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TOC Changing page orientation with out interfering with Set TOC
I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC
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What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if
you have changed the margins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if you have changed the margins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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"Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough experience
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if you have changed the margins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am prepared to
offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with 1" left and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25". The TOC now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the entire table, and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated. They were in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding it--not by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it would appear that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting from being updated. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... "Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough experience to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if you have changed the margins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my
experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned tab stop adjust to page margins! -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am prepared to offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with 1" left and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25". The TOC now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the entire table, and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated. They were in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding it--not by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it would appear that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting from being updated. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... "Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough experience to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if you have changed the margins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I later realized
I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font formatting alone would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph formatting would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if any, can be made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned tab stop adjust to page margins! -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am prepared to offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with 1" left and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25". The TOC now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the entire table, and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated. They were in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding it--not by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it would appear that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting from being updated. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... "Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough experience to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if you have changed the margins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different font
size can be done without "locking" the tab stop. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I later realized I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font formatting alone would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph formatting would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if any, can be made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned tab stop adjust to page margins! -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am prepared to offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with 1" left and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25". The TOC now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the entire table, and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated. They were in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding it--not by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it would appear that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting from being updated. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... "Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough experience to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if you have changed the margins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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That's good news, but kind of perverse. Styles define many settings,
including font, tab settings, and paragraph settings. But tabs aren't part of paragraph formatting per se (that is, they're not set in the Format Paragraph dialog), so it's no more reasonable for a change in Space Before/After to affect tabs than for a change in font to do so. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different font size can be done without "locking" the tab stop. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I later realized I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font formatting alone would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph formatting would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if any, can be made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned tab stop adjust to page margins! -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am prepared to offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with 1" left and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25". The TOC now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the entire table, and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated. They were in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding it--not by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it would appear that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting from being updated. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... "Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough experience to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if you have changed the margins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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I agree completely. Since "flexible" tab stops exist only for tables
of contents, they should be independent of paragraph formatting. The obvious exception would be when you've explicitly set tab stops for a TOC style. Then you certainly don't want Word to automatically adjust them. (Of course, the application wouldn't know which tab stop to adjust, either, if there were several of them.) Things would be easier if Word also allowed for tab stops to be set relative to the right margin. Then there would be no need for the "flexible" tab stops. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That's good news, but kind of perverse. Styles define many settings, including font, tab settings, and paragraph settings. But tabs aren't part of paragraph formatting per se (that is, they're not set in the Format Paragraph dialog), so it's no more reasonable for a change in Space Before/After to affect tabs than for a change in font to do so. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different font size can be done without "locking" the tab stop. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I later realized I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font formatting alone would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph formatting would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if any, can be made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned tab stop adjust to page margins! -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am prepared to offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with 1" left and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25". The TOC now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the entire table, and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated. They were in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding it--not by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it would appear that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting from being updated. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... "Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough experience to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if you have changed the margins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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I agree with all of this. But what's really needed is the ability to add tab
*characters* to TOC entries to take advantage of custom tab stops to make the period leaders stop well short of the page numbers. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... I agree completely. Since "flexible" tab stops exist only for tables of contents, they should be independent of paragraph formatting. The obvious exception would be when you've explicitly set tab stops for a TOC style. Then you certainly don't want Word to automatically adjust them. (Of course, the application wouldn't know which tab stop to adjust, either, if there were several of them.) Things would be easier if Word also allowed for tab stops to be set relative to the right margin. Then there would be no need for the "flexible" tab stops. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That's good news, but kind of perverse. Styles define many settings, including font, tab settings, and paragraph settings. But tabs aren't part of paragraph formatting per se (that is, they're not set in the Format Paragraph dialog), so it's no more reasonable for a change in Space Before/After to affect tabs than for a change in font to do so. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different font size can be done without "locking" the tab stop. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I later realized I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font formatting alone would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph formatting would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if any, can be made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned tab stop adjust to page margins! -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am prepared to offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with 1" left and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25". The TOC now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the entire table, and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated. They were in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding it--not by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it would appear that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting from being updated. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... "Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough experience to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if you have changed the margins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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Use the \w switch?
-- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I agree with all of this. But what's really needed is the ability to add tab *characters* to TOC entries to take advantage of custom tab stops to make the period leaders stop well short of the page numbers. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... I agree completely. Since "flexible" tab stops exist only for tables of contents, they should be independent of paragraph formatting. The obvious exception would be when you've explicitly set tab stops for a TOC style. Then you certainly don't want Word to automatically adjust them. (Of course, the application wouldn't know which tab stop to adjust, either, if there were several of them.) Things would be easier if Word also allowed for tab stops to be set relative to the right margin. Then there would be no need for the "flexible" tab stops. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That's good news, but kind of perverse. Styles define many settings, including font, tab settings, and paragraph settings. But tabs aren't part of paragraph formatting per se (that is, they're not set in the Format Paragraph dialog), so it's no more reasonable for a change in Space Before/After to affect tabs than for a change in font to do so. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different font size can be done without "locking" the tab stop. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I later realized I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font formatting alone would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph formatting would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if any, can be made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned tab stop adjust to page margins! -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am prepared to offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with 1" left and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25". The TOC now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the entire table, and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated. They were in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding it--not by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it would appear that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting from being updated. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... "Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough experience to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if you have changed the margins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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This does work (IIRC), but it requires a tab character in the heading
itself, which can be a problem in centered headings. I think that when I want a classy-looking TOC I usually end up just unlinking the field and doing the last bit of formatting by hand. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Use the \w switch? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I agree with all of this. But what's really needed is the ability to add tab *characters* to TOC entries to take advantage of custom tab stops to make the period leaders stop well short of the page numbers. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... I agree completely. Since "flexible" tab stops exist only for tables of contents, they should be independent of paragraph formatting. The obvious exception would be when you've explicitly set tab stops for a TOC style. Then you certainly don't want Word to automatically adjust them. (Of course, the application wouldn't know which tab stop to adjust, either, if there were several of them.) Things would be easier if Word also allowed for tab stops to be set relative to the right margin. Then there would be no need for the "flexible" tab stops. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That's good news, but kind of perverse. Styles define many settings, including font, tab settings, and paragraph settings. But tabs aren't part of paragraph formatting per se (that is, they're not set in the Format Paragraph dialog), so it's no more reasonable for a change in Space Before/After to affect tabs than for a change in font to do so. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different font size can be done without "locking" the tab stop. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I later realized I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font formatting alone would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph formatting would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if any, can be made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned tab stop adjust to page margins! -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am prepared to offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with 1" left and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25". The TOC now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the entire table, and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated. They were in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding it--not by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it would appear that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting from being updated. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... "Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough experience to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if you have changed the margins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to update the entire table, if prompted. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly, you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are set to update automatically, by default). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "kaycee96" wrote in message ... I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC |
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