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When is Microsoft going to redo the whole Word 2007 menu and toolb
Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons
and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so much productive time becasue I can't find anything. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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When is Microsoft going to redo the whole Word 2007 menu and toolb
Well you are out of luck. Office 2010 has more ribbons than ever.
Check http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Ribbon_Menu_Controls.htm . Just below the last image you can find an addin to get the old menus in Word 2007 (well almost). But honestly, you shouldn't be using them. It's time to learn something new and move on. Yves "hib6545" wrote in message ... Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so much productive time becasue I can't find anything. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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When is Microsoft going to redo the whole Word 2007 menu and toolb
Well you are out of luck. Office 2010 has more ribbons than ever. Check http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Ribbon_Menu_Controls.htm . Just below the last image you can find an addin to get the old menus in Word 2007 (well almost). But honestly, you shouldn't be using them. It's time to learn something new and move on. Yves "hib6545" wrote in message ... Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so much productive time becasue I can't find anything. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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ROFL! Now that Word 2010 is out, that's it for 2007. Oh, guess what fun the
toolbar is in 2010! "hib6545" wrote in message ... : Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons : and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give : people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I : spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these : groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put : everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the : option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so : much productive time becasue I can't find anything. : : ---------------- : This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the : suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I : Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this : link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then : click "I Agree" in the message pane. : : http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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When is Microsoft going to redo the whole Word 2007 menu and toolb
ROFL! Now that Word 2010 is out, that's it for 2007. Oh, guess what fun the
toolbar is in 2010! "hib6545" wrote in message ... : Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons : and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give : people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I : spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these : groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put : everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the : option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so : much productive time becasue I can't find anything. : : ---------------- : This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the : suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I : Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this : link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then : click "I Agree" in the message pane. : : http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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When is Microsoft going to redo the whole Word 2007 menu and t
Why? Why should we learn something new and move on? Have you ever heard the
expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Well, for some of us the way 2003 gave us freedom to work the way we want to work wasn't broke. You should have seen the custom toolbars I had in 2003! It made my job SOOOOOOOO much easier!! I could add macros (of course I know I can add them to the QAT, but there's not enough room for everything I use), rearrange the placement of the icons, change the icons and so much more, so again Why? I was lucky enough to be forewarned that our company was moving to 2007 so I had my add-ins all ready to install and use them on a daily basis just as I did when using 2003. All the other person was saying is Why not give users a choice? Again Why? Is there REALLY a reason? And, no we don't have to get used to it - we always have the choice to use a different software product! "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Well you are out of luck. Office 2010 has more ribbons than ever. Check http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Ribbon_Menu_Controls.htm . Just below the last image you can find an addin to get the old menus in Word 2007 (well almost). But honestly, you shouldn't be using them. It's time to learn something new and move on. Yves "hib6545" wrote in message ... Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so much productive time becasue I can't find anything. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t . |
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When is Microsoft going to redo the whole Word 2007 menu and t
Why? Why should we learn something new and move on? Have you ever heard the
expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Well, for some of us the way 2003 gave us freedom to work the way we want to work wasn't broke. You should have seen the custom toolbars I had in 2003! It made my job SOOOOOOOO much easier!! I could add macros (of course I know I can add them to the QAT, but there's not enough room for everything I use), rearrange the placement of the icons, change the icons and so much more, so again Why? I was lucky enough to be forewarned that our company was moving to 2007 so I had my add-ins all ready to install and use them on a daily basis just as I did when using 2003. All the other person was saying is Why not give users a choice? Again Why? Is there REALLY a reason? And, no we don't have to get used to it - we always have the choice to use a different software product! "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Well you are out of luck. Office 2010 has more ribbons than ever. Check http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Ribbon_Menu_Controls.htm . Just below the last image you can find an addin to get the old menus in Word 2007 (well almost). But honestly, you shouldn't be using them. It's time to learn something new and move on. Yves "hib6545" wrote in message ... Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so much productive time becasue I can't find anything. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t . |
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And, no we don't have to get
: used to it - we always have the choice to use a different software product! Then stop your whining and use a different software product. |
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And, no we don't have to get
: used to it - we always have the choice to use a different software product! Then stop your whining and use a different software product. |
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When is Microsoft going to redo the whole Word 2007 menu and t
Word 2003 wasn't broken, so according to your logic, Microsoft shouldn't
have created a Word 2007 and even when they did, the OP shouldn't have upgraded to it. The expression "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has serious drawbacks. If you follow this rule strictly there will never be any progress. Evolution is nothing more than changing mostly non-broken things. Or do you think walking on two feet was the result of crawling on four feet being broken? Or animal riding was the result of walking on two feet being broken? Or the car was invented because animal riding was broken and needed fixing? Besides, who decides what is broken and what is not? One could easily argue that a menu-driven approach was broken as to not enough information being visible at any given time for example. The behaviour of Word 2003 custom toolbars can easily be mimicked in Word 2007 by custom tabs. It might ask a little effort to set up initially but the end result is pretty similar. As to giving the users a choice: the users have plenty of choice, stick to Word 2003, switch to another office suite (Open Office for example), ... or move on to Word 2007 and learn something new. If they choose for the latter, they shouldn't be complaining about it. Yves "PJY" wrote in message ... Why? Why should we learn something new and move on? Have you ever heard the expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Well, for some of us the way 2003 gave us freedom to work the way we want to work wasn't broke. You should have seen the custom toolbars I had in 2003! It made my job SOOOOOOOO much easier!! I could add macros (of course I know I can add them to the QAT, but there's not enough room for everything I use), rearrange the placement of the icons, change the icons and so much more, so again Why? I was lucky enough to be forewarned that our company was moving to 2007 so I had my add-ins all ready to install and use them on a daily basis just as I did when using 2003. All the other person was saying is Why not give users a choice? Again Why? Is there REALLY a reason? And, no we don't have to get used to it - we always have the choice to use a different software product! "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Well you are out of luck. Office 2010 has more ribbons than ever. Check http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Ribbon_Menu_Controls.htm . Just below the last image you can find an addin to get the old menus in Word 2007 (well almost). But honestly, you shouldn't be using them. It's time to learn something new and move on. Yves "hib6545" wrote in message ... Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so much productive time becasue I can't find anything. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t . |
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When is Microsoft going to redo the whole Word 2007 menu and t
Word 2003 wasn't broken, so according to your logic, Microsoft shouldn't have created a Word 2007 and even when they did, the OP shouldn't have upgraded to it. The expression "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has serious drawbacks. If you follow this rule strictly there will never be any progress. Evolution is nothing more than changing mostly non-broken things. Or do you think walking on two feet was the result of crawling on four feet being broken? Or animal riding was the result of walking on two feet being broken? Or the car was invented because animal riding was broken and needed fixing? Besides, who decides what is broken and what is not? One could easily argue that a menu-driven approach was broken as to not enough information being visible at any given time for example. The behaviour of Word 2003 custom toolbars can easily be mimicked in Word 2007 by custom tabs. It might ask a little effort to set up initially but the end result is pretty similar. As to giving the users a choice: the users have plenty of choice, stick to Word 2003, switch to another office suite (Open Office for example), ... or move on to Word 2007 and learn something new. If they choose for the latter, they shouldn't be complaining about it. Yves "PJY" wrote in message ... Why? Why should we learn something new and move on? Have you ever heard the expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Well, for some of us the way 2003 gave us freedom to work the way we want to work wasn't broke. You should have seen the custom toolbars I had in 2003! It made my job SOOOOOOOO much easier!! I could add macros (of course I know I can add them to the QAT, but there's not enough room for everything I use), rearrange the placement of the icons, change the icons and so much more, so again Why? I was lucky enough to be forewarned that our company was moving to 2007 so I had my add-ins all ready to install and use them on a daily basis just as I did when using 2003. All the other person was saying is Why not give users a choice? Again Why? Is there REALLY a reason? And, no we don't have to get used to it - we always have the choice to use a different software product! "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Well you are out of luck. Office 2010 has more ribbons than ever. Check http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Ribbon_Menu_Controls.htm . Just below the last image you can find an addin to get the old menus in Word 2007 (well almost). But honestly, you shouldn't be using them. It's time to learn something new and move on. Yves "hib6545" wrote in message ... Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so much productive time becasue I can't find anything. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t . |
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When is Microsoft going to redo the whole Word 2007 menu and t
Wow, you really take an inch and make it a mile don't you! I wasn't writing
about evolution - good grief - we're talking about a mere software program, folks. All I am saying is that MS could have/should have given the user a choice and they did not. And, yes, according to my logic MS should NOT have created Word 2007. That is EXACTLY how I feel. For what I use it for, I see absolutely no improvement whatsoever, only hindrances. Others who use different options may find it easier - I, however, only find it harder to use and prefer 2003. I had no choice in this matter, so you cannot put the blame on me AND I was NOT complaining. You act as though 2007 was your idea and I just hurt your feelings! I guess you just slid by my statement saying I did add my own tab. So, I know how to "work around" the problems, but, I think you missed my point entirely. A choice would have been helpful. I don't like it - so YOU GET USED TO IT!!! Not everyone thinks it's great - GET USED TO IT. P.S. I don't like spinach, either, are you going to condemn me for that, too? "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Word 2003 wasn't broken, so according to your logic, Microsoft shouldn't have created a Word 2007 and even when they did, the OP shouldn't have upgraded to it. The expression "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has serious drawbacks. If you follow this rule strictly there will never be any progress. Evolution is nothing more than changing mostly non-broken things. Or do you think walking on two feet was the result of crawling on four feet being broken? Or animal riding was the result of walking on two feet being broken? Or the car was invented because animal riding was broken and needed fixing? Besides, who decides what is broken and what is not? One could easily argue that a menu-driven approach was broken as to not enough information being visible at any given time for example. The behaviour of Word 2003 custom toolbars can easily be mimicked in Word 2007 by custom tabs. It might ask a little effort to set up initially but the end result is pretty similar. As to giving the users a choice: the users have plenty of choice, stick to Word 2003, switch to another office suite (Open Office for example), ... or move on to Word 2007 and learn something new. If they choose for the latter, they shouldn't be complaining about it. Yves "PJY" wrote in message ... Why? Why should we learn something new and move on? Have you ever heard the expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Well, for some of us the way 2003 gave us freedom to work the way we want to work wasn't broke. You should have seen the custom toolbars I had in 2003! It made my job SOOOOOOOO much easier!! I could add macros (of course I know I can add them to the QAT, but there's not enough room for everything I use), rearrange the placement of the icons, change the icons and so much more, so again Why? I was lucky enough to be forewarned that our company was moving to 2007 so I had my add-ins all ready to install and use them on a daily basis just as I did when using 2003. All the other person was saying is Why not give users a choice? Again Why? Is there REALLY a reason? And, no we don't have to get used to it - we always have the choice to use a different software product! "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Well you are out of luck. Office 2010 has more ribbons than ever. Check http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Ribbon_Menu_Controls.htm . Just below the last image you can find an addin to get the old menus in Word 2007 (well almost). But honestly, you shouldn't be using them. It's time to learn something new and move on. Yves "hib6545" wrote in message ... Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so much productive time becasue I can't find anything. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t . . |
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When is Microsoft going to redo the whole Word 2007 menu and t
Wow, you really take an inch and make it a mile don't you! I wasn't writing
about evolution - good grief - we're talking about a mere software program, folks. All I am saying is that MS could have/should have given the user a choice and they did not. And, yes, according to my logic MS should NOT have created Word 2007. That is EXACTLY how I feel. For what I use it for, I see absolutely no improvement whatsoever, only hindrances. Others who use different options may find it easier - I, however, only find it harder to use and prefer 2003. I had no choice in this matter, so you cannot put the blame on me AND I was NOT complaining. You act as though 2007 was your idea and I just hurt your feelings! I guess you just slid by my statement saying I did add my own tab. So, I know how to "work around" the problems, but, I think you missed my point entirely. A choice would have been helpful. I don't like it - so YOU GET USED TO IT!!! Not everyone thinks it's great - GET USED TO IT. P.S. I don't like spinach, either, are you going to condemn me for that, too? "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Word 2003 wasn't broken, so according to your logic, Microsoft shouldn't have created a Word 2007 and even when they did, the OP shouldn't have upgraded to it. The expression "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has serious drawbacks. If you follow this rule strictly there will never be any progress. Evolution is nothing more than changing mostly non-broken things. Or do you think walking on two feet was the result of crawling on four feet being broken? Or animal riding was the result of walking on two feet being broken? Or the car was invented because animal riding was broken and needed fixing? Besides, who decides what is broken and what is not? One could easily argue that a menu-driven approach was broken as to not enough information being visible at any given time for example. The behaviour of Word 2003 custom toolbars can easily be mimicked in Word 2007 by custom tabs. It might ask a little effort to set up initially but the end result is pretty similar. As to giving the users a choice: the users have plenty of choice, stick to Word 2003, switch to another office suite (Open Office for example), ... or move on to Word 2007 and learn something new. If they choose for the latter, they shouldn't be complaining about it. Yves "PJY" wrote in message ... Why? Why should we learn something new and move on? Have you ever heard the expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Well, for some of us the way 2003 gave us freedom to work the way we want to work wasn't broke. You should have seen the custom toolbars I had in 2003! It made my job SOOOOOOOO much easier!! I could add macros (of course I know I can add them to the QAT, but there's not enough room for everything I use), rearrange the placement of the icons, change the icons and so much more, so again Why? I was lucky enough to be forewarned that our company was moving to 2007 so I had my add-ins all ready to install and use them on a daily basis just as I did when using 2003. All the other person was saying is Why not give users a choice? Again Why? Is there REALLY a reason? And, no we don't have to get used to it - we always have the choice to use a different software product! "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Well you are out of luck. Office 2010 has more ribbons than ever. Check http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Ribbon_Menu_Controls.htm . Just below the last image you can find an addin to get the old menus in Word 2007 (well almost). But honestly, you shouldn't be using them. It's time to learn something new and move on. Yves "hib6545" wrote in message ... Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so much productive time becasue I can't find anything. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t . . |
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I wasn't whining - just stating facts and opinions. And, the new software
will be loaded June 1. "Tom Willett" wrote: And, no we don't have to get : used to it - we always have the choice to use a different software product! Then stop your whining and use a different software product. . |
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When is Microsoft going to redo the whole Word 2007 menu and t
I wasn't whining - just stating facts and opinions. And, the new software will be loaded June 1. "Tom Willett" wrote: And, no we don't have to get : used to it - we always have the choice to use a different software product! Then stop your whining and use a different software product. . |
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When is Microsoft going to redo the whole Word 2007 menu and t
I'm not going to condemn you because you don't like spinach. I'm going to
condemn you for eating spinach and then come to a public forum to complain about the taste of spinach you just ate. If you don't like spinach, then don't eat it. There are plenty of other vegetables to choose from. And the exact same thing holds for your word processor. Why do people always complain about the consequences of their own actions (be it eating spinach or upgrading their software)? And why do they try to move the blame from themselves to a(n anonymous) third party? You didn't hurt my feelings on the subject as I don't really care about the user interface. I prefer shortcuts over having to take my hand away from the keyboard to move a mouse. If this discussion would move in the direction of science, then I would have to say that the new user interface is more user friendly than the old one. But then again, in such a discussion, one would have to admit that the UI of a Mac, where the menu items are located at the very top of the window, is still better. I don't think I'm missing your point, I believe you are missing mine: you had a choice! You could have kept using Word 2003 without a problem. Just like there are still plenty of people out there using Word XP without a problem. The fact that you made the choice to switch to Word 2007 forfaits any rights you have to complain about changes it made to existing things. Yves "PJY" wrote in message ... Wow, you really take an inch and make it a mile don't you! I wasn't writing about evolution - good grief - we're talking about a mere software program, folks. All I am saying is that MS could have/should have given the user a choice and they did not. And, yes, according to my logic MS should NOT have created Word 2007. That is EXACTLY how I feel. For what I use it for, I see absolutely no improvement whatsoever, only hindrances. Others who use different options may find it easier - I, however, only find it harder to use and prefer 2003. I had no choice in this matter, so you cannot put the blame on me AND I was NOT complaining. You act as though 2007 was your idea and I just hurt your feelings! I guess you just slid by my statement saying I did add my own tab. So, I know how to "work around" the problems, but, I think you missed my point entirely. A choice would have been helpful. I don't like it - so YOU GET USED TO IT!!! Not everyone thinks it's great - GET USED TO IT. P.S. I don't like spinach, either, are you going to condemn me for that, too? "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Word 2003 wasn't broken, so according to your logic, Microsoft shouldn't have created a Word 2007 and even when they did, the OP shouldn't have upgraded to it. The expression "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has serious drawbacks. If you follow this rule strictly there will never be any progress. Evolution is nothing more than changing mostly non-broken things. Or do you think walking on two feet was the result of crawling on four feet being broken? Or animal riding was the result of walking on two feet being broken? Or the car was invented because animal riding was broken and needed fixing? Besides, who decides what is broken and what is not? One could easily argue that a menu-driven approach was broken as to not enough information being visible at any given time for example. The behaviour of Word 2003 custom toolbars can easily be mimicked in Word 2007 by custom tabs. It might ask a little effort to set up initially but the end result is pretty similar. As to giving the users a choice: the users have plenty of choice, stick to Word 2003, switch to another office suite (Open Office for example), ... or move on to Word 2007 and learn something new. If they choose for the latter, they shouldn't be complaining about it. Yves "PJY" wrote in message ... Why? Why should we learn something new and move on? Have you ever heard the expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Well, for some of us the way 2003 gave us freedom to work the way we want to work wasn't broke. You should have seen the custom toolbars I had in 2003! It made my job SOOOOOOOO much easier!! I could add macros (of course I know I can add them to the QAT, but there's not enough room for everything I use), rearrange the placement of the icons, change the icons and so much more, so again Why? I was lucky enough to be forewarned that our company was moving to 2007 so I had my add-ins all ready to install and use them on a daily basis just as I did when using 2003. All the other person was saying is Why not give users a choice? Again Why? Is there REALLY a reason? And, no we don't have to get used to it - we always have the choice to use a different software product! "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Well you are out of luck. Office 2010 has more ribbons than ever. Check http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Ribbon_Menu_Controls.htm . Just below the last image you can find an addin to get the old menus in Word 2007 (well almost). But honestly, you shouldn't be using them. It's time to learn something new and move on. Yves "hib6545" wrote in message ... Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so much productive time becasue I can't find anything. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. 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I'm not going to condemn you because you don't like spinach. I'm going to
condemn you for eating spinach and then come to a public forum to complain about the taste of spinach you just ate. If you don't like spinach, then don't eat it. There are plenty of other vegetables to choose from. And the exact same thing holds for your word processor. Why do people always complain about the consequences of their own actions (be it eating spinach or upgrading their software)? And why do they try to move the blame from themselves to a(n anonymous) third party? You didn't hurt my feelings on the subject as I don't really care about the user interface. I prefer shortcuts over having to take my hand away from the keyboard to move a mouse. If this discussion would move in the direction of science, then I would have to say that the new user interface is more user friendly than the old one. But then again, in such a discussion, one would have to admit that the UI of a Mac, where the menu items are located at the very top of the window, is still better. I don't think I'm missing your point, I believe you are missing mine: you had a choice! You could have kept using Word 2003 without a problem. Just like there are still plenty of people out there using Word XP without a problem. The fact that you made the choice to switch to Word 2007 forfaits any rights you have to complain about changes it made to existing things. Yves "PJY" wrote in message ... Wow, you really take an inch and make it a mile don't you! I wasn't writing about evolution - good grief - we're talking about a mere software program, folks. All I am saying is that MS could have/should have given the user a choice and they did not. And, yes, according to my logic MS should NOT have created Word 2007. That is EXACTLY how I feel. For what I use it for, I see absolutely no improvement whatsoever, only hindrances. Others who use different options may find it easier - I, however, only find it harder to use and prefer 2003. I had no choice in this matter, so you cannot put the blame on me AND I was NOT complaining. You act as though 2007 was your idea and I just hurt your feelings! I guess you just slid by my statement saying I did add my own tab. So, I know how to "work around" the problems, but, I think you missed my point entirely. A choice would have been helpful. I don't like it - so YOU GET USED TO IT!!! Not everyone thinks it's great - GET USED TO IT. P.S. I don't like spinach, either, are you going to condemn me for that, too? "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Word 2003 wasn't broken, so according to your logic, Microsoft shouldn't have created a Word 2007 and even when they did, the OP shouldn't have upgraded to it. The expression "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has serious drawbacks. If you follow this rule strictly there will never be any progress. Evolution is nothing more than changing mostly non-broken things. Or do you think walking on two feet was the result of crawling on four feet being broken? Or animal riding was the result of walking on two feet being broken? Or the car was invented because animal riding was broken and needed fixing? Besides, who decides what is broken and what is not? One could easily argue that a menu-driven approach was broken as to not enough information being visible at any given time for example. The behaviour of Word 2003 custom toolbars can easily be mimicked in Word 2007 by custom tabs. It might ask a little effort to set up initially but the end result is pretty similar. As to giving the users a choice: the users have plenty of choice, stick to Word 2003, switch to another office suite (Open Office for example), ... or move on to Word 2007 and learn something new. If they choose for the latter, they shouldn't be complaining about it. Yves "PJY" wrote in message ... Why? Why should we learn something new and move on? Have you ever heard the expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Well, for some of us the way 2003 gave us freedom to work the way we want to work wasn't broke. You should have seen the custom toolbars I had in 2003! It made my job SOOOOOOOO much easier!! I could add macros (of course I know I can add them to the QAT, but there's not enough room for everything I use), rearrange the placement of the icons, change the icons and so much more, so again Why? I was lucky enough to be forewarned that our company was moving to 2007 so I had my add-ins all ready to install and use them on a daily basis just as I did when using 2003. All the other person was saying is Why not give users a choice? Again Why? Is there REALLY a reason? And, no we don't have to get used to it - we always have the choice to use a different software product! "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Well you are out of luck. Office 2010 has more ribbons than ever. Check http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Ribbon_Menu_Controls.htm . Just below the last image you can find an addin to get the old menus in Word 2007 (well almost). But honestly, you shouldn't be using them. It's time to learn something new and move on. Yves "hib6545" wrote in message ... Dear Microsoft. I have no idea who laid out Word 2007 but the toolbar, icons and menus at the top makit impossiblefor me to do my job. You should give people the option to keep the menus and icons layout that is in Word 2003. I spend most of my time trying to find things because whoever decided on these groupings makes no sense. I created my own customer toolbar but I can't put everything I need and use there. In your next release, please put in the option to have the origianal toolbar and menu of Word 2003. I am losing so much productive time becasue I can't find anything. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t . . |
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Yves Dhondt typed: Word 2003 wasn't broken, so according to your logic, Microsoft shouldn't have created a Word 2007 and even when they did, the OP shouldn't have upgraded to it. The expression "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has serious drawbacks. If you follow this rule strictly there will never be any progress. Oh, man, here we go again. Progress for the sake of progress. If it ain't broke, then it doesn't need to be fixed. That says absolutely NOTHING for the researchers, but is good advice to a user. If the $$ spent don't buy you anything you can use, then it's wasted money. A person upgrades when there is a value offered in the upgrade, not simply because "it's there". Microsoft must really love you! |
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Yves Dhondt typed: Word 2003 wasn't broken, so according to your logic, Microsoft shouldn't have created a Word 2007 and even when they did, the OP shouldn't have upgraded to it. The expression "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has serious drawbacks. If you follow this rule strictly there will never be any progress. Oh, man, here we go again. Progress for the sake of progress. If it ain't broke, then it doesn't need to be fixed. That says absolutely NOTHING for the researchers, but is good advice to a user. If the $$ spent don't buy you anything you can use, then it's wasted money. A person upgrades when there is a value offered in the upgrade, not simply because "it's there". Microsoft must really love you! |
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I was merely pointing out that the expression "if it ain't broke, don't fix
it" is broken in itself as it stops progress. Whether that progress is for the sake of progress or not was never part of that discussion. The intention of my original reply to the OP was that as he had a perfectly fine product (2003) but still decided to upgrade to 2007, he forfaited any rights to complain about changes made to the product. Yves "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , Yves Dhondt typed: Word 2003 wasn't broken, so according to your logic, Microsoft shouldn't have created a Word 2007 and even when they did, the OP shouldn't have upgraded to it. The expression "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has serious drawbacks. If you follow this rule strictly there will never be any progress. Oh, man, here we go again. Progress for the sake of progress. If it ain't broke, then it doesn't need to be fixed. That says absolutely NOTHING for the researchers, but is good advice to a user. If the $$ spent don't buy you anything you can use, then it's wasted money. A person upgrades when there is a value offered in the upgrade, not simply because "it's there". Microsoft must really love you! |
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I was merely pointing out that the expression "if it ain't broke, don't fix
it" is broken in itself as it stops progress. Whether that progress is for the sake of progress or not was never part of that discussion. The intention of my original reply to the OP was that as he had a perfectly fine product (2003) but still decided to upgrade to 2007, he forfaited any rights to complain about changes made to the product. Yves "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , Yves Dhondt typed: Word 2003 wasn't broken, so according to your logic, Microsoft shouldn't have created a Word 2007 and even when they did, the OP shouldn't have upgraded to it. The expression "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has serious drawbacks. If you follow this rule strictly there will never be any progress. Oh, man, here we go again. Progress for the sake of progress. If it ain't broke, then it doesn't need to be fixed. That says absolutely NOTHING for the researchers, but is good advice to a user. If the $$ spent don't buy you anything you can use, then it's wasted money. A person upgrades when there is a value offered in the upgrade, not simply because "it's there". Microsoft must really love you! |
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