking that
indicator. If you don't see it, then right click the status bar
and
choose
Overtype.


--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog:http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web:http://www.herbtyson.com
"Jimmy" wrote in message
...
Hi. When I edit a Word doc and place the "blinking bar" in
front of a
line
of
text (on the left margin) why doesn't the space bar push the
text
forward?
If
I move the "blinking bar" after the first character in the
line, the
space
bar works. I have Word 2007 but it's the same in all versions
of Word.
Why
is
this? Is it possible to fix this so the space bar push text
from the
beginning of the line? Thank you.--

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  #12  
Old February 8th 08, 03:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Cursor doesn't "push" text forward

I agree that drag and drop shouldn't be considered "pasting." I have Paste
Options disabled because I think I would use it very rarely. The only time
it would probably be helpful is in tables (my first paste invariably seems
to nest a cell or table). Otherwise, my needs are usually pretty simple.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
But then it would take lots of clicking to do what it does. It would
be better if it appeared only when I wanted it to. (Such as, not after
a Drag'n'Drop!)

On Feb 8, 12:00 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
FWIW, if the Paste Options button annoys you, you can disable it on the
Edit
tab of Tools | Options.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
It only overrides if you replace one paragraph mark with another
paragraph mark. You might get stuff with the old formatting plopped
into the middle of the text you're pasting it into, but you fix that
either by keeping it selected and clicking on the style name, or with
that annoying button that appears whenever you paste something, which
has an option for taking on the formatting of the new context.

On Feb 7, 8:40 pm, Jimmy wrote:



Thanks for the reponse. I can't say I agree with you about Suzanne's
"precise" solution. I do a lot of copy and pasting of text into Word
documents. As soon as you paste text, it over-rides the special/hanging
and
everything goes back to the left margin, so I'm back to square one. I am
obviously not a student of Word, but it seems to have too many
complicated
ways to do things that I think should be easier. If I was submitting
anything
I created using Word to an editor or typesetter, I would learn how to
use
it
properly, but I'm far from that stage. I'm finished with this
discussion.
Thanks everybody. Jimmy


"grammatim" wrote:
Suzanne diagnosed your solution precisely.


Go to Format | Paragraph | Indentation | Special | Hanging.


You can set this "hanging indent" in one of your styles, or it will be
followed in each successive paragraph until you select Normal style
again.


(Speaking as an editor and typesetter, it is a real nightmare when an
author tries to "format" paragraphs with spaces or tabs.)


On Feb 7, 5:04 pm, Jimmy wrote:
Dear Suzanne, thank you for your response. After a little more
experimenting
I think I was incorrect in stating that hitting the "enter" key
before
the
"wrap" didn't allow me to "push" the next line. I know there is a
reason why
you can't push a wrapped line with the spacebar but I can't figure
what it
is. What difference does it make?! I used Herb's suggestion of
Ctrl+Sh+8 and
I could then see the space bar "dots" trail off into infinity and
beyond.
(Where do they go?!) Anyway, I may turn auto format back on and
experiment
with the margin and indent thing some more. I turned it off because
changing
numbers and doing other things was a big hassle and I don't use Word
enough
to remember the steps. I number my paragraphs 1.2.3....etc. All I am
trying
to do is make the lines past the first line be at about the same
indent as
the first line. It sounds easy (and maybe it is) but I can't seem to
figure
it out. I know. I know. Get "Word for Dummies". I'll tell you this
much, I'll
be using Herb's Ctrl+Sh+spacebar over-ride with reckless abandon.
What's not
to like? I can move my text where I want and it prints fine. Thanks
again.
Jimmy.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
You should be able to "push" the line with spaces after a
paragraph
break
(or line break), but you can't do it after a normal line wrap
because the
spaces pile up at the end of the previous line. If you display
nonprinting
characters, you'll see how this works. There is a Compatibility
Option that
can change this ("Wrap trailing spaces to next line"), but I don't
really
advise using that. Instead, depending on what you are trying to
do,
use a
hanging indent or some other spacing option.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"Jimmy" wrote in message
...
Dear Herb, thanks for the prompt reply. It is not an overtype
issue, which
I
have dealt with in the past. The text in front of the cursor is
not
getting
deleted. My issue is happening in a Word doc. I have Auto-format
turned
off.
I'll type an example:


1. This is a sample of what happens when I try to "push"
the word "the" forward in this sentence.


In the example above, if I were to type the first line until the
right
margin moved the text to the next line, or just pushed the
"Enter"
key
after
"push" and then placed the blinking bar in front of the second
line
starting
word (the), the space bar would not advance the text forward. If
I
placed
the
blinking cursor between the letters t and h in the word "the", I
could
then
push the h and all of the following text forward. Why can't I
push
starting
at the beginning of the line? This is not a "corrupted" issue.
It
has
bugged
me in Office XP and Office 2003 also. Why doesn't the space bar
work from
any
location?!?! Can I fix this? Thanks. Jimmy.


"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:


What happens when you press the space bar or type other text?
Does
existing
text in front of the cursor get deleted?


If so... then you're in Overtype mode. Press the Insert key to
toggle
Overtype off. There should be an indicator at the bottom of the
Word
window
in the status bar. You can also toggle Overtype on/off by
clicking that
indicator. If you don't see it, then right click the status bar
and
choose
Overtype.


--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog:http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web:http://www.herbtyson.com
"Jimmy" wrote in message
...
Hi. When I edit a Word doc and place the "blinking bar" in
front of a
line
of
text (on the left margin) why doesn't the space bar push the
text
forward?
If
I move the "blinking bar" after the first character in the
line, the
space
bar works. I have Word 2007 but it's the same in all versions
of Word.
Why
is
this? Is it possible to fix this so the space bar push text
from the
beginning of the line? Thank you.--



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Old August 3rd 17, 10:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
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Default Cursor doesn't "push" text forward

On Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 1:20:01 AM UTC+1, Jimmy wrote:
Hi. When I edit a Word doc and place the "blinking bar" in front of a line of
text (on the left margin) why doesn't the space bar push the text forward? If
I move the "blinking bar" after the first character in the line, the space
bar works. I have Word 2007 but it's the same in all versions of Word. Why is
this? Is it possible to fix this so the space bar push text from the
beginning of the line? Thank you.
Jimmy


Dear Jimmy:
You have received many learned suggestions, all of which I am sure are the elegant ways to solve your problem...but here's what I do: I put the cursor behind the first letter in line #2; press delete until the last letter in line #1 appears immediately behind the first letter in line #2; then I just press RETURN, and the space-bar will be able to move the entire line #2 to the right as much as I want!
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Default Cursor doesn't "push" text forward

Yes!!! Best answer ever and it works! Thanks :-)
 




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