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Hi,
Not really the right place for this post but I can't find a group dedicated to Microsoft Office Document Imaging (MODI) so please forgive me trying my luck here as I've found you're a very clever bunch! I have a client who recieves documents in TIF format (they are scans of articles). She prints these documents to paper, then scans them to turn them into PDF. Obviously I have recomended simply printing these to PDF rather than messing around with printing and scanning (as this is time consuming and I believe results in a poorer quality PDF). My client is concerned that the original TIF files are protected in some way (expire after a certain period of time) and that directly creating a PDF could transfer that protection to the PDF file (so that it would eventually expire). Question 1 I am 99.9% certain that you cannot put 'rights management' on a TIF file (to prevent then number of copies you can print or to set an expiry date) - but can someone who knows more about TIF files confirm this? Question 2 If I am wrong and TIF files can be protected in this way, is there any way that this protection could be carried over to a PDF generated by using a PDF Printer driver? There do not appear to be any security settings on the resulting PDF files. Question 3 With the TIF file format and MODI I can OCR the scanned file such that I can then search for terms within the scanned document. The OCR information is lost when I convert to PDF and the free Adobe reader does not appear to have any OCR capabilities. Can PDF support OCRing and then searching a scanned image like MODI/TIF can do? If so, what tools do I need? Many thanks, Apologies again for posting this here - if you know of a better group for this, please let me know... Paul |
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You might try microsoft.public.word.drawing.graphics if you don't get a
response here. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Paul" wrote in message ... Hi, Not really the right place for this post but I can't find a group dedicated to Microsoft Office Document Imaging (MODI) so please forgive me trying my luck here as I've found you're a very clever bunch! I have a client who recieves documents in TIF format (they are scans of articles). She prints these documents to paper, then scans them to turn them into PDF. Obviously I have recomended simply printing these to PDF rather than messing around with printing and scanning (as this is time consuming and I believe results in a poorer quality PDF). My client is concerned that the original TIF files are protected in some way (expire after a certain period of time) and that directly creating a PDF could transfer that protection to the PDF file (so that it would eventually expire). Question 1 I am 99.9% certain that you cannot put 'rights management' on a TIF file (to prevent then number of copies you can print or to set an expiry date) - but can someone who knows more about TIF files confirm this? Question 2 If I am wrong and TIF files can be protected in this way, is there any way that this protection could be carried over to a PDF generated by using a Printer driver? There do not appear to be any security settings on the resulting PDF files. Question 3 With the TIF file format and MODI I can OCR the scanned file such that I can then search for terms within the scanned document. The OCR information is lost when I convert to PDF and the free Adobe reader does not appear to have any OCR capabilities. Can PDF support OCRing and then searching a scanned image like MODI/TIF can do? If so, what tools do I need? Many thanks, Apologies again for posting this here - if you know of a better group for this, please let me know... Paul |
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Hi Paul
Paul wrote: I have a client who recieves documents in TIF format (they are scans of articles). She prints these documents to paper, then scans them to turn them into PDF. Obviously I have recomended simply printing these to PDF rather than messing around with printing and scanning (as this is time consuming and I believe results in a poorer quality PDF). My client is concerned that the original TIF files are protected in some way (expire after a certain period of time) and that directly creating a PDF could transfer that protection to the PDF file (so that it would eventually expire). Question 1 I am 99.9% certain that you cannot put 'rights management' on a TIF file (to prevent then number of copies you can print or to set an expiry date) - but can someone who knows more about TIF files confirm this? Question 2 If I am wrong and TIF files can be protected in this way, is there any way that this protection could be carried over to a PDF generated by using a PDF Printer driver? There do not appear to be any security settings on the resulting PDF files. Question 3 With the TIF file format and MODI I can OCR the scanned file such that I can then search for terms within the scanned document. The OCR information is lost when I convert to PDF and the free Adobe reader does not appear to have any OCR capabilities. Can PDF support OCRing and then searching a scanned image like MODI/TIF can do? If so, what tools do I need? I have no idea about TIFF protection, but would be somewhat sceptic myself. I'd try the geeks in comp.text.pdf. 2cents Robert -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | MS \ / | MVP X Against HTML | for / \ in e-mail & news | Word |
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"Robert M. Franz (RMF)" wrote: Hi Paul Paul wrote: I have a client who recieves documents in TIF format (they are scans of articles). She prints these documents to paper, then scans them to turn them into PDF. Obviously I have recomended simply printing these to PDF rather than messing around with printing and scanning (as this is time consuming and I believe results in a poorer quality PDF). Of course. My client is concerned that the original TIF files are protected in some way (expire after a certain period of time) and that directly creating a PDF could transfer that protection to the PDF file (so that it would eventually expire). Question 1 I am 99.9% certain that you cannot put 'rights management' on a TIF file (to prevent then number of copies you can print or to set an expiry date) - but can someone who knows more about TIF files confirm this? TIFF has no stinkin' rights management (the most bogus concept in PDF). Question 2 If I am wrong and TIF files can be protected in this way, is there any way that this protection could be carried over to a PDF generated by using a PDF Printer driver? There do not appear to be any security settings on the resulting PDF files. I'm sure that at least one of the $29.95 products that easily defeat PDF rights management (by simply reading and rewrinting the file!) could just as easily put back in any rights you wanted to apply. Question 3 With the TIF file format and MODI I can OCR the scanned file such that I can then search for terms within the scanned document. The OCR information is lost when I convert to PDF and the free Adobe reader does not appear to have any OCR capabilities. Can PDF support OCRing and then searching a scanned image like MODI/TIF can do? If so, what tools do I need? Yes, various OCR packages output searchable text to PDF files. As does our SwiftConvert utility (www.swiftview.com) that converts TIFF, PCL, and HPGL to TIFF, PDF, etc. As far as I can tell, Microsoft has not published their private extension to tiff to embed searchable text. That's why when you convert it this information is lost. I'm about to request the spec for Microsoft's extension, so that SwiftPublish can transfer this hidden searchable text to PDF. |
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