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Cascading paragraphs
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WindowsXP This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx xxxxxx xxx x I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of an Offering Statement. Thank you. |
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HT,
Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First from top left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, choose third tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on advanced, choose only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the same with the line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the left of the line. To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and lines tab and change the color to white. Luc "HT" schreef in bericht ... Word2003 WindowsXP This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx xxxxxx xxx x I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of an Offering Statement. Thank you. |
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Hi Luc,
I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take everything else with it. I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm glad to discover something I never thought about before. That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and just used Centering and the Enter key before this. Good tip! Pops "Luc" wrote in message ... : HT, : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First from top : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, choose third : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on advanced, choose : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the same with the : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the left of the : line. : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and lines tab and : change the color to white. : Luc : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Word2003 : WindowsXP : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : xxxxxxxxx : xxxxxxxx : xxxxxx : xxx : x : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of an Offering : Statement. : : Thank you. : : : : |
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PopS,
Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the mentioned tab. I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps around even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... Hi Luc, I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take everything else with it. I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm glad to discover something I never thought about before. That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and just used Centering and the Enter key before this. Good tip! Pops "Luc" wrote in message ... : HT, : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First from top : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, choose third : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on advanced, choose : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the same with the : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the left of the : line. : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and lines tab and : change the color to white. : Luc : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Word2003 : WindowsXP : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : xxxxxxxxx : xxxxxxxx : xxxxxx : xxx : x : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of an Offering : Statement. : : Thank you. : : : : |
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I do not have a "contour" button either. I appreciate the feedback..trying
Pop's way now. "Luc" wrote in message ... PopS, Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the mentioned tab. I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps around even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... Hi Luc, I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take everything else with it. I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm glad to discover something I never thought about before. That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and just used Centering and the Enter key before this. Good tip! Pops "Luc" wrote in message ... : HT, : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First from top : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, choose third : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on advanced, choose : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the same with the : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the left of the : line. : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and lines tab and : change the color to white. : Luc : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Word2003 : WindowsXP : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : xxxxxxxxx : xxxxxxxx : xxxxxx : xxx : x : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of an Offering : Statement. : : Thank you. : : : : |
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In the English version, the button is "Tight" There is no difference
between 2002 and 2003 in this regard. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "HT" wrote in message ... I do not have a "contour" button either. I appreciate the feedback..trying Pop's way now. "Luc" wrote in message ... PopS, Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the mentioned tab. I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps around even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... Hi Luc, I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take everything else with it. I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm glad to discover something I never thought about before. That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and just used Centering and the Enter key before this. Good tip! Pops "Luc" wrote in message ... : HT, : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First from top : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, choose third : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on advanced, choose : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the same with the : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the left of the : line. : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and lines tab and : change the color to white. : Luc : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Word2003 : WindowsXP : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : xxxxxxxxx : xxxxxxxx : xxxxxx : xxx : x : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of an Offering : Statement. : : Thank you. : : : : |
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Pops..I couldn't figure how the use the center text. I centered the
paragraph(s) and used enter but it did not give me the triangle effect. "HT" wrote in message ... I do not have a "contour" button either. I appreciate the feedback..trying Pop's way now. "Luc" wrote in message ... PopS, Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the mentioned tab. I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps around even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... Hi Luc, I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take everything else with it. I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm glad to discover something I never thought about before. That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and just used Centering and the Enter key before this. Good tip! Pops "Luc" wrote in message ... : HT, : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First from top : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, choose third : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on advanced, choose : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the same with the : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the left of the : line. : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and lines tab and : change the color to white. : Luc : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Word2003 : WindowsXP : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : xxxxxxxxx : xxxxxxxx : xxxxxx : xxx : x : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of an Offering : Statement. : : Thank you. : : : : |
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Thanks Doug..will try that.
"Doug Robbins" wrote in message ... In the English version, the button is "Tight" There is no difference between 2002 and 2003 in this regard. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "HT" wrote in message ... I do not have a "contour" button either. I appreciate the feedback..trying Pop's way now. "Luc" wrote in message ... PopS, Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the mentioned tab. I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps around even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... Hi Luc, I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take everything else with it. I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm glad to discover something I never thought about before. That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and just used Centering and the Enter key before this. Good tip! Pops "Luc" wrote in message ... : HT, : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First from top : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, choose third : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on advanced, choose : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the same with the : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the left of the : line. : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and lines tab and : change the color to white. : Luc : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Word2003 : WindowsXP : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : xxxxxxxxx : xxxxxxxx : xxxxxx : xxx : x : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of an Offering : Statement. : : Thank you. : : : : |
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By far the easiest way to do this is manually, centering the text (Ctrl+E)
and inserting manual line breaks (Shift+Enter) as needed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "HT" wrote in message ... Pops..I couldn't figure how the use the center text. I centered the paragraph(s) and used enter but it did not give me the triangle effect. "HT" wrote in message ... I do not have a "contour" button either. I appreciate the feedback..trying Pop's way now. "Luc" wrote in message ... PopS, Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the mentioned tab. I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps around even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... Hi Luc, I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take everything else with it. I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm glad to discover something I never thought about before. That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and just used Centering and the Enter key before this. Good tip! Pops "Luc" wrote in message ... : HT, : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First from top : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, choose third : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on advanced, choose : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the same with the : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the left of the : line. : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and lines tab and : change the color to white. : Luc : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Word2003 : WindowsXP : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : xxxxxxxxx : xxxxxxxx : xxxxxx : xxx : x : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of an Offering : Statement. : : Thank you. : : : : |
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Thanks Doug for posting, guess my translation was not so good after all.
Luc "Doug Robbins" schreef in bericht ... In the English version, the button is "Tight" There is no difference between 2002 and 2003 in this regard. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "HT" wrote in message ... I do not have a "contour" button either. I appreciate the feedback..trying Pop's way now. "Luc" wrote in message ... PopS, Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the mentioned tab. I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps around even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... Hi Luc, I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take everything else with it. I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm glad to discover something I never thought about before. That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and just used Centering and the Enter key before this. Good tip! Pops "Luc" wrote in message ... : HT, : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First from top : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, choose third : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on advanced, choose : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the same with the : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the left of the : line. : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and lines tab and : change the color to white. : Luc : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Word2003 : WindowsXP : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : xxxxxxxxx : xxxxxxxx : xxxxxx : xxx : x : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of an Offering : Statement. : : Thank you. : : : : |
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Wellll, I'm not so sure of that, actually. Using the "shape"
makes for a lot neater, more consistant pattern of the letters if you're going to do it for more than three or four lines. By hand it's a little guess & by golly and if you goof up an earlier line doing it manually, you have a lot of work to do getting the rest of it back in "shape" because all the line breaks move to new and unwanted positions when you make the correction. Regards, PopS "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... : By far the easiest way to do this is manually, centering the text (Ctrl+E) : and inserting manual line breaks (Shift+Enter) as needed. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "HT" wrote in message : ... : Pops..I couldn't figure how the use the center text. I centered the : paragraph(s) and used enter but it did not give me the triangle effect. : : : "HT" wrote in message : ... : I do not have a "contour" button either. I appreciate the : feedback..trying : Pop's way now. : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : PopS, : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use : the : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in : the : mentioned tab. : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps : around : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. : Luc : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : everything else with it. : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : Good tip! : : Pops : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : HT, : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First : from top : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, : choose third : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : advanced, choose : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the : same with the : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : left of the : : line. : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and : lines tab and : : change the color to white. : : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Word2003 : : WindowsXP : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : xxxxxxxx : : xxxxxx : : xxx : : x : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of : an Offering : : Statement. : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Did you have the line selected when you made the centering
command? I'm not sure of the exact mechanism of why it works and I can't seem to get enough time to play with it right now but I like the basic reliability with the exception of things "popping out" of it if I'm not careful. I think that means there's something I don't understand yet because Luc said he didn't have that problem. Try going back and rereading Luc's original description and working to it using the Tight, Center etc. and being sure to have the lines you drew selected before you do that operation. Basically it's draw the lines, select the lines, and do the wrap tight; center operation. At this exact moment I don't recall if both lines need to be selected or not or even how they relate to what happens. When I get a chance to get it straight in my head I'll try to post back with something more accurate and understandable (I hope). PopS "HT" wrote in message ... : Pops..I couldn't figure how the use the center text. I centered the : paragraph(s) and used enter but it did not give me the triangle effect. : : : "HT" wrote in message : ... : I do not have a "contour" button either. I appreciate the feedback..trying : Pop's way now. : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : PopS, : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the : mentioned tab. : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps : around : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. : Luc : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : everything else with it. : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : Good tip! : : Pops : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : HT, : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First : from top : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, : choose third : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : advanced, choose : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the : same with the : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : left of the : : line. : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and : lines tab and : : change the color to white. : : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Word2003 : : WindowsXP : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : xxxxxxxx : : xxxxxx : : xxx : : x : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of : an Offering : : Statement. : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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No, I think your translation was fine; you just forgot to
mention, and we never thought about, a difference in languages. Like I said in another post, that's a great idea and it did work almost as well for me as it did you g. PopS "Luc" wrote in message ... : Thanks Doug for posting, guess my translation was not so good after all. : Luc : "Doug Robbins" schreef in bericht : ... : In the English version, the button is "Tight" There is no difference : between 2002 and 2003 in this regard. : : -- : Hope this helps. : : Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my : services on a paid consulting basis. : : Doug Robbins - Word MVP : "HT" wrote in message : ... : I do not have a "contour" button either. I appreciate the feedback..trying : Pop's way now. : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : PopS, : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the : mentioned tab. : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps : around : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. : Luc : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : everything else with it. : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : Good tip! : : Pops : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : HT, : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First : from top : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, : choose third : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : advanced, choose : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the : same with the : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : left of the : : line. : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and : lines tab and : : change the color to white. : : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Word2003 : : WindowsXP : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : xxxxxxxx : : xxxxxx : : xxx : : x : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of : an Offering : : Statement. : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Ahh, an MVP; good to see you on this thread.
Have you tried it in 2002? If there's no difference then Luc and I shouldn't be having different results. Or, I'm still misunderstanding something, which is also a good possibility. I originally just assumed that "countour" might have been something new or that had been relocated somehow. I'm seeing enough posts on problems and such that are "different" in 2003 that I'm holding off on any upgrades until I know for sure there's something there that's useful for me. Regards, PopS "Doug Robbins" wrote in message ... : In the English version, the button is "Tight" There is no difference : between 2002 and 2003 in this regard. : : -- : Hope this helps. : : Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my : services on a paid consulting basis. : : Doug Robbins - Word MVP : "HT" wrote in message : ... : I do not have a "contour" button either. I appreciate the feedback..trying : Pop's way now. : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : PopS, : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the : mentioned tab. : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps : around : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. : Luc : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : everything else with it. : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : Good tip! : : Pops : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : HT, : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First : from top : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, : choose third : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : advanced, choose : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the : same with the : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : left of the : : line. : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and : lines tab and : : change the color to white. : : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Word2003 : : WindowsXP : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : xxxxxxxx : : xxxxxx : : xxx : : x : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of : an Offering : : Statement. : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Hi Luc,
No need for apologies - I'm quite happy with just discovering a way to do this with some automation. My way, with manual line breaks, is a real pain if I have to go back and fix an error, especially if it's adding or deleting an entire word. What version of Word are you working in? I'm interested in this enough to spend some time getting my head around how it works & why, but just can't seem to find the time (working weekend here), but I should be free by next week. If I can't either get it to work your way or any way for that matter g, and keep the text from jumping off onto the next page, I'll be back and maybe we can try some empiracal tests back and forth to help me figure it out? TIA, PopS "Luc" wrote in message ... : PopS, : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the : mentioned tab. : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps around : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. : Luc : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : everything else with it. : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : Good tip! : : Pops : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : HT, : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First : from top : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, : choose third : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : advanced, choose : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the : same with the : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : left of the : : line. : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and : lines tab and : : change the color to white. : : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Word2003 : : WindowsXP : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : xxxxxxxx : : xxxxxx : : xxx : : x : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of : an Offering : : Statement. : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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PopS,
Hi again, using Word 2003 here. Tested again here, the text does not jump around, when the page is full a new page is started without the lines of course. But I am guessing you only want the first page to cascade. I must say that I am not using any kind of centering. When the two lines are set one allowing textflow to the right (the left line) and one allowing textflow to the left (the right line) all you have to do is type in your text and edit to hearts content. The moment you have chosen Tight (thanks again Doug) you click on advanced, select the second tab of the dialogue, near the bottom there should be four ways to wrap text it's the middle two you need. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... Hi Luc, No need for apologies - I'm quite happy with just discovering a way to do this with some automation. My way, with manual line breaks, is a real pain if I have to go back and fix an error, especially if it's adding or deleting an entire word. What version of Word are you working in? I'm interested in this enough to spend some time getting my head around how it works & why, but just can't seem to find the time (working weekend here), but I should be free by next week. If I can't either get it to work your way or any way for that matter g, and keep the text from jumping off onto the next page, I'll be back and maybe we can try some empiracal tests back and forth to help me figure it out? TIA, PopS "Luc" wrote in message ... : PopS, : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the : mentioned tab. : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps around : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. : Luc : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : everything else with it. : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : Good tip! : : Pops : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : HT, : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First : from top : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, : choose third : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : advanced, choose : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the : same with the : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : left of the : : line. : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and : lines tab and : : change the color to white. : : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Word2003 : : WindowsXP : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : xxxxxxxx : : xxxxxx : : xxx : : x : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of : an Offering : : Statement. : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Hi, its me again..thanks for the input guys..
I now understand Luc's instructions (sorry I was too embarrassed to ask but thanks to Pop's speaking up he answered my questions)..it worked great for the first 4 sentences but then the text ran underneath the lines. I tried "Tight", "Both Sides" and received the same effect. "Luc" wrote in message ... PopS, Hi again, using Word 2003 here. Tested again here, the text does not jump around, when the page is full a new page is started without the lines of course. But I am guessing you only want the first page to cascade. I must say that I am not using any kind of centering. When the two lines are set one allowing textflow to the right (the left line) and one allowing textflow to the left (the right line) all you have to do is type in your text and edit to hearts content. The moment you have chosen Tight (thanks again Doug) you click on advanced, select the second tab of the dialogue, near the bottom there should be four ways to wrap text it's the middle two you need. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... Hi Luc, No need for apologies - I'm quite happy with just discovering a way to do this with some automation. My way, with manual line breaks, is a real pain if I have to go back and fix an error, especially if it's adding or deleting an entire word. What version of Word are you working in? I'm interested in this enough to spend some time getting my head around how it works & why, but just can't seem to find the time (working weekend here), but I should be free by next week. If I can't either get it to work your way or any way for that matter g, and keep the text from jumping off onto the next page, I'll be back and maybe we can try some empiracal tests back and forth to help me figure it out? TIA, PopS "Luc" wrote in message ... : PopS, : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the : mentioned tab. : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps around : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. : Luc : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : everything else with it. : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : Good tip! : : Pops : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : HT, : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First : from top : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, : choose third : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : advanced, choose : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the : same with the : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : left of the : : line. : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and : lines tab and : : change the color to white. : : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Word2003 : : WindowsXP : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : xxxxxxxx : : xxxxxx : : xxx : : x : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of : an Offering : : Statement. : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Hello HT,
If I read your reply correctly my method does not seem to work for you then. I'll try to explain it again. First step: Draw two separate lines using the line tool of the drawing toolbar, be sure to draw them so that they do not come together in the same point, leave some space between them at the bottom of the page. Second step: Select the left line by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose Format AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight icon, click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second tab (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue there are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the right" (third radio button from the left), hit OK two times. Third step: Select the line on the right by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose Format AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight icon, click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second tab (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue there are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the left" (second radio button from the left), hit OK two times. Fourth step: Your paragraph marker should now be to the right of the left line, click there and start to type, type as much text as you want, it will cascade as expected. Upon reaching the bottom of the page the page being full, and only then, there will be an automatic new page which of course will not cascade. Fifth step: Select the two lines (click and shift+click) choose Format - AutoShape, colors and lines tab, in the line section choose white as the line colour. That's all. Hope this time all is clear, remember I am translating. Luc "HT" schreef in bericht ... Hi, its me again..thanks for the input guys.. I now understand Luc's instructions (sorry I was too embarrassed to ask but thanks to Pop's speaking up he answered my questions)..it worked great for the first 4 sentences but then the text ran underneath the lines. I tried "Tight", "Both Sides" and received the same effect. "Luc" wrote in message ... PopS, Hi again, using Word 2003 here. Tested again here, the text does not jump around, when the page is full a new page is started without the lines of course. But I am guessing you only want the first page to cascade. I must say that I am not using any kind of centering. When the two lines are set one allowing textflow to the right (the left line) and one allowing textflow to the left (the right line) all you have to do is type in your text and edit to hearts content. The moment you have chosen Tight (thanks again Doug) you click on advanced, select the second tab of the dialogue, near the bottom there should be four ways to wrap text it's the middle two you need. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... Hi Luc, No need for apologies - I'm quite happy with just discovering a way to do this with some automation. My way, with manual line breaks, is a real pain if I have to go back and fix an error, especially if it's adding or deleting an entire word. What version of Word are you working in? I'm interested in this enough to spend some time getting my head around how it works & why, but just can't seem to find the time (working weekend here), but I should be free by next week. If I can't either get it to work your way or any way for that matter g, and keep the text from jumping off onto the next page, I'll be back and maybe we can try some empiracal tests back and forth to help me figure it out? TIA, PopS "Luc" wrote in message ... : PopS, : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since I use the : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the left in the : mentioned tab. : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing jumps around : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a rock. : Luc : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: Too : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump everything : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the triangle : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : everything else with it. : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy to : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds of : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and I'm : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : Good tip! : : Pops : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : HT, : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. First : from top : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle bottom. : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format AutoShape, : choose third : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : advanced, choose : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do the : same with the : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : left of the : : line. : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors and : lines tab and : : change the color to white. : : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Word2003 : : WindowsXP : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : xxxxxxxx : : xxxxxx : : xxx : : x : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page of : an Offering : : Statement. : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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OK Luc, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! It does indeed work in Word 2002
and probably earlier versions, too! Thanks to your specific and excellent leadership. I've got it working, reliably, and perfectly. I -think- it didn't work for me the first time because I was getting an erroneous dialog box when I chose the Format Autoshape, which I'll attribute to memory failure since it never appeared today (I decided to do a Restart just to be sure everything was pristine as possible). The Advance tab you don't know the name of is called "Text Wrapping". Interestingly enough, I've apparently never looked at the four choices in thge lower part of that dialog box because that's the secret to getting it to work right. Interestingly enough, it's possible to get it half-assed working with the original instructions I mentioned for 2002, but it will never be any more than half-assed that way! So, I'm suspecting that any version of Word that has the tab names and functions you called out can do this. Personally the only part I see missing in your writeup is to ignore the "Draw your Graphic Here" box that pops up in 2002 and draw the lines where you want them on the page, which is outside of the suggested box. If you don't get that box in 2003 it's probably been fixed because it doesn't restrict you to the suggested box in any way at all. In fact, trying to draw the lines IN that box will get you the wrong dialog box when you go to Format Autoshape. You have to ignore it, and it goes away on its own as soon as you've drawn the first line. Looks like a bug at work. It's also fairly important to be sure you set the View to show the Entire Page for drawing the lines, in my opinion. Then when you're done formatting set the page width to whatever you like it to be. You can also set the lines lower on the page (or higher) and when you drop into (or out of) the triangular area text just goes to the normal widths since it isn't within the areas between the lines. Good going! And thanks again! PopS "Luc" wrote in message ... : Hello HT, : If I read your reply correctly my method does not seem to work for you then. : I'll try to explain it again. : First step: : Draw two separate lines using the line tool of the drawing toolbar, be sure : to draw them so that they do not come together in the same point, leave some : space between them at the bottom of the page. : Second step: : Select the left line by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose Format : AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight icon, : click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second tab : (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue there : are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the right" (third radio : button from the left), hit OK two times. : Third step: : Select the line on the right by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose : Format AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight : icon, click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second : tab (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue : there are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the left" (second : radio button from the left), hit OK two times. : Fourth step: : Your paragraph marker should now be to the right of the left line, click : there and start to type, type as much text as you want, it will cascade as : expected. Upon reaching the bottom of the page the page being full, and only : then, there will be an automatic new page which of course will not cascade. : Fifth step: : Select the two lines (click and shift+click) choose Format - AutoShape, : colors and lines tab, in the line section choose white as the line colour. : That's all. : Hope this time all is clear, remember I am translating. : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi, its me again..thanks for the input guys.. : I now understand Luc's instructions (sorry I was too embarrassed to ask : but : thanks to Pop's speaking up he answered my questions)..it worked great for : the first 4 sentences but then the text ran underneath the lines. : I tried "Tight", "Both Sides" and received the same effect. : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : PopS, : Hi again, using Word 2003 here. : Tested again here, the text does not jump around, when the page is full a : new page is started without the lines of course. But I am guessing you : only : want the first page to cascade. : I must say that I am not using any kind of centering. When the two lines : are : set one allowing textflow to the right (the left line) and one allowing : textflow to the left (the right line) all you have to do is type in your : text and edit to hearts content. : The moment you have chosen Tight (thanks again Doug) you click on : advanced, : select the second tab of the dialogue, near the bottom there should be : four : ways to wrap text it's the middle two you need. : Luc : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : No need for apologies - I'm quite happy with just discovering a : way to do this with some automation. My way, with manual line : breaks, is a real pain if I have to go back and fix an error, : especially if it's adding or deleting an entire word. : : What version of Word are you working in? : : I'm interested in this enough to spend some time getting my head : around how it works & why, but just can't seem to find the time : (working weekend here), but I should be free by next week. : If I can't either get it to work your way or any way for that : matter g, and keep the text from jumping off onto the next : page, I'll be back and maybe we can try some empiracal tests back : and forth to help me figure it out? : : TIA, : : PopS : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : PopS, : : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since : I use the : : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the : left in the : : mentioned tab. : : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing : jumps around : : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a : rock. : : Luc : : : : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Hi Luc, : : : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: : Too : : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump : everything : : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the : triangle : : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : : everything else with it. : : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy : to : : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds : of : : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and : I'm : : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : : : Good tip! : : : : Pops : : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : : ... : : : HT, : : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. : First : : from top : : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle : bottom. : : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format : AutoShape, : : choose third : : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : : advanced, choose : : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do : the : : same with the : : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : : left of the : : : line. : : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors : and : : lines tab and : : : change the color to white. : : : Luc : : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : : ... : : : Word2003 : : : WindowsXP : : : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : : xxxxxxxx : : : xxxxxx : : : xxx : : : x : : : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page : of : : an Offering : : : Statement. : : : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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If you don't want to use the drawing canvas, then disable it on the General
tab of Tools | Options. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "PopS" wrote in message ... OK Luc, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! It does indeed work in Word 2002 and probably earlier versions, too! Thanks to your specific and excellent leadership. I've got it working, reliably, and perfectly. I -think- it didn't work for me the first time because I was getting an erroneous dialog box when I chose the Format Autoshape, which I'll attribute to memory failure since it never appeared today (I decided to do a Restart just to be sure everything was pristine as possible). The Advance tab you don't know the name of is called "Text Wrapping". Interestingly enough, I've apparently never looked at the four choices in thge lower part of that dialog box because that's the secret to getting it to work right. Interestingly enough, it's possible to get it half-assed working with the original instructions I mentioned for 2002, but it will never be any more than half-assed that way! So, I'm suspecting that any version of Word that has the tab names and functions you called out can do this. Personally the only part I see missing in your writeup is to ignore the "Draw your Graphic Here" box that pops up in 2002 and draw the lines where you want them on the page, which is outside of the suggested box. If you don't get that box in 2003 it's probably been fixed because it doesn't restrict you to the suggested box in any way at all. In fact, trying to draw the lines IN that box will get you the wrong dialog box when you go to Format Autoshape. You have to ignore it, and it goes away on its own as soon as you've drawn the first line. Looks like a bug at work. It's also fairly important to be sure you set the View to show the Entire Page for drawing the lines, in my opinion. Then when you're done formatting set the page width to whatever you like it to be. You can also set the lines lower on the page (or higher) and when you drop into (or out of) the triangular area text just goes to the normal widths since it isn't within the areas between the lines. Good going! And thanks again! PopS "Luc" wrote in message ... : Hello HT, : If I read your reply correctly my method does not seem to work for you then. : I'll try to explain it again. : First step: : Draw two separate lines using the line tool of the drawing toolbar, be sure : to draw them so that they do not come together in the same point, leave some : space between them at the bottom of the page. : Second step: : Select the left line by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose Format : AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight icon, : click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second tab : (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue there : are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the right" (third radio : button from the left), hit OK two times. : Third step: : Select the line on the right by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose : Format AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight : icon, click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second : tab (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue : there are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the left" (second : radio button from the left), hit OK two times. : Fourth step: : Your paragraph marker should now be to the right of the left line, click : there and start to type, type as much text as you want, it will cascade as : expected. Upon reaching the bottom of the page the page being full, and only : then, there will be an automatic new page which of course will not cascade. : Fifth step: : Select the two lines (click and shift+click) choose Format - AutoShape, : colors and lines tab, in the line section choose white as the line colour. : That's all. : Hope this time all is clear, remember I am translating. : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi, its me again..thanks for the input guys.. : I now understand Luc's instructions (sorry I was too embarrassed to ask : but : thanks to Pop's speaking up he answered my questions)..it worked great for : the first 4 sentences but then the text ran underneath the lines. : I tried "Tight", "Both Sides" and received the same effect. : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : PopS, : Hi again, using Word 2003 here. : Tested again here, the text does not jump around, when the page is full a : new page is started without the lines of course. But I am guessing you : only : want the first page to cascade. : I must say that I am not using any kind of centering. When the two lines : are : set one allowing textflow to the right (the left line) and one allowing : textflow to the left (the right line) all you have to do is type in your : text and edit to hearts content. : The moment you have chosen Tight (thanks again Doug) you click on : advanced, : select the second tab of the dialogue, near the bottom there should be : four : ways to wrap text it's the middle two you need. : Luc : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : No need for apologies - I'm quite happy with just discovering a : way to do this with some automation. My way, with manual line : breaks, is a real pain if I have to go back and fix an error, : especially if it's adding or deleting an entire word. : : What version of Word are you working in? : : I'm interested in this enough to spend some time getting my head : around how it works & why, but just can't seem to find the time : (working weekend here), but I should be free by next week. : If I can't either get it to work your way or any way for that : matter g, and keep the text from jumping off onto the next : page, I'll be back and maybe we can try some empiracal tests back : and forth to help me figure it out? : : TIA, : : PopS : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : PopS, : : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since : I use the : : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the : left in the : : mentioned tab. : : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing : jumps around : : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a : rock. : : Luc : : : : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Hi Luc, : : : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: : Too : : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump : everything : : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the : triangle : : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : : everything else with it. : : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy : to : : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds : of : : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and : I'm : : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : : : Good tip! : : : : Pops : : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : : ... : : : HT, : : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. : First : : from top : : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle : bottom. : : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format : AutoShape, : : choose third : : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : : advanced, choose : : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do : the : : same with the : : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : : left of the : : : line. : : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors : and : : lines tab and : : : change the color to white. : : : Luc : : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : : ... : : : Word2003 : : : WindowsXP : : : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : : xxxxxxxx : : : xxxxxx : : : xxx : : : x : : : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page : of : : an Offering : : : Statement. : : : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Glad it's working now, as Suzanne has already mentioned you can disable the drawing canvas. I disabled it a long time ago so I forgot to mention that in my procedure. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... OK Luc, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! It does indeed work in Word 2002 and probably earlier versions, too! Thanks to your specific and excellent leadership. I've got it working, reliably, and perfectly. I -think- it didn't work for me the first time because I was getting an erroneous dialog box when I chose the Format Autoshape, which I'll attribute to memory failure since it never appeared today (I decided to do a Restart just to be sure everything was pristine as possible). The Advance tab you don't know the name of is called "Text Wrapping". Interestingly enough, I've apparently never looked at the four choices in thge lower part of that dialog box because that's the secret to getting it to work right. Interestingly enough, it's possible to get it half-assed working with the original instructions I mentioned for 2002, but it will never be any more than half-assed that way! So, I'm suspecting that any version of Word that has the tab names and functions you called out can do this. Personally the only part I see missing in your writeup is to ignore the "Draw your Graphic Here" box that pops up in 2002 and draw the lines where you want them on the page, which is outside of the suggested box. If you don't get that box in 2003 it's probably been fixed because it doesn't restrict you to the suggested box in any way at all. In fact, trying to draw the lines IN that box will get you the wrong dialog box when you go to Format Autoshape. You have to ignore it, and it goes away on its own as soon as you've drawn the first line. Looks like a bug at work. It's also fairly important to be sure you set the View to show the Entire Page for drawing the lines, in my opinion. Then when you're done formatting set the page width to whatever you like it to be. You can also set the lines lower on the page (or higher) and when you drop into (or out of) the triangular area text just goes to the normal widths since it isn't within the areas between the lines. Good going! And thanks again! PopS "Luc" wrote in message ... : Hello HT, : If I read your reply correctly my method does not seem to work for you then. : I'll try to explain it again. : First step: : Draw two separate lines using the line tool of the drawing toolbar, be sure : to draw them so that they do not come together in the same point, leave some : space between them at the bottom of the page. : Second step: : Select the left line by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose Format : AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight icon, : click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second tab : (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue there : are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the right" (third radio : button from the left), hit OK two times. : Third step: : Select the line on the right by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose : Format AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight : icon, click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second : tab (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue : there are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the left" (second : radio button from the left), hit OK two times. : Fourth step: : Your paragraph marker should now be to the right of the left line, click : there and start to type, type as much text as you want, it will cascade as : expected. Upon reaching the bottom of the page the page being full, and only : then, there will be an automatic new page which of course will not cascade. : Fifth step: : Select the two lines (click and shift+click) choose Format - AutoShape, : colors and lines tab, in the line section choose white as the line colour. : That's all. : Hope this time all is clear, remember I am translating. : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi, its me again..thanks for the input guys.. : I now understand Luc's instructions (sorry I was too embarrassed to ask : but : thanks to Pop's speaking up he answered my questions)..it worked great for : the first 4 sentences but then the text ran underneath the lines. : I tried "Tight", "Both Sides" and received the same effect. : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : PopS, : Hi again, using Word 2003 here. : Tested again here, the text does not jump around, when the page is full a : new page is started without the lines of course. But I am guessing you : only : want the first page to cascade. : I must say that I am not using any kind of centering. When the two lines : are : set one allowing textflow to the right (the left line) and one allowing : textflow to the left (the right line) all you have to do is type in your : text and edit to hearts content. : The moment you have chosen Tight (thanks again Doug) you click on : advanced, : select the second tab of the dialogue, near the bottom there should be : four : ways to wrap text it's the middle two you need. : Luc : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : No need for apologies - I'm quite happy with just discovering a : way to do this with some automation. My way, with manual line : breaks, is a real pain if I have to go back and fix an error, : especially if it's adding or deleting an entire word. : : What version of Word are you working in? : : I'm interested in this enough to spend some time getting my head : around how it works & why, but just can't seem to find the time : (working weekend here), but I should be free by next week. : If I can't either get it to work your way or any way for that : matter g, and keep the text from jumping off onto the next : page, I'll be back and maybe we can try some empiracal tests back : and forth to help me figure it out? : : TIA, : : PopS : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : PopS, : : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since : I use the : : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the : left in the : : mentioned tab. : : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing : jumps around : : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a : rock. : : Luc : : : : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Hi Luc, : : : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: : Too : : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump : everything : : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the : triangle : : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : : everything else with it. : : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy : to : : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds : of : : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and : I'm : : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : : : Good tip! : : : : Pops : : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : : ... : : : HT, : : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. : First : : from top : : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle : bottom. : : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format : AutoShape, : : choose third : : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : : advanced, choose : : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do : the : : same with the : : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : : left of the : : : line. : : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors : and : : lines tab and : : : change the color to white. : : : Luc : : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : : ... : : : Word2003 : : : WindowsXP : : : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : : xxxxxxxx : : : xxxxxx : : : xxx : : : x : : : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page : of : : an Offering : : : Statement. : : : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Aha..got it! Apparently I was not leaving enough room on the bottom and
didn't understand the right/left scenario. Luc..thanks for all of your help! "Luc" wrote in message ... PopS, Glad it's working now, as Suzanne has already mentioned you can disable the drawing canvas. I disabled it a long time ago so I forgot to mention that in my procedure. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... OK Luc, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! It does indeed work in Word 2002 and probably earlier versions, too! Thanks to your specific and excellent leadership. I've got it working, reliably, and perfectly. I -think- it didn't work for me the first time because I was getting an erroneous dialog box when I chose the Format Autoshape, which I'll attribute to memory failure since it never appeared today (I decided to do a Restart just to be sure everything was pristine as possible). The Advance tab you don't know the name of is called "Text Wrapping". Interestingly enough, I've apparently never looked at the four choices in thge lower part of that dialog box because that's the secret to getting it to work right. Interestingly enough, it's possible to get it half-assed working with the original instructions I mentioned for 2002, but it will never be any more than half-assed that way! So, I'm suspecting that any version of Word that has the tab names and functions you called out can do this. Personally the only part I see missing in your writeup is to ignore the "Draw your Graphic Here" box that pops up in 2002 and draw the lines where you want them on the page, which is outside of the suggested box. If you don't get that box in 2003 it's probably been fixed because it doesn't restrict you to the suggested box in any way at all. In fact, trying to draw the lines IN that box will get you the wrong dialog box when you go to Format Autoshape. You have to ignore it, and it goes away on its own as soon as you've drawn the first line. Looks like a bug at work. It's also fairly important to be sure you set the View to show the Entire Page for drawing the lines, in my opinion. Then when you're done formatting set the page width to whatever you like it to be. You can also set the lines lower on the page (or higher) and when you drop into (or out of) the triangular area text just goes to the normal widths since it isn't within the areas between the lines. Good going! And thanks again! PopS "Luc" wrote in message ... : Hello HT, : If I read your reply correctly my method does not seem to work for you then. : I'll try to explain it again. : First step: : Draw two separate lines using the line tool of the drawing toolbar, be sure : to draw them so that they do not come together in the same point, leave some : space between them at the bottom of the page. : Second step: : Select the left line by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose Format : AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight icon, : click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second tab : (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue there : are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the right" (third radio : button from the left), hit OK two times. : Third step: : Select the line on the right by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose : Format AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight : icon, click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second : tab (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue : there are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the left" (second : radio button from the left), hit OK two times. : Fourth step: : Your paragraph marker should now be to the right of the left line, click : there and start to type, type as much text as you want, it will cascade as : expected. Upon reaching the bottom of the page the page being full, and only : then, there will be an automatic new page which of course will not cascade. : Fifth step: : Select the two lines (click and shift+click) choose Format - AutoShape, : colors and lines tab, in the line section choose white as the line colour. : That's all. : Hope this time all is clear, remember I am translating. : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi, its me again..thanks for the input guys.. : I now understand Luc's instructions (sorry I was too embarrassed to ask : but : thanks to Pop's speaking up he answered my questions)..it worked great for : the first 4 sentences but then the text ran underneath the lines. : I tried "Tight", "Both Sides" and received the same effect. : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : PopS, : Hi again, using Word 2003 here. : Tested again here, the text does not jump around, when the page is full a : new page is started without the lines of course. But I am guessing you : only : want the first page to cascade. : I must say that I am not using any kind of centering. When the two lines : are : set one allowing textflow to the right (the left line) and one allowing : textflow to the left (the right line) all you have to do is type in your : text and edit to hearts content. : The moment you have chosen Tight (thanks again Doug) you click on : advanced, : select the second tab of the dialogue, near the bottom there should be : four : ways to wrap text it's the middle two you need. : Luc : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : No need for apologies - I'm quite happy with just discovering a : way to do this with some automation. My way, with manual line : breaks, is a real pain if I have to go back and fix an error, : especially if it's adding or deleting an entire word. : : What version of Word are you working in? : : I'm interested in this enough to spend some time getting my head : around how it works & why, but just can't seem to find the time : (working weekend here), but I should be free by next week. : If I can't either get it to work your way or any way for that : matter g, and keep the text from jumping off onto the next : page, I'll be back and maybe we can try some empiracal tests back : and forth to help me figure it out? : : TIA, : : PopS : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : PopS, : : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since : I use the : : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the : left in the : : mentioned tab. : : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing : jumps around : : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a : rock. : : Luc : : : : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Hi Luc, : : : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: : Too : : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump : everything : : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the : triangle : : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : : everything else with it. : : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy : to : : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds : of : : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and : I'm : : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : : : Good tip! : : : : Pops : : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : : ... : : : HT, : : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. : First : : from top : : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle : bottom. : : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format : AutoShape, : : choose third : : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : : advanced, choose : : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do : the : : same with the : : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : : left of the : : : line. : : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors : and : : lines tab and : : : change the color to white. : : : Luc : : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : : ... : : : Word2003 : : : WindowsXP : : : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : : xxxxxxxx : : : xxxxxx : : : xxx : : : x : : : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page : of : : an Offering : : : Statement. : : : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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That's what we are here for. Good luck Luc "HT" schreef in bericht ... Aha..got it! Apparently I was not leaving enough room on the bottom and didn't understand the right/left scenario. Luc..thanks for all of your help! "Luc" wrote in message ... PopS, Glad it's working now, as Suzanne has already mentioned you can disable the drawing canvas. I disabled it a long time ago so I forgot to mention that in my procedure. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... OK Luc, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! It does indeed work in Word 2002 and probably earlier versions, too! Thanks to your specific and excellent leadership. I've got it working, reliably, and perfectly. I -think- it didn't work for me the first time because I was getting an erroneous dialog box when I chose the Format Autoshape, which I'll attribute to memory failure since it never appeared today (I decided to do a Restart just to be sure everything was pristine as possible). The Advance tab you don't know the name of is called "Text Wrapping". Interestingly enough, I've apparently never looked at the four choices in thge lower part of that dialog box because that's the secret to getting it to work right. Interestingly enough, it's possible to get it half-assed working with the original instructions I mentioned for 2002, but it will never be any more than half-assed that way! So, I'm suspecting that any version of Word that has the tab names and functions you called out can do this. Personally the only part I see missing in your writeup is to ignore the "Draw your Graphic Here" box that pops up in 2002 and draw the lines where you want them on the page, which is outside of the suggested box. If you don't get that box in 2003 it's probably been fixed because it doesn't restrict you to the suggested box in any way at all. In fact, trying to draw the lines IN that box will get you the wrong dialog box when you go to Format Autoshape. You have to ignore it, and it goes away on its own as soon as you've drawn the first line. Looks like a bug at work. It's also fairly important to be sure you set the View to show the Entire Page for drawing the lines, in my opinion. Then when you're done formatting set the page width to whatever you like it to be. You can also set the lines lower on the page (or higher) and when you drop into (or out of) the triangular area text just goes to the normal widths since it isn't within the areas between the lines. Good going! And thanks again! PopS "Luc" wrote in message ... : Hello HT, : If I read your reply correctly my method does not seem to work for you then. : I'll try to explain it again. : First step: : Draw two separate lines using the line tool of the drawing toolbar, be sure : to draw them so that they do not come together in the same point, leave some : space between them at the bottom of the page. : Second step: : Select the left line by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose Format : AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight icon, : click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second tab : (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue there : are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the right" (third radio : button from the left), hit OK two times. : Third step: : Select the line on the right by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose : Format AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight : icon, click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second : tab (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue : there are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the left" (second : radio button from the left), hit OK two times. : Fourth step: : Your paragraph marker should now be to the right of the left line, click : there and start to type, type as much text as you want, it will cascade as : expected. Upon reaching the bottom of the page the page being full, and only : then, there will be an automatic new page which of course will not cascade. : Fifth step: : Select the two lines (click and shift+click) choose Format - AutoShape, : colors and lines tab, in the line section choose white as the line colour. : That's all. : Hope this time all is clear, remember I am translating. : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi, its me again..thanks for the input guys.. : I now understand Luc's instructions (sorry I was too embarrassed to ask : but : thanks to Pop's speaking up he answered my questions)..it worked great for : the first 4 sentences but then the text ran underneath the lines. : I tried "Tight", "Both Sides" and received the same effect. : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : PopS, : Hi again, using Word 2003 here. : Tested again here, the text does not jump around, when the page is full a : new page is started without the lines of course. But I am guessing you : only : want the first page to cascade. : I must say that I am not using any kind of centering. When the two lines : are : set one allowing textflow to the right (the left line) and one allowing : textflow to the left (the right line) all you have to do is type in your : text and edit to hearts content. : The moment you have chosen Tight (thanks again Doug) you click on : advanced, : select the second tab of the dialogue, near the bottom there should be : four : ways to wrap text it's the middle two you need. : Luc : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : No need for apologies - I'm quite happy with just discovering a : way to do this with some automation. My way, with manual line : breaks, is a real pain if I have to go back and fix an error, : especially if it's adding or deleting an entire word. : : What version of Word are you working in? : : I'm interested in this enough to spend some time getting my head : around how it works & why, but just can't seem to find the time : (working weekend here), but I should be free by next week. : If I can't either get it to work your way or any way for that : matter g, and keep the text from jumping off onto the next : page, I'll be back and maybe we can try some empiracal tests back : and forth to help me figure it out? : : TIA, : : PopS : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : PopS, : : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since : I use the : : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the : left in the : : mentioned tab. : : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing : jumps around : : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a : rock. : : Luc : : : : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Hi Luc, : : : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: : Too : : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump : everything : : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the : triangle : : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : : everything else with it. : : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy : to : : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds : of : : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and : I'm : : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : : : Good tip! : : : : Pops : : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : : ... : : : HT, : : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. : First : : from top : : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle : bottom. : : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format : AutoShape, : : choose third : : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : : advanced, choose : : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do : the : : same with the : : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : : left of the : : : line. : : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors : and : : lines tab and : : : change the color to white. : : : Luc : : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : : ... : : : Word2003 : : : WindowsXP : : : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : : xxxxxxxx : : : xxxxxx : : : xxx : : : x : : : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page : of : : an Offering : : : Statement. : : : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Aha! Of course; thanks!
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... : If you don't want to use the drawing canvas, then disable it on the General : tab of Tools | Options. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "PopS" wrote in message : ... : OK Luc, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! It does indeed work in Word 2002 : and probably earlier versions, too! Thanks to your specific and : excellent leadership. : I've got it working, reliably, and perfectly. I -think- it : didn't work for me the first time because I was getting an : erroneous dialog box when I chose the Format Autoshape, which : I'll attribute to memory failure since it never appeared today (I : decided to do a Restart just to be sure everything was pristine : as possible). : : The Advance tab you don't know the name of is called "Text : Wrapping". Interestingly enough, I've apparently never looked at : the four choices in thge lower part of that dialog box because : that's the secret to getting it to work right. : : Interestingly enough, it's possible to get it half-assed working : with the original instructions I mentioned for 2002, but it will : never be any more than half-assed that way! : : So, I'm suspecting that any version of Word that has the tab : names and functions you called out can do this. : Personally the only part I see missing in your writeup is to : ignore the "Draw your Graphic Here" box that pops up in 2002 and : draw the lines where you want them on the page, which is outside : of the suggested box. If you don't get that box in 2003 it's : probably been fixed because it doesn't restrict you to the : suggested box in any way at all. In fact, trying to draw the : lines IN that box will get you the wrong dialog box when you go : to Format Autoshape. You have to ignore it, and it goes away on : its own as soon as you've drawn the first line. Looks like a bug : at work. : It's also fairly important to be sure you set the View to show : the Entire Page for drawing the lines, in my opinion. Then when : you're done formatting set the page width to whatever you like it : to be. : You can also set the lines lower on the page (or higher) and : when you drop into (or out of) the triangular area text just goes : to the normal widths since it isn't within the areas between the : lines. : : Good going! And thanks again! : : PopS : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : Hello HT, : : If I read your reply correctly my method does not seem to work : for you then. : : I'll try to explain it again. : : First step: : : Draw two separate lines using the line tool of the drawing : toolbar, be sure : : to draw them so that they do not come together in the same : point, leave some : : space between them at the bottom of the page. : : Second step: : : Select the left line by clicking on it, rightclick it and : choose Format : : AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the : Tight icon, : : click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the : second tab : : (don't know the English term), in the third section of the : dialogue there : : are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the right" : (third radio : : button from the left), hit OK two times. : : Third step: : : Select the line on the right by clicking on it, rightclick it : and choose : : Format AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), : choose the Tight : : icon, click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click : on the second : : tab (don't know the English term), in the third section of the : dialogue : : there are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the : left" (second : : radio button from the left), hit OK two times. : : Fourth step: : : Your paragraph marker should now be to the right of the left : line, click : : there and start to type, type as much text as you want, it will : cascade as : : expected. Upon reaching the bottom of the page the page being : full, and only : : then, there will be an automatic new page which of course will : not cascade. : : Fifth step: : : Select the two lines (click and shift+click) choose Format - : AutoShape, : : colors and lines tab, in the line section choose white as the : line colour. : : That's all. : : Hope this time all is clear, remember I am translating. : : Luc : : : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Hi, its me again..thanks for the input guys.. : : I now understand Luc's instructions (sorry I was too : embarrassed to ask : : but : : thanks to Pop's speaking up he answered my questions)..it : worked great for : : the first 4 sentences but then the text ran underneath the : lines. : : I tried "Tight", "Both Sides" and received the same effect. : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : : ... : : PopS, : : Hi again, using Word 2003 here. : : Tested again here, the text does not jump around, when the : page is full a : : new page is started without the lines of course. But I am : guessing you : : only : : want the first page to cascade. : : I must say that I am not using any kind of centering. When : the two lines : : are : : set one allowing textflow to the right (the left line) and : one allowing : : textflow to the left (the right line) all you have to do is : type in your : : text and edit to hearts content. : : The moment you have chosen Tight (thanks again Doug) you : click on : : advanced, : : select the second tab of the dialogue, near the bottom there : should be : : four : : ways to wrap text it's the middle two you need. : : Luc : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Hi Luc, : : : : No need for apologies - I'm quite happy with just : discovering a : : way to do this with some automation. My way, with manual : line : : breaks, is a real pain if I have to go back and fix an : error, : : especially if it's adding or deleting an entire word. : : : : What version of Word are you working in? : : : : I'm interested in this enough to spend some time getting : my head : : around how it works & why, but just can't seem to find the : time : : (working weekend here), but I should be free by next week. : : If I can't either get it to work your way or any way for : that : : matter g, and keep the text from jumping off onto the : next : : page, I'll be back and maybe we can try some empiracal : tests back : : and forth to help me figure it out? : : : : TIA, : : : : PopS : : : : : : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : : ... : : : PopS, : : : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can : since : : I use the : : : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from : the : : left in the : : : mentioned tab. : : : I tested again here, using the method I described, and : nothing : : jumps around : : : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid : as a : : rock. : : : Luc : : : : : : : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : : : ... : : : Hi Luc, : : : : : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have : 2002 and : : : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape : menues, : : : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : : : : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left : line and : : : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or : two: : : Too : : : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump : : everything : : : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on : you. : : : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by : the : : triangle : : : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems : to take : : : everything else with it. : : : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably : easy : : to : : : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in : the winds : : of : : : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - : and : : I'm : : : glad to discover something I never thought about : before. : : : : : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that : way and : : : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : : : : : Good tip! : : : : : : Pops : : : : : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : : : ... : : : : HT, : : : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing : toolbar. : : First : : : from top : : : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to : middle : : bottom. : : : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format : : AutoShape, : : : choose third : : : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now : click on : : : advanced, choose : : : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. : Now do : : the : : : same with the : : : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only : to the : : : left of the : : : : line. : : : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose : colors : : and : : : lines tab and : : : : change the color to white. : : : : Luc : : : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : : : ... : : : : Word2003 : : : : WindowsXP : : : : : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : : : xxxxxxxx : : : : xxxxxx : : : : xxx : : : : x : : : : : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the : 1st page : : of : : : an Offering : : : : Statement. : : : : : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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I am so greatful for these newsgroups..!
"Luc" wrote in message ... HT, That's what we are here for. Good luck Luc "HT" schreef in bericht ... Aha..got it! Apparently I was not leaving enough room on the bottom and didn't understand the right/left scenario. Luc..thanks for all of your help! "Luc" wrote in message ... PopS, Glad it's working now, as Suzanne has already mentioned you can disable the drawing canvas. I disabled it a long time ago so I forgot to mention that in my procedure. Luc "PopS" schreef in bericht ... OK Luc, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! It does indeed work in Word 2002 and probably earlier versions, too! Thanks to your specific and excellent leadership. I've got it working, reliably, and perfectly. I -think- it didn't work for me the first time because I was getting an erroneous dialog box when I chose the Format Autoshape, which I'll attribute to memory failure since it never appeared today (I decided to do a Restart just to be sure everything was pristine as possible). The Advance tab you don't know the name of is called "Text Wrapping". Interestingly enough, I've apparently never looked at the four choices in thge lower part of that dialog box because that's the secret to getting it to work right. Interestingly enough, it's possible to get it half-assed working with the original instructions I mentioned for 2002, but it will never be any more than half-assed that way! So, I'm suspecting that any version of Word that has the tab names and functions you called out can do this. Personally the only part I see missing in your writeup is to ignore the "Draw your Graphic Here" box that pops up in 2002 and draw the lines where you want them on the page, which is outside of the suggested box. If you don't get that box in 2003 it's probably been fixed because it doesn't restrict you to the suggested box in any way at all. In fact, trying to draw the lines IN that box will get you the wrong dialog box when you go to Format Autoshape. You have to ignore it, and it goes away on its own as soon as you've drawn the first line. Looks like a bug at work. It's also fairly important to be sure you set the View to show the Entire Page for drawing the lines, in my opinion. Then when you're done formatting set the page width to whatever you like it to be. You can also set the lines lower on the page (or higher) and when you drop into (or out of) the triangular area text just goes to the normal widths since it isn't within the areas between the lines. Good going! And thanks again! PopS "Luc" wrote in message ... : Hello HT, : If I read your reply correctly my method does not seem to work for you then. : I'll try to explain it again. : First step: : Draw two separate lines using the line tool of the drawing toolbar, be sure : to draw them so that they do not come together in the same point, leave some : space between them at the bottom of the page. : Second step: : Select the left line by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose Format : AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight icon, : click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second tab : (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue there : are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the right" (third radio : button from the left), hit OK two times. : Third step: : Select the line on the right by clicking on it, rightclick it and choose : Format AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the Tight : icon, click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the second : tab (don't know the English term), in the third section of the dialogue : there are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the left" (second : radio button from the left), hit OK two times. : Fourth step: : Your paragraph marker should now be to the right of the left line, click : there and start to type, type as much text as you want, it will cascade as : expected. Upon reaching the bottom of the page the page being full, and only : then, there will be an automatic new page which of course will not cascade. : Fifth step: : Select the two lines (click and shift+click) choose Format - AutoShape, : colors and lines tab, in the line section choose white as the line colour. : That's all. : Hope this time all is clear, remember I am translating. : Luc : : "HT" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi, its me again..thanks for the input guys.. : I now understand Luc's instructions (sorry I was too embarrassed to ask : but : thanks to Pop's speaking up he answered my questions)..it worked great for : the first 4 sentences but then the text ran underneath the lines. : I tried "Tight", "Both Sides" and received the same effect. : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : PopS, : Hi again, using Word 2003 here. : Tested again here, the text does not jump around, when the page is full a : new page is started without the lines of course. But I am guessing you : only : want the first page to cascade. : I must say that I am not using any kind of centering. When the two lines : are : set one allowing textflow to the right (the left line) and one allowing : textflow to the left (the right line) all you have to do is type in your : text and edit to hearts content. : The moment you have chosen Tight (thanks again Doug) you click on : advanced, : select the second tab of the dialogue, near the bottom there should be : four : ways to wrap text it's the middle two you need. : Luc : "PopS" schreef in bericht : ... : Hi Luc, : : No need for apologies - I'm quite happy with just discovering a : way to do this with some automation. My way, with manual line : breaks, is a real pain if I have to go back and fix an error, : especially if it's adding or deleting an entire word. : : What version of Word are you working in? : : I'm interested in this enough to spend some time getting my head : around how it works & why, but just can't seem to find the time : (working weekend here), but I should be free by next week. : If I can't either get it to work your way or any way for that : matter g, and keep the text from jumping off onto the next : page, I'll be back and maybe we can try some empiracal tests back : and forth to help me figure it out? : : TIA, : : PopS : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : ... : : PopS, : : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can since : I use the : : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from the : left in the : : mentioned tab. : : I tested again here, using the method I described, and nothing : jumps around : : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid as a : rock. : : Luc : : : : : : "PopS" schreef in bericht : : ... : : Hi Luc, : : : : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have 2002 and : : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape menues, : : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but: : : : : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left line and : : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or two: : Too : : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump : everything : : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on you. : : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by the : triangle : : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems to take : : everything else with it. : : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably easy : to : : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in the winds : of : : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it - and : I'm : : glad to discover something I never thought about before. : : : : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that way and : : just used Centering and the Enter key before this. : : : : Good tip! : : : : Pops : : : : : : "Luc" wrote in message : : ... : : : HT, : : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing toolbar. : First : : from top : : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to middle : bottom. : : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format : AutoShape, : : choose third : : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now click on : : advanced, choose : : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text. Now do : the : : same with the : : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only to the : : left of the : : : line. : : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose colors : and : : lines tab and : : : change the color to white. : : : Luc : : : "HT" schreef in bericht : : : ... : : : Word2003 : : : WindowsXP : : : : : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like. : : : : : : xxxxxxxxx : : : xxxxxxxx : : : xxxxxx : : : xxx : : : x : : : : : : I need to create this because it will be on the 1st page : of : : an Offering : : : Statement. : : : : : : Thank you. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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