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Default Outline mode: Different result when press Return at end of heading

I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP. In outline mode, I have a level 1
heading with an entire of tree of headings and body content
subordinate to it. This tree is collapsed so that I only see a gray
dithered/hash line beneath the level 1 heading (normal usage of
outline mode). The cursor is at the end of the level 1 heading. When
I press return, I create a new level 1 heading. One of two things
happen with the subordinate tree, depending on the computer that I
use.

1. The subordinate tree stays with the first level 1 heading, and the
new level 1 heading is beneath the tree.

2. The subordinate tree shifts down and becomes subordinate to the
second level 1 heading (which is blank).

How is this behaviour controlled? I would like to have behaviour #1
above.

Thanks.
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Default Outline mode: Different result when press Return at end of heading

In my experience, scenario 2 occurs only when the shown heading is the last
one displayed in the document that you are working with. For example:

+ Heading 1¶
+ Heading 1¶ -- Pressing Enter at the end of this paragraph would create a
new, "empty" Heading 1 paragraph (no subordinate paragraphs)
+ Heading 1¶ -- Pressing Enter at the end of this paragraph would transfer
the subordinate paragraphs to the new Heading 1 paragraph.

Are you seeing something different?

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"Paul" wrote in message
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I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP. In outline mode, I have a level 1
heading with an entire of tree of headings and body content
subordinate to it. This tree is collapsed so that I only see a gray
dithered/hash line beneath the level 1 heading (normal usage of
outline mode). The cursor is at the end of the level 1 heading. When
I press return, I create a new level 1 heading. One of two things
happen with the subordinate tree, depending on the computer that I
use.

1. The subordinate tree stays with the first level 1 heading, and the
new level 1 heading is beneath the tree.

2. The subordinate tree shifts down and becomes subordinate to the
second level 1 heading (which is blank).

How is this behaviour controlled? I would like to have behaviour #1
above.

Thanks.






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Default Outline mode: Different result when press Return at end ofheading

Stefan, you're right! I copied a document to another machine, wiped
out the content and started anew. Hence, the insertion point was at
the last paragraph (of a relatively empty document). Thanks! (Nice
backward scripted "P" characters you used -- how did you get them in
normal text?)

On May 7, 4:55 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote:
In my experience, scenario 2 occurs only when the shown heading is the last
one displayed in the document that you are working with. For example:

+ Heading 1¶
+ Heading 1¶ -- Pressing Enter at the end of this paragraph would create a
new, "empty" Heading 1 paragraph (no subordinate paragraphs)
+ Heading 1¶ -- Pressing Enter at the end of this paragraph would transfer
the subordinate paragraphs to the new Heading 1 paragraph.

Are you seeing something different?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Paul" wrote in message

...

I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP. In outline mode, I have a level 1
heading with an entire of tree of headings and body content
subordinate to it. This tree is collapsed so that I only see a gray
dithered/hash line beneath the level 1 heading (normal usage of
outline mode). The cursor is at the end of the level 1 heading. When
I press return, I create a new level 1 heading. One of two things
happen with the subordinate tree, depending on the computer that I
use.


1. The subordinate tree stays with the first level 1 heading, and the
new level 1 heading is beneath the tree.


2. The subordinate tree shifts down and becomes subordinate to the
second level 1 heading (which is blank).


How is this behaviour controlled? I would like to have behaviour #1
above.


Thanks.


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Default Outline mode: Different result when press Return at end of heading

I'm glad I could help.

To insert the pilcrow (paragraph mark), press Alt+0182 (with NUMLOCK
activated). Alternatively, use the Character Map in Windows, or the Symbol
dialog box in Word. Note that the shortcut is listed in the Symbol dialog
box.

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Microsoft Word MVP


"Paul" wrote in message
...
Stefan, you're right! I copied a document to another machine, wiped
out the content and started anew. Hence, the insertion point was at
the last paragraph (of a relatively empty document). Thanks! (Nice
backward scripted "P" characters you used -- how did you get them in
normal text?)

On May 7, 4:55 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote:
In my experience, scenario 2 occurs only when the shown heading is the
last
one displayed in the document that you are working with. For example:

+ Heading 1¶
+ Heading 1¶ -- Pressing Enter at the end of this paragraph would create
a
new, "empty" Heading 1 paragraph (no subordinate paragraphs)
+ Heading 1¶ -- Pressing Enter at the end of this paragraph would
transfer
the subordinate paragraphs to the new Heading 1 paragraph.

Are you seeing something different?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Paul" wrote in message

...

I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP. In outline mode, I have a level 1
heading with an entire of tree of headings and body content
subordinate to it. This tree is collapsed so that I only see a gray
dithered/hash line beneath the level 1 heading (normal usage of
outline mode). The cursor is at the end of the level 1 heading. When
I press return, I create a new level 1 heading. One of two things
happen with the subordinate tree, depending on the computer that I
use.


1. The subordinate tree stays with the first level 1 heading, and the
new level 1 heading is beneath the tree.


2. The subordinate tree shifts down and becomes subordinate to the
second level 1 heading (which is blank).


How is this behaviour controlled? I would like to have behaviour #1
above.


Thanks.





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Default Outline mode: Different result when press Return at end of heading

I forgot to mention that 0182 should be typed on the numeric keypad.

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"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
I'm glad I could help.

To insert the pilcrow (paragraph mark), press Alt+0182 (with NUMLOCK
activated). Alternatively, use the Character Map in Windows, or the Symbol
dialog box in Word. Note that the shortcut is listed in the Symbol dialog
box.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Paul" wrote in message
...
Stefan, you're right! I copied a document to another machine, wiped
out the content and started anew. Hence, the insertion point was at
the last paragraph (of a relatively empty document). Thanks! (Nice
backward scripted "P" characters you used -- how did you get them in
normal text?)

On May 7, 4:55 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote:
In my experience, scenario 2 occurs only when the shown heading is the
last
one displayed in the document that you are working with. For example:

+ Heading 1¶
+ Heading 1¶ -- Pressing Enter at the end of this paragraph would
create
a
new, "empty" Heading 1 paragraph (no subordinate paragraphs)
+ Heading 1¶ -- Pressing Enter at the end of this paragraph would
transfer
the subordinate paragraphs to the new Heading 1 paragraph.

Are you seeing something different?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Paul" wrote in message

...

I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP. In outline mode, I have a level 1
heading with an entire of tree of headings and body content
subordinate to it. This tree is collapsed so that I only see a gray
dithered/hash line beneath the level 1 heading (normal usage of
outline mode). The cursor is at the end of the level 1 heading. When
I press return, I create a new level 1 heading. One of two things
happen with the subordinate tree, depending on the computer that I
use.


1. The subordinate tree stays with the first level 1 heading, and the
new level 1 heading is beneath the tree.


2. The subordinate tree shifts down and becomes subordinate to the
second level 1 heading (which is blank).


How is this behaviour controlled? I would like to have behaviour #1
above.


Thanks.









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Default Outline mode: Different result when press Return at end ofheading

I'm surprised it came through on usenet, which is text-only. It even
works when entering text in a text-only fashion e.g. using Google
Groups: ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶ !!

Must be part of the "standard" text character set.

Thanks!

On May 7, 9:18 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote:
I'm glad I could help.

To insert the pilcrow (paragraph mark), press Alt+0182 (with NUMLOCK
activated). Alternatively, use the Character Map in Windows, or the Symbol
dialog box in Word. Note that the shortcut is listed in the Symbol dialog
box.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Paul" wrote in message

...
Stefan, you're right! I copied a document to another machine, wiped
out the content and started anew. Hence, the insertion point was at
the last paragraph (of a relatively empty document). Thanks! (Nice
backward scripted "P" characters you used -- how did you get them in
normal text?)

On May 7, 4:55 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote:

In my experience, scenario 2 occurs only when the shown heading is the
last
one displayed in the document that you are working with. For example:


+ Heading 1¶
+ Heading 1¶ -- Pressing Enter at the end of this paragraph would create
a
new, "empty" Heading 1 paragraph (no subordinate paragraphs)
+ Heading 1¶ -- Pressing Enter at the end of this paragraph would
transfer
the subordinate paragraphs to the new Heading 1 paragraph.


Are you seeing something different?


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Paul" wrote in message


...


I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP. In outline mode, I have a level 1
heading with an entire of tree of headings and body content
subordinate to it. This tree is collapsed so that I only see a gray
dithered/hash line beneath the level 1 heading (normal usage of
outline mode). The cursor is at the end of the level 1 heading. When
I press return, I create a new level 1 heading. One of two things
happen with the subordinate tree, depending on the computer that I
use.


1. The subordinate tree stays with the first level 1 heading, and the
new level 1 heading is beneath the tree.


2. The subordinate tree shifts down and becomes subordinate to the
second level 1 heading (which is blank).


How is this behaviour controlled? I would like to have behaviour #1
above.


Thanks.


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Default Outline mode: Different result when press Return at end of heading

It has always been part of the standard character set, along with §; both
are (or used to be) extensively used in legal documents.

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"Paul" wrote in message
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I'm surprised it came through on usenet, which is text-only. It even
works when entering text in a text-only fashion e.g. using Google
Groups: ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶ !!

Must be part of the "standard" text character set.

Thanks!

On May 7, 9:18 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote:
I'm glad I could help.

To insert the pilcrow (paragraph mark), press Alt+0182 (with NUMLOCK
activated). Alternatively, use the Character Map in Windows, or the Symbol
dialog box in Word. Note that the shortcut is listed in the Symbol dialog
box.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Paul" wrote in message

...
Stefan, you're right! I copied a document to another machine, wiped
out the content and started anew. Hence, the insertion point was at
the last paragraph (of a relatively empty document). Thanks! (Nice
backward scripted "P" characters you used -- how did you get them in
normal text?)

On May 7, 4:55 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote:

In my experience, scenario 2 occurs only when the shown heading is the
last
one displayed in the document that you are working with. For example:


+ Heading 1¶
+ Heading 1¶ -- Pressing Enter at the end of this paragraph would
create
a
new, "empty" Heading 1 paragraph (no subordinate paragraphs)
+ Heading 1¶ -- Pressing Enter at the end of this paragraph would
transfer
the subordinate paragraphs to the new Heading 1 paragraph.


Are you seeing something different?


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Paul" wrote in message


...


I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP. In outline mode, I have a level 1
heading with an entire of tree of headings and body content
subordinate to it. This tree is collapsed so that I only see a gray
dithered/hash line beneath the level 1 heading (normal usage of
outline mode). The cursor is at the end of the level 1 heading. When
I press return, I create a new level 1 heading. One of two things
happen with the subordinate tree, depending on the computer that I
use.


1. The subordinate tree stays with the first level 1 heading, and the
new level 1 heading is beneath the tree.


2. The subordinate tree shifts down and becomes subordinate to the
second level 1 heading (which is blank).


How is this behaviour controlled? I would like to have behaviour #1
above.


Thanks.



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