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Ah, got it. Thanks.

Mike
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Sorry, I've been bitten by that twice lately. Several articles have been
combined into this one: "How to reset user options and registry settings

in
Microsoft Office Word 2003, Microsoft Word 2002, and Microsoft Word 2000"

at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822005

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all may benefit.

"Mike Starr" wrote in message
...
Suzanne...

Thanks for the pointer but the article is "currently not available"... I

did
searches on the kb id and the title you provided to no avail.

Mike
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Many settings are stored in the Registry. AutoCorrect entries (other

than
formatted ones) are stored in .acl files, one for each language. See

“HOW
TO: Reset User Options and Registry Settings in Word 2002” at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=289294. This includes a table of

where
settings are stored.

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"Mike Starr" wrote in message
...
The recent announcement by Microsoft that they've made Microsoft

Virtual
PC
a free product means that it's going to be much easier to test some

of
these
assumptions. Once I get up to speed with that product, I'm hoping to

have
time to do some testing. It would be nice to know exactly what

causes
these
recent versions of Word to generate a Normal.dot file as well as

what
customizations one can make that do not result in the creation of a
Normal.dot file. I think there are some customizations that are

stored
elsewhere but that's only one of those "if I'd only been paying

attention"
impressions. Unfortunately, the press of everyday work keeps me from

a
lot
of these really interesting experiments.

Mike
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
It is well known that recent versions of Word don't generate a
Normal.dot
till you customize it. But it is assumed that the file already

exists
if
you
think you're having problems with it. As long as Word is still

operating
with the hard-wired version in the executable, it can't very well

be
corrupt.

Your suggestion about the Default... button is intriguing, but it

seems
to
be generally agreed that add-ins (especially the Microsoft Works

Suite
Add-in for Word) are responsible for saving a document in or as
Normal.dot.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Mike Starr" wrote in message
...
In the course of investigating the problems that led to my post

the
other
day in m.p.w.a.e, I searched diligently for normal.dot. I've

known
the
techniques outlined in the article you posted the link to for

years,
yet
I
was unable to find a copy of a file named normal.dot. It wasn't

until
I
opened a blank document and saved it as normal.dot in the user
template
location that I was able to make changes to the default

template.

Y'all keep pointing folks to the article that tells them the

training
wheels
techniques for finding a file but the fact of the matter is that

in
some
cases, it just ain't there. I'd recommend a little

investigation...
dig
up
a
freshly installed instance of Windows 2000, install Word 2002

and
find
normal.dot. I think Microsoft made some changes to the way it

creates
a
new,
blank document beginning with Word 2002. I think the stuff that

had
been
normally included in normal.dot has been offloaded to a .dll

file
someplace
that Word uses to source a new blank document. If at some point,

the
user
creates a normal.dot file and places it in the user template

directory
(or
perhaps uses those techniques outlined in

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm
in
which
case Word itself might generate a normal.dot file... I don't

know
if
that's
the case or not. Haven't got the bandwidth right now to

investigate.),
Word
then uses that file as the basis for new blank documents.

Obviously, Word has always had the ability to function with no
normal.dot
file... we advise people to delete it all the time and Word (in

the
past)
merrily generates a new one. Is it so strange to conceive that
Microsoft
in
its wisdom may have said "Hey... we really don't need to create

a
normal.dot
file... the default settings are already stored in
such-and-such.dll...
why
do we need to bother creating a normal.dot file? We can create

one
on
the
fly if the user modifies one of the default settings."

I don't want to sound contentious but I consider myself to be an
expert-level Word user and a highly advanced Windows user (don't

have
the
network training to be an expert Windows user) and if anyone can

find
a
missing normal.dot, I can.

I do have a theory on the characters mysteriously getting

included
in
the
default template... is it possible that somehow those "Default"
buttons
that
are the new recommended method for modifying normal.dot actually
create
a
normal.dot file on the fly with the contents (or partial

contents)
of
the
current document?

Best regards

Mike

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/...ocNotBlank.htm

for
instructions on finding it.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"TonyL" wrote in message
...
I have a situation where I beleive my Normal.dot file has

become
corrupt
&
I
want to delete it but I cannot find it. I am logged onto

the
PC
with
Admin
rights & have Show hidden files selected in the My
Computer/Tools/Folder
options

I have also done a manual search in the usual places i.e
c:\program
files\Microsoft Office & also the Document & Settings &

cannot
find
it.

This is a stand alone PC with only 1 local drive running XP

Pro
SP2
&
Office
2003.

Where can it be &/or how can Word run without it? TIA
--
Tony












 
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