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Overriding paragraph font
I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font
for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Overriding paragraph font
If you insert the symbol using the Insert | Symbol dialog, Word will insert
it in a protected fashion. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Vadose" wrote in message ... I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Overriding paragraph font
If you insert the symbol using the Insert | Symbol dialog, Word will insert
it in a protected fashion. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Vadose" wrote in message ... I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Overriding paragraph font
Is there a preference I can uncheck or something? Requiring use of the dialog
is silly for someone who needs to insert a bunch of these. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: If you insert the symbol using the Insert | Symbol dialog, Word will insert it in a protected fashion. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Vadose" wrote in message ... I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. . |
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Overriding paragraph font
Is there a preference I can uncheck or something? Requiring use of the dialog
is silly for someone who needs to insert a bunch of these. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: If you insert the symbol using the Insert | Symbol dialog, Word will insert it in a protected fashion. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Vadose" wrote in message ... I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. . |
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Overriding paragraph font
Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical
characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13*pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Overriding paragraph font
Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical
characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13*pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Overriding paragraph font
Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science.
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. . |
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Overriding paragraph font
Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. . |
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Query for Bob Mathews Overriding paragraph font
If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have
answered! On Feb 10, 12:23*pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Query for Bob Mathews Overriding paragraph font
If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have
answered! On Feb 10, 12:23*pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Query for Bob Mathews Overriding paragraph font
Was that supposed to be helpful?
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote: If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have answered! On Feb 10, 12:23 pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. . |
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Query for Bob Mathews Overriding paragraph font
Was that supposed to be helpful?
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote: If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have answered! On Feb 10, 12:23 pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. . |
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Query for Bob Mathews Overriding paragraph font
LOL -- Yep; I found it. Not sure how much help I'll be though. We'll
see. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 10-Feb-2010, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have answered! On Feb 10, 12:23*pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Query for Bob Mathews Overriding paragraph font
LOL -- Yep; I found it. Not sure how much help I'll be though. We'll
see. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 10-Feb-2010, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have answered! On Feb 10, 12:23*pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Query for Bob Mathews Overriding paragraph font
Well, she did address the post to Bob Mathews of Design Science.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have answered! On Feb 10, 12:23 pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Query for Bob Mathews Overriding paragraph font
Well, she did address the post to Bob Mathews of Design Science. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have answered! On Feb 10, 12:23 pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Overriding paragraph font
Hey there Vadose,
Back in the day, fonts had to do their thing with a maximum of 256 characters in a font (8-bit fonts). Fonts had mappings based on their encoding. Some encodings were standardized, such as Times-Roman (Latin), Symbol, and Dingbats. When 16-bit fonts were introduced, that increased the maximum to 65K characters per font, though a font might use only a few thousand (or much less) of those characters. Other encodings were introduced, but finally Unicode came around, which provided a standard "everyone" agreed to. So, what does that mean in the real world? That means that fonts that have been around a while, like Symbol and Euclid Symbol, still have the old character mappings, BUT that doesn't necessarily mean they can't be used side-by-side with newer 16-bit Unicode fonts. Let's take for example the Greek lower-case pi character -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 10-Feb-2010, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Hey there Vadose,
Back in the day, fonts had to do their thing with a maximum of 256 characters in a font (8-bit fonts). Fonts had mappings based on their encoding. Some encodings were standardized, such as Times-Roman (Latin), Symbol, and Dingbats. When 16-bit fonts were introduced, that increased the maximum to 65K characters per font, though a font might use only a few thousand (or much less) of those characters. Other encodings were introduced, but finally Unicode came around, which provided a standard "everyone" agreed to. So, what does that mean in the real world? That means that fonts that have been around a while, like Symbol and Euclid Symbol, still have the old character mappings, BUT that doesn't necessarily mean they can't be used side-by-side with newer 16-bit Unicode fonts. Let's take for example the Greek lower-case pi character -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 10-Feb-2010, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Query for Bob Mathews Overriding paragraph font
MathType is behaving well. It's the Word Styles that I think are overriding
the characters in text, not in MathType eq. I think it may be that I have to use the dialog box as Suzanne said. Also, while I have your ear, do you know if eXstyles supports Euclid Symbol now? Thanks! "Bob Mathews" wrote: LOL -- Yep; I found it. Not sure how much help I'll be though. We'll see. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 10-Feb-2010, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have answered! On Feb 10, 12:23 pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. . |
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Query for Bob Mathews Overriding paragraph font
MathType is behaving well. It's the Word Styles that I think are overriding
the characters in text, not in MathType eq. I think it may be that I have to use the dialog box as Suzanne said. Also, while I have your ear, do you know if eXstyles supports Euclid Symbol now? Thanks! "Bob Mathews" wrote: LOL -- Yep; I found it. Not sure how much help I'll be though. We'll see. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 10-Feb-2010, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have answered! On Feb 10, 12:23 pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. . |
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Hey there Vadose,
Back in the day, fonts had to do their thing with a maximum of 256 characters in a font (8-bit fonts). Fonts had mappings based on their encoding. Some encodings were standardized, such as Times-Roman (Latin), Symbol, and Dingbats. When 16-bit fonts were introduced, that increased the maximum to 65K characters per font, though a font might use only a few thousand (or much less) of those characters. Other encodings were introduced, but finally Unicode came around, which provided a standard "everyone" agreed to. So, what does that mean in the real world? That means that fonts that have been around a while, like Symbol and Euclid Symbol, still have the old character mappings, BUT that doesn't necessarily mean they can't be used side-by-side with newer 16-bit Unicode fonts. Let's take for example the Greek lower-case pi character. Its Unicode "code point" is 03C0. If you look at the character mapping in the Times New Roman Unicode font (TNRU), pi is also in the position 03C0 within the font. In both Euclid Symbol and Symbol fonts, pi is in character position 70. The character in position 70 in TNRU is the lower-case p. So, if you have a typed "p" in your document in TNRU, then you select the p and switch to either Euclid Symbol or Symbol, the character should change to the pi symbol. Clearly this will not work for every symbol, and this may be the problem you're having. Another cause of it could be if your organization has special macros attached to Word's default template (or other template, if you're not using the default), and the macros prevent you from arbitrarily switching from one font to another. If, on the other hand, you had a Word style that was set to the font you need for these symbols, this may be allowed. I know of at least one organization that is so strict about use of styles in Word that the font selection box is disabled. Hope this has been of some help. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 10-Feb-2010, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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Overriding paragraph font
Hey there Vadose,
Back in the day, fonts had to do their thing with a maximum of 256 characters in a font (8-bit fonts). Fonts had mappings based on their encoding. Some encodings were standardized, such as Times-Roman (Latin), Symbol, and Dingbats. When 16-bit fonts were introduced, that increased the maximum to 65K characters per font, though a font might use only a few thousand (or much less) of those characters. Other encodings were introduced, but finally Unicode came around, which provided a standard "everyone" agreed to. So, what does that mean in the real world? That means that fonts that have been around a while, like Symbol and Euclid Symbol, still have the old character mappings, BUT that doesn't necessarily mean they can't be used side-by-side with newer 16-bit Unicode fonts. Let's take for example the Greek lower-case pi character. Its Unicode "code point" is 03C0. If you look at the character mapping in the Times New Roman Unicode font (TNRU), pi is also in the position 03C0 within the font. In both Euclid Symbol and Symbol fonts, pi is in character position 70. The character in position 70 in TNRU is the lower-case p. So, if you have a typed "p" in your document in TNRU, then you select the p and switch to either Euclid Symbol or Symbol, the character should change to the pi symbol. Clearly this will not work for every symbol, and this may be the problem you're having. Another cause of it could be if your organization has special macros attached to Word's default template (or other template, if you're not using the default), and the macros prevent you from arbitrarily switching from one font to another. If, on the other hand, you had a Word style that was set to the font you need for these symbols, this may be allowed. I know of at least one organization that is so strict about use of styles in Word that the font selection box is disabled. Hope this has been of some help. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 10-Feb-2010, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command. |
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(No, I changed the header. Bob always replies when the header
indicates it's a question about Eq.Ed. or MathType, which this turned out to be.) On Feb 10, 4:49*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, she did address the post to Bob Mathews of Design Science. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have answered! On Feb 10, 12:23 pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font.. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command.- |
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Query for Bob Mathews Overriding paragraph font
(No, I changed the header. Bob always replies when the header
indicates it's a question about Eq.Ed. or MathType, which this turned out to be.) On Feb 10, 4:49*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, she did address the post to Bob Mathews of Design Science. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have answered! On Feb 10, 12:23 pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font.. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command.- |
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Query for Bob Mathews Overriding paragraph font
Ah, okay, I didn't look back to check, though I didn't think I remembered
the ATTN line before. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... (No, I changed the header. Bob always replies when the header indicates it's a question about Eq.Ed. or MathType, which this turned out to be.) On Feb 10, 4:49 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, she did address the post to Bob Mathews of Design Science. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have answered! On Feb 10, 12:23 pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command.- |
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Ah, okay, I didn't look back to check, though I didn't think I remembered
the ATTN line before. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... (No, I changed the header. Bob always replies when the header indicates it's a question about Eq.Ed. or MathType, which this turned out to be.) On Feb 10, 4:49 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, she did address the post to Bob Mathews of Design Science. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... If you'd said so in the first place, the right person would have answered! On Feb 10, 12:23 pm, Vadose wrote: Not sure. It is a font created for MathType by its developer Design Science. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Is Euclid Symbol a font following the Unicode coding for mathematical characters (as in, for instance, Cambria Math), or is it an older font based on the Symbol font? Symbol font somehow violates Unicode coding and doesn't interact well with other fonts. On Feb 9, 3:13 pm, Vadose wrote: I am editing in Word 2007, and sometimes need to override the paragraph font for certain math characters. The paragraph font is Times New Roman; the new font I want to introduce is Euclid Symbol. When I highlight the character and change the font, it does not stay but reverts to the paragraph font. When I delete the character, choose a font, and type the desired character, it will stay momentarily, but will frequently be replaced by a box when I scroll back up later. We use these fonts to match our styles in our layout program. This is why I am not using the usual Insert command.- |
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