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latin letter with accent and macron?
My wife is taking a latin class and I need to find an answer to this to keep
peace in the household. Some latin letters have both a macron and accent above them. I can't find a font letter that has this, found one but accent goes the wrong direction, so does anyone know a way to make this work? Todd |
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latin letter with accent and macron?
You can find vowels with macrons and breves in the Latin Extended-A
character set (I think you've already located these). Accented letters are in the same place. For letters with macron/breve *and* an accent, you may have to experiment with the Combining Diacritical Marks (for these you may have to use the Arial Unicode MS font) if you can't find them in Latin Extended Additional. For other methods of combining characters, see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm. FWIW, when I was teaching Latin, most beginning textbooks did use macrons as an aid to students, but I don't recall ever seeing one that had accent marks as well; we were expected to learn the rules for where the accent went. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Zoomnbyu" wrote in message ... My wife is taking a latin class and I need to find an answer to this to keep peace in the household. Some latin letters have both a macron and accent above them. I can't find a font letter that has this, found one but accent goes the wrong direction, so does anyone know a way to make this work? Todd |
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latin letter with accent and macron?
Suzanne, thank you very much. We'll give this a try.
Todd "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You can find vowels with macrons and breves in the Latin Extended-A character set (I think you've already located these). Accented letters are in the same place. For letters with macron/breve *and* an accent, you may have to experiment with the Combining Diacritical Marks (for these you may have to use the Arial Unicode MS font) if you can't find them in Latin Extended Additional. For other methods of combining characters, see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm. FWIW, when I was teaching Latin, most beginning textbooks did use macrons as an aid to students, but I don't recall ever seeing one that had accent marks as well; we were expected to learn the rules for where the accent went. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Zoomnbyu" wrote in message ... My wife is taking a latin class and I need to find an answer to this to keep peace in the household. Some latin letters have both a macron and accent above them. I can't find a font letter that has this, found one but accent goes the wrong direction, so does anyone know a way to make this work? Todd |
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latin letter with accent and macron?
If you display the "extended formatting" toolbar, that has a button to
insert emphasis marks. These marks don't come from the font, so you can use them with any font. They aren't (EQ) fields, either, BTW. By default, the emphasis mark is a black dot/circle above the letter (command "DotAccent"). There's also "CommaAccent" command that inserts a "comma" above any letter (looking like a curved "grave" accent), which you can add to some toolbar. With VBA, you can also insert a white circle emphasis mark above, or a dot below the letter. Not sure that any of this would work for your purposes though... Regards, Klaus "Zoomnbyu" wrote: Suzanne, thank you very much. We'll give this a try. Todd "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You can find vowels with macrons and breves in the Latin Extended-A character set (I think you've already located these). Accented letters are in the same place. For letters with macron/breve *and* an accent, you may have to experiment with the Combining Diacritical Marks (for these you may have to use the Arial Unicode MS font) if you can't find them in Latin Extended Additional. For other methods of combining characters, see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm. FWIW, when I was teaching Latin, most beginning textbooks did use macrons as an aid to students, but I don't recall ever seeing one that had accent marks as well; we were expected to learn the rules for where the accent went. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Zoomnbyu" wrote in message ... My wife is taking a latin class and I need to find an answer to this to keep peace in the household. Some latin letters have both a macron and accent above them. I can't find a font letter that has this, found one but accent goes the wrong direction, so does anyone know a way to make this work? Todd |
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You could experiment with the different emphasis marks using the macro
below. Regards, Klaus Sub ToggleEmphasisMarks() ' Puts emphasis mark(s) on selected letter(s), or removes them Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkUnderSolidCircle ' other wdEmphasisMark constants to try: ' Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkOverComma ' Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkOverSolidCircle ' Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkOverWhiteCircle If Selection.Font.EmphasisMark = c_Emphasis Then Selection.Font.EmphasisMark = wdEmphasisMarkNone Else Selection.Font.EmphasisMark = c_Emphasis End If End Sub |
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latin letter with accent and macron?
I don't think any of those would be an acceptable substitute for either a
macron or an acute accent. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Klaus Linke" wrote in message ... You could experiment with the different emphasis marks using the macro below. Regards, Klaus Sub ToggleEmphasisMarks() ' Puts emphasis mark(s) on selected letter(s), or removes them Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkUnderSolidCircle ' other wdEmphasisMark constants to try: ' Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkOverComma ' Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkOverSolidCircle ' Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkOverWhiteCircle If Selection.Font.EmphasisMark = c_Emphasis Then Selection.Font.EmphasisMark = wdEmphasisMarkNone Else Selection.Font.EmphasisMark = c_Emphasis End If End Sub |
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latin letter with accent and macron?
As I said, it depends on what it's supposed to mean.
I had a publisher who wanted a macron over arbitrary letters (vowels) to denote long vowels, and she settled for the dot below because that was easier to do in Word. Klaus "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I don't think any of those would be an acceptable substitute for either a macron or an acute accent. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Klaus Linke" wrote in message ... You could experiment with the different emphasis marks using the macro below. Regards, Klaus Sub ToggleEmphasisMarks() ' Puts emphasis mark(s) on selected letter(s), or removes them Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkUnderSolidCircle ' other wdEmphasisMark constants to try: ' Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkOverComma ' Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkOverSolidCircle ' Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkOverWhiteCircle If Selection.Font.EmphasisMark = c_Emphasis Then Selection.Font.EmphasisMark = wdEmphasisMarkNone Else Selection.Font.EmphasisMark = c_Emphasis End If End Sub |
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latin letter with accent and macron?
I can't imagine that a dot below would mean the same thing to Latin students
as a macron above, especially if the latter is what they're seeing in their textbooks, but I'll accept your suggestion as one that worked for you. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Klaus Linke" wrote in message ... As I said, it depends on what it's supposed to mean. I had a publisher who wanted a macron over arbitrary letters (vowels) to denote long vowels, and she settled for the dot below because that was easier to do in Word. Klaus "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I don't think any of those would be an acceptable substitute for either a macron or an acute accent. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Klaus Linke" wrote in message ... You could experiment with the different emphasis marks using the macro below. Regards, Klaus Sub ToggleEmphasisMarks() ' Puts emphasis mark(s) on selected letter(s), or removes them Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkUnderSolidCircle ' other wdEmphasisMark constants to try: ' Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkOverComma ' Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkOverSolidCircle ' Const c_Emphasis As Long = wdEmphasisMarkOverWhiteCircle If Selection.Font.EmphasisMark = c_Emphasis Then Selection.Font.EmphasisMark = wdEmphasisMarkNone Else Selection.Font.EmphasisMark = c_Emphasis End If End Sub |
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latin letter with accent and macron?
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
I can't imagine that a dot below would mean the same thing to Latin students as a macron above, especially if the latter is what they're seeing in their textbooks, but I'll accept your suggestion as one that worked for you. It was an Italian text book. I don't know the first thing about Latin, and you're surely right that my suggestion was off base for Todd. Regards, Klaus |
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