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Two procedure writers use the same procedure template to create procedure
documents. On occasion, some of the paragraph spacing before the paragraph is
changed a few points by a writer to allow manual page breaks to be placed in
convenient locations (allowing procedural steps to remain with associated
notes and warnings, etc). Manual page breaks are used thoughout the document
to keep strict control on page format. Some of the documents created by one
of the writers look fine on the originating computer; however, if they are
opened on the other writer's computer, the paragraph spacing reverts to the
template setting and auto page breaks can double the pages in the document.
The "Automatically update template styles" option is not turned on and the
Normal template is the same for both users. Any ideas why this is happening?
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If Word 2003 on Menu Tools Templates and Addins - uncheck box "Automatically
Update Styles". Close document and reopen.

If that is not the problem check the individual styles - Modify "Name of
Style" and uncheck "Automatically update" - you should do this on the
document template not the documents created to solve the problem once and
for all and then reattach the amended template to the documents already
created.

Hope this helps.


"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Two procedure writers use the same procedure template to create procedure
documents. On occasion, some of the paragraph spacing before the paragraph
is
changed a few points by a writer to allow manual page breaks to be placed
in
convenient locations (allowing procedural steps to remain with associated
notes and warnings, etc). Manual page breaks are used thoughout the
document
to keep strict control on page format. Some of the documents created by
one
of the writers look fine on the originating computer; however, if they are
opened on the other writer's computer, the paragraph spacing reverts to
the
template setting and auto page breaks can double the pages in the
document.
The "Automatically update template styles" option is not turned on and the
Normal template is the same for both users. Any ideas why this is
happening?



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Thanks for your quick reply summer. I have done some more research and I
think I asked the wrong question. If the same document is opened on two
different computers, the spacing that appears between the paragraphs is
different. When the style is checked, the assigned spacing is the same on
either computer. However, when displayed or printed, the spacing is different
enough to throw off the pagination. But more confusing is it only happens in
one direction. In other words, documents created on computer 1 will open to
look the same on computer 2. But documents on created on computer 2 may open
on computer 1 with the spacing between paragraphs a few points different. The
style pt setting is the same on either computer, but the displayed and
printed results are different.

"Summer" wrote:

If Word 2003 on Menu Tools Templates and Addins - uncheck box "Automatically
Update Styles". Close document and reopen.

If that is not the problem check the individual styles - Modify "Name of
Style" and uncheck "Automatically update" - you should do this on the
document template not the documents created to solve the problem once and
for all and then reattach the amended template to the documents already
created.

Hope this helps.


"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Two procedure writers use the same procedure template to create procedure
documents. On occasion, some of the paragraph spacing before the paragraph
is
changed a few points by a writer to allow manual page breaks to be placed
in
convenient locations (allowing procedural steps to remain with associated
notes and warnings, etc). Manual page breaks are used thoughout the
document
to keep strict control on page format. Some of the documents created by
one
of the writers look fine on the originating computer; however, if they are
opened on the other writer's computer, the paragraph spacing reverts to
the
template setting and auto page breaks can double the pages in the
document.
The "Automatically update template styles" option is not turned on and the
Normal template is the same for both users. Any ideas why this is
happening?




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Do you use different graphics cards and drivers and monitors?
"TKerr" wrote in message
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Thanks for your quick reply summer. I have done some more research and I
think I asked the wrong question. If the same document is opened on two
different computers, the spacing that appears between the paragraphs is
different. When the style is checked, the assigned spacing is the same on
either computer. However, when displayed or printed, the spacing is
different
enough to throw off the pagination. But more confusing is it only happens
in
one direction. In other words, documents created on computer 1 will open
to
look the same on computer 2. But documents on created on computer 2 may
open
on computer 1 with the spacing between paragraphs a few points different.
The
style pt setting is the same on either computer, but the displayed and
printed results are different.

"Summer" wrote:

If Word 2003 on Menu Tools Templates and Addins - uncheck box
"Automatically
Update Styles". Close document and reopen.

If that is not the problem check the individual styles - Modify "Name of
Style" and uncheck "Automatically update" - you should do this on the
document template not the documents created to solve the problem once and
for all and then reattach the amended template to the documents already
created.

Hope this helps.


"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Two procedure writers use the same procedure template to create
procedure
documents. On occasion, some of the paragraph spacing before the
paragraph
is
changed a few points by a writer to allow manual page breaks to be
placed
in
convenient locations (allowing procedural steps to remain with
associated
notes and warnings, etc). Manual page breaks are used thoughout the
document
to keep strict control on page format. Some of the documents created by
one
of the writers look fine on the originating computer; however, if they
are
opened on the other writer's computer, the paragraph spacing reverts to
the
template setting and auto page breaks can double the pages in the
document.
The "Automatically update template styles" option is not turned on and
the
Normal template is the same for both users. Any ideas why this is
happening?






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Different graphics cards, but I don't think that would cause the difference
in spacing when a page is printed. If the same page of a document is printed
from each computer, then held ontop of each other and held up to the light,
the font and font spacing are exactly the same. But the spacing between the
paragraphs is different. That is the way it displays on the screen, also.



"Summer" wrote:

Do you use different graphics cards and drivers and monitors?
"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your quick reply summer. I have done some more research and I
think I asked the wrong question. If the same document is opened on two
different computers, the spacing that appears between the paragraphs is
different. When the style is checked, the assigned spacing is the same on
either computer. However, when displayed or printed, the spacing is
different
enough to throw off the pagination. But more confusing is it only happens
in
one direction. In other words, documents created on computer 1 will open
to
look the same on computer 2. But documents on created on computer 2 may
open
on computer 1 with the spacing between paragraphs a few points different.
The
style pt setting is the same on either computer, but the displayed and
printed results are different.

"Summer" wrote:

If Word 2003 on Menu Tools Templates and Addins - uncheck box
"Automatically
Update Styles". Close document and reopen.

If that is not the problem check the individual styles - Modify "Name of
Style" and uncheck "Automatically update" - you should do this on the
document template not the documents created to solve the problem once and
for all and then reattach the amended template to the documents already
created.

Hope this helps.


"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Two procedure writers use the same procedure template to create
procedure
documents. On occasion, some of the paragraph spacing before the
paragraph
is
changed a few points by a writer to allow manual page breaks to be
placed
in
convenient locations (allowing procedural steps to remain with
associated
notes and warnings, etc). Manual page breaks are used thoughout the
document
to keep strict control on page format. Some of the documents created by
one
of the writers look fine on the originating computer; however, if they
are
opened on the other writer's computer, the paragraph spacing reverts to
the
template setting and auto page breaks can double the pages in the
document.
The "Automatically update template styles" option is not turned on and
the
Normal template is the same for both users. Any ideas why this is
happening?








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What could the Word program operating on computer 1 possibly embed or set
that is not compatible with or read correctly by computer 2? Both are using
the same template, both are using the same printer. This is driving me
insane. It affects about 2500 procedures and has been a problem and work
around since we started using Word. For example, if a procedure is written on
computer 1 and has 70 pages, when it is opened on computer 2 repaginates to
92 pages because of the increase in the amount of spacing between paragraphs.
However, if a 70 page procedure is created on computer 2 and opened on
computer 1, the spacing and pagination are fine.

"Summer" wrote:

Do you use different graphics cards and drivers and monitors?
"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your quick reply summer. I have done some more research and I
think I asked the wrong question. If the same document is opened on two
different computers, the spacing that appears between the paragraphs is
different. When the style is checked, the assigned spacing is the same on
either computer. However, when displayed or printed, the spacing is
different
enough to throw off the pagination. But more confusing is it only happens
in
one direction. In other words, documents created on computer 1 will open
to
look the same on computer 2. But documents on created on computer 2 may
open
on computer 1 with the spacing between paragraphs a few points different.
The
style pt setting is the same on either computer, but the displayed and
printed results are different.

"Summer" wrote:

If Word 2003 on Menu Tools Templates and Addins - uncheck box
"Automatically
Update Styles". Close document and reopen.

If that is not the problem check the individual styles - Modify "Name of
Style" and uncheck "Automatically update" - you should do this on the
document template not the documents created to solve the problem once and
for all and then reattach the amended template to the documents already
created.

Hope this helps.


"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Two procedure writers use the same procedure template to create
procedure
documents. On occasion, some of the paragraph spacing before the
paragraph
is
changed a few points by a writer to allow manual page breaks to be
placed
in
convenient locations (allowing procedural steps to remain with
associated
notes and warnings, etc). Manual page breaks are used thoughout the
document
to keep strict control on page format. Some of the documents created by
one
of the writers look fine on the originating computer; however, if they
are
opened on the other writer's computer, the paragraph spacing reverts to
the
template setting and auto page breaks can double the pages in the
document.
The "Automatically update template styles" option is not turned on and
the
Normal template is the same for both users. Any ideas why this is
happening?






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Summer, I have another clue. If I print a page of a document from either
computer, the blank space between paragraphs is larger on the page printed
from computer 1. That is the way it displays, also. Documents opened on
computer 1 have more space between the paragraphs; I'm estimating about 2-3
points.

"Summer" wrote:

Do you use different graphics cards and drivers and monitors?
"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your quick reply summer. I have done some more research and I
think I asked the wrong question. If the same document is opened on two
different computers, the spacing that appears between the paragraphs is
different. When the style is checked, the assigned spacing is the same on
either computer. However, when displayed or printed, the spacing is
different
enough to throw off the pagination. But more confusing is it only happens
in
one direction. In other words, documents created on computer 1 will open
to
look the same on computer 2. But documents on created on computer 2 may
open
on computer 1 with the spacing between paragraphs a few points different.
The
style pt setting is the same on either computer, but the displayed and
printed results are different.

"Summer" wrote:

If Word 2003 on Menu Tools Templates and Addins - uncheck box
"Automatically
Update Styles". Close document and reopen.

If that is not the problem check the individual styles - Modify "Name of
Style" and uncheck "Automatically update" - you should do this on the
document template not the documents created to solve the problem once and
for all and then reattach the amended template to the documents already
created.

Hope this helps.


"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Two procedure writers use the same procedure template to create
procedure
documents. On occasion, some of the paragraph spacing before the
paragraph
is
changed a few points by a writer to allow manual page breaks to be
placed
in
convenient locations (allowing procedural steps to remain with
associated
notes and warnings, etc). Manual page breaks are used thoughout the
document
to keep strict control on page format. Some of the documents created by
one
of the writers look fine on the originating computer; however, if they
are
opened on the other writer's computer, the paragraph spacing reverts to
the
template setting and auto page breaks can double the pages in the
document.
The "Automatically update template styles" option is not turned on and
the
Normal template is the same for both users. Any ideas why this is
happening?






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OK, another clue. I brought another individual's computer into the
troubleshooting arena. Out of three computers, there is one particular
computer that seems to define the spacing between paragraphs differently than
the others. It prints and displays more spacing between paragraphs than the
other two. However, it is the exact same model, same graphic card and same
monitor as the third computer brought into the troubleshooting. Is there a
windows setting or Word setting that can effect the way a computer displays
and prints the spacing when the template is assigning 12 pt. spacing before
the paragraphs?

"Summer" wrote:

Do you use different graphics cards and drivers and monitors?
"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your quick reply summer. I have done some more research and I
think I asked the wrong question. If the same document is opened on two
different computers, the spacing that appears between the paragraphs is
different. When the style is checked, the assigned spacing is the same on
either computer. However, when displayed or printed, the spacing is
different
enough to throw off the pagination. But more confusing is it only happens
in
one direction. In other words, documents created on computer 1 will open
to
look the same on computer 2. But documents on created on computer 2 may
open
on computer 1 with the spacing between paragraphs a few points different.
The
style pt setting is the same on either computer, but the displayed and
printed results are different.

"Summer" wrote:

If Word 2003 on Menu Tools Templates and Addins - uncheck box
"Automatically
Update Styles". Close document and reopen.

If that is not the problem check the individual styles - Modify "Name of
Style" and uncheck "Automatically update" - you should do this on the
document template not the documents created to solve the problem once and
for all and then reattach the amended template to the documents already
created.

Hope this helps.


"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Two procedure writers use the same procedure template to create
procedure
documents. On occasion, some of the paragraph spacing before the
paragraph
is
changed a few points by a writer to allow manual page breaks to be
placed
in
convenient locations (allowing procedural steps to remain with
associated
notes and warnings, etc). Manual page breaks are used thoughout the
document
to keep strict control on page format. Some of the documents created by
one
of the writers look fine on the originating computer; however, if they
are
opened on the other writer's computer, the paragraph spacing reverts to
the
template setting and auto page breaks can double the pages in the
document.
The "Automatically update template styles" option is not turned on and
the
Normal template is the same for both users. Any ideas why this is
happening?






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Yet another clue from troubleshooting: pages printed from other applications
(i.e.: outlook, excel, etc) all come out exactly the same from all three
computers. It is only with Word that documents from one computer have more
space between the paragraphs than when displayed or printed on the other
computers.

"Summer" wrote:

Do you use different graphics cards and drivers and monitors?
"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your quick reply summer. I have done some more research and I
think I asked the wrong question. If the same document is opened on two
different computers, the spacing that appears between the paragraphs is
different. When the style is checked, the assigned spacing is the same on
either computer. However, when displayed or printed, the spacing is
different
enough to throw off the pagination. But more confusing is it only happens
in
one direction. In other words, documents created on computer 1 will open
to
look the same on computer 2. But documents on created on computer 2 may
open
on computer 1 with the spacing between paragraphs a few points different.
The
style pt setting is the same on either computer, but the displayed and
printed results are different.

"Summer" wrote:

If Word 2003 on Menu Tools Templates and Addins - uncheck box
"Automatically
Update Styles". Close document and reopen.

If that is not the problem check the individual styles - Modify "Name of
Style" and uncheck "Automatically update" - you should do this on the
document template not the documents created to solve the problem once and
for all and then reattach the amended template to the documents already
created.

Hope this helps.


"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Two procedure writers use the same procedure template to create
procedure
documents. On occasion, some of the paragraph spacing before the
paragraph
is
changed a few points by a writer to allow manual page breaks to be
placed
in
convenient locations (allowing procedural steps to remain with
associated
notes and warnings, etc). Manual page breaks are used thoughout the
document
to keep strict control on page format. Some of the documents created by
one
of the writers look fine on the originating computer; however, if they
are
opened on the other writer's computer, the paragraph spacing reverts to
the
template setting and auto page breaks can double the pages in the
document.
The "Automatically update template styles" option is not turned on and
the
Normal template is the same for both users. Any ideas why this is
happening?






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Spacing between paragraphs can be affected by the HTML paragraph spacing
option in Tools | Options | Compatibility, but since these options are set
per document and the settings travel with the document, I don't see how that
could be the issue.

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"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Yet another clue from troubleshooting: pages printed from other

applications
(i.e.: outlook, excel, etc) all come out exactly the same from all three
computers. It is only with Word that documents from one computer have more
space between the paragraphs than when displayed or printed on the other
computers.

"Summer" wrote:

Do you use different graphics cards and drivers and monitors?
"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your quick reply summer. I have done some more research and

I
think I asked the wrong question. If the same document is opened on

two
different computers, the spacing that appears between the paragraphs

is
different. When the style is checked, the assigned spacing is the same

on
either computer. However, when displayed or printed, the spacing is
different
enough to throw off the pagination. But more confusing is it only

happens
in
one direction. In other words, documents created on computer 1 will

open
to
look the same on computer 2. But documents on created on computer 2

may
open
on computer 1 with the spacing between paragraphs a few points

different.
The
style pt setting is the same on either computer, but the displayed and
printed results are different.

"Summer" wrote:

If Word 2003 on Menu Tools Templates and Addins - uncheck box
"Automatically
Update Styles". Close document and reopen.

If that is not the problem check the individual styles - Modify "Name

of
Style" and uncheck "Automatically update" - you should do this on the
document template not the documents created to solve the problem once

and
for all and then reattach the amended template to the documents

already
created.

Hope this helps.


"TKerr" wrote in message
...
Two procedure writers use the same procedure template to create
procedure
documents. On occasion, some of the paragraph spacing before the
paragraph
is
changed a few points by a writer to allow manual page breaks to be
placed
in
convenient locations (allowing procedural steps to remain with
associated
notes and warnings, etc). Manual page breaks are used thoughout the
document
to keep strict control on page format. Some of the documents

created by
one
of the writers look fine on the originating computer; however, if

they
are
opened on the other writer's computer, the paragraph spacing

reverts to
the
template setting and auto page breaks can double the pages in the
document.
The "Automatically update template styles" option is not turned on

and
the
Normal template is the same for both users. Any ideas why this is
happening?









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