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Double-sided Printing with Portait and Landscape mixed - also Page Break question.
Greetings,
We use Word 2003 in Windows XP and I'm facing an odd situation. We write technical documents, in this case a parts list. We prefer to have the pictures on the left side of an open book, with the list of parts on the right. That way when you're looking at a part, you don't have to turn a page to find the information about a part. These picture/list combinations are done in Landscape orientation, but the front portions of the book (cover, table of contents, etc) are done in Portrait orientation. No real problem with a section break (I even figured out how to deal with the headers, footers, and numbering). The difficulty I'm facing is that in this manual the Portrait section is 3 pages long and the Landscape part starts on page 4 (normally the 'back' of page 3). This should work, as page 3 will be in the reader's right hand (I've printed this, and that works), then you turn the page... and page 4 is in your left hand (with the picture) and page 5 is in your right (with the list). Unfortunately, when I print double-sided, the back of page 3 is blank, and the image ends up on the wrong side of the next piece of paper. I could add two pages between 3 and 4 "Intentionally left blank" but I would prefer not to. As I looked into this, I noticed that there is both a section page (inserted by me) that stops the Portrait and starts the Landscape and throughout the ENTIRE landscape section, EVERY page has a "Section Break (continuous)" with occasional "Page Breaks" here and there. I'm really confused about Section Breaks beyond the simple "Insert Break Next Page" function. I'm quite willing to completely re-format this inherited document and start from scratch, but don't want to if I don't have to. Which raises the questions: Is Word2003 unable to print a Portrait layout on one side of a page and a Landscape on the other? Where can I find out some information on Page Breaks in general and the 'continuous' variety in particular? Thanks, Shane |
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Double-sided Printing with Portait and Landscape mixed - also Page Break question.
No, you cannot mix portrait and landscape on the same sheet of paper. This
is a PRINTER forced limitation. Also, it is normal to start a new section on an Odd page. So if the first section is Page 1-3, then the next section must start on Page 5. I think it the combination of these that is making it difficult for you. Does that help sort your problem? -- Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP "Shane" Shane•Varnadore@DoYouLikeGreenEggsAndSpamBoweBell Howell.com wrote in message ... Greetings, We use Word 2003 in Windows XP and I'm facing an odd situation. We write technical documents, in this case a parts list. We prefer to have the pictures on the left side of an open book, with the list of parts on the right. That way when you're looking at a part, you don't have to turn a page to find the information about a part. These picture/list combinations are done in Landscape orientation, but the front portions of the book (cover, table of contents, etc) are done in Portrait orientation. No real problem with a section break (I even figured out how to deal with the headers, footers, and numbering). The difficulty I'm facing is that in this manual the Portrait section is 3 pages long and the Landscape part starts on page 4 (normally the 'back' of page 3). This should work, as page 3 will be in the reader's right hand (I've printed this, and that works), then you turn the page... and page 4 is in your left hand (with the picture) and page 5 is in your right (with the list). Unfortunately, when I print double-sided, the back of page 3 is blank, and the image ends up on the wrong side of the next piece of paper. I could add two pages between 3 and 4 "Intentionally left blank" but I would prefer not to. As I looked into this, I noticed that there is both a section page (inserted by me) that stops the Portrait and starts the Landscape and throughout the ENTIRE landscape section, EVERY page has a "Section Break (continuous)" with occasional "Page Breaks" here and there. I'm really confused about Section Breaks beyond the simple "Insert Break Next Page" function. I'm quite willing to completely re-format this inherited document and start from scratch, but don't want to if I don't have to. Which raises the questions: Is Word2003 unable to print a Portrait layout on one side of a page and a Landscape on the other? Where can I find out some information on Page Breaks in general and the 'continuous' variety in particular? Thanks, Shane |
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Double-sided Printing with Portait and Landscape mixed - also Page Break question.
Word is quite capable of putting landscape on the back of portrait and vice
versa, and, pace Terry, there is nothing wrong with this, but many printers try to avoid doing it (apparently printing landscape at all is trying for them, and trying to duplex portrait+landscape is very challenging), so Word accommodates them. Sometimes you can override this laziness by placing the insertion point in the misbehaving section, choosing the Layout tab of Page Setup, and changing the section start type from Odd Page to New Page. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Shane" Shane•Varnadore@DoYouLikeGreenEggsAndSpamBoweBell Howell.com wrote in message ... Greetings, We use Word 2003 in Windows XP and I'm facing an odd situation. We write technical documents, in this case a parts list. We prefer to have the pictures on the left side of an open book, with the list of parts on the right. That way when you're looking at a part, you don't have to turn a page to find the information about a part. These picture/list combinations are done in Landscape orientation, but the front portions of the book (cover, table of contents, etc) are done in Portrait orientation. No real problem with a section break (I even figured out how to deal with the headers, footers, and numbering). The difficulty I'm facing is that in this manual the Portrait section is 3 pages long and the Landscape part starts on page 4 (normally the 'back' of page 3). This should work, as page 3 will be in the reader's right hand (I've printed this, and that works), then you turn the page... and page 4 is in your left hand (with the picture) and page 5 is in your right (with the list). Unfortunately, when I print double-sided, the back of page 3 is blank, and the image ends up on the wrong side of the next piece of paper. I could add two pages between 3 and 4 "Intentionally left blank" but I would prefer not to. As I looked into this, I noticed that there is both a section page (inserted by me) that stops the Portrait and starts the Landscape and throughout the ENTIRE landscape section, EVERY page has a "Section Break (continuous)" with occasional "Page Breaks" here and there. I'm really confused about Section Breaks beyond the simple "Insert Break Next Page" function. I'm quite willing to completely re-format this inherited document and start from scratch, but don't want to if I don't have to. Which raises the questions: Is Word2003 unable to print a Portrait layout on one side of a page and a Landscape on the other? Where can I find out some information on Page Breaks in general and the 'continuous' variety in particular? Thanks, Shane |
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Double-sided Printing with Portait and Landscape mixed - also Page Break question.
Suzanne,
Thanks for the info, apparently the originator already had it set that way. I sent this same file to a different printer and also printed it to PDF and in both cases the pages did as I'd wanted. The printer I normally use was recently worked on and at least one setting is off, so perhaps there's another. Shane "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Word is quite capable of putting landscape on the back of portrait and vice versa, and, pace Terry, there is nothing wrong with this, but many printers try to avoid doing it (apparently printing landscape at all is trying for them, and trying to duplex portrait+landscape is very challenging), so Word accommodates them. Sometimes you can override this laziness by placing the insertion point in the misbehaving section, choosing the Layout tab of Page Setup, and changing the section start type from Odd Page to New Page. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Shane" Shane•Varnadore@DoYouLikeGreenEggsAndSpamBoweBell Howell.com wrote in message ... Greetings, We use Word 2003 in Windows XP and I'm facing an odd situation. We write technical documents, in this case a parts list. We prefer to have the pictures on the left side of an open book, with the list of parts on the right. That way when you're looking at a part, you don't have to turn a page to find the information about a part. These picture/list combinations are done in Landscape orientation, but the front portions of the book (cover, table of contents, etc) are done in Portrait orientation. No real problem with a section break (I even figured out how to deal with the headers, footers, and numbering). The difficulty I'm facing is that in this manual the Portrait section is 3 pages long and the Landscape part starts on page 4 (normally the 'back' of page 3). This should work, as page 3 will be in the reader's right hand (I've printed this, and that works), then you turn the page... and page 4 is in your left hand (with the picture) and page 5 is in your right (with the list). Unfortunately, when I print double-sided, the back of page 3 is blank, and the image ends up on the wrong side of the next piece of paper. I could add two pages between 3 and 4 "Intentionally left blank" but I would prefer not to. As I looked into this, I noticed that there is both a section page (inserted by me) that stops the Portrait and starts the Landscape and throughout the ENTIRE landscape section, EVERY page has a "Section Break (continuous)" with occasional "Page Breaks" here and there. I'm really confused about Section Breaks beyond the simple "Insert Break Next Page" function. I'm quite willing to completely re-format this inherited document and start from scratch, but don't want to if I don't have to. Which raises the questions: Is Word2003 unable to print a Portrait layout on one side of a page and a Landscape on the other? Where can I find out some information on Page Breaks in general and the 'continuous' variety in particular? Thanks, Shane |
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Double-sided Printing with Portait and Landscape mixed - also Page Break question.
Maybe I have just been unlucky and never had a printer that will do this. So
I have simply stuck to starting sections on an Odd page or meeting the obstacle by doing separate print runs. The first print run prints a blank page (except for the Header and Footer, of course) where the landscape object needs to go. Then I print these pages separately. Admittedly, it is only any good for a small print run. Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Word is quite capable of putting landscape on the back of portrait and vice versa, and, pace Terry, there is nothing wrong with this, but many printers try to avoid doing it (apparently printing landscape at all is trying for them, and trying to duplex portrait+landscape is very challenging), so Word accommodates them. Sometimes you can override this laziness by placing the insertion point in the misbehaving section, choosing the Layout tab of Page Setup, and changing the section start type from Odd Page to New Page. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Shane" Shane•Varnadore@DoYouLikeGreenEggsAndSpamBoweBell Howell.com wrote in message ... Greetings, We use Word 2003 in Windows XP and I'm facing an odd situation. We write technical documents, in this case a parts list. We prefer to have the pictures on the left side of an open book, with the list of parts on the right. That way when you're looking at a part, you don't have to turn a page to find the information about a part. These picture/list combinations are done in Landscape orientation, but the front portions of the book (cover, table of contents, etc) are done in Portrait orientation. No real problem with a section break (I even figured out how to deal with the headers, footers, and numbering). The difficulty I'm facing is that in this manual the Portrait section is 3 pages long and the Landscape part starts on page 4 (normally the 'back' of page 3). This should work, as page 3 will be in the reader's right hand (I've printed this, and that works), then you turn the page... and page 4 is in your left hand (with the picture) and page 5 is in your right (with the list). Unfortunately, when I print double-sided, the back of page 3 is blank, and the image ends up on the wrong side of the next piece of paper. I could add two pages between 3 and 4 "Intentionally left blank" but I would prefer not to. As I looked into this, I noticed that there is both a section page (inserted by me) that stops the Portrait and starts the Landscape and throughout the ENTIRE landscape section, EVERY page has a "Section Break (continuous)" with occasional "Page Breaks" here and there. I'm really confused about Section Breaks beyond the simple "Insert Break Next Page" function. I'm quite willing to completely re-format this inherited document and start from scratch, but don't want to if I don't have to. Which raises the questions: Is Word2003 unable to print a Portrait layout on one side of a page and a Landscape on the other? Where can I find out some information on Page Breaks in general and the 'continuous' variety in particular? Thanks, Shane |
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Double-sided Printing with Portait and Landscape mixed - also Page Break question.
If you need a portrait header and footer on the landscape page, this is far
the simplest approach, I agree. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... Maybe I have just been unlucky and never had a printer that will do this. So I have simply stuck to starting sections on an Odd page or meeting the obstacle by doing separate print runs. The first print run prints a blank page (except for the Header and Footer, of course) where the landscape object needs to go. Then I print these pages separately. Admittedly, it is only any good for a small print run. Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Word is quite capable of putting landscape on the back of portrait and vice versa, and, pace Terry, there is nothing wrong with this, but many printers try to avoid doing it (apparently printing landscape at all is trying for them, and trying to duplex portrait+landscape is very challenging), so Word accommodates them. Sometimes you can override this laziness by placing the insertion point in the misbehaving section, choosing the Layout tab of Page Setup, and changing the section start type from Odd Page to New Page. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Shane" Shane•Varnadore@DoYouLikeGreenEggsAndSpamBoweBell Howell.com wrote in message ... Greetings, We use Word 2003 in Windows XP and I'm facing an odd situation. We write technical documents, in this case a parts list. We prefer to have the pictures on the left side of an open book, with the list of parts on the right. That way when you're looking at a part, you don't have to turn a page to find the information about a part. These picture/list combinations are done in Landscape orientation, but the front portions of the book (cover, table of contents, etc) are done in Portrait orientation. No real problem with a section break (I even figured out how to deal with the headers, footers, and numbering). The difficulty I'm facing is that in this manual the Portrait section is 3 pages long and the Landscape part starts on page 4 (normally the 'back' of page 3). This should work, as page 3 will be in the reader's right hand (I've printed this, and that works), then you turn the page... and page 4 is in your left hand (with the picture) and page 5 is in your right (with the list). Unfortunately, when I print double-sided, the back of page 3 is blank, and the image ends up on the wrong side of the next piece of paper. I could add two pages between 3 and 4 "Intentionally left blank" but I would prefer not to. As I looked into this, I noticed that there is both a section page (inserted by me) that stops the Portrait and starts the Landscape and throughout the ENTIRE landscape section, EVERY page has a "Section Break (continuous)" with occasional "Page Breaks" here and there. I'm really confused about Section Breaks beyond the simple "Insert Break Next Page" function. I'm quite willing to completely re-format this inherited document and start from scratch, but don't want to if I don't have to. Which raises the questions: Is Word2003 unable to print a Portrait layout on one side of a page and a Landscape on the other? Where can I find out some information on Page Breaks in general and the 'continuous' variety in particular? Thanks, Shane |
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