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I have a "table" in plain text like this:
1. [name] [surname] 0:36:27 2. [another name] [and surname] 0:46:27 3. [third name] [and surname] 1:03:42 4. [and so one...] 2:04:18 Whe - After the order number there is an empty space - Between [name] [surname] there is an empty space - Between [surname] [time] there are empty spaces and/or tab characters. Is there a simple way to convert it to a table (I don't know VBA)? -- Please remove hyphens to contact me ----- --- -- -- - geotso ----- --- -- -- - |
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Are the names in square brackets?
Are the numbers at the start of each line included? In the meantime see http://www.gmayor.com/convert_labels...mail_merge.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org geotso wrote: I have a "table" in plain text like this: 1. [name] [surname] 0:36:27 2. [another name] [and surname] 0:46:27 3. [third name] [and surname] 1:03:42 4. [and so one...] 2:04:18 Whe - After the order number there is an empty space - Between [name] [surname] there is an empty space - Between [surname] [time] there are empty spaces and/or tab characters. Is there a simple way to convert it to a table (I don't know VBA)? |
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then, "Graham Mayor" climbed to the rostrum and said:
Are the names in square brackets? No. Just in my sample only Are the numbers at the start of each line included? Yes In the meantime see http://www.gmayor.com/convert_labels...mail_merge.htm I'm going there right now! |
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I would start by using wildcards to replace any number of spaces with a tab,
then use Table | Convert | Table to Text, separating at tabs. If the Replace operation results in multiple tabs between elements, replace those with a single tab before converting. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "geotso" wrote in message ... I have a "table" in plain text like this: 1. [name] [surname] 0:36:27 2. [another name] [and surname] 0:46:27 3. [third name] [and surname] 1:03:42 4. [and so one...] 2:04:18 Whe - After the order number there is an empty space - Between [name] [surname] there is an empty space - Between [surname] [time] there are empty spaces and/or tab characters. Is there a simple way to convert it to a table (I don't know VBA)? -- Please remove hyphens to contact me ----- --- -- -- - geotso ----- --- -- -- - |
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Just to clarify Suzanne's advice...
After the replace, you will see the list looking like: [1.] tab [name] tab [surname] tab [0:36:27] return Then when you select the list and use convert Text to Table choosing the TAB as the separator, you will have a four column table. If you need the empty space afterwards, you simply select the column to the right and chose Insert, Column to the Left (or vice versa). BTW, if you are ever going to place the table in a spreadsheet, you should consider changing your order numbering system because it may be confused as the standard time format (hours:minutes:seconds): it certainly confused me at first glance. Terry "geotso" wrote in message ... I have a "table" in plain text like this: 1. [name] [surname] 0:36:27 2. [another name] [and surname] 0:46:27 3. [third name] [and surname] 1:03:42 4. [and so one...] 2:04:18 Whe - After the order number there is an empty space - Between [name] [surname] there is an empty space - Between [surname] [time] there are empty spaces and/or tab characters. Is there a simple way to convert it to a table (I don't know VBA)? -- Please remove hyphens to contact me ----- --- -- -- - geotso ----- --- -- -- - |
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then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said:
I would start by using wildcards to replace any number of spaces with a tab, And what is the expression for this, please? I've tried " {2,}" (no quotes - starting empty space) and Word (2007) warns me that the expression is not valid. then use Table | Convert | Table to Text, separating at tabs. If the Replace operation results in multiple tabs between elements, replace those with a single tab before converting. Once again, what is the expression for "multiple tabs"? I've tried "^t{2,}" (no quotes) with the same as above results... Thank you very much |
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This works for me provided I remember to check the "Use wildcards" box.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "geotso" wrote in message ... then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said: I would start by using wildcards to replace any number of spaces with a tab, And what is the expression for this, please? I've tried " {2,}" (no quotes - starting empty space) and Word (2007) warns me that the expression is not valid. then use Table | Convert | Table to Text, separating at tabs. If the Replace operation results in multiple tabs between elements, replace those with a single tab before converting. Once again, what is the expression for "multiple tabs"? I've tried "^t{2,}" (no quotes) with the same as above results... Thank you very much |
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:23:26 +0200, geotso wrote:
then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said: I would start by using wildcards to replace any number of spaces with a tab, And what is the expression for this, please? I've tried " {2,}" (no quotes - starting empty space) and Word (2007) warns me that the expression is not valid. That expression works in my copy of Word 2007, and it should work in yours. If you can't make it work, then try surrounding the space character (but not the {2,}) in square brackets: [ ]{2,} Also, in your initial post you mentioned that the name and time may be separated by an assortment of spaces and tabs. You can replace the whole lot in one wildcard search by using the expression [ ^9]{2,} That is, the space is still in the brackets, plus the numeric code for a tab character (see http://www.gmayor.com/replace_using_wildcards.htm for a list of codes). then use Table | Convert | Table to Text, separating at tabs. If the Replace operation results in multiple tabs between elements, replace those with a single tab before converting. Once again, what is the expression for "multiple tabs"? I've tried "^t{2,}" (no quotes) with the same as above results... Thank you very much To search for multiple tabs, use an expression like the one above with the ^9 code, but leave out the space character. As explained in Graham's article, codes such as ^t and ^p don't work in the Find What box of a wildcard search, only in the Replace With box (and in both boxes for a non-wildcard search). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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I also tried [ ]{2,} and found it didn't work because I'd forgotten to check
"Use wildcards." When I did check it, the expression worked without the brackets, and it's all too easy to get so wrapped up in figuring out the right search term that you forget to check the box; I'm guessing that's the OP did. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Jay Freedman" wrote in message news On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:23:26 +0200, geotso wrote: then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said: I would start by using wildcards to replace any number of spaces with a tab, And what is the expression for this, please? I've tried " {2,}" (no quotes - starting empty space) and Word (2007) warns me that the expression is not valid. That expression works in my copy of Word 2007, and it should work in yours. If you can't make it work, then try surrounding the space character (but not the {2,}) in square brackets: [ ]{2,} Also, in your initial post you mentioned that the name and time may be separated by an assortment of spaces and tabs. You can replace the whole lot in one wildcard search by using the expression [ ^9]{2,} That is, the space is still in the brackets, plus the numeric code for a tab character (see http://www.gmayor.com/replace_using_wildcards.htm for a list of codes). then use Table | Convert | Table to Text, separating at tabs. If the Replace operation results in multiple tabs between elements, replace those with a single tab before converting. Once again, what is the expression for "multiple tabs"? I've tried "^t{2,}" (no quotes) with the same as above results... Thank you very much To search for multiple tabs, use an expression like the one above with the ^9 code, but leave out the space character. As explained in Graham's article, codes such as ^t and ^p don't work in the Find What box of a wildcard search, only in the Replace With box (and in both boxes for a non-wildcard search). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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If you use a wildcard expression but forget to check the "Use wildcards" box, it
simply won't find anything. But if the box is checked and the expression isn't correctly formed according to the wildcard rules, then you get a message box saying that the search expression isn't valid. From geotso's post, I gathered that he saw the message box. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:17:34 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I also tried [ ]{2,} and found it didn't work because I'd forgotten to check "Use wildcards." When I did check it, the expression worked without the brackets, and it's all too easy to get so wrapped up in figuring out the right search term that you forget to check the box; I'm guessing that's the OP did. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Jay Freedman" wrote in message news On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:23:26 +0200, geotso wrote: then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said: I would start by using wildcards to replace any number of spaces with a tab, And what is the expression for this, please? I've tried " {2,}" (no quotes - starting empty space) and Word (2007) warns me that the expression is not valid. That expression works in my copy of Word 2007, and it should work in yours. If you can't make it work, then try surrounding the space character (but not the {2,}) in square brackets: [ ]{2,} Also, in your initial post you mentioned that the name and time may be separated by an assortment of spaces and tabs. You can replace the whole lot in one wildcard search by using the expression [ ^9]{2,} That is, the space is still in the brackets, plus the numeric code for a tab character (see http://www.gmayor.com/replace_using_wildcards.htm for a list of codes). then use Table | Convert | Table to Text, separating at tabs. If the Replace operation results in multiple tabs between elements, replace those with a single tab before converting. Once again, what is the expression for "multiple tabs"? I've tried "^t{2,}" (no quotes) with the same as above results... Thank you very much To search for multiple tabs, use an expression like the one above with the ^9 code, but leave out the space character. As explained in Graham's article, codes such as ^t and ^p don't work in the Find What box of a wildcard search, only in the Replace With box (and in both boxes for a non-wildcard search). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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That expression works in my copy of Word 2007, and it should work in yours. If you can't make it work, then try surrounding the space character (but not the {2,}) in square brackets: [ ]{2,} It definitely doesn't work I've tried both suggestions, to no avail... I've also turned on the "Show all formatting marks" just in case I was wrong about the empty spaces, and they was really there! I counted 13 dot marks just between the first surname and his time. I've also tried the ^s character (non-breaking space), just to receive the same disappointing error message |
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How very odd! Failing wild cards, you can always just search for two spaces
repeatedly until Find returns no results. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "geotso" wrote in message ... That expression works in my copy of Word 2007, and it should work in yours. If you can't make it work, then try surrounding the space character (but not the {2,}) in square brackets: [ ]{2,} It definitely doesn't work I've tried both suggestions, to no avail... I've also turned on the "Show all formatting marks" just in case I was wrong about the empty spaces, and they was really there! I counted 13 dot marks just between the first surname and his time. I've also tried the ^s character (non-breaking space), just to receive the same disappointing error message |
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then, "Jay Freedman" climbed to the rostrum and said:
If you use a wildcard expression but forget to check the "Use wildcards" box, it simply won't find anything. But if the box is checked and the expression isn't correctly formed according to the wildcard rules, then you get a message box saying that the search expression isn't valid. From geotso's post, I gathered that he saw the message box. I do see the message box, as you said, and I'm pretty sure I check the "use wildcards" checkbox! |
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then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said:
How very odd! Failing wild cards, you can always just search for two spaces repeatedly until Find returns no results. As I said, I've counted 13 empty spaces just in the first row of the list. Given that the list consists of 364 rows, could you please tell me how many "two spaces repeatedly" should I found to complete the search? Furthermore, the problem isn't just the amount of time I'll need for the specific task. The problem is why the wildcards don't work for me, while they do work for Jay and Suzanne? |
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I would actually start by searching for 13 spaces. When all these have been
converted to tabs, search for 12 spaces, and so on. This should require only a dozen passes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "geotso" wrote in message ... then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said: How very odd! Failing wild cards, you can always just search for two spaces repeatedly until Find returns no results. As I said, I've counted 13 empty spaces just in the first row of the list. Given that the list consists of 364 rows, could you please tell me how many "two spaces repeatedly" should I found to complete the search? Furthermore, the problem isn't just the amount of time I'll need for the specific task. The problem is why the wildcards don't work for me, while they do work for Jay and Suzanne? |
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then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said:
I would actually start by searching for 13 spaces. When all these have been converted to tabs, search for 12 spaces, and so on. This should require only a dozen passes. even so, WILDCARDS DON'T WORK... (Sorry for I'm yelling, but I'm really mad right now!) Following your suggestion I made these replacements: Replace all spaces/tabs occurrences with the string "zzz" (no quotes). So, I finally end up with something like this: 1. [name] [surname]zzzzzzzzzzzz[time] 2. [other name] [other surname]zzz[time] 3. [and so on]zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz[time] Then, I tried to replace z{3,} with ^t (and yes, the "use wildcards" was checked*)... Guess what? The same ugly "invalid expression" message box! The solution: - Give up (or should I say through away?) Word and use UltraEdit Text Editor instead! |
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- Give up (or should I say through away?)
ooops! it should be throw away! Awful english - awful mood! |
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No, for the search I'm describing, you don't need wildcards. Just search
(without wildcards) for 13 spaces and replace with a tab. Then search for 12 spaces and replace with a tab. Alternatively, if there are no spaces within the names you want in separate cells, you can just search for ^w (white space) and replace with ^t. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "geotso" wrote in message ... then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said: I would actually start by searching for 13 spaces. When all these have been converted to tabs, search for 12 spaces, and so on. This should require only a dozen passes. even so, WILDCARDS DON'T WORK... (Sorry for I'm yelling, but I'm really mad right now!) Following your suggestion I made these replacements: Replace all spaces/tabs occurrences with the string "zzz" (no quotes). So, I finally end up with something like this: 1. [name] [surname]zzzzzzzzzzzz[time] 2. [other name] [other surname]zzz[time] 3. [and so on]zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz[time] Then, I tried to replace z{3,} with ^t (and yes, the "use wildcards" was checked*)... Guess what? The same ugly "invalid expression" message box! The solution: - Give up (or should I say through away?) Word and use UltraEdit Text Editor instead! |
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Send me a sample of the document to the link on my web site so that I can
check that we are all singing from the same hymn sheet, however in the meantime try a search for ([0-9]{1,}.)[ ]{1,}([A-Za-z]{1,})[ ]{1,}([A-Za-z]{1,})[ ^0160^t]{1,}([0-9]) replace with \1^t\2^t\3^t\4 with the wildcard option set. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org geotso wrote: - Give up (or should I say through away?) ooops! it should be throw away! Awful english - awful mood! |
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then, "Graham Mayor" climbed to the rostrum and said:
Send me a sample of the document to the link on my web site so that I can you (and everyone) can get it from he http://geotso.com/sample.aspx check that we are all singing from the same hymn sheet, however in the meantime try a search for ([0-9]{1,}.)[ ]{1,}([A-Za-z]{1,})[ ]{1,}([A-Za-z]{1,})[ ^0160^t]{1,}([0-9]) replace with \1^t\2^t\3^t\4 with the wildcard option set. The same "invalid expression" message box |
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Are you using English regional settings? If not you will probably have to
use separators associated with your local region. In particular some languages require a semi colon in place of a comma. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org geotso wrote: then, "Graham Mayor" climbed to the rostrum and said: Send me a sample of the document to the link on my web site so that I can you (and everyone) can get it from he http://geotso.com/sample.aspx check that we are all singing from the same hymn sheet, however in the meantime try a search for ([0-9]{1,}.)[ ]{1,}([A-Za-z]{1,})[ ]{1,}([A-Za-z]{1,})[ ^0160^t]{1,}([0-9]) replace with \1^t\2^t\3^t\4 with the wildcard option set. The same "invalid expression" message box |
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I've looked at your document and there is no need for any of this
complication at all. Just use the Replace dialog to Find: ^w and Replace ^t. No Wildcard needed. Multiple tabs are recognized as whites space as are the single and multiple manual spaces. So a single pass does exactly what you need. Once you have done this, go through the document again before creating the table to correct the few errors where spaces were missing or an extra space has been added. These are easy to spot and there are only a few: it will be easier to correct before conversion than after conversion. Once you are happy with it, select the list and use the Text to Table conversion. If you have missed a mistake (a missing or extra tab) and the table looks wrong, use UNDO immediately to revert back to the text list to correct the error before using the Text to Table again. -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "geotso" wrote in message ... then, "Graham Mayor" climbed to the rostrum and said: Send me a sample of the document to the link on my web site so that I can you (and everyone) can get it from he http://geotso.com/sample.aspx check that we are all singing from the same hymn sheet, however in the meantime try a search for ([0-9]{1,}.)[ ]{1,}([A-Za-z]{1,})[ ]{1,}([A-Za-z]{1,})[ ^0160^t]{1,}([0-9]) replace with \1^t\2^t\3^t\4 with the wildcard option set. The same "invalid expression" message box |
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then, "Graham Mayor" climbed to the rostrum and said:
Are you using English regional settings? If not you will probably have to use separators associated with your local region. In particular some languages require a semi colon in place of a comma. my goodness!!! That's it!!! Thank you, thank you, and thank you!!! (Not to mention how much I thank you!!!) |
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then, "Terry Farrell" climbed to the rostrum and said:
I've looked at your document and there is no need for any of this complication at all. Just use the Replace dialog to Find: ^w and Replace ^t. No Wildcard needed. I've tried it and it works just fine. Thank you very much! However, Graham's last post was the real answer on why wildcards expressions don't work in my Word, and that's why he owns more thanks than you! |
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You are welcome
Glad we got to the bottom of the problem. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org geotso wrote: then, "Graham Mayor" climbed to the rostrum and said: Are you using English regional settings? If not you will probably have to use separators associated with your local region. In particular some languages require a semi colon in place of a comma. my goodness!!! That's it!!! Thank you, thank you, and thank you!!! (Not to mention how much I thank you!!!) |
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I'm not at all jealous in any way!
Terry "geotso" wrote in message ... then, "Terry Farrell" climbed to the rostrum and said: I've looked at your document and there is no need for any of this complication at all. Just use the Replace dialog to Find: ^w and Replace ^t. No Wildcard needed. I've tried it and it works just fine. Thank you very much! However, Graham's last post was the real answer on why wildcards expressions don't work in my Word, and that's why he owns more thanks than you! |
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I should have twigged this earlier on, but your English was so good that it
was only in the last post or two that I began to wonder if you were somewhere exotic. g -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "geotso" wrote in message ... then, "Graham Mayor" climbed to the rostrum and said: Are you using English regional settings? If not you will probably have to use separators associated with your local region. In particular some languages require a semi colon in place of a comma. my goodness!!! That's it!!! Thank you, thank you, and thank you!!! (Not to mention how much I thank you!!!) |
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OT: How is this?
It seems that OE you use as newsreader, adds a header "X-RFC2646:
Format=Flowed; Response" in your posts (Graham's post, too) that prevents my Thunderbird from including the previous messages, along with my answer, when I post back to you (or to Graham). Could you please tell me how you edit the headers in OE, or it's a server-side setting? Thank you and sorry for the off-topic post... |
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How is this?
I'm afraid I have no expertise in this area, but at least it explains your
failure to quote. I'm using OE out of the box, with no special settings or editing of the header. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "geotso" wrote in message ... It seems that OE you use as newsreader, adds a header "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response" in your posts (Graham's post, too) that prevents my Thunderbird from including the previous messages, along with my answer, when I post back to you (or to Graham). Could you please tell me how you edit the headers in OE, or it's a server-side setting? Thank you and sorry for the off-topic post... |
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How is this?
Hi Geotso,
Thunderbird usually doesn't have an issue with that. In Thunderbird check in Tools=Account Settings=Composition & Addressing to see if you've turned on the option to 'Automatically quote the original message when replying' In viewing your message in Thunderbird it's showing Greek (ISO-8859-7) for text encoding. In viewing in Outlook Express it shows Western Europe (Windows) but changing didn't stop Thunderbird from including the original message in the reply. ============== "geotso" wrote in message ... It seems that OE you use as newsreader, adds a header "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response" in your posts (Graham's post, too) that prevents my Thunderbird from including the previous messages, along with my answer, when I post back to you (or to Graham). Could you please tell me how you edit the headers in OE, or it's a server-side setting? Thank you and sorry for the off-topic post... -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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How is this?
When I reply to geotso, my default encoding is Greek; I changed it to
Western European (Windows) for my latest reply just in case that might make any difference. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote in message ... Hi Geotso, Thunderbird usually doesn't have an issue with that. In Thunderbird check in Tools=Account Settings=Composition & Addressing to see if you've turned on the option to 'Automatically quote the original message when replying' In viewing your message in Thunderbird it's showing Greek (ISO-8859-7) for text encoding. In viewing in Outlook Express it shows Western Europe (Windows) but changing didn't stop Thunderbird from including the original message in the reply. ============== "geotso" wrote in message ... It seems that OE you use as newsreader, adds a header "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response" in your posts (Graham's post, too) that prevents my Thunderbird from including the previous messages, along with my answer, when I post back to you (or to Graham). Could you please tell me how you edit the headers in OE, or it's a server-side setting? Thank you and sorry for the off-topic post... -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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How is this?
then, "Bob Buckland ?:-)" climbed to the rostrum and said:
Hi Geotso, Thunderbird usually doesn't have an issue with that. In Thunderbird check in Tools=Account Settings=Composition & Addressing to see if you've turned on the option to 'Automatically quote the original message when replying' It's turned on alright. After all, as you can see, in this answer TB does quotes the original messages; and that's because (in my opinion) in your message's source there isn't the reference "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response". In viewing your message in Thunderbird it's showing Greek (ISO-8859-7) for text encoding. In viewing in Outlook Express it shows Western Europe (Windows) but changing didn't stop Thunderbird from including the original message in the reply. That confirms once again that the problem is in the reference I said and not anywhere else... ============== "geotso" wrote in message ... It seems that OE you use as newsreader, adds a header "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response" in your posts (Graham's post, too) that prevents my Thunderbird from including the previous messages, along with my answer, when I post back to you (or to Graham). Could you please tell me how you edit the headers in OE, or it's a server-side setting? Thank you and sorry for the off-topic post... |
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I note that in the reply in which I changed the format from Greek to Western
European, the header says "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original." See what happens if you reply to that one. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "geotso" wrote in message ... then, "Bob Buckland ?:-)" climbed to the rostrum and said: Hi Geotso, Thunderbird usually doesn't have an issue with that. In Thunderbird check in Tools=Account Settings=Composition & Addressing to see if you've turned on the option to 'Automatically quote the original message when replying' It's turned on alright. After all, as you can see, in this answer TB does quotes the original messages; and that's because (in my opinion) in your message's source there isn't the reference "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response". In viewing your message in Thunderbird it's showing Greek (ISO-8859-7) for text encoding. In viewing in Outlook Express it shows Western Europe (Windows) but changing didn't stop Thunderbird from including the original message in the reply. That confirms once again that the problem is in the reference I said and not anywhere else... ============== "geotso" wrote in message ... It seems that OE you use as newsreader, adds a header "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response" in your posts (Graham's post, too) that prevents my Thunderbird from including the previous messages, along with my answer, when I post back to you (or to Graham). Could you please tell me how you edit the headers in OE, or it's a server-side setting? Thank you and sorry for the off-topic post... |
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then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said:
I note that in the reply in which I changed the format from Greek to Western European, the header says "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original." See what happens if you reply to that one. I'm afraid the same (I was already aware that this reference acts the same way, but I hadn't mentioned it till now, as it doesn't appear in the current situation -the posts I've mentioned as example). Well, thank you very much for your time. As about the problem I'll see what can I do with the guys from Mozilla/Thunderbird discussion group, where I've posted the problem too. Thanks again... |
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It may well have to do with OE's nonconforming use of the -- for signatures.
I forget the details, but there's possibly something about an extra space after the hyphens signaling the end of the message? I've removed the space from this message. Does that make a difference? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "geotso" wrote in message ... then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said: I note that in the reply in which I changed the format from Greek to Western European, the header says "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original." See what happens if you reply to that one. I'm afraid the same (I was already aware that this reference acts the same way, but I hadn't mentioned it till now, as it doesn't appear in the current situation -the posts I've mentioned as example). Well, thank you very much for your time. As about the problem I'll see what can I do with the guys from Mozilla/Thunderbird discussion group, where I've posted the problem too. Thanks again... |
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Hi Geotso,
In using thunderbird I don't have a problem replying to messages that have the RFC2646 reference in the heading. ============ "geotso" wrote in message ... I'm afraid the same (I was already aware that this reference acts the same way, but I hadn't mentioned it till now, as it doesn't appear in the current situation -the posts I've mentioned as example). Well, thank you very much for your time. As about the problem I'll see what can I do with the guys from Mozilla/Thunderbird discussion group, where I've posted the problem too. Thanks again... -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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wow!
I have never heard about it before! And yes! that's it! then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said: It may well have to do with OE's nonconforming use of the -- for signatures. I forget the details, but there's possibly something about an extra space after the hyphens signaling the end of the message? I've removed the space from this message. Does that make a difference? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "geotso" wrote in message ... then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said: I note that in the reply in which I changed the format from Greek to Western European, the header says "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original." See what happens if you reply to that one. I'm afraid the same (I was already aware that this reference acts the same way, but I hadn't mentioned it till now, as it doesn't appear in the current situation -the posts I've mentioned as example). Well, thank you very much for your time. As about the problem I'll see what can I do with the guys from Mozilla/Thunderbird discussion group, where I've posted the problem too. Thanks again... -- Please remove hyphens to contact me ----- --- -- -- - geotso ----- --- -- -- - |
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Well, short of remembering to remove the space from the signature every time
I post (or using a different newsreader), I don't guess there's much I can do; this is a "bug" in OE that the OE MVPs have been hammering MS about for years. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "geotso" wrote in message ... wow! I have never heard about it before! And yes! that's it! then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said: It may well have to do with OE's nonconforming use of the -- for signatures. I forget the details, but there's possibly something about an extra space after the hyphens signaling the end of the message? I've removed the space from this message. Does that make a difference? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "geotso" wrote in message ... then, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" climbed to the rostrum and said: I note that in the reply in which I changed the format from Greek to Western European, the header says "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original." See what happens if you reply to that one. I'm afraid the same (I was already aware that this reference acts the same way, but I hadn't mentioned it till now, as it doesn't appear in the current situation -the posts I've mentioned as example). Well, thank you very much for your time. As about the problem I'll see what can I do with the guys from Mozilla/Thunderbird discussion group, where I've posted the problem too. Thanks again... -- Please remove hyphens to contact me ----- --- -- -- - geotso ----- --- -- -- - |
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Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Well, short of remembering to remove the space from the signature every time I post (or using a different newsreader), I don't guess there's much I can do; this is a "bug" in OE that the OE MVPs have been hammering MS about for years. Cured with OEQuotefix AFAIR.... |
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then, "Gordon" climbed to the rostrum and said:
Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: Well, short of remembering to remove the space from the signature every time I post (or using a different newsreader), I don't guess there's much I can do; this is a "bug" in OE that the OE MVPs have been hammering MS about for years. Cured with OEQuotefix AFAIR.... which, is only used (as far as I can presume from my experience) by less than 1% of the OE users. The good news are that Windows mail (Vista) isn't infected from the disease (at least in this area ) |
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